Holy shit
>>66592878
>>66592878
fuckin 3rd world niggers man
what a bunch of retarded faggots, i loved watching that guy try to rationalize it all though and getting flustered by anyone who would impose morals on him
>>66593245
Holy shit. That's what you took from this? Really?
Jesus christ.
>>66593508
hahaha what did you take from it mister educated
Who gives a fuck about commies getting killed?
>>66593573
>>66593617
I really hate /tv/. How they completely fail to understand any real subtext. How they take something profound that looks into the darkness of human nature and completely turn it around to fit some myopic narrative made to comfort themselves about their own place of superiority in the world.
This place is vile, holy fucking shit. The level of caustic nihilistic sarcasm around here is fucking deadly. You are all dying. Your ability to be human is being killed by this place.
I'm fucking done. Fuck off, /tv/. Enjoy your sad ironic lives.
This documentary was really overrated. Its very boring.
>>66594007
Uhh, did you get lost on your way to 9gag?
>>66594299
He has a point.
>>66594473
Should we join a facebook event? Kony 2012? He doesn't have a point at all. We're designed not to take atrocities to heart. Lives become statistics after a point. Especially when we're in no way attached to those lives. Deal with it nerd
>>66594520
You missed the point.
>>66594547
The point was shit, suck my dick
>>66594520
Literally was not that guys point at all
Embarrassing tbqh
>>66594007
No one makes you come here lol
>how is cyber butthurt a real thing
>>66594560
Are you pretending to be retarded?
>>66594576
>muh point
Suck my dick nerd
>>66594520
>Lives become statistics after a point.
I give you the conclusions of the modern capitalist system everyone.
>>66594748
the emphasis on statistics and more broadly, measurability (as a means of accountability) is more a characteristic of neoliberalism than capitalism
>>66594748
9/11 never forget :^)
>>66594779
Incorrect. It is decidedly a result of the industrial capitalism that grew out of the sweat shops and factories of europe. Modern Neo-liberalism is merely another form of the same old beast.
>>66592878
Why you need the right to keep and bear arms: the movie
>>66594860
Hey that's something. When 9/11 happened even some of Americans pseudo enemies offered their condolences. Most Americans I have met don't give a fuck about any other country. A kind of "nuke me all" mentality. Maybe it's the beer, maybe it's living in the fucking Bible Belt, maybe it's the wrong thread. Fuck it.
>>66595136
nobody cares about your meta perception of Americans and capitalism britfag
>>66594902
This. I live in an unarmed country and literally had nightmares about this happening after watching.
>>66594897
yes, neoliberalism did indeed evolve out of capitalism, but capitalism in and of itself doesn't require our contemporary emphasis on measurability. that came with neoliberalism
>>66592878
Awesome fucking documentary, no idea why it didn't get an oscar.
>>66594007
Now this is autism.
>>66595330
>capitalism in and of itself doesn't require our contemporary emphasis on measurability.
That is just demonstrably false. The fact that corporations began to exist and began to move huge amounts of capital around is where all of the research and interest in accurate accounting on a social level started. It was developed further under the neoliberal era of economic thought but I think you're implying that neo-liberalism in economic terms equates vaguely to political liberals and the left (ie not the democratic party but the far left) which is also incorrect. If you weren't I'm sorry, also if you weren't I fail to see why you think bringing up the neoliberal incarnation of finacial capitalism when it is not contradictory to the statement that "lives becoming statistics at some point is a conclusion of modern capitalism."
>>66594748
Stalin said it, you literal ballsack.
>>66594860
Hey that's something. When 9/11 happened even some of Americans pseudo enemies offered their condolences. Most Americans I have met don't give a fuck about any other country. A kind of "nuke me all" mentality. Maybe it's the beer, maybe it's living in the fucking Bible Belt, maybe it's the wrong thread. Fuck it.>>66595217
Haha close enough. Canadian
>there are people in this world who dont understand the merits of an armed populace
When Indonesia invaded East Timor they executed people by lining them all up on the ground and running over their heads with a truck.
>tfw your country is right next to them
>tfw we allowed them to do it all
>>66595555
>implying that stalin was left wing
You ever read animal farm, anon?
The soviet state was run like a corporation. This is common knowledge. They all use the same formulas to do literally the same jobs as their free market counterparts.
>>66595629
>Stalinism wasn't left wing
What the fuck am I reading.
>>66592878
I don't get why people, predominantly Americans, were so impressed with this.
Is it because America is one big safe space these days, sheltered from the outside world?
What were you expecting, that these people sit around in their room full of regret crying? I honest to god don't understand what you people were expecting that you find what is shown in this so absolutely shocking.
It was undoubtedly an interesting watch, it was done in an original away, but I can honestly say that it was pretty much what I expected of these people.
I'd be more interested in knowing who killed JFK then watching a documentary showing me how people who committed crimes against humanity are in fact people, not Cthulhu. They eat, drink, shit, piss and have a good old jolly laugh with their mates, just like the rest of the world. Again, do not understand what you guys were expecting.
>>66595674
Stalinism is totalitarianism and extermely pro-state. The difference between it and a rightist totalitarianism would simply be stated philosophical goals which have about as much relevance to the daily lives of people as the movements of the stars.
The right left dichotmy stopped being relevant when one system of societal organization proved to be more efficient than the others (capitalism). The only relevant distinction today is between people who are pro-archy and pro-anarchy.
Do you want the current system to continue being stable or don't you? That's the only spectrum that matters and has mattered since WWI. Every movement or part that is not for overthrowing capitalism is inexorably tied to the assumptions and goals of the modern capitalist system. And I should make it clear here that I am not in favor of destroying capitalism and returning to an anarchic state but I do find things like
>Lives become statistics after a point
(which may not be said in the west but is certainly how every organization conducts business) troubling.
At least in communist russia, the leader would literally say you didn't matter instead of insisting on your importance in ads while treating you as a number in every other sense.
>>66595920
babbies first political class
>>66595987
babbies first dismissive response
>>66595920
>At least in communist russia, the leader would literally say you didn't matter instead of insisting on your importance in ads while treating you as a number in every other sense.
This is THE dumbest thing said in this entire thread.
The people were the most important part of communist Russia. Behind the scenes maybe not, with the gulags and mass killings.
For the facade however, what was publicly shown, the people were no.1. Ridiculing the people was the biggest nono, the entire state would have disintegrated. The leader openly saying you, the people, didn't matter in communist Russia was unthinkable, it would have made a mockery of the system and by extension the General Secretary himself. No, "the people" as a whole, is the closest thing to a deity you will find in a communist state.
>>66596209
Anon, I know.
It was a flippant remark made for humor.
>>66594007
welcome to the real world, it's shit. not just "this place"
>>66594902
Except they were the conservative types that hoard guns. When America goes fascist it will be caused by the people with the guns. tbphwyf it already has been.
>>66595624
>they executed people by lining them all up on the ground and running over their heads with a truck.
I'm sorry but that's fucking hilarious. Could you imagine the looks on everyone face when someone suggested that.
>>66595624
Mongols just crushed sculls with clubs. Why do you need truck and bother with lining people?
>>66597828
>tbphwyfTo Be Perfectly Honest With You, Senpai?
>>66594902
>Why you need the right to keep and bear arms: the movie
They were Communists, do you really think they'd have supported the right to keep & bear arms (or any civl rights for that matter) and that they wouldn't have happily murdered FAR more people to insure their control of the country?
>>66594902
There were literally no gun controll in Russia before commies. Didn't help against them.
>>66597985
Don't take this the wrong way anon, but it' ensure not insure.
>>66594007
Welcome to New Sincerity bro.
>>66593245
Indonesia is like the 4th or 5th most populous nation in the world, and were the 2nd in tourist destination at one point. Crazy to think about.
>>66598241
Hi /lit/
>>66599943
here's one /tv/ can relate to (at least the second half of it)
>>66599968
>>66592878
This movie was incredibly confusing. It seemed that every other scene the dudes involved would swap viewpoints in their arguments. After 40 years or whatever they wouldn't be wishy-washy on their views. The editing always joined the conversation too late and left out a ton of context.
>>66599994
is this show redpilled?
>>66600031
>>66600031
>he doesn't want to smell minty fresh
>>66600046
>>66600043
???
>>66600059
>>66600074
I'm not sure whether to laugh at the man of sympathize with his relatively ridiculous hobby.
>>66600091
>>66595679
I wouldn't call it shocking or surprising, but it definitely forced me to put myself in their shoes and imagine living in that kind of society more than a newspaper article or whatever. It was a very good documentary. It didn't blow my mind or tell me anything new about humanity. But I thought it was really interesting to have such a candid firsthand account of atrocities like that. It doesn't shock me that people like that exist, but I've never had a two-week-long conversation with a person like that and I've certainly never seen them put on surreal re-enactments of their war crimes using family members of their victims as actors.
You have to admit it was really something special. And I've got nothing but respect for the filmmakers. They really dug deep and cut through the bullshit, found people that were directly involved, and let them speak for themselves. I really don't know what else you want from a documentary. I thought it deserved the hype completely
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>>66600153
>>66600182
>>66600205
>>66600228
>>66594007
>This place is vile, holy fucking shit. The level of caustic nihilistic sarcasm around here is fucking deadly. You are all dying. Your ability to be human is being killed by this place.
I bet you felt very clever writing this.
You're the only one who takes this place seriously. No one else does. By the sounds of it, /tv/ plays a bigger role in your life than anyone elses, which is pretty sad.
>>66592878
I honestlu worry that Americans and probably people from other parts of the world who knows nothing about the event the people the country or even the region will watch this and conclude that people here are evil
>>66600293
>you'll never be someone else's /tv/
>>66600306
>southeast asians
>not evil
:^)
>>66594227
I thought so too.
>>66600074
>all that tacky junk
>>66600182
Anwar looked so uncomfortable during the re-enactment scenes.
>>66600182
FAKE!
But bonus points for boogers.
