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Am I wrong or edgy if I 100% sided with his character?
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Am I wrong or edgy if I 100% sided with his character?
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Of fucking course, you are.
He kills innocent children because of some 'revenge' plot of his.
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>>64916940
He was the worst part of the movie. You're a faggot.
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>>64916940
If you agree with him killing the wife and children you are literally a psychopath.
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>>64916940
>his wife was beheaded
>his daughter dropped in a vat of acid
>even fucking CIA allies with him

You're suppose to side with him. Just don't EVER point a gun at him.
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Which part? The killing the dude's family part? Tbh, I did as well.

Not killing that innocent cop though. He was a chiller.
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They're all animals
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as opposed to whom? Blunt's character is naive and doesn't understand how the world works. Del Toro gets shit done.
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>>64917019
>>64917025

Regular old me maybe wouldn't have done the things he did. But if I had the same life experiences he had, I would probably do it desu
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>>64917057
>innocent
He was crooked as fuck.
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Reminder that Armond White loved this movie, so it's officially patrician
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Why did he always look like he had a hangover though?
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>>64917057

>innocent

lel
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>>64917019
>I enjoyed Emily blunts nonsense
If anything we needed more of del toro being a badass and more CIA doing shady things
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>>64917180
I was talking about the one who stops him in the middle of the night on the highway. Was he crooked? Even so, not enough to deserve to fucking die.
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>>64917205
Armond has some fucking nice ass taste in films
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The CIA character should've been played by Aiden Gillen in my opinion
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>>64917270

Explain why he deserved to die less than the various other cartel lackeys Del Taco executed without a second thought in the ending sequence.

Besides, that cop was dead the moment he saw Del Toro's character.
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Am I wrong or edgy if I 100% enjoyed seeing Kate get strangled to death?
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>>64917297

Fuck that, Brolin was perfect spook.
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>>64917359
I dunno, saw it a while ago.
>Besides, that cop was dead the moment he saw Del Toro's character.
Yeah, sure, doesn't mean he deserved it.
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Am I completely logical for siding with this motherfucker right here?
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Pretty shit movie really.
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>>64917523

>my name is Steve forsing, I used to be an operator, until..
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>>64917205
BASED ARMOND TO BE H

SICARIO HATERS BTFO
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>>64917523
Best character of 2015.
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>>64917248
>>64917144
Blunt was the moral compass.

If you related more to the "badass operators," you're a cowadoody faggot who demonstrates the movie's message that doing the right thing is always hardest.

Blunt's character and her principles represents the light of civilization in the face of barbarity.

Her "losing" that fight doesn't make her any less right.
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>>64917205
>Armond White
Literally who
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>>64916940
I agree except the children and that innocent cop party.

The wife had to go obviously, It's either she knows that her guy is killing innocent families on a daily basis or she too stupid too notice. Either way she had to go.
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>>64917667

She is so fucking beautiful, maybe it's the hormones, but damn

Even at gunpoint, and shaking with fear, she is stunning and makes me swoon
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>>64917667
the right thing is stopping the rampant murders and cartel violence or limiting them severely. The CIA and Del Toro represent that solution. Blunt represents a bleeding heart with no actual solutions
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>>64917747
I'd argue she's even more beautiful at gunpoint.

If Alejandro sexed her up right then and there I would not have blamed him.
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>>64917705
FAMILIA FOR FAMILIA, FAMPAI

THERE WAS NO DECISION TO BE MADE, JEFE'S KIDS WERE ALREADY DEAD
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>>64917393
no, she hates america and i wish she would die
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>>64917812

>"You remind me of my daughter when you're scared."

>throws down the gun and shreds the paper
>start aggressively making out, pealing off each others clothes
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I just noticed something.

Was Silvio at the Bridge of the Americas?
I think he was the mexican cop that Kate shot through the SUV window.
That cop was armed with an AK-103, and the same rifle is later shown in Silvio's bedroom.

I guess he survived getting shot in the vest like Kate did later on.
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>>64917955
Is this a joke?
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>>64917748
They represent the easier solution given the resources available to them.

But if you think killing women and children (yes, even cartel women and children) should represent a solution to anything, then you officially forfeit your right to be upset or feign outrage at any and all instances of civilians ever being targeted.

If the idea is to win then everyone is fair game and we should start calling terrorists soldiers since we're back to total war where everything goes.
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>>64917986
No, why?
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>>64917705
>It's either she knows that her guy is killing innocent families on a daily basis or she too stupid too notice. Either way she had to go.

That's a bold assumption to make. It's possible she didn't know anything about his operations when she started dating him, and by the time she suspected anything, what was she going to do?

Leave him and risk having him execute her just to hold onto his sons?

Have you ever tried leaving a cartel leader in a country run by cartel leaders?
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>>64917989
what's the harder solution? She certainly didn't give one in the movie. Anyways yes, in the real world everyone is fair game. Part of growing up is becoming more cynical and understanding that almost everything boils down to money and/or power. Do you have a hope in hell of stopping the drug trade? Hell no. Would a cartel monopoly bring some order and control? Yes. So you go for that.
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>>64917667
She wanted to prosecute them though

That wouldn't have saved anybody. The "right" thing is to kill. I'm sorry that's just the way it is
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>>64918070
Because that crooked cop was shot in the head
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>>64918142
Is that why they killed El Chappo? Oh right, they're extraditing him alive and well.
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>>64917947
I kind of wish something like this went down:

>Al holds gun up to Kate's chin

>Kate: "You said I reminded you of your daughter... would you have done this to her?"

>Al: "No. But you're not her. And the man who would have cared died with her."

I dunno, something like that.

And then they fuck.
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>>64918210
Was he? I don't remember.
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Sicario reminded me of Jin-Roh. It's a world of wolves and sheep.
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>>64918105
Well del torro had to take a family member and children > women in my book. So I'm just giving him the best choice in his situation. The guy killed his entire family so a family member had to die. It's one of those gray area things, love movies like these like Unthinkable.
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>>64918266

I just want to see Emily blunt sexy time
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The action was so smooth and tactical, was a bit disappointed at how he just PEW PEW I'M BATMAN'd at the end.
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Dear God, thank you for making Emily Blunt very attractive, it makes me happy she's pretty, I like to look at her
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>>64917393
>>64917667

>Blunt Abuse: the movie

She was so great. Perfect audience insert/false protagonist.
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>>64918324
ITS NOT "A" FAMILY MEMBER

CARTEL TOOK EVERYTHING FROM MEDELLIN, SO MEDELLIN TOOK EVERYTHING FROM CARTEL

PLUS CARTEL HIMSELF, SO AFTER SETTLING THE FAMILY SCORE, MEDELLIN THEN WINS
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>>64918218
So he can live in a comfy ass prison in the us or possibly escape again in the next 6 months as we wait for extradition again

The message we are sending here to the cartels is we are incompetent. We should be sending a message that says see this you're next bitch
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>>64918218
They should have killed El Chappo and his family.
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>>64917393
Psst.
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>>64918142
>>64918133
If your principles can't hold up when things get dicey, they're basically worthless.

If you're alright with your government looking the other way when it comes to those who would murder women and children, yes even if it's to prevent more women and children from being killed, you're effectively saying that the rule of law and concepts of universal justice, civility and basic human decency that generations after generations of people fought and died for aren't worth protecting, that it's alright to violate them at the earliest convenience.

In the end, you're saying nothing matters. Not right or wrong, just who's left standing. And if that's where you're coming from then by all means embrace it. But don't pretend it's anything else.
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>>64918556
>Psst.
EY CABRON, THATS MY BITCH

ONLY I GET TO BULLY HER
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>>64918621
>If your principles can't hold up when things get dicey, they're basically worthless.

you just described your own principles, not mine.

Try and prosecute some billionaire asshole who may or may not be on the other side of the world directing terrorist strikes or fueling drug trade in your own country. What are you gonna do, hand in an extradition request? Those people run entire countries. In the real world sometimes people need to die and sometimes innocent people who are too close to them need to die as well. This ain't a Disney cartoon. And you didn't answer - if that's the easy solution, which is the hard one?
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>>64918324
>Well del torro had to take a family member and children > women in my book. So I'm just giving him the best choice in his situation.

There's no justice or "best choice" in it, you don't right the wrong of a murdered family by murdering another family.

It was pure revenge, and maybe it was very satisfying revenge.

But it has nothing to do with justice.

I bet you were also wishing Sean killed Castor's son instead of adopting him.
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Such a spooky soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdm5EkaPdeY
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>>64917667
I related to the operators because they actually saw the problem for what it was: an unending unwinnable war in which they did their best to minimize their expenses and casualties.
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>>64917523
Is that Dodd Gerhardt?
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>>64918621
I see what your saying and I totally get your point of view and I think it is the morally right way of looking at the world but

Honestly man I'm in the might makes right camp and it is what it is.
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>>64918845
Yes.
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>you knew when that bomb was going to go off
Are movies becoming more predictable?
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It deserves these 3 awards desu

Cinematography
Original score
Sound editing
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>>64918768
Nope in castor's case he didn't purposely kill sean's son, it was an accident.

But I do think on unthinkable that samual l jackson's character should have killed a family member or two just to get a hold of the info of where the bomb was planted. I know that the us and the whole situation in the middle east made the guy want to bomb them in the first place but that doesn't mean you should not do everything you can to stop him.
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>>64918768
>you don't right the wrong of a murdered family by murdering another family.
YOU DO IF YOU WANT TO UTTERLY DESTROY THE MAN WHO ORDERED YOUR FAMILY KILLED

HE ONLY DID IT TO CREATE THE ULTIMATE DESPAIR IN HIM BEFORE KILLING HIM

IF HIS WIFE AND KIDS WERE RIGGED WITH SFX SQUIBS AND ONLY APPEARED TO DIE, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE WITH THAT

AS LONG AS CARTEL FELT FOR HIS LAST MOMENT ALIVE THAT HE LOST EVERYTHING, THAT WAS MEDELLIN'S GOAL
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>>64918983
I'm starting to like you
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>>64918747
For me, the line was crossed not when they got a Colombian mercenary involved, but when they basically looked the other way at him killing a whole family while trying to pressure a federal agent into agreeing it was by the book.

That's called corruption however you try to spin it and in real life that kind of shit would to Senate hearings and investigative committees.

But to answer your question, the harder thing to do would've been to make the public aware of what kind of activities were going on down there, and to have society determine whether that sits right with them.

If it's what needs to be done, then there should be smokescreen about the methods involved. Tactics and long-term plans, yes, but not methods. If society deems it a necessary evil, then the paradigm will shift accordingly along with legislation.
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>>64917025
He didn't kill the gangester's family. The gangster did it himself when he decided to kill other people's families. Sicario did nothing wrong. He was just doing God's work.
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>>64918983
this. this bleeding heart faggot can preach from his nice comfy home but singing kumbaya and trying to turn the other cheek wont solve shit

the world is cruel, deal with it
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>>64918621
>If your principles can't hold up when things get dicey, they're basically worthless.
>you're effectively saying that the rule of law and concepts of universal justice, civility and basic human decency that generations after generations of people fought and died for aren't worth protecting

I don't remember drugs being illegal all those years. Which is where this entire thing stems from.
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>>64918845
No, that's Michael Westen
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>>64917025
/thread
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>>64918983
>YOU DO IF YOU WANT TO UTTERLY DESTROY THE MAN WHO ORDERED YOUR FAMILY KILLED

What does that actually accomplish?

Cartel guy was right, Al's wife and daughter wouldn't have liked what he became.

But he wasn't doing it for them, he was doing it for himself.

Hence, selfish.
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>>64917747
It's the magic of the Blunt.

Very good actress
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>>64918444
be still my beating heart...
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>>64917523
I've got a boner
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Anyone notice how this movie shows that the cultural pendulum is shifting back to more conservative, common sense opinions? This would have never been made during the bush presidency when the libcuck media demonized the cia for shit like pouring a little water on some killer's face? The whole water jug scene was a hat tip to how retarded libcucks are. He didn't even use it. The movie clearly wants you to side with the cia and shows how ineffective and impotent sjw cucks like kate are.
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>>64917205
Actually in his best of the year he chose another movie over Sicario, can't remember which one.
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>>64917989
Killing the woman and children wasn't something the CIA would do. They essentially left it in the hands of Sicaro and he made the decision. They very well could have been left alive.
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>>64919137
the show nor him didn't say it was justice, it was revenge, even the guys in the cia says so and they used that to get rid of the big guy in mehico and centralize the drug trade to 1 cartel therefore eliminating needless killings and wars
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>>64917523
Is he the equivalent of traitor trooper from star wars, minimal screen time with a lasting impression
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No, not at all.

He was right. The kids of a cartel leader would probably follow the path of their father, especially after a guy killed their father.

Basically, he was saving the world from two little cartel lords.
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>>64919180
im actually getting a boner looking at kate >>64919145

sheesh, she is pretty, understatement of the year
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>>64918872
>Honestly man I'm in the might makes right camp and it is what it is.

That's fine. Just don't ever pretend it's ever anything more noble than eat or be eaten.

Because when you're the fly instead of the windshield, you'll have no right whatsoever to cry foul.

Since you effectively advocate the tearing down of all institutions looking out for the weak and those who can't fend for themselves.
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>>64917523
People keep saying he's sad, but he looks pretty happy to me.
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>>64919087
>he said as he enjoyed the comforts of protection others provide for him when in a real cut throat world he would be the first to get eaten
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>>64919237
She's so cute even in tac gear.
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>>64919052
society would just have a kneejerk reaction, defund the operation and more cartel violence would ensue within the US.

Del Toro was the best tool at the right moment. He helped the CIA immensely and the only thing he required is to be able to kill the kingpin as well as his family. This was the price to be paid in order to get results
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>>64919052
Remember fast and furious? The Senate doesn't give a fuck what goes down there
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>>64919325
It's because her femininity comes across even though it's played down to the max.
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>>64919137
>But he wasn't doing it for them, he was doing it for himself.
THEY ARE DEAD SO NOBODY CAN DO ANYTHING FOR THEM

HE DOES IT FOR HIMSELF IN THAT HE AVENGES THEIR DEATHS, WHICH IS WHAT A MAN IS SUPPOSED TO DO

TURN THE CHEEK LIBKUCKS AREN'T EXPECTED TO UNDERSTAND IT, LIBKUCKS AREN'T WOLVES :^)
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>>64917523
When I pee, it burns.
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>>64919212
If some dark god came down to Earth and said, "I will spare your world if you'll sacrifice but one child in an unholy blood ritual," what would you do? What about if it was your loved one?

Maybe you'd be fine with it, but some would argue that if the rights of even just a single innocent has to be forfeited, that's still one too many. That's kind of one of the core tenets of individualism.

Saying a group of women and children deserves to die for the greater good is the basically same concept but without the pomp. If you think their lives are forfeit in service of a greater cause, then so is that of you and yours.
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>>64919424
>It's because her femininity comes across even though it's played down to the max.
THIS IS WHY SHE IS A GOOD CHARACTER
THIS IS WHY I PREFER HER TO REY AS AN EXAMPLE OF A STRONG WOMAN

because shes actually realistic and acts like a fucking woman, and not some propaganda vehicle for the SJW tumblr crowd

THIS IS A CHARACTER EVEN AS A MAN I CAN RESPECT AND LOOK UP TO

bravo, emily blunt, everyone
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He didn't have to kill his wife and kids in front of him like that.
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>>64919137

>Not having a burning desire to avenge the people who killed your family

If you could also do it without any authorities coming after you, then it would be ideal. Yes it won't bring them back, but you did the right thing and you could move on afterwards.
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>>64919334
>society would just have a kneejerk reaction, defund the operation and more cartel violence would ensue within the US.

Then that would be their mistake to make.

You don't remove the choice just because you think people will choose poorly.

That's tends to be how fascism starts.
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>>64919562
i want to kiss her badly
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> emily blunt will NEVER step on your balls
just die in my sleep already
( ._.) ( ;_;)
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>>64917523
Burn notice rescinded, baby.
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Why does Emily Blunt always have that look of pain on her face?
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>>64919429
>CAPS LOCCKCKKC XDDDXD

Nope. I know you're meming but it's still retarded.
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>>64919602
I keep saying "the world" but you keep making me

The world isn't black and white. Democracy isn't a perfect system, it's the least shitty one in the long run. It's limited in many ways and this movie demonstrates one. The downsides of mob rule were already described by Plato. Compromises have to be made.
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>>64919562
>Yes it won't bring them back, but you did the right thing and you could move on afterwards.

Nope. Avenging innocents by killing innocents doesn't accomplish anything and sure is fuck doesn't fill the void left by those you lost.

It's precisely for this reason that blood feuds can last decades, because no one wants to take that necessary step of ending the cycle.
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>>64919678

its the same for rose byrne, why does she look like shes about to burst into tears always

actually philosophically, it has to do with dostoevsky's the idiot where the protagonist, the prince, looks at a painting of a beautiful woman, and points out that she is beautiful but that she has a hint of saddness on her face, that sparks the painting and the woman's true beauty
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>>64919552
He kinda did, by doing that they were even. He felt what he had felt. Killing him was revenge/the mission however.

It was very Shakespearean
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>>64919678
She remembers she's married to John Krasinski.
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>>64916940

Am I wrong or edgy if I think it would have been a better movie if the drug lord had pushed his shit in, shot him in the head, then carried on with business as usual?
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Sicario was the most pragmatic character, along with smug CIA. They saw the world and the war on drugs for what it really is. Blunt was the representation of the naive everyman, a dogooder in a world where dogooding doesn't mean, or do, anything.

The Jefe killed his family by being the man he was, and by having countless people and families killed. To me, Toro isn't so much a character as he is a manifestation of death itself, an amoral killing machine. He never misses thanks to his superhuman shooting skills, and remains completely blank despite his actions. Also fearless.

By doing what they were doing, Sicario and CIA were actually working to return stability to Mexico. So I'd argue that, despite their amoral methods, they were the true dogooders in the movie. Blunt was just in the way.
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>>64919794
they're guilty by association. while they ate dinner the husband had families killed over illegal drugs.

the wife knew the potential consequences.

shame for the kids though, being branded death so early in life. it's a shame they couldn't live, but then again who does?
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>>64919729
That sounds all well and good, right up until you start deciding when democracy should or should not apply, then it gets tricky.

It's true though, sometimes "activist" elements have to get involved to get the ball rolling. But the repercussions are that oftentimes by forcing something prematurely, you're setting yourself up for an inevitable backlash that wouldn't have happened had society made a conscious choice as a whole to move forward.
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>>64919204
don't compliment yourself you reactionary cunt

kate represented American naivety. "WE DA GOOD GUYS AND DEY DA BAD GUYS!" mentality. And that mentality plagues the republican party as much as the democrat party
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>>64917393
She looked beautiful in this scene. This movie is proof women can take charge.
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All cool, but I still don't know one thing: Who was Sicario?
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>>64919915
>he doesnt believe in true objective morality and law
every time

you're right just let everything go to shit theres no good and bad only people, derp
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>>64919552
Was it rude? They got a quick painless death. He on the otherhand deserved to watch them go before getting got himself.
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>>64916940
No, it means you are human.
>>64916996
>"innocent children"
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Am I wrong for thinking the best scene was Matt's flip flops in the conference room?
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>>64919886
>enabling drug trade is somehow being the "good" guys

That's the moment I sided with Blunt.
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>>64919925
>This movie is proof women can take charge.

not only that, but do it in a way thats not really obnoxious.
its not
>i am woman hear me roar
but more like
>badass chick doing shit most men wouldnt sign up for, and still is a beautiful woman who sticks to her gut
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>>64919890
You're making a lot of assumptions about the wife. Even if she did know (I doubt she had more than suspicions), what was she going to do about it? Risk the lives of herself and her children by going up against her sole provider who commands an army of killers and traffickers?
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Why are amerifats talking about morals and stuff when the entire reason the cartels exist is 100% their fault? You personally fund these butcher with your drug habit then try to act like the 'good guy'? Fuck off.
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>>64919552
Hey at least he spared the maid.
the cartel probably killed her afterwards though
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>>64919325
>>64919424
Are there any women operators in real life?
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>>64919552
>in front of him like that
THAT WAS LITERALLY THE WHOLE POINT, NIGGA

MUCH MORE SO THAN THEM ACTUALLY DYING

>>64919794
>because no one wants to take that necessary step of ending the cycle.
AKA PUSSYING OUT, COMES NATURAL TO LIBKUCKS

THIS WAS THE MAN WHO DIRECTLY CAUSED HIS DAUGHTER TO BE THROWN INTO A VAT OF ACID

YOUR FAGGOT ASS WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING OF COURSE, END THE CYCLE ABLOO ABLOO

CARTEL PUT HIS OWN FAMILY IN DANGER BY DOING THE SHIT HE DOES, HE IS RESPONSIBLE WHEN SIMILAR TACTICS ARE USED AGAINST HIM AND HIS

>>64919967
HE'S CIA
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>>64919980
Until you can tell 20% of the American population to stop smokin' and snorin' that shit, control is the best we can hope for.
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>>64919602
Iran Contra, and all our affairs in central America would disagree. Everyone seems to turn an eye of what goes on in our backyard

I still firmly stand with the CIA and America.
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Time to Meet God might be one of the best acted scenes in the past few years.

The way the wife grips on to the back of her chair knowing what's probably going to happen.

The boys sitting in silence until their father tells them to keep eating. And what do they do? Start cutting off tiny shreds of the meat on their plate, something I think anyone who has been at an awkward dinner has done before, praying that the situation they're plays out for the better.

God damn that was a good scene.

Too bad it was ruined by the typical "where do you think we learned it from" cliche. FUCK
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>>64919928
But there isn't, genius. Even if it goes to shit. Nothing inherent.

>>64919961
Barely. From their death to his, just some 30 seconds. Villeneuve didn't have the balls to show some really painful vendetta.
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>>64919967
no, that was one of the few moments of personality the movie allowed itself.
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>>64919980
It's impossible to stop the drug trade, though. The only other realistic option is to have some measure of control over it. The war on drugs is probably one of the mitigating factors that led to the Mexican cartels in the first place, so the longer you fight it, the worse things will get.

Better to kill everyone involved and return it to the Colombians.
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>>64916996
The children were killed by their own father when he decided to go into that business.
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> hurr shes so hot when shes getting choked

Guys, thats someones mother. She is literally someones mom and you're saying its hot that she is getting physically abused on film?

it makes it even hotter when you think about it imo
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>>64919886
Then you've missed the point entirely.

Blunt and people like her are the reason CIA wasn't as bad as the drug lords.

Because CIA's ultimate goal when it came down to it was preserving the American way of life.

And as much as you might hate it, the American way of life includes the rule of law and due process.
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Reddit the movie
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>>64920076
Fuck wrong quote. It was for >>64919947
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>>64920105
why is there always some self righteous guy who says this

i know for a fact my dad and my mom fooled around and did rough stuff occasionally
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>>64920045
>I still firmly stand with the CIA and America.

That's a contradiction.
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>>64919642
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmU6LH_Iq-Y
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>>64919886

I'm just wondering if you recognize the contradiction between calling alejandro "pragmatic" and then in the next paragraph "superhuman".

The CIA approach would certainly be pragmatic if the CIA happened to have an army of flawlessly superhuman killers,and a monopoly on such killers.

It doesn't, so instead you simply have rival gangs of violent people killing each other, which is why the drug war is as ugly and brutal as it is in spite of decades of "pragmatic solutions".
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>>64920094
*tips fedora*
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>>64920093
With that attitude it will never stop.

I'm sure if they went all in with the help of Mexico it could be done.
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>>64920177
Watch out for the State Police. They're not always the good guys.
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>>64919947
>true objective morality
There is no such thing.
Law is a different story. It actually exists.

I never said let everything go to shit. I'm not a nihilist . I'm just saying that being realistic is the best way to go instead of deluding yourself that this is some kind of applepie cowboy vs robbers story. Shit like alcohol and drug prohibition is fucking unnecessary anyways
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>>64917025
>dont kill them
>they grow up to fill his shoes
unless you take them to america and plant them in middle class homes killing them is the second best option
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>>64920161
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>>64919998
Yes because Americans are the only people in the world who use drugs. And its the entire nations fault because a minority percentage uses drugs, meaning the majority can't have any morals about it.
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>>64920175
*sucks dick*
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>>64917523
best side character of the year, for sure
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>>64919928
Sicario was the girl. She makes a turn to the dark side in the movie and the title represents her understanding of it.

Sic + ar + io( in italian because of her heritage)
Sick are io = I'm sick
It's very deep, so it's ok to not get it the first time
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>>64917523
how does one become so smug?
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>>64920252
"Killing children" and "best option" should never be in the same sentence.
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>>64917294
>mfw just read his back to back BLOWN THE FUCK OUT of 13 Hours and The Big Short
fucking love the dude, but like 40% of the time I don't agree with him
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If he had let the children live and the just killed the father they would have developed into cartel monsters themselves, and the cycle of revenge and violence would go on forever. Why do you think the last bit of the movie is the kid with the dead dad?
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>>64920110
I guess I interpreted it differently. I'm fairly amoral and have a decently strong distaste for both sides of the argument in the movie.

I tipped so you don't need to tip for me.
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How does one become like Sicario?
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>>64920161
Sounds like she's losing her accent
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>>64920265
>a minority percentage uses drugs, meaning the majority can't have any morals about it.

If the 'majority' really wants to get 'moral' about it then they need to stop preaching and actually do something to stop the 'minority' from using drugs and funding these murderers.

And yes, the US does constitute the vast majority of profit from drug sales.

It is 100% your fault, there is no way around it.
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>>64920252
>people will stay stuff like this but will still be against abortion for some reason
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>>64920028
>IM TWELVE YEARS OLD LOLOLOLOL

>ALL CAPS PENGUIN OF DOOOOOOOM XD
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>>64920317
>MUH CHILDREN
>THEY ALWAYS INNOCENT AND PURE

Fuck children
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>>64920265
are you kidding?
the majority non drug users who fuel and support the drug war are what creates cartels, not the users themselves you dimwit
also every white piece of garbage who voted for Obama post Fast and Furious
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>>64916996
>genetics isnt a thing

top ses
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>>64916940
No. Because I sided with him too 100%
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>>64920366
are you serious? completely different scenario
it's not deciding that life is worth living only if its QOL is above a certain threshold
it's in his best interest to kill the kids because they could grow up to exact revenge upon him

you retarded nigger
>his life will probably suck, it's now ethical to kill him
literally retarded niggers
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>>64920414
>/tv/ user interprets science
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>>64917426
What is a spook?
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>>64920363
>What is the war on drugs

Nigga what the hell are you going on about

>>64920400
>non users who fuel and support the drug war

Fuel and support it how? They're not the ones buying and using the stuff. And the dealers and distributors even if they are nonusers still do not constitute anything near a majority
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>>64920334
>If he had let the children live and the just killed the father they would have developed into cartel monsters themselves, and the cycle of revenge and violence would go on forever

You don't know that. How often do you see people pursuing their parents' line of work? I only see it among the working class. Otherwise it's fairly rare.

And that's without having a traumatic memory of your father's work literally being the death of him.
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>>64920489
Federal Agent
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>>64920487

Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
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>>64920148
Lol alright alright I stand with the CIA
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>>64919519
Are you autistic Anon?
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>>64920492
everyone who doesnt actively support the decriminalization of drugs and votes for senators/presidents who will let it continue are the reason the drug war and cartels exist
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>>64920394
>Fuck children

I bet you'd like to you pedo fuck.
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>>64920528
No, a Spook is a spy. Generally someone working for the CIA or NSA. Federal agents are called G-Men.
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>>64920522
You should watch El Infierno on Netflix. It shows how that kind of thing keeps happening in Mexico.
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>>64920166
Superhuman *shooting skills*, not superman. And to me seemed more like a morally gray representation of death itself. I'm talking about the context of the film, not real life.

In the film universe, it seems like the CIA was well on its way to returning control of the trade to the Colombians.
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>>64919552
>tripfag is retarded

wololol
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>>64920577
>legalizing degeneracy

Reddit pls go
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>>64917667

Man that scene made me cum buckets. Women showing sheer is so fucking hot. Makes me super hard.
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>>64920475
>he will probably become a le cartel king so it's now ethical to kill him

what's the difference between that and aboritng a fetus that will PROBABLY become a hoodlum anyways?
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>>64917025
His wife knew about his atrocities and that he cut off DelToro's wife's head and killed his daughter in acid. She was the wife of a fucking DRUGLORD. She knew EXACTLY what her husband was doing all those years to innocent people and his enemies and yet she was perfectly fine with it, living their luxury life, eating fancy dinner in million dollar mansions at the cost and misery of others.
His two bastard sons are the spouse of a devil and are predestined to become as shit human beings as their father was and have no right to have a future. He killed his shitass family merciful and quick.
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>>64920489
HE WAS THERE BUT HE WAS NOT THERE, LIKE A GHOST

2SPOOPT

>>64920522
>And that's without having a traumatic memory of your father's work literally being the death of him.
THERE'S AN EASY WAY TO SOLVE THAT :^)
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>>64920631
>le degeneracy
>le reddit
/po/, you're drunk
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>>64917025
Hey Reddit, can always spot you by how sanctimonious you are

>implying the children wouldn't have went into the cartel business
>implying they wouldnt try to get revenge if he let them live
>implying the wife wasn't aware of her husbands business but chose to ignore it
>implying the wife wasn't crying because she knew her husbands bullshit finally caught up with him

They all deserved it
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>>64920631
>war on degeneracy causes more and dangerous degeneracy as well as thousands upon thousands of deaths and costs millions and millions of dollars to support
>>64920669
>so it's now ethical to kill him
no, so it's in Del Toros best interest to kill them
lrn2ethics
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Were the gangbangers in the traffic jam and the so called 'attempt' meant to kill the prisoner or rescue him?
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>>64920634

which do you find more arousing

a woman showing fear

or,

a woman who desperately wants your cock every way she can get it?
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>>64918474
>>64918542
The reason why they bring in the CIA is because the cartels are getting out of hand. The CIA knows that they cant stop the cartels, they dont want to, people will still find a way to get drugs and until the populace stops buying that shit they need to control what the cartels do. They dont want people like El Chapo dead, because then a new one will just fill his shoes. They want him on a leash so they dont go and fill a house with 42 bodies and rig it to explode.
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>>64917025
Both the kids and his wife knew what business he was in. He even speaks about it in front of them when Sicario is having dinner with them.

His wife was just as guilty, and his kids would eventually have been just as guilty. It was a family business.
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>>64918070
Also, the prisoner transfer was in El Paso/Ciudad de Juarez (Texas border). The tunnel and penultimate scenes were at the tunnel in Arizona.
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>>64920678
>>64920697
>>64920778
You don't know that, you're just spouting hypothetical shit. And even if they knew, so what? You're just a bunch of retards trigger-happy to apply labels of GOOD and BAD. Pathetic simplistic christian morals.
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>>64916940
>100% sided
Probably.

70% would be cool, though.
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>>64917667
fight fire with fire. you are a libshit dogooder pussy with no real answers and no solutions to problems that need to be resolved.
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>>64920727
The gang bangers were a distraction for the crooked cop who was gonna sneak up and kill the prisoner but he mistakenly thought emily blunt was the prisoner, she saw him coming and killed him
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>>64918942
It deserved best picture way more than the Martian.
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>>64920727
It looks like they were just there to shoot up the black trucks and hope they get lucky.

It was a last ditch effort to get the drop on the convoy because it crossed the border.

They didn't have nearly enough men (let alone capable men) to mount anything remotely resembling a rescue.
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>>64920853
>Christian morals
Kek

No argument: The post
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>>64920889
But, actually, none of them deserved it at all.
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>>64920872
At least you stopped using the capslock.

Good for you. Gold star, buddy.
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>>64920853
You're the one trying to apply morals to it. "oh god no, not the kids!!!! someone think of the children!!"

>Pathetic simplistic christian morals.

Tip harder, nincompoop
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>>64917025
>waah people who weren't involved are dying
just part of the family business baby
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>>64920872
You belong on /b/. Posting from Lebanon.
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>>64917025
Killing the wife is reasonable.

She's no ignorant bystander. She knew what her husband did. She knew what horrors put food on her table.
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>>64920951
Just because you'll never have children yourself doesn't mean you should hate them.

I'm sure you'll marry a good woman some day and raise her sons.
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>>64921033
Yes, I'm sure he regaled her constantly with tales of his men beheading people and dunking children in vats of acid.

Always good pillow talk.
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>>64921033
Yeah but the kids have to go too or they'll benefit from undeserved wealth.
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>>64921145
Why is it undeserved wealth? He literally earned it through very hard work. That you don't like his work, don't make it undeserved.
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I honestly hated the CIA guy and his pack of soldiers who acted like fratboys with guns more than anyone else.

He reminded me of this asshole from The A-Team.
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>>64921112
IRL. they do know what's going on.
try harder.
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>>64920776

Fear 100%. Women love role play rape so you know being afraid makes them all hot and bothered. You really should try it.
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>>64920853
>Y-Y-YOU DON'T KNOW THAT!!!
Keep on living in your bubble world. Do you honestly think that no one in El Chappo's family knows or knew who he was before he was captured and that thousands of innocent people get tortured and killed in the most dehumanising and brutal ways each year (you can find some fancy vids on liveleak) in his name and people like him? Get fucking real, you ignorant shithead. They are all in it, yes even the kids.
>You're just a bunch of retards trigger-happy to apply labels of GOOD and BAD. Pathetic simplistic christian morals.
>M-M-MY MORALS ARE SUPERIOR TO YOUR MORALS BECAUSE I'M NOT A DIRTY CHRISTIAN THERE IS NO GOOD OR BAD THERE IS ~ WELL ANYWAY FUCK YOU DIRTY CHRISTIAN!!!
Consider my hat tipped.
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>>64921112
She has an imagination.

She watches the news.
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>>64920949
CANT IMAGINE MORE THAN ONE PERSON IS CALLING OUT LIBKUCKS FOR BEING LIBKUCKS?

>>64920889
THE MARTIAN DESERVED NOTHING

DOES RIDLEY HAVE 2 WEEKS TO LIVE OR WHAT, HOW THE FUCK WAS THE MARTIAN WORTHY OF BEST PICTURE

LET ALONE MATT DAMON'S SHIT ACTING FOR BEST ACTOR

OSCARS ARE OFFICIALLY A JOKE
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>>64921227
>IRL

It's a movie, Donald.

Not even based on actual events.
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was Del Toro working as CIA or was he hired by them? Youd think he sided with CIA until he got his revenge and then fuck off without care, but then he came to extort the signature
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>>64921238
I would want a chick to be more intimidated/hot and bothered for sex rather than the threat of violence against her

I know chicks like the rapey rough stuff, but pure motivated hornyness seems hotter imo
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>>64921266
Why are you using capslock again?

I'm revoking your gold star.
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>>64917025
>murder thousands of people and run a drug empire
>hmm could this endanger my own family? nah they will be fine :^)

smug beaner got his own family killed
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>>64921284
the narco is a very real thing you know?
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>>64921266
>le meme cinematographer and le pretty shadowy image

AND THIS KIND OF CLOWN GOES AROUND SHITTING ON THE MARTIAN THAT ISN'T NOTHING SPECIAL BUT AT LEAST GETS TO BE ENTERTAINING
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>>64921316
He clearly believed in what they were doing.

You don't become a prosecutor in a shithole like Jaurez if you don't care.

His revenge simply came first.
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>>64920951
>>64921244
Not him but, knowledge alone isn't a crime.
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>>64921064
I'm already married and we aren't having kids. It would seriously cut into our enjoying life and having fun thing we have going on.
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>>64921464
Good for you. Try not change your minds in 5 or 10 years.
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Enemy > Prisoners = Sicario
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>>64921329
>IMPLYING I EVER STOPPED

>>64921372
THE CONVOY WAS THE MOST INTENSE SEQUENCE IN WIDE RELEASE CINÉMA OF 2015, BLACKHATSHITTER

AND LITERALLY EVERY PERFORMANCE IN SICARIO WAS BETTER THAN MATT DAMON VLOGGING STRAIGHT TO THE AUDIENCE LIKE A RETARD

HOW DOES THIS ANTI-ACTING NON-PERFORMANCE GET A BEST ACTOR NOMINATION, THE MARTIAN WHAT A JOKE
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>>64921464
Prepping the bull is a joy.
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>>64921464
spoke like a true cuck
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>>64921504
>>64921616
I donated some cum and got my tubes tied. If she ever wants kids she'll have to leave me. She's more immature than I am though so I can't imagine she'll ever change her mind.

I would totally let her cuck me with a bull though.
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>>64921464
we've got a future "my wife's son" poster over here!
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>>64921691
>>64921719

see

>>64921684
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>All these basement dwelling tards saying the CIA did the right thing when the ending of the movie implied that their actions did nothing to stop cartel violence.
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Real ops would NEVER open fire from this angle. Their colleagues are IN THE LINE of fire.
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>>64921822
It's not really about stopping cartel violence though. It's about regaining control of the trade. Violence was always still going to exist in it.

I'll have you know my computer is upstairs.
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>>64920094
Stupid comment is stupid.
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>>64916940
Everyone is wrong in the movie. You shouldn't side with anyone.
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>>64921822
It's the /pol/ and /r9k/ crowd, plus some dizzy /k/ imbeciles. Hits all the checkboxes what they perceive the movie is saying.
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>>64921464
The most subtle my wife's son post

10/10
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>>64921822
see
>>64921883
They've been doing it since the 60's, at least in my country (Colombia). On the one hand you've got shit like usaid and the DEA enforcing economic and military domination, and on the other hand you've got the spooks, who keep the drug train flowing with the help of local crime organizations. It's just the US way of keeping wetbacks in line and getting some profit on the side
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>>64921822
THE EVENTS OF THE MOVIE WERE JUST PHASE 1 OF CIA'S MASTER PLAN

THEIR PLAN INVOLVES A SHITLOAD MORE VIOLENCE TO CONSOLIDATE THE CARTELS UNDER MEDELLIN
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>>64921940
what's going on here?
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>>64922127
Agent Macer, I'm CIA!
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>>64922194
Those are big flip flops
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>>64922350
We're crashing this cartel... WITH NO LAWYERS
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>>64922477
They work for the prosecutor... the hitman.
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