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IRONIC
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That face/delivery are perfection. One of the best moments in the prequels. Hell, the whole series.
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>>64719525
POWA!!!! UNLIMITED POWA!!!!!!
What did he mean by this?


Also why did his emperor make up look so different/shitty compared to RotJ
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>>64719806
Completely agree. That scene alone is better than all of TFA.

ROTS is painted in broad brush strokes. It is played out a mammoth stage by actors with megaphones. It is big and bold. It is outrageously epic geographically and emotionally. The symbolism is grand too and because it is in keeping with the story's sweep it does not unbalance the story.

On the scene, at the Opera House, the Mon Calamari put on a show where sperm-like ribbons float in and out of a massive watery egg. The discussion between Sheev and Anakin about the creation of life cements the visual message.

>"Ironic isn't it? ...He could save others but not himself" - Sheev
>"He saved others, let him save himself if he is the Christ of God, the Chosen One" - Priest Luke 23:35

George Lucas uses the language of Christian heritage, words already resonant with meaning, as stepping stones to a greater understanding. In this way he subtly illuminates for us the roles, the motivations and the size of what is at stake.

JJ Abrams would NEVER be able to pull off a scene as poignant and visually-stunning as this one.
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Ian McDairmid's great in all the Star Wars movies. I find myself grinning every time he's on screen. Yoda's the same in the OT, but he's a little lacking in the prequels.
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You know Anakin, the Sith have an ancient technique to stop pregnant women from dying during child birth.
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>>64719806
>>64720039

Scene's too slow for JJ's Modern audience
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>>64720250
Atleast we see him taking out his little lasersword of his and going to town.
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>>64720387

This.

In JJ's version there would be dutch shots of the dialogue with average length of 1 second then some random terrorist attack would happen at the opera and Sheev would have to continue the story to Anakin while they are both running through a collapsing hallway with lights strobing.
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>>64720275
Can one learn this technique?
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>>64719808

He spent the next ~30 years using Clarisil.
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>>64719525
Nest scene from the prequels.
Music, atmosphere, Sheev...
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>>64720433

underrated post
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IT'S LIKE RAAAAIIIIIN
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>>64719525
>Watching Millennials try and edify the prequels when they spent years nodding in unison at how much they "suck", while disparaging the latest space-cowboy action flick marketed towards 13 year olds.

>The Circle of Life
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Looking back, this is probably the single best scene in the whole prequel trilogy. McDiarmid is just so wonderful as Palpatine, and the script is actually poignant and full of metaphor and tension in a movie where everything else is a steaming shitpile.

https://youtu.be/tckqZzI4eb0

(Compare the music with Snoke's Theme from TFA)
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>>64720736
>>64720433
Yoda was one of the worst parts of the prequels for me.
And his whole I need a cane to walk but let me jump around like a mad man was retarded.
He should have been like Sheev in VI, and to use the force in some godly way but not moving around like a CG Muppet caught in a washing machine. If Sheev was doing that shit in VI it really would have made it was worse movie.
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>>64719525
why was he such a smug cunt?
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>>64720877

That's because the whole franchise keeps getting shittier and shittier
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>>64721032

That lightsaber duel perfectly captures what is wrong with the prequels. Even leaving aside how fucking retarded it looked, we should never see Yoda take out a lightsaber. His character should be above that sort of thing. At least it was handled marginally better with Sheev because seconds after the reveal, he just mows down Jedi Council members like butter with simple thrusts. He does that corkscrew jump but at least it doesn't look as monumentally stupid as Yoda taking out his 2 foot long lightsaber. God I hate the prequels
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>>64721311
Good job parroting RLM
You are still right
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>>64720877
I havent changed my opinion. But I guess it takes a truely shitty uninspired movie to show how the prequels really were. We were comparing them to the OT like comparing 6, who tries to be ambitious but usually fails, to a super model, then JewJew dropped off his fat retarded SJW step daughter, and now the 6 which cant compare to a model, and still isnt good, is much better than what we have now.
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>>64721418

Doesn't make it any less true
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RotS is a masterpiece to be honest yall
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>>64721120

treasonous dogmatic jedi get >>>/OUT/
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>>64720622
Not from a jedi
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>>64721638
Wow, even his dick can corkscrew.
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Why is sheev so fucking cool? He is the best part of the prequels.
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notte fruhm uh cheddi
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>>64722258
Because hes a villain that wins at the end.
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>>64721781
GARAAGAGAGAGAGAHAHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>64722258

Because we understand his motivation, he's just evil and loves it
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>>64722258
why do you guys keep callin him sheev, senpai
is it a meem or somethin?
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>>64722816
he wasn't evil. he was trying to prepare the galaxy for invasion from inter-galactic tattooed, masochistic, force invisible, deformed, hostile aliums. he was the good (best) guy all along.
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>>64723120

It's his name
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>>64723120
Don't people call you by your name?
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>>64719808
>POWA!!!! UNLIMITED POWA!!!!!!
He's talking about the PS3's Cell processor.
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>>64722816
We don't call anakin "Skywalker" nor do we refer to obi wan as "kenobi" so we don't call sheev "palpatine"
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>>64719525
>Four evil head turns in one scene

was Lucas even trying at this point?
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>>64723539
nevermind...
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>>64723153
Wot
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>>64723613
That's the EU for you
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>>64723613
sheev was not the hero we deserved but the hero we needed
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young sheev
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>>64723970
>RotJ sheev looks older than the newer prequels
The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural
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>>64723881
Space fuckers using space snakes as spears against laser pistols ... this is why people hate the EU
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>>64723970
Looks like Frank Burns from MASH
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>>64723970
L O N D O N
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>>64719808
wth!? I remember it being "long live the sith" did they change it for the dvd's?
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>>64724172
yea, it wasn't the best. they tried to do something different, and super powerful monsters from outside the galaxy as well as organic technology were all the rage at that time. starwars fans certainly gobbled it up though.
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>>64721638
that fucking face
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>>64724439
hell I won't lie, I ate that Yuzhan Vong shit when it came out, but now in The Current Year+1 It's one of my most hated parts of the New Republic universe, atleast it helped with the creation of Darth Caedus and Caedus is one of my favorite parts of the EU
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>>64720039
Except it's not visually stunning at all, and the writing isn't anything special. McDiarmid's acting and the fact that it's the only scene in the prequels with interesting world-building is what sells it.
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>>64721485
It's a comedic masterpiece on par with The Room, yes
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>>64720877
I seriously never understood how people could discount ROTS and call it the same kind of shit as TPM and AOTC.
There is a clear line between ROTS and TPM/AOTC. ROTS works better as a real movie than ANH and TESB.
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>>64723970
Art Garfunkel?
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>>64724953
RotS is better structured than the other prequels, but it still looks like shit, has awful writing and mostly shit acting. It's much more entertaining than the other two though, mostly because it's much better structured and has funnier unintentional comedy scenes. Most memorable meme worthy scenes are from RotS.
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>>64723120
His official canon first name as of last summer.
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>>64725623

Is this from "Tarkin?"
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>>64725692
Yes, the instance where it was said.
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>>64725724

Thanks, plan to read this after I'm done with Lost Stars
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>>64725623

I always thought his name was Thondruss Plause.
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>>64725933
Kek
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>>64720039

Dun dun dun

The prequels are akin to 2001 to me in regards to how you take it.
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>>64721311
What reason do they give for Yoda not having a lightsaber? There's no logical reason he shouldn't. In the OT, they say the lightsaber is the weapon of a Jedi, and Yoda is referred to as a Jedi (a Jedi master, in particular). Their vision of what Star Wars ought to be was ruined by what its legitimate creator made it. And they're just mad about that.
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>>64728459
The last 4 episodes of The Clone Wars are supposed to bridge the monk Yoda with the battlefield general Yoda but I seriously have no idea what that shit was about.
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>>64727723
You may be joking around, but there's actually people who hold this opinion. There are few people as autistic as prequelfags
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>>64728459
He isn't physically fit to use a lightsaber. The force goes beyond the physical. That was the point of his character
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>>64719525
Is Sheev the only returning actor from the OT? I mean you have the droid dudes but they don't really count. I think that's one of the reasons he's so great.
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>>64729131

>joking

Nope

You need to analyze it in bits and pieces as there's far too much to it; the scope across emotional, social and technological frames are far too much to see it as a simple piece of entertainment

When you've broken it down, you can start to put it together as an epic and then view it as entertainment
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>>64729545
him, the droids like you mentioned, Chewie, and Yoda's VA if you want to count him.
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>>64720563

As much as I hate the prequels this is too true of JJ. He can't sit still in a fucking scene long enough to even get basic expository dialog out before a fucking 'splosion happens.

It was so evident with Force Awakens. The whole movie felt like a horse with a bridle in it's mouth and being pulled back so fucking much.

I'm really looking forward to VIII just to see what a different lead director can do.
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>>64729247

and the point of the prequels is to show that the jedi order was stagnant and had to go

how can you be so stupid to miss that

Yoda we saw in the OT is a reformed Yoda that relearned about the force from Jinn's spirit

that's why the jedi of the of the prequels are fundamentally different from the jedi in the OT

as if Jinn talking to the council in Ep1 didn't clue you in as to how wrong they are
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>>64721311
i wouldve liked the "its treason then" scene to have palpatine just sit there and lightning the fuck out of the masters while laughing. the others die and mace resists and forces him to use one of the dead jedis lightsabers to defend himself.
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>>64731198
this
people always say the jedi were weird in the prequels but thats the point. we see two real jedi in the OT and theyre both burnouts of a forgotten era. the prequels show exactly why the jedi fell, they were the fucking asshole know it alls who thought they knew everything.

the ROTS novel really hits it home. when yoda fights sheev he realizes that the sith changed, they evolved and all this time the jedi were preparing for the old sith, not sheevs sith. the jedi were literally blinded by their arrogance
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>>64720039

Lol, you children. I knew once TFA comes out angry neckbeards would start jerking over the prequels.
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>>64720039

Cool pasta ahmed
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>>64723153
source?
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>>64719808
>Tree Senthen
Who was he referring to?
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Ironic isn't it? They could have the biggest hit in US history but not even beat a film about blue space cats
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>>64719525
He looks like my late grandpa in this shot.
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>>64720877
>in twenty years neckbeards will defend TFA
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>>64736654
What is your grandpa late for? He should probably buy a watch or something.
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The prequels will be remembered as true misunderstood çîñémä.
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>>64723970
Richard Feinman?
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>>64733191
Why do they do that? I loved TFA. What's with the hate parade? Aside from Daisy Ridley's character, the movie delivered. What's up with that?
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>>64736826
Yeah, delivered the same movie we already saw, only better.
People shouldnt be praised for not having an original bone in their body. JJ makes fast passed generic action flicks, he's basically Michael Bay.
Sure you wanna tune put and watch some 'splosions TFA or Transformers 10 is for you, but no one will be talking about then 15 years from now. Despite the stronk womyn or diverse cast.

No one is saying JJ made a bad action movie, but he did make a shit Star Wars movie. And we should all stop pretending thats not true.
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>>64720039
>That scene alone is better than all of TFA
sigh
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>>64737323
*nods respectfully*
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>>64737350
Wow, that's exactly the sort of visual reaction that was meant to accompany that post.

I'd say this post alone is better than the entirety of TFA.
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>>64737281
>better
No.
TFA is crap even if you don't take the lack of originality into account.
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>>64719806

>implying lucas was slow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve1889zS030
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>>64723539
I thought obi wan was a title though
>obi wan? it's been a long time since ive heard that
so he should be called kenobi informally
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>>64737555
No you dummy, he was known as Old Ben.
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>>64720039
t. George Lucas
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>>64723970
yung money sheev. steal your senate and leave
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https://youtu.be/4ESOrF_u1hg?t=2m33s

What kind of direction do you think he got for this scene?
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>>64738547
"Do it."
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>>64738547
Man, why did Kit Fisto have to go out like that? He was one of the coolest minor characters in the franchise and he gets taken out like a bitch. He lasts a few seconds longer than those other two losers but that isn't saying much.
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>>64738547
Am I the only one who thinks Sheev's fighting style is weird?
He seems like he's just randomly waving his arm around.
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>>64739084

the editing is fucked up so everything looks choppy and weird
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>>64738547
>George: I want you to act like you're the most powerful and evil person in the galaxy
>Ian: So be it.
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Who's the reviewer that everybody keeps talking about who released an hour long review of the movies??
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>>64720275
>>64720877
>>64721311
>>64721418
>>64724840
>>64725273
>>64727723
>>64729131
>>64729247
>>64730956
>>64733191
>>64733218
>>64736826
>>64737323
Hello OT purists/Lucas haters/prequel deniers/faggots!

Please do all of us a favor and see yourselves back to RedditLeltterMemedia. Your shit, sheep taste will be much better accepted over there.

Thanks again, and go fuck yourselves! :^)
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>>64740377
Only 105 posts for the word "reddit" to appear. I'm impressed.
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>>64738547
Did he never bother to make a new lightsaber?
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>>64740367

The Plinkett reviews?
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>>64719525
Ian and Ewan carried those movies
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>>64719525
Honestly the two things I don't like about this scene are Ian's delivery of the line "from dying" as if he's winking at Anakin and Anakin's out of character faith in the story about being able to stop people from dying when he's depicted as a skeptic in many other scenes across the two movies.
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>>64719806
The prequels may have been shit, but that lone scene is really damn good.
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>>64720563
>>64720387

fuck off gramps
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>>64719525
BUT NOT HIMSELF
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>>64723970
Why is the man so based?
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>>64741142
>both Scottish actors
pottery
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>>64720877
Not everyone hated the prequels, only Phantom menace was a disappointment for me because I expected something extremely amazing but got lame cis robots and gungans in a lame as fuck battle.

Clone wars helped improve things with based Christopher Lee, Fett and clones.

Revenge of the Sith is my current favorite Star wars movies, best looking clones, best jedi battles, and was extremely enjoyable. Man clone phase 2 armor was so fucking sexy, takes both the best from both phase 1 clone armor and storm trooper armor.
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>>64719806
That scene never ceases to puzzle me, on one hand McDiarmid's delivery is fantastic he always is as Sheev/spoiler] on the other him spilling the beans in such clumsy manner is utterly retarded. I guess Lucas truly stopped giving a shit about the writing with AotC.
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>>64741250
>the prequels are written like shit
At some point it got so awful, people just turned their brains off and simply started going "Sheev, Sheev".
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>>64722258
Bane?
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>>64731822
Revenge of the Sith novel is so fucking based, if the movie was made like the book it would be praised as the greatest star wars of all time
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