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So, are these really the best two shows on right now?
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>>65077040
Mr robot was good but I was kind of disappointed by the last few episodes. They needed to clear a few things up. I understand cliff hangers are necessary but give us something.
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>>65077252
I think it's just that there's a few major revelations that completely throws you just before the end so when it does end it leaves you scratching your head feeling like there should be more. A rewatch helps I found. Season 2 when?
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>>65077412
There is so many unexplained things. Like gidian, tyrell, e Corp after the collapse, and tyrells fucking weirdo wife. She gives me a vibe like she's in on something.
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>>65077040
Both are pushed heavily by Netflix shills
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>>65077040

Mr. Robot can get a bit silly and heavy-handed with the angst at times, but overall it's a pretty goddamn good show, raises some good points, seems to delight at spitting in the face of the standard TV formula and I like that about it.

Master of None is just riding the white guilt wave. It's alright, occasionally funny, but it's only pretending to be doing something special.
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>>65077040
No, Fargo and True Detective are
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leftovers and mr.roboto are the two best imo

peaky blinders is the best running but it wasn't on this year.
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>>65077532
what does that have to do with their actual quality?
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>>65077584

Watching Peaky Blinders restored all the hope I have in Netflix as a content producer which was destroyed by Master of None.
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>>65077580
>someone liked true detective seaons 2
ew
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>>65077040
Can't speak for Mr. Robot, but Master of None was refreshingly honest and thoughtful. I related to something in almost every episode despite the characters being well-off New Yorkers. Sure it's a bit preachy at times, but unless you're /pol/ (therefore beyond reason) you'll find something to appreciate and think about in every episode.
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>>65077516
Hopefully all season 2 material. Also since whiterose is working with the ecorp CEO the collapse must have been part of the plan which is interesting.
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>>65077516
Tyrell's wife is just a sociopath who's manipulating Tyrell
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>>65077628
Besides all jokes, TD Season 2 is the best Season I've seen in my life. Counting all series
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>>65077638

You perfectly encapsulated how I feel about this show.

It attempts to be exactly as you describe it, but the execution is so sloppy it falls on its face.

Faux-depth.
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>>65077665
>Literally forcing the premature birth of your baby to stop your disgraced husband from going to jail.
I don't think she's manipulating him senpai. I think she's steering him towards greatness but she still loved him and tires to protect him after his fall from grace. She could have just let him get arrested and jumped onto another young aspiring corporate man.
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>>65077628
season 2 was awesome

episodes 6 to 8 were phenomenal
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>>65077617
Any news on when the next season will be out?
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>>65077689
Jesus fuck why? The plot was in goddamn shambles and there was not a single likable let alone interesting character. It was all shit, like all of it.
I dont care about the bitching of misogyny or whatever people cried about .It was legitimately the worst told story I had ever seen. What the fuck else have you watched?
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>>65077735
i do think she loves him but she is manipulating him, it starts to get to him as the show goes on.

also considering Tyrell was almost the CTO for the biggest company in the world, it'd be harder to just find another.
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>>65077842
>I watch movies/series for the plot/characters
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>>65077827
october probably, shooting started a few months ago
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>>65077827

None that I've heard. It's flown so far beneath the radar I'm a little worried Netflix might drop it.
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>>65077878
what the fuck are you talking about
are you seriously saying TD season 2 was good because it "looked good"
Is Avatar your favorite movie too dumb fuck?
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>>65077040
Master of None is ok if you can stomach the shitty acting. Really though, just watch Louis instead. It does the same "Slice of Life" storytelling but with far more powerful themes and performances.
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>>65077842
>The plot was in goddamn shambles and there was not a single likable let alone interesting character. It was all shit, like all of it.
how was the first season any different?

green paint = green ears
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>>65077954
Nah, I didn't like Avatar

I don't speak English and I watch American movies without subs so I can appreciate the art on it without being influenced by dialogues

If the plot is one of the most relevant parts of a movie, it's a shit movie
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>>65078015
that's not a plot point, thats just a shitty detail that ultimately didnt mater, but at least Season two tried to mean something. Yeah yeah it was kooky existential shit, but at least shit happened in season 1.
NOTHING Happened in season 2, not a god damn thing.
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>>65078122
>NOTHING Happened in season 2, not a god damn thing.
You should stick to Superhero films and Star Wars
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>>65078122
>that ultimately didnt matter

>NOTHING Happened in season 2

might need to rewatch that thing you are obsessed with.
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>>65078057
wow you are fucking stupid
plot isnt just churned out by dialogue
and when the main point of movies and tv series is to tell a story and it doenst then its a shit show
you want something that doesnt fail at its purpose go fucking watch an experimental film you dumbass
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>>65077040
The Knick, the Leftovers, Fargo, and Narcos were all better.

But the best show of the year was Making a Murderer.
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>Netflix
>USA
>Good anything
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>>65077040
Didn't see Mr Robot.

MON is one of those shows that has the chops to be funny, but just feels weighed down by the writing. The humor is there, but it's never indulged. Shows like Curb and Louie find that fine line of ridiculousness and reality, and MON just doesn't know how to balance that. It has a lot of effort put in, but it's a mediocre show.
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>>65077735
No she definitely manipulates him. Where do you think his ideas stem from? She's the mastermind behind all of the moves he's been doing. Some of it he goes overboard but that's because she has so much power over him. That scene with elliot when he was looking for Tyrell was creepy as fuck if you ask me.
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>>65078235
Narcos was quite bad

>>65078234
Can you speak Spanish, Danish or French? Watch Jauja without subs and you will understand my point
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>>65078282
>>65077874
You are both quite right now that I think about it. Do we have any idea what happened to Tyrell?
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>>65078057
i figure youd be the best to ask

do you like any scifi that doesnt rely heavily on plot and mostly on visuals? could you rec some?
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>>65078381
people think he's dead and has something to do with the gun in the popcorn machine.

personally i doubt they'd kill off such an interesting character so soon, especially after starting to delve into his character
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>>65078057
>I don't speak English
wat
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If I hate Aziz's standup but really like his performance in Parks and Rec would I like Master of None?
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>>65078405
I'm not a big fan of scifi movies, the last I've seen and enjoyed was Interstellar but I assume you've already seen it
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>>65078417
If tyrell is in fact dead I'll be pissed. He was a big part of the show and evil at most times was a very interesting character.
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>>65078057
Writing is part of the art you utter mong
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is the guy from Mr. Robot a good representation of the /r9k/ outcast type? I see them championing it a bit at times.
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>>65078535
probably some shitskin or third worlder anyway

just enjoys the flashy movements and colors on his laptop
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>>65078535
Writing in the sense of directing and acting coordination? Sure

Writing as in dialogues? Nah, just as irrelevant as lyrics in music
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>>65077040
>Asneeze Aslurpee
>good

Choose 1
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>>65078599
No, he gets pussy, talks to girls and does recreational drugs

>>65078605
Yes, I'm both of these

There is no need to insult my persona, but I see using ad hominems is an easy way to avoid the argument
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>"television has usurped film in terms of quality"
>the best show on television is some street shitter complaining about white people

Why do people say this shit again?
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>>65078599
not really, a show about /r9k/ would just be some autismal foreigner crying about stupid shit
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>>65078605

>shitskin
>cozy in bed with a laptop
>not in a cramped internet cafe using a thrice-recycled Dell ca. 1998 trying to scratch the ever-present stench of fecal matter from his nose

nigga
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>>65078616
>Being this clueless
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>>65078599
I think It's been confirmed as canon that Elliott is a Sheevposter on /tv/.
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>>65078721
Would you please correct me?

When I want to read I go to a book, not to a movie
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>>65078599
It's how /r9k/ thinks everyone else sees them. They are wrong
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>>65078692

This.

I mean, I get why /r9k/ likes it, but it doesn't actually represent them.
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>>65077040
cuck
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>>65078515
His performance is like Parks, but the writing is like his standup.
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>>65078814
/r9k/ likes it? thought they'd be the ones complaining that he has sex once and uses drugs (even though that's hardly exclusive to normal people)
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>>65078772
>Dialogue in a film is like reading a book.
That's pretty fucking stupid m80. It's like saying reading a script is the same as watching a stage play.
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>>65077412
My mom thinks Tyrell is Elliot, could this be true? How would this make any sense at all?
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shit shows for shit people desu senpai
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Master of none is literally awful, pseudo-Woody Allen bullshit. I dropped at the very last episode over the Wedding Scene because it was so cringeworthy
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>>65078890
not that guy but I've lurked r9k since the supreme gentleman's rampage. with every shooting related to r9k, the board gets exposure to more normies. a lot of people there are alright with drugs now, the straight edge outcasts have been drowned out.
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>>65078890

I thought they liked it?

I don't actually care enough about that place to go and ask them, though, and their general opinions about everything are pretty much irrelevant to me.
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>>65078920
Would you please correct me then? You are only saying I'm wrong but you are not explaining what would be "right"
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>>65078921
I think Elliot being Mr Robot pretty much confirmed that he is in fact, the whole cast as well.
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>>65078921
it wouldn't and it's not.
they had a shit ton of ways to show that mr.robot wasn't real.

in the first 5 mins of the first episode Mr.robot appears in a way that makes it impossible for him to be real.
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>>65077532
Mr. Robot is on USA though
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>>65079025

Fuck off USA shill.
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>>65079008
You haven't actually made any coherent argument. All you've said is that dialogue is irrelevant in movies, which it clearly fucking isn't considering the vast majority of films would be impossible to follow without it.
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>>65079089
You telling the USA shill to fuck off has inadvertently shilled USA.
so fuck off.
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Master of None is an alright comedy, honestly I've seen better ones, I don't get the critical acclaim since it's just too much similar to Louie, but Louie is actually better.
Hoping it improves, for sure. The funniest part is Ansari's parents acting.
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>>65079011
>>65079009

Would kind of give the scene with Tyrell's wife more sense though, wouldn't it? That I think was her logic.
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>>65079114
That's my point, you don't need to "follow it"

By your logic Godard movies are crap
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>>65079188
no, considering she tells elliot that if he hurt Tyrell she'll kill him.
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>>65079188
Plot twist: Elliot is actually the wife as well.
>>65079248
She knows about the split personality and the fact that she is one of them. She was saying you better not have deleted Tyrell personality.
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>>65077617
Isnt pesky just some shit they bought off the bbc?
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>>65077040

I didn't see what the big fuss about Master of None was. It's alright, but it really never hooked me, and the characters felt a bit stiff.
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>>65079329
yes
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Mr. Robot is literally 10/10 television.
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>>65078057
>I don't speak English
everything I say is a lie
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>>65079883
Its definitely thought provoking with interesting storylines and plot twists unlike the majority of television these days. Eagerly awaiting season 2 family.
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>>65077040
If by best you mean worst, then yes.
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>>65077584
>>65077617
Kek peaky blinders was an incredibly promising show that shat the bed in the final few minutes in a truly british fashion, channeling the last sherlock series.
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>>65077040
People on here shit on Master of None because of muh diversity, but I thought it was amazing, especially the way they portrayed how a long-term relationship changes over time.
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>>65080174
what are you talking about? S2 finale was amazing.
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Master of none is one of the first shows where they have legitimately bad actors and it jarred me.

I don't fucking care if it's his real family or whatever, the mother was fucking god awful in every single line and the father is literally penguin of doom status

I'm only on like episode 6, though the parts not involving his parents are quite good. Will finish/10
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>>65080227
>writing yourself in a red herring
>ready to die since there's no possible way out for him
>"oh jk the government wants to collude with a known gangster and killer"
>"lets go home and celebrate to the shitty arctic monkeys like nothing ever happened!"

Get a clue dude, it was so obvious that they wrote themselves in a corner and it was lazily patched up. Very poorly done. The shame of it was the previous episodes were brilliant, and that's why it made the ending that much more painful. Went from a 9/10 to a 6 in a matter of 10 minutes. Pretty impressive actually.
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>>65080450
it's funny that you think you are making some sort of point here rather than just complaining about your opinions
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>>65080537
Funny how you addressed none of my points and put forth some lame attempt at wit
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>>65077628

>he hates season 2

spotted the redditor
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>>65080593
you never made any points
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Master of None has a good setup but the acting and a lot of the jokes are paltry. Hopefully they get a new writing staff that doesn't include Asiz Ansari
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>>65080629
The last three green texts, again you're not really saying anything of relevance to the show. Merely attempting to nitpick at me. Makes me question whether or not you actually watched the show.
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>>65080700
ironic thing is the closest thing to a point was your first comment, the rest is just stuff you didn't like.
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>>65080783
The point was the first greentext, the next three are an explanation of what happened in the show. Anything on your end yet?
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>>65080839
>The point was the first greentext
i thought it was the last 3?
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>>65080920
Yeah, thought so lol
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>>65078963
woody allen is better than this shit.
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>>65080968
guess he just forgot that he wrote that.
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