Why.....?
Visual effects are about faking reality.
>>66537285
You picked the scene with the worst FX in Mad Max to showcase why it should have won the award?
>>66537285
>muh explosion
go watch some michael bay shit you retard
>>66537305
Ex machina was done by one CGI geek in the basement or something
>>66537285
score the movies in visual effect from 1-10
then weight that score inversely with the budget of the movie. (divide)
then normalize back to interval 1-10
thats why
Mad Max was praised for its visual effects. kinda happy it didn't win
>>66537349
Muh robot waifu, go was battle angel atila or something
>>66537285
is that you getting BTFO?
>>66537362
So a really talented 14 year old should win an oscar if his indie looked descent enough on a 50 dollar budget?
>>66537394
>battle angel atila
dont know what it is but based on google pics, I will. thanks for the suggestion
>>66537394
I would if Cameron stopped jerking off in the ocean and pushing back his six Avatar sequels.
visual effects =/= special effects
>>66537439
Fuck you don't you understand. Only with his seed can he create new life and counteract the mass global extinction.
>He is Prometheus
>>66537285
average academy member
>>66537471
Whats the difference between visual effects? And special effects that are 99% visual?
It's because it wasn't nominated for much and voters wanted to give Ex Machina an Oscar. That's really all it comes down to.
>>66537285
Explosions are so dated though.
>>66537552
Since when do voters matter? If it they did the Oscars would be completely different
>>66537566
I'm confused. You realize that the winners are decided by voting right.
>>66537672
I thought the voting was done by a small number of old white people. Not the viewers?
>>66537285
Everybody can make fire and tornados.
Is much harder to make a machine body with moving parts inside a human body.
>>66537859
Winner best
>Visual Effects
coming through
>>66537285
Ex Machina was a great movie. Many felt that the actress better role was in this, but she was nominated for Danish girl as it more oscar bait.
So it was nominated for Screenplay (And everyone knew that Spotlight had the best screenplay) so visual effects. Concidering they did visual effects that suited a 150 million dollar film on a 15 million dollar film budget and the movie was very good they voted it in.
It was also well deserved. They avoided a ton of time savers to save money so a lot of hard work went into making Ava a reality.
Admittedly, about 80% of Fury Road had CGI in it, in various forms.
>>66537394
>go was battle angel atila
I will when Cameron can get his shit together to make the god damn movie.
>>66538098
After Avater 11 or 12 maybe he'll have time
>>66537805
That's correct. What part of that do you think conflicts with >>66537552 ?
Star Wars should have won
>>66537285
>"DUDE TORNADOES ON FIRE"
It's wind and flame, I can watercolor something on par with fury road. Machina looked very real desusempiafamchocolaterain.
>>66538364
Having the voting done by a bunch of old white men is as democratic and representative as having a bunch of white power worshippers vote on black equality rights
>>66537285
The final nail in the coffin for practical effects
It will only be CGI shitfests from now on
>>66538413
The most special effects != the best special effects.
>>66537511
Special effects is basically stuff done on set and captured by the actual camera, like explosions, fake blood, animatronics/puppetry.
Visual effects are post-production stuff like clever editing of two frames to create a single frame, or literally painting each frame to create lightning or simply CGI.
Of course many things can be either special effects or visual effects. Like you can make a CGI explosion or you can just explode something and film it. Or you can explode something and film or and edit into the frame in post.
My advice is to simply call everything "effects". People will know what you mean even if you don't differentiate between "visual" or "special" effects.
>>66538616
I guess you are also the type who does not understand why there are two sound oscars.
>>66537507
> average ex machina /tv/ worshipper
This was pretty surprising, for a small indie flick to win a technical award
>>66538616
But wasn't Mad Max like super edited afterwards?
how the FUCK did revenant beat sicario for best photography?
>>66538731
>blue screen some bitches belly
>get all the awards
:^)
>>66538747
Considering many of the vfx for Ex Machine were done by London based Double Negative, who have won 2 Academy Awards previously for Interstellar and Inception, not really.
>>66538800
It was shot in the cold ;-)
>>66538803
You don't know who special effects work so why are you even giving your opinion?
>>66538800
>>66538800
For shots like this.
>>66537418
yes, talent is talent
>>66537285
Voters had a hard on for brownie green card beggar. Common stuff.
>arguing about shit literally nobody will remember in 2 days
>>66538902
So mesmerizing
>>66538962
But if his formula is correct, anything that doesnt look like dogshit and is and moderately passable should win an oscar
>>66538807
You think the average Academy member knows this? Remember that the entire Academy votes for the winner, after the respective group nominates them. Those two movies were big Nolan blockbusters. I doubt all the Academy members even saw Ex-Machina.
>>66539039
But really the point is that that particular vfx company knows what it's doing and their work for Ex Machina was top notch, especially Ava herself.
>>66538800
Academy hates Deakins
>>66539030
If it gets that much buzz then sure. That formula should apply to the films that get nominated imo
>>66538800
SICARIO SHOULDA GOT BEST SCORE AND BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
MORRICONE'S LIFETIME OSCAR BEFORE HE DIES IS UNDERSTANDABLE
LUBEZKI DID GOOD WORK IN THE REVENANT
THE IMPORTANT THING IS MAD KUCK GOT SNUBBED ON BOTH, ESPECIALLY THE TOP TECHNICAL AWARD WHICH IS CINEMATOGRAPHY :^)
IT DIDN'T EVEN SWEEP THE TECHNICALS, LET ALONE THE REAL OSCARS LIKE BEST PICTURE OR BEST DIRECTOR
B T F O
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>>66539030
The visual work on Ex Machina was very good.
It was done on peanuts. They did a lot of new techniques to cut costs.
For example, if my team figures out how to do gravity/enders game quality Zero G shots for 1 million dollars instead of 25 million dollars, combined with a movie that was well received, I might win a Oscar for visual effects.
>>66538731
>>66538803
To be fair, it looks great.
>>66537354
And the fact that he did a better job than a team of people says a lot.
>>66539086
Sure, I'm not criticizing the choice, I was just saying how strange it was that a small indie film won, especially since most of the nominees in visual effects are almost always big budget capeshit/action/sci-fi monsters.
>>66539113
But should buzz be a relevant factor? In that sense the Avengers movies should get nominated for all the buzz they stir
>>66537285
Ex Machina actually had really great effects and the visuals of the movie in general were probably the best thing about it.
>>66538902
>CGI video game blood
>>66537394
>Battle Angel Attila
Is that the manga about the cyborgs that sacked Rome?
>>66538800
Because Chivo is better. He didn't even with his best work from last year, so chill out.
>>66539120
Why do you type like a teenager?
>>66539222
even win*
>>66539120
I think it got what it deserved.
I just finished watching Ex Machina, maybe it's the quality of my download but the effects don't look like anything special
>>66539183
I meant if they get noticed for that relevant facet of the movie than yes buzz is pretty important. I know academy nominated movies aren't usually shoestring budgets but among the ones that get nominated, if one part really stands out is one category and was done with some financial restrictions yet still stood out it should be recognized and praised.
>>66539325
*in one category
>>66539299
>thanks YIFY
>>66539222
>Chivo
He's not your mate so why are you calling him that, letterboxd buff?
>>66539416
nice argument. Point taken.
>>66537285
Pitty award. Ex Machina was a film everyone clearly liked yet didn't land in any of the other tiers, so they just awarded it in the one it did.
And that's why the Oscars are a joke, films and actors that deserve it that year don't win, but holdovers from previous years that are "owed" Oscars do, and the smaller categories are used as a pat on the back for films that should have been contenders with the big boys.
Animated categories and documentary categories, you're lucky if they even watch your film, so most often they just default to Pixar or whatever is closest to home.
>>66538538
>Besides stereotypically old and white, the voters are established professionals of the cinematic industry.
From wikipedia: "Of the 5,100+ active voters confirmed, 94% were Caucasian, 77% were male, and 54% were found to be over the age of 60. 33% of voting members are former nominees (14%) and winners (19%)."
If you think that's bad can we talk about the absolute horseshit of a doc about a rich white drug addict woman who ODed winning over all the other actual meaningful documentaries?
Fuck the Oscars for that.
>>66539416
>well known nickname even used by critics
go to sleep
>>66538902
I like this mexican guy.
>>66539586
all these anons are butthurt that mad max didn't win visual effects.
Thing is Visual effects is post production work, and a lot of mad Max was live action shots. Thus a lot of the splendor of Mad Max was not visual effects. That why Mad Max won 6 awards including editing.
Thus Visual effects was a question of this - what was more impressive.
Star Wars, the bear that ate leo, or Ava? They voted Ava since they did a great job with little money.
>>66539659
Remember when the Act of Killing got snubbed for some showbiz flick nobody remembers or cares about? Only won because it was the only film those old farts watched because some of their friends were in it.
I don't understand why EX Machina was nominated for anything.
>>66539586
Just because your tasteless and no cinematic knowledge mind likes _ doesn't mean _ deserves it
>>66539749
>Post production...
God someone post the original screens so this nigga can see the post production difference
>>66539209
God damn it. Even the robots in 2016 have fallen for the magic pixie dreamgirl meme.
Jesus Christ. Like why the fuck would someone wear that shit on a date? Fuck.
>>66539842
Because it's cute and lots of men like it.
>>66538902
>13 seconds in
>Hits Indian
>Second goes by
>Indian flinches away
>>66539749
Yeah, you're right. They even surgically removed Charlize Theron's arm off, so that didn't count....
>>66539825
I love Ex Machina, but I'd rather see it win in a category it actually deserves like best picture or best director or something.
>>66539842
>>66539870
>>66538902
Man, the cinematography did not suit the movie.
>>66539749
The stunts were practical, but most of the rest of the film was "enhanced" with CGI.
https://www.fxguide.com/featured/a-graphic-tale-the-visual-effects-of-mad-max-fury-road/
>>66537285
Th upper one looks more complicated and better than fucking fire.
>>66539226
TALKING ABOUT >MUH FLAMING GUITAR IN 3D WANKBAIT FOR EDGY 15YOS
>SO METAL!
MAD KUCK IS TRASH
>>66539290
YEAH, THE JUNK OSCARS
ONE THING IT DESERVED, THAT SHOT OF THE BREATHING AIR INTAKE LIKE THE CAR WAS ALIVE GASPING FOR AIR
SO THAT'S SOUND EDITING
BUT THE PATRIARCHY SMASHING PLOT MAKES THE MOVIE FOREVER SHIT, ITS NOT EVER GONNA SHAKE THAT LABEL WHICH IS 100% ACCURATE :^)
>>66539839
>>66539964
Not saying Mad Max didn't have post production, but what made Mad Max great was the actual production, not the post production, which is nothing special for the budget.
>>66539964
>I love Ex Machina, but I'd rather see it win in a category it actually deserves like best picture or best director or something.
Well they gave the best actress award to the actress who played ava, lot of voters went on record to say they were voting for both her role in the Danish girl and Ex Machina, as they didn't nominate both due to vote splitting.
>>66540063
>complains about edgy 15 year olds
>types like one
Is this satire?
>>66540004
I'm sure you know more about cinematography than Lubezki
>>66539659
>rich white
Amy Winehouse was a Jew.
>>66540063
shit CGI
>>66540004
night night Rog. Tissue?
>>66538803
except it wasnt a screen at all
>>66540063
terrible, I walked out the cinema at this point
>>66540158
I'm sure you've never criticized someone in a field you know little to nothing about and expected to be taken seriously.
I'm a fan of some of Lubezki's work, but his style just didn't suit that film. Hell, arguably the director didn't either, but obviously you can point at the Oscars or similar award ceremonies and say that I'm wrong. Because the Oscars are clearly never wrong.
>>66540324
Rude
>>66539842
in the movie she's impersonating an innocent and sweet girl, a bit awkward like the guy, when she's actually a cold blooded terminator.
>>66539842
She playing a cute, harmless robot that being imprisoned.
When the reality is that she lacks all remorse.
>>66540324
>Because the Oscars are clearly never wrong.
Amen.
Wetware brains when?
>>66539226
More than half of the posters are teens. Why do you think there's so much shitposting and Trumpcucks? They post from phones, forgo any semblance of rationality and punctuation, and came after the stormfront invasion.
That being said, Mad Max was a great action movie and should have won at least 3 awards. Reminded me of Crank 1-2 in terms of constant action and it also had great characterization, especially for the villains.
>>66540212
holy shit, thats amazing that they went to that trouble
>>66537285
Cgi trumps practical effects grandpa
>>66537439
I thought Cameron retired.
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