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Star Wars is about Darth Vader. It is about his family. There
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Star Wars is about Darth Vader. It is about his family.

There is no point to Episodes 7-9. The story is finished.
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>>64750210
there is no point to you.
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>>64750210
>he's not excited for Star Wars: The Next Generation
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>>64750210
such a sick sculpt
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>>64750210
>It is about his family.

Gee I wonder who Kylo 'Ben' Ren and Rey are
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>>64750210
>Star Wars is about Darth Vader. It is about his family.

When Lucas made the first movie Darth Vader was just a goon who worked for the Empire. It was only decided he was Luke's father when they made Empire. So you're wrong.
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>>64750210
No it isn't faggot.

You have this entire fucking galaxy of planets and species and characters and you choose to just focus on the one family of the cool looking guy
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>>64750277
>77
Star Wars was released in 1977
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>>64750322
>Vader was the captain Phasma of New Hope
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Its the fall, rise and legacy of Annakin
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>>64750322
>just a goon
>killed the main characters father
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>>64750210
Nah.

The original Star Wars wasn't about Darth Vader.

It wasn't until Empire that the story became the Darth Vader story, and that's only because the character caught on so well.

In Star Wars 77, he's just Tarkin's attack dog.
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>>64750525
You know what I mean. He's basically Tarkin's bitch.
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>>64750210
Uhhh his son and daughter are both still alive and so are his grandkids

There's still stuff to tell about the Skywalkers
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>>64750210
>Star Wars is about Darth Vader. It is about his family.
"Star Wars" was about nostalgia and re-experiencing old adventures like the Flash Gordon serials. "Empire Strikes Back" bring the opera and drama to the franchise, and even in the OT the relevance was on Luke, not Vader.

>There is no point to Episodes 7-9.
Agree, but for different reasons.

>The story is finished.
Only when a proper substitute of "Return of the Jedi" is made and the prequels and TFA are nuked from orbit.
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Star wars is about Luke. No-one could watch IV-V-VI and see, wow, it's the tale of Anakin Skywalker
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>>64750210
>Star Wars is about Darth Vader. It is about his family.

>implying Luke isn't his son
>implying Rey isn't his granddaughter

You're retarded.

Rey is literally born of the force-jerked load that Vader shot on Sheev's robe shortly before he attempted to kill him.
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The point is that Disney needs more money. You think they bought Star Wars becasue they really wanted to continue the story?
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>>64751221
exactly. original trilogy was about Luke, prequels were about Anakin, and its obvious the new trilogy will be about Rey. Get with the program, OP.
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>>64750277
The painted on glow is fucking terrible.
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>>64750210
Tell that to Ganja Club.
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>>64750742
>There's still stuff to tell about the Skywalkers
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>>64750210

We Fast and Furious now.
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>>64750210
Tell that to Kanjiklub
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>>64750210
yet your thread begins? poetry
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>>64750210
i'm not really a sw fan, but damn is that toy badass
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>>64750210
>his suit itched incessantly
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>>64750210
It was, for a little while. Before that it was about Luke Skywalker. Now it's about racemixing.
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>>64750210
true
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>>64750260
I would prefer a lot more something original, like star wars was. People forget that star wars was awesome because it created a whole culture. There hasn't been a movie that has even came close to doing this except Alien. As Lucas said, Hollywood doesn't look for original ideas, they look for shit that prints money. Anyone who thinks Disney cares about star wars and preserving it for any other reason than money is a fucking retard.
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>>64750210
That is some really over the top Object Source Lighting.

Real shame, because the flesh tones are really subtle and well done.
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>>64750210
YES, They should have named the new Star Wars with something like: Star Wars Descendents: episode 1
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>>64753296
or Star Wars: Disney Fiction episode 1
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>>64750322
>The finished product doesn't matter, what matters are the early scripts
Lucas himself said that Star Wars is the tragic story of Anakin Skywalker. Sorry newfriend, but you are dead wrong.
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>>64753397
>What is retconning
>What is revisionism
>What is people losing their minds
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>>64753397
>Implying Lucas wasn't just making shit up as he went along and came up with the idea that it was Darth Vader's story after he finished ROTJ.

Lucas made Star Wars as an homage to old adventure serials. It was coneived of as a stand alone film. He cobbled the story of episodes V and VI out of story ideas that were left on the cutting room floor from Episode IV. It was only the absurd amount of money that Episode IV pulled in that made him even want to do a sequel at all.
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The only canon Star Wars movies are A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back. Live with it.
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>>64753397
Darth Vader wasn't the focus of the films until George made the prequels. He made Darth vader the most important character of the saga because he was the most important character in the marketing. He became space jesus because he sold the most toys and George confused his popularity with his original role in the story
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>>64753723
This anon knows his/her shit
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>>64753540
>He cobbled the story of episodes V and VI out of story ideas that were left on the cutting room floor from Episode IV.
What matters is the story, the rough script of lucas was the whole 3 movies. Lucas never said that he took the best part of it's 3 acts and put them in the first movie. He didn't think that he would be able to show all 3 acts and he took the death star from the ending and put it in the first movie and also he killed obi-wan which in the original story wasn't intended. That doesn't mean that the parts that weren't included in the first movie they were shit.
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>>64752885
paint job is meh, sculpt is 10/10
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>>64753858
>the rough script of lucas was the whole 3 movie

Why do people believe this? Lucas is blatantly lying about that, and it's not hard to find the original scripts (or to read "The Secret History of Star Wars") and figure that out. Lucas went through a lot of drafts, but none of them were anything like all of the OT. The one before the shooting script (which was still being revised going into production) had some hints of The Phantom Menace, but it was very little like even the "finished version of ANH.

Lucas was making it up as he went along, and there's ample proof of that.
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>>64750210
>Star Wars is about Darth Vader.
Fuck off prequel babby the OT is about Luke.

>It is about his family.
Kylo Ren is the direct result of Vader's legacy in more ways than one.
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>>64750210
>It is about his family.
So Luke, Leia, Kylo Ren, and Rey
All still main characters in Episodes 7-9
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>>64750322
>>64750558
This card was released in 1977 (read the copyright). Why would the Dark Lord of the Sith be another one of Tarkin's goons?

Tarkin was just the captain of the Death Star. Similar to the captain of a ship, he is allowed to give orders to anyone that comes into his ship. Unless of coarse the emperor/president were to come onto his ship.
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>>64754086
Hey faggot I posted that to show how long the word Sith has been a part of Star Wars, not so you could misinterpret a title as meaning the trilogy is about him.

Those anons are over simplifying but you're going off the deep end.
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>>64754086
>Why would the Dark Lord of the Sith be another one of Tarkin's goons?

Because "Dark Lord of the Sith" was a meaningless title that just made him sound cooler. The OT never mentions sith, and the concept itself wasn't even defined until twenty years after that card came out.
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>>64754181
Well the copyright is from 77...
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>>64754086
In the pre-1977 days, Vader's role changed from being a mere general without mask or life support suit, to a space samurai and leader of a clan (the Sith), to the final pre-ESB character we got in "Star Wars". MANY early ideas were discarded or reworked as the years passed. For example, at some point Vader had a castle in the middle of a volcanic wasteland, and the final showdown in RotJ would have happened in a throne room filled with lava instead of being in the Death Star.

That image is just, well, a product of some ideas that were finally unused for the first movies. Even the Emperor wasn't a Force user up until ESB.

I suspect the "Knights of Ren" idea for TFA is based on this early concept for Vader.
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>>64754271
Nice ellipses. What are you trying to tell me? I'm the one that posted it in another thread to show that Sith has been around since 1977 and isn't necessarily a prequel reference so this post tells me nothing I don't already know.

You're right to disagree with them and the idea that Vader was just some mook, but in the context of the OP the point doesn't mean anything. The OT is about Luke and this title doesn't change that.
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>>64754337
To add to this, when Timothy Zahn was writing The Thrawn Trilogy, he originally intended to name the noghri alien race the sith. The reason for this is that the fanbase had been confused as to what that term meant, so Zahn decided to explain it. His original idea was that Vader had saved their planet from destruction, and in gratitude, the species named him their lord. His helmet was originally intended to look like their faces. Lucas told him to scrap the idea, but it's pretty telling that in the early 90s, an author felt the need to come up with such an elaborate explanation that was nothing like the "true" meaning of the word.
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>>64750525
He was "just Tarkin's goon" but Tarkin in the original script was the de facto most powerful person in the Empire (since the Emperor was originally a weak, old figurehead).
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>>64753858

Have you ever heard of Splinter of the Mind's Eye? It was a book that came out in the late 70s and was the only EU book for a long time. It was written as the original sequel to Star Wars, and most of it is nothing like the rest of the series.
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>>64753218
>> every 4chan dweller complains about race mixing like it's new to Star Wars
>> Literally ignores Lando hitting on Leia 24/7 in Empire Strikes Back
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>>64750210
The Force Awakens focuses on Vader's family (Luke, Ben Solo and possibly Rey), and also deals with Vader's legacy. Kylo Ren heavily bases himself off Vader's image. Vader is still very much part of the story.
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>>64754872
And then gets cuckies by Han
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>>64750385

>tfw Captain Phasma is Rey's mother
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>>64754924
The force awakens focuses on making money and pushing a leftist agenda all the while destroying the star wars universe
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>>64754438
My point is, while the originals may not have been Vader's story, he was not just another one of Tarkin's bitch boys. The two men just had a mutual respect.
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>>64754924
>not Ben Organa-Solo
It's 34 ABY, I mean come on!
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>>64750210
Only a dickhead deals in absolutes.
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>>64750210
stay original bro.
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>>64753397
>the creator of a work of art is the sole person who can say what it's about and not the community that revolves around it
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>>64753921
should of just made the base light up to give that effect instead
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>>64753397
Too bad the pt wasn't tragic at all, and Vader's story was perfectly explained and wrapped up with just the ot.
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>>64750210
cry more lucas baby
yousa cryin-sa, yousa bombad retarda
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>>64756484
>I created a wheel
>People say it's a banana
>Automatically makes it a banana
fuck off back to watching OPM faggot.
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>>64750210
But Rey is the reincarnation of Anakin. So Episodes 7-9 are still about Darth Vader.
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