Explain why sucker punch is a masterpiece.
>>66953793
its not
>>66953793
It's not, but Jaime Chung and oscar Isaac are pretty hot
>Directed by Zack Snyder
>>66953793
Never work out for a movie format.
If this shit was an anime instead /a/ would praise it like the second coming of eva
Imagine the circle jerk of waifu fagging and 2deep4you
>>66953793
Why do you consider it a masterpiece? I remember watching this movie when I was like 14 and thinking it was just another flick, however I do admit that the cinematography was pretty good.
it's not but it's very close.
one of the most brutal hate-filled satires ive ever seen, loaded with symbolism and references and done in a way CLEARLY intended to be off-putting to every audience except the ones its targeting (quite literally) and the true patricians who can see the point. the film (and it is a film masquerading as a flick) has so many carrot/stick combinations on so many levels that it's almost awe-inspiring how such a thing could even be possible.
so far ahead of its time it's not even funny, more scary. EASILY snyders best work.
>>66953793
it doesnt even have prime emily browning. that would be series of unfortunate events
>>66953793
Zak Snyder doesn't post here, sorry.
>inb4 implying he's the only one delusional enough to think it's a masterpiece
Yes, that is the implication. Gold star.
Jena Malone was the ugliest Sucker Punch girl
>>66954194
>so far ahead of its time
>2deep4u
kill yourself nigger
>>66954160
>14 When watching.
>Released March 25, 2011
Shit.
>>66955418
He's right, though. It's 3deep5u. Layers upon layers upon layers upon layers. Understanding it is like a litmus test for intelligence levels.
I tried watching it 3 times and 3 times I feel asleep
because emily browning mastered my piece.
>>66955490
understanding what?
i saw this shit years ago but for what i can recall was an animuh live shitfest pandering to weeabos and horny boys.
>the director was trying to portrait how the sociaty tries to bla bla bla
>it was a satire HAHA, get it?
No, this crap is the "i was pretending to be retarded" concept in a movie.
A movie pandering to horny teenagers, cut the 2deep4u shit.
>>66955547
>that video of her ordering room service naked
literally and figuratively perfect woman
>>66955490
>Understanding it is like a litmus test for intelligence levels
more like a litmus test for pretentiousness.
intellectual films are the poor man's art.
>>66953793
Every action scene is metculously crafted. Objectively the best action movie since the matrix.
>>66955581
Liking it and understanding it are not mutually inclusive, but you don't have to worry about that for a few years yet.
>>66955635
See above.
>>66953793
>>66953793
I liked it very much and cannot understand why people hate it so much. Didn't anyone watch the fucking trailers? What the fuck were you expecting? Did you watch some screener version of the movie?
>>66955581
Like (You) there: didn't you see the giant samurai wielding a minigun in the trailer? Why did you still decide to watch it if something like that isn't your thing?
>>66953793
Because it isn't.
>>66955547
>ywn have a cutie 4'10 90lb gf who sings in a belle and sebastian cover band
why even live
>>66955655
Based Snyder
>>66953793
>Explain why sucker punch is a masterpiece.
It's a very successful adaptation of DeviantArt
>>66955653
>kid
Thanks for proving how retarded you are my fedora friend
>>>66955667
i loved the film until it got all pretentious instead of being just an action flick.
>didn't you see the giant samurai wielding a minigun in the trailer?
yes, then i found a movie trying to be smart and failing.
>>66953793
I saw it in the theaters back in the day and I liked it. I was surprised as to why it was universally hated. Maybe I should watch it again though.
>>66953793
its not and its the only zack snyder film i dont like
including man of murder and owls
>>66955755
It wasn't trying to be smart. The story only exists to facilitate the action scenes.
>>66955483
should we ban him? He was probably underage when he discovered 4chan
>>66955778
well, it may be 2deep4u then for real.
>>66955755
Where did I say kid? Adults are often just as dumb as kids, sometimes moreso, given the time you've had to ingrain your misconceptions wrt objective vs subjective.
>>66955785
>>66955483
im 19 now you fags
>>66955785
Most people were underage when they discovered 4chan retard.
>>66955810
besides your constant babbling you can't tell why the movie is so deep4u, you fedora faggot.
>>66955840
I can tell it's 2deep4u by reading your posts.
>>66955884
nothing, got it.
>>66955839
well you're faggots then. I discovered 4chan when I was 35
>>66955653
>See above
whether you liked it or not, it's pretentious to think understanding it is a litmus test for intelligence.
and movies like these (that take just the slightest more attention than the average movie to get) use the ego of their watchers as a crutch for quality. you don't have to make a good movie if you can make dumb people feel smart. same reason inception was so popular.
>>66953793
needed moar tits
Some of the guns were pretty cool
>C96, that custom 1911, Maxim, Lewis Gun, Gasser revolver, etc.
Although she couldn't hold the Lewis without a cable holding up the muzzle
>>66953793
IT DIDN'T HAVE A STRIP TEASE SCENE
IT DIDN'T HAVE A RAPE SCENE
>it was all implied
Crap CGI start to painfull End
>>66955924
>same reason inception was so popular.
indeed
>>66955920
how does it feel knowing half of your life is over?
>>66956003
you can die tomorrow or in the next minute.
who gives a fuck.
>>66956003
>not living to at least 105
Pleb
Seeing people's reactions to this film is hilarious. So many people in denial of the idea that they just lacked the brainpower to comprehend something as simple as it doing everything they can to avoid the possibility that it isn't simply beneath them. When the film goes out of its way to make it as clear as it reasonably can in the introduction exactly what it is doing, yet people still miss this, something is simply not working.
>>66955581
>the director was trying to portrait how the sociaty tries to bla bla bla
>it was a satire HAHA, get it?
And this is a perfect example. I don't even know if you're capable of understanding that it's something that's neither a critique of male gaze, nor an ironic parody of girl power action flicks.
>>66956047
tell us what it is then, i am still waiting.
what was the movie trying to deliver, the message?
>>66955924
Sucker Punch legitimacy demands more intelligence than Inception does, for whatever that's worth.
>>66955907
Yes, you did indeed get nothing, because you are unable to.
>>66955924
I don't feel smart for getting it. I feel smarter than the literal idiots who didn't, and the plotfags who think surface-level narrative trumps the visceral audiovisual experience of cinema.
>>66956028
You will probably give a fuck when you're diagnosed with a terminal disease and linger on in pain for months or years. Most people go slow and painfully, healthy and American alike.
>>66956105
you didn't get the point.
death is around us every second, worrying about it achieves nothing.
>>66956102
so, you didn't get it?
or you are afraid of giving your interpretation of the movie so we can all fucking laugh at your expense?
>>66956105
As will you. See the intro to this track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9qZQ018B8
>>66956105
I'd just buy a fuckload of heroin and OD if that happened, why stick around and live in pain? Just take the exit senpai
>>66956152
I've given my interpretation several times before. Just as you have given your bait several times before.
>>66956155
What's with those fucking drums
I don't mind metal, but who the fuck listens to this shit
>>66956174
you didn't gave you interpretation.
you are just saying how deep the movie is and how you and the chosen ones are the only ones that understands the movie in all his glory.
what's suckerpunch about?
>>66956190
The main guy was a hardcore rave DJ back in the day. He wanted to make true hardcore industrial rave grindcore.
>>66956217
it sound like a one man band falling down the stairs
>>66956155
Nice to see some of the surviving Uruk-hai managed to rehabilitate themselves in the Fourth Age.
>>66956073
>the message?
That's exactly the point. You're going in expecting it to have some kind of message, as if it could simply be reduced to some kind of platitude that "tells you something about life" or something along that line of nonsense.
Sucker Punch is tragic cinema, though in the lesser form of a butchered action flick. It deliberately subverts anything that could otherwise be construed as a message, and that is part of the point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlRmTKuEAG4
You have to approach it as an operatic rock musical first and foremost, that's why the whole experience is so overwhelming. It's disappointing that Snyder's plans for this ended up being toned down so much, as I would have adored to see what he would have done were he given more freedom.
>>66956248
>>66956252
Read along with the lyrics to this. Edgelordius Maximus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2flebrPPes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2flebrPPes
>>66956215
I have given my interpretation in previous threads, just as you have made your assertions in previous threads. This guy >>66956268
is pretty close though.
>>66956086
you're missing the point. doesn't matter if you legitimately need to be smart to get it or not. It's about movies that jerk off their viewers so that they don't have to write a good movie.
primer is probably in the top 5 hardest to completely understand movies i've seen (although a big contributor to that was lack of cgi/resources). But behind the puzzle is a really shit movie.
>>66956102
>I don't feel smart for getting it
"litmus test for intelligence"
>I feel smarter than the literal idiots who didn't
if your movie is shit it doesn't deserve a chance to be "got". No one's gonna give a movie a second look if the first one put them to sleep.
>who think surface-level narrative trumps the visceral audiovisual experience of cinema.
pleb
>>66956268
You're trying too hard now. It's stopped being funny.
>>66956268
thanks man.
only a pretentious fuck could defend this piece of shit.
>that's why the whole experience is so overwhelming.
it wasn't, are you ok?
they teach this shit in the filmaker's schools or something?
you are like a guy defending vomit on a canvas
>it's so deep! pure art showing us how the modern world of art is just yaddayaddayadda
>it's just vomit pal
>2deep4u!
fuck off.
It has the best cover of "where is my mind" ever.
>>66956363
>It's about movies that jerk off their viewers so that they don't have to write a good movie.
Yeah, but that's exactly what kind of movie it is. It's a masterclass in trying to have your cake and eat it too, failing miserably in the process.
>>66956354
>This guy >>66956268 is pretty close though.
oh look, another pleb who tries to feel intelligent by parroting others. you follow pitchfork too?
>>66956354
>I have given my interpretation in previous threads, just as you have made your assertions in previous threads
first time here buddy.
good to know that you didn't understand a shit like this guy>>66956268
explain the movie or fuck off.
>>66956268
>You have to approach it as an operatic rock musical first and foremost
You really have no idea what you are talking about huh?
>>66956595
Well clearly, he thinks Sucker Punch was good
>>66956363
>>66956458
>>66956474
So not only are you a dumbass but you are also both new and a tourist bandwaggoner? Epic, epic for the win.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDqXXlPkRBo
>>66956393
the sweet dreams cover was even better
It's a slutty-cosplay-girl action movie with extra shit shoe-horned in to give dumb people the feeling there depth. Like the Matrix.
Notice how everyone defending it as being this great work get vague on why, and everyone's over written treatise on why is different?
It's not the first action porn movie to put a beret on and let it's fan call it adroit social commentary.
>>66953793
What the film taught me:
>Women can be strong and independent.
>But only in their minds.
>And only if they pretend to be strippers
>>66956621
>resorting to pure name calling when he gets called out on his shit
at least now it's sad-funny, not sad.
>>66956611
It's not that he thinks it's good, I can accept that no problem (each to their own). it's that he has no idea how to articulate himself because he doesn't understand why he likes it, so just throws everything at us hoping it makes some kind of intelligent point, instead of just accepting he liked it for juvenile reasons.
Saying "it's an operatic rock musical" as some sort of point about its quality is idiotic.
>>66956595
He read someone say that about Fury Road and liked the sound of it.
>>66956705
>wahh pls spoonfeed me the secrets of the universe
>>66955700
>Emily Browning will never make you cry while she gently jerks you off
>>66956754
Sweet dreams are in fact made of this
>>66953793
Female version of "one flew over the cuckoo' nest" that shows girls falling back on what was once thought as just boyish power fantasies of sword, gun and sorcery to block out their horrible abuse.
However, critics and pleb normie audiences had that message fly right over their head and just dismissed it as cheesecake despite the girls being rather well covered in their sexy super alter ego costumes.
>>66956729
see>>66956748
captcha; waterfalls
Just like your tears of piss when you don't understand the world around you.
>>66956748
You're not very good at b8ting, m8ting.
>>66953793
Much like Mysterymen, Sucker Punch was just too ahead of it's time.
>>66956754
>she will never let youLEWDall over her flatLEWDand make youLEWDit off.
>>66956780
What makes you think I'm baiting? Is it just because you assume everything you don't personally ''get'' is some kind of bait? Or is it because everything you yourself post is bait and you can't comprehend anyone else ever doing something different? Weak, empty low-ground scrub.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrLequ6dUdM
>>66955785
You suck at math.
>>66956777
>wahhhh it's deep and i get it but you don't but i do but i won't explain it because it's a super secret but i get it but you don't i'm special guys please believe me.
you're hillarious
>>66956771
What message? You just described what the plot. How is that a message?
Wait.. Do you think that was insightful? Like, the literal plot of the movie, the blurb that's on the back of the DVD jacket, is the deep core message of the movie buried away where only superior minds like yours can find it?
>yfw plebs don't realize Rosebud was the name of his sleigh
>>66953793
It was basically a Heavy Metal 2000 magazine movie.
>>66956856
>you're hilarious
Your not
This movie was garbage. It's like it tried to be "deep" with it's ambiguous plot, but the whole "it was all in their heads" bullshit pulled was a gigantic slap in the face with the shit covered hand that had been feeding me the whole movie.
0/10, stay away from this one, folks.
It's one of the worst movies from the last three decades.
>>66956880
Go watch One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, you cuck, or better yet read the book.
Baby Doll was Jack and the other chick who dreamed up the brothel/club backdrop was the Indian.
>>66956710
/thread
>>66953793
That poster would look a lot better with a black guy around those white girls.
>>66956958
It was 2deep4u, pleb, get over it:^)
>>66956962
>/thread
Fuck off.
>>66956958
I know you're baiting but please don't sully the name of actually good movies by comparing them to overproduced blockbuster trash.
I mean at least some things should be sacred right?
>>669570272deep4u
>>66957040
he's naming a good movie to watch instead of this piece of shit.
learn2read.
>>66957068
No he's not. He's saying you need to watch it to understand its parallels to sucker punch.
u lrn2read tbqh
>>66956731
>instead of just accepting he liked it for juvenile reasons
I don't though. I like it primarily for non-juvenile reasons, though I enjoy some of the more juvenile elements of the movie too.
>"it's an operatic rock musical" as some sort of point about its quality
Which I'm not doing. I'm pointing out that the film is intentionally structured like a rock opera, regardless of what you think of it quality-wise, and that's how it really should be seen. It originally was going to have far more musical scenes and fewer action sequences.
>>66956739
I've seen Fury Road and would never describe it like that. That really was mostly an action flick as far as I see it.
>>66956795
>Mysterymen
OK, sell me on this. I appreciated Sucker Punch and The Incredibles, so what does this have to offer me?
One hundred and five replies and not a single mention of Jacques Lacan? For the elucidation of those interested, the narrative of "Sucker Punch" operates on a Lacanian triad of "The Real", The Imaginary" and "The Symbolic". You can not begin to read "Sucker Punch" without that as your starting point.
>>66956710
This is so accurate it hurts my sides. I couldn't sum it up better.
>>66956754
What the fuck anon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYNOxLVj5Y
Anyone who can watch this scene and not immediately admit they were a pleb for not getting it doesn’t deserve to be here.
>>66957548
sucker punch is both a deconstruction and symbiosis of lacans concepts. that's part of what makes it great. that being said, if you're going to get the movie, lacans ideas are probably already intuitive to you so you aren't going to get much.
This thread: A single troll exploits the extreme intellectual insecurity of all of /tv/
>>66953793
>The movie is 90% dream sequence.
>Imaginary world within an imaginary world.
>No actual dancing because Snyder jewed out of making an R rated film.
>Anyone with a penis is worse is satan.
>Shitty colour filters.
>Poor CGI that gets boring quick.
its a 2 hour music video and all the cover versions of songs are far worse than their originals. the Roxy Music "Love is the Drug" is particularly horrific.
Zack Snyder is as deaf as a fucking post.
>all female cast
It's kino.
/thread
>mfw people say this movie is shit because it's 'sexist' and 'shallow'.
>mfw I very much enjoyed this movie BECAUSE it's pandering and i love me some girlband in short skirts doing badass shit.
why do people take movie so seriously?
>>66959586
It's okay if they're qt.
> 4channers
> dont understand a movie about escapism
wew lad
>>66953793
I love jacking off to this movie.
>>66955655
Based Snyder xD
Ok here's a fair review of the film:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gXir4Pu0f0
>>66959682
all of this should make it good but it ended up being boring to me
>>66958548
Wait.. Why wasn't it in the movie in the first place?
>>66953793
it was inception before inception.
>>66953793
It's a better all-female cast movie than Ghostbusters 2016.
