Do guys like this exist in real life? Would they really be able to boss around FBI agents?
>>64638873
Bump
Yes and yes.
Spooks
>>64641243
So where do these "spooks" come from?
>>64641302
africa
>>64641329
>>64639992
Why open the door?
Your gun is in your lap the window is down. If you were even a kinda smart you placed plates in the door for extra protection if you weren't it's still better to have a door between you and a gun than nothing.
>>64638873
>Do guys like this exist in real life?
Why wouldn't they?
>>64641466
armored cars are really expensive and bullets go through regular cars like nothing, staying in a stationary car is worse than staying out in the open because you can't even run away fast
>>64641496
It just seems so unbelievable that this guy bosses around an elite fbi agent.
>>64641580
Well he's CIA
>>64641580
I don't think she was elite at all, she's a woman anyway.
>>64641302
CIA agents with intelligence background and combat experience. They outrank everyone. The CIA recruits grunts from special forces. Clear and Present Danger gave a somewhat realistic depiction on how the grunts are recruited. The creepy guy in the tie in Apocalypse Now sitting in on Willard's briefing was a spook.
>>64641580
I'm pretty sure the CIA can boss around anyone on the planet
>>64641580
>elite
She was a retard
That guy was a CIA agent hired by people in high places, the nigger and woman were only there to make it seem sorta legal
>>64641580
>Elite
The whole reason they brought her along is because they need a federal agents present in order to operate outside of the CONUS. They were pulling the wool over her eyes
Yes, spooks like she said in the movie I believe.
>>64641644
Is it part of their plan?
>>64641724
>in order to operate outside of the CONUS
What?
>>64638873
Yes, that's what real spies are like. Not James Bond shit, actual on the ground intel gathering is done by local people ("assets") the agent ("handler") hires to do it since obviously a foreigner going about trying to buddy up with the targets would be suspicious as hell.
The actual shooting guns at enemies part is done by operators like that. Usually they don't even bother even pretending to be official by having another agency there, they are usually mercenaries/PMCs made up of ex-special forces of the country that's using them, so if the mission goes tits up and they get caught or kill a bunch of civies or whatever the government sending them can go oh jeez they're not our military they're from a private organization and there's no proof we hired them.
Movies make PMCs out to be entirely separate entities that go to the highest bidder and might even be an enemy of the country they're based out of but they're basically just a way for a state's intelligence agencies to kill whoever they want with plausible deniability.
Best Delta coming through
>>64641824
If I were a gay man I'd pick that one too.
>>64641807
how do you know this stuff
>>64641769
Continental United States.
>>64641769
Continental United States.
>>64641894
Having an iq over a 100.
Having access to the largest database of information in all of recorded human history.
Really being lel so randum ignorant is peasant talk for i'm too lazy to learn things and i don't want to be ridiculed for being dumb so instead i'm going to embrace this corporate backed image of X-Y-Z.
>>64641807
Delta Green movie/tv series when?
>>64641894
Not him, but I learned about this stuff from reading things like Covert Action Quarterly and "Killing Hope."
>>64641898
>>64641903
Why would CIA need the FBI to operate outside the US as this guy says? >>64641724
That doesn't make any sense.
>>64641893
and as a straight guy?
>>64641807
>real spies
Yeah no.
Real spies sit in offices, do paper work and collaborate with the ones that look at SIGINT.
What you're talking about is another part of HUMINT.
Also, unmarked means you can essentially do what you want. That's why PMCs exist in the first place, to allow agencies and governments to operate on their own soil without going against their own laws.
>>64641983
Not soon enough.
>>64639992
>finger on the trigger
AAAAAAANND DROPPPED!
>>64642129
His finger is on the trigger because he knows he's about to ice those guys. He looks away for a second to make them think that he lost interest, then when they make their move he's ready to shoot.
>>64642129
Maybe you should use your brain for once.
>>64642000
CIA is a civilian agency. It makes sense that it would need federal oversight for legal reasons
>>64641894
I'm CIA
>>64642037
It sounds like you consider all intel officers to be 'spies'.
>>64642277
Has your flight plan ever been altered?
>>64642000
>>64642222
They need federal agents attached when operating *inside* the US, not outside of it.
>>64641632
Are there any books I can read to learn about spooks and CIA grunt recruiting?
>>64642366
here you go
>>64642297
The ones that actively engage in SIGINT. Which is what the CIA, at least officially leaves to other agencies.
Operating unmarked in the field, as a fairly straight forward special forces guy doesn't make you a spy.
>>64642354
In the context of the movie they required a federal agent while INNA Mexico, but its just a movie
>>64642463
Didn't they just take her along for the ride to get her to do the tunnel thing inside the US?
>>64642463
>inna got capitalized
Does Android Lollipop/Google Keyboard assume words it doesn't recognize are acronyms? It never used to do this.
>>64642460
I guess we should just start handing out gold stars to everyone in involved in the intelligence cycle and inform them they are 'spies' now.
>>64642463
No, you just misunderstood the movie, but that's okay.
>>64642521
It may have been that as well. Brolin's character and Medellín both tell her she's just there to sign a piece of paper making the operation legal.
>>64638873
Does a fag who straps himself up in Condor gear and places his pistol mag pouches at chin height exist? Yeah, they hang out on >>>/k/.
>>64642463
I'm pretty sure the guy said something along the lines of "CIA isn't supposed to work this side of the fence/border" which would suggest American soil. Doesn't make sense otherwise unless the whole operation is completely unknown to the people that approve foreign operations.
>>64642541
>Matt tells Kate to stay out of the way as she is only there because the CIA can only work in the U.S. as being attached to a domestic agency.
Matt says it when they're planning the raid with the Delta operators in the motel room
>>64642540
It's funny that you're only reading what you want. Use your brain, I just told you the exact opposite.
>>64639992
ok so how did two cars full of sketchy looking guys get through the border with guns?
>>64642627
Why choose Delta? They are jobbers of the special forces world.
>>64642652
They were still in Mexico
>>64642429
le sarcasm man
>>64642366
http://www.smackthatdelicious.com/TFTISY/Documents%20That%20Will%20Blow%20Your%20Mind/
Check out some of this. As always, half of it is DISINFO and half of it is genuine.
>>64642653
>1 of the 4 most elite Units in the US war and death machine
>jobbers
>>64642653
Because they're the top tier of known American special forces? They're also not operating as Delta in the movie.
>>64642635
No I get it. The guys sitting on their ass in the scif are the 'real spies'. Making all those powerpoint slides is super dangerous. Might get carpal tunnel.
>>64642675
Oh I'm a moron.
>>64642680
Who are the other 3?
>>64642035
sicario duh
>>64642721
DEVGRU (SEAL Team 6), ISA, 24th STS.
These are just the common names people know the Units by. For example, Delta has been called CAG and ACE in more recent years.
Also, there is a unit within the CIA called the SAD, comprised of paramilitary officers recruited from the the units mentioned above.
>>64642761
>Also, there is a unit within the CIA called the SAD, comprised of paramilitary officers recruited from the the units mentioned above.
Isn't Brolin SAD in this movie? Meaning he was probably delta or DEVGRU in the past?
>>64642697
I don't think you know what SIGINT and evaluation of said information is, but if you want to consider every unmarked Delta operative that is sent into the field for CIA operations a spy, go right ahead.
>>64642792
It could be assumed he's in one of the SADs, but its never stated
>>64642761
Is SAD the military's way of maintaining some influence over the CIA's field operations, or the CIA poaching highest quality fighters working within the chain of command?
>>64638873
The CIA used to oversee the majority of cocaine distributed in the United States and probably started the crack epidemic.
So yes.
I would like to operate and shoot down Mexicans for a living
Generally I really wouldn't mind working for the government
>tfw it will never ever happen because I don't want anyone to look at my internet history
>>64642795
>but if you want to consider every unmarked Delta operative that is sent into the field for CIA operations a spy, go right ahead.
I don't, and no part of my post says they should be. I'm mocking your idea that people who sit in offices consider themselves 'real spies'. They don't.
If they do its only for a few days until everyone else laughs at them for thinking they're james bond and then they get stuck making the coffee for a month.
>I don't think you know what SIGINT and evaluation of said information
lol
>>64642792
I'd assume Brolin is part of either SAD or another CIA group that's designated with covert direct action shit like depicted in the movie.
He's probably either from DEV or Delta seeing as they train together and their roles are fairly similar these days, the use of Delta in the movie doesn't mean that he's necessarily from there.
I remember reading a book by a Delta guy who described seeing "in-house" SAD guys (not recruited from the military) as something rare, with him only really working with 1 such person.
>>64642834
I'm pretty sure it's the latter. The SAD is strictly part of the CIA and doesn't report to the military if I remember correctly
>>64642871
>conspiracy theories
>>64642871
>now a major motion picture!
into the trash it goes
>>64642915
>doubting conspiracy theories
>in the year of mammon 4162
I shiggyoyim
>>64642834
Somewhat of the latter' SAD operatives are usually Delta/MARSOC/DEVGRU guys that have done intensive tours and are recruited.
When they are CIA they aren't military perse any longer so it's not really the former statement you made.
But the CIA usually gets the special forces guys that are on their way out anyway so they have men replacing them.
>>64642834
It exists so that the CIA has their own specialized force and can directly recruit the best from said groups, which will be used in theoretical situations like the one in Sicario.
It's better for them to have control over their own unit.
>>64642915
it's all true the CIA invented crack and now they put brainwaves in our water
wake the fuck up
9/11 bush done knocked down the towers you know it
>>64642915
yes because after it came to light CIA and coke had a history, 23 CIA agents were pardoned by Bush SR.
the more you know.
Why are white people so fuckig stupid i swear to god you guys are the stupidest motherfuckers onthis planet even black people make more sense than you do
>implying nerd guy wasn't head of SOG after being recruited from delta years before
>>64642915
>>64642966
We wanted to fight a war in Nicaragua to overthrow the "communists" but the US Congress didn't want to pay for it and the American public didn't want to support it.
So we let the Nicaraguans smuggle a bunch of cocaine into the US.
>>64642994
tell that to your parole officer jamal
>>64643027
>the American public didn't want to support it
implying that has ever stopped anyone
>US Congress didn't want to pay for it
lol
so instead of fighting war they decided to have them smuggle crack?
really?
do i have to point out how that makes no sense whatsoever?
>>64642886
I think there is a misunderstanding here, I'm not talking about every officefag in existence. You think the people that work SIGINT don't sit in offices though?
It's not about bureaucracy related guys at all. The point was mainly related to the fact that not every inna field guy is a real "spy" and that plenty "real" spies do sit in offices and stare at the same shit for hours in order to make sense of Muslims fucking goats.
>>64643004
Why does the american taliban wear its beard if americans treat beards like a symbol of arrested development and faggotry?
Shouldn't they all be head shaven?
>>64643057
It is not /tv/s job to redpill you, go to /pol/ and start a thread if you want your illusions dispelled.
>>64643057
it's almost like cocaine was a ridiculously lucrative commodity and you need money for equipment, fuel and wages for retards to before you can fight a war.
do i really have to spell this out for you?
>>64643086
In order to fit in, both figuratively and literally.
>>64643057
i mean you don't have to believe it if you don't want to, but it happened
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/05/movies/kill-the-messenger-recalls-a-reporter-wrongly-disgraced.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/10/10/world/cia-reportedly-ignored-charges-of-contra-drug-dealing-in-80-s.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/07/17/world/cia-says-it-used-nicaraguan-rebels-accused-of-drug-tie.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking
>>64643004
The gang goes to afghanistan
>>64643086
>american taliban
Dirty Wars was so gud. Can anyone recommend more shit like that?
>>64642678
>all that witchcraft and magick bullshit
Disregarded.
>>64642954
>.
>>64642953
But since the president now has a declared war going on in over a hundred countries (legally speaking), what purpose would SAD serve, other than the personal interests of the people in charge at the CIA? JSOC can do all of the things that previously only they were 'allowed' to do, right?
>>64643154
kek
>>64643167
Half is disinfo. All the witchcraft is lereux astro turfing.
There are a couple books in there as well with genuinely interesting information.
>>64638873
spook reading list:
The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America's Secret Government, David Talbot, 978-0062416933
Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA, Tim Weiner, 978-0-385-51445-3
Killing Hope: U.S. Military and C.I.A. Interventions since World War II, William Blum, 1-56751-253-4
yes, these people definitely do exist
>>64643167
>plebe and proud
Okay.
>>64643154
>Mac giving the photographer dat ocular patdown
>>64643154
scary shit
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>>64643201
Like what?
>>64643209
Also read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program
>>64642944
Is your first thought really to shill against Jews when talking about government institutions which are comprised almost entirely of white Christians from top to bottom?
>>64643176
SAD has plausible deniability in overseas countries, and they don't report to the military, they report directly to the Director of National Intelligence who then reports to the President.
DEVGRU still has American patches on their BDU's, and they are usually identified as armed combatants.
SAD operatives could be in squads in full gear, they could also be scattered around dressed as civilians ready to assassinate someone.
That's what SAD can do versus the protocol that military groups have to follow.
>>64643154
>>64643211
>meme reply
Sure!
>>64643086
SOLDIER WHY THE FUCK IS YOUR FACE NOT SHAVED
YOUR FACE HAIR IS IN VIOLATIONS
POE LICE THAT MOO STACHE
PO YOUR ASS
LOOK LIKE ELVISES
THE GROOOMIN STANDARD
>>64643154
>>64643241
Plato's Republic
>>64643279
Does SAD not report to the deputy director or director of the CIA?
>>64643154
Looks too developed to be afghanistan
>>64643176
What? How did anything change? Also, the CIA doesn't only deal with war related shit. Mexico isn't at war with the US is it? They pull shit all over the planet, who fucking knows what they do.
SAD is the active fighting arm of the CIA, which makes them the tool that can be used for covert operations the US doesn't want to be involvement in. Other known special forces can't just enter any other country.
How do I join SAD/SOG without being Delta/DEVGRU?
>>64643437
SAD recruits out of other SOF units. not only the super exclusive ones though - I believe they recruit out of the green berets even. all you need to get in there is a degree and some language aptitude plus physical requirements. that said, just meeting the requirements for a green beret isn't going to get you into the SAD.
>>64641724
You have it backwards. CIA needed FBI so they could operate INSIDE of the U.S.
The OP starts off inside the U.S., then goes into Mexico through the tunnel
>>64643437
I am not sure if they still do this but I heard the US military had been recruiting through video games like CoD and Counter Strike, namely people who showed excellent tactical awareness and positioning skills. I read an article once that one guy was an operator in a game almost, they recruited him and he just needed to become fitter and some other intelligence-based skills.
>>64643312
The Director of the CIA is a civilian position who reports to Director of Nat Int and then the President, its an unbroken direct line to the highest executive authority, they can do things other units can't do.
>>64643547
I-I can become recruited and eventually become SAD by playing counter strike or bf2?
>>64643279
>Director of National Intelligence
But the director of national Intelligence is a position that was invented after 2001 to give more power to the military. The CIA has disputed the DNI's authority over them.
That makes it sound like they are a vestige of the new centralized military hierarchy, not an independent CIA army.
>>64643586
I cannot confirm BF2
>>64643241
Acres of Skin. Its about the history of human experimentation by the US government and government funded groups.
>>64641824
How can nerds be such good operators lmao
>>64642129
Stop that.
Sicario threads are the only place I see this kinds of things getting discussed.
I don't even see Quantico threads
But Sicario is a DEV movie...
>>64643363
JSOC operates exactly like SAD does, except they don't try to hide their nationality. JSOC can operate anywhere on earth essentially, under the war on terrorism's redefinition of a 'military theater'. Mexico certainly counts.
They are very active in Africa, where the U.S. jumps through hoops to pretend our military efforts are not actually kinetic operations.
>>64643547
How the hell does this work? CoD is so fast paced and random. Maybe the search and destroy modes?
>>64642129
>didn't actually watch the movie
>just spams autistic /k/ faggotry where it doesn't belong
back to reddit
>>64643703
>But Sicario is a DEV movie...
?
There seems to be a lot of knowledge in this thread so I'll ask something that's been bothering me for awhile.
What was Del Toro exactly? I know this film likes to blur the lines between good guys and bad guys and shit but he was hardly a literal Medillín hitman was he?
>>64643711
>where the U.S. jumps through hoops to pretend our military efforts are not actually kinetic operations.
what do you mean? how so?
>>64643767
He was a lawyer, a government prosecutor to be precise. In addition to law school prosecutors receive military training because they are working for the state.
>>64643711
>JSOC operates exactly like SAD does, except they don't try to hide their nationality
Which is what matters.
>>64643806
I know they said that but he must have been infamous enough to be recognized as "Medellín" even by simple drug mules. I assume he has more of a background than being a simple prosecutor. The man seemed to be as capable an operator (if not even more so) as the actual special forces.
>>64643770
Kony 2012 was a psy op that directly preceded the congress authorizing a deployment of several thousand soldiers in North Eastern Africa. Benghazi was triggered by some CIA gun running that was covered up, even though we very clearly just invaded Libya under the guise of a European led coalition. Our contribution to treating the recent ebola outbreak was something like 10,000 marines.
Anything to say we are doing something humanitarian rather than just another military operation. I would guess its because appearing to engage in clonialism is a much more sensitive issue in Africa than other parts of the world.
>>64638873
they dont old white republicans like to think they do but cia agents are fat anaylists nothing more
>>64643547
>I read an article once that one guy was an operator in a game almost, they recruited him and he just needed to become fitter and some other intelligence-based skills.
link pls
I never saw the movie because from the past films I knew the director is a anti war SJW
The movie is unrealistic because the CIA would never just recruit a random FBI agent in the hopes that she would just go along for the ride and sign off on everything in the end. What if she refused and chose instead to let Del Toro kill her and "die for her country?" They'd be up shit creek without a paddle. No, they'd have someone on the inside of the FBI ready to go and completely down with everything. Leaving things up to chance, like they did in the movie, is too messy.
>>64643869
They didnt recognise him, but some tooled up operator just busted in on their drug operation and killed someone. He assumed it was Medellin cos they're the only ones who have that kind of resources. Del Toro's plot line was dumb imo, he was a prosecutor who'sfamily were murderedso he became a good operator and, as CIA said, worked for anyone who would allow him to have a pop at the people who did it. He was a freelancer, basically.
>>64643824
But does it really? I thought the point of disguising under what flag you operate was to be able to fight the cold war all over the world without violating international treaties. If we now openly wage war in dozens of countries around the world simultaneously, what is the actual point of doing the same sort of asymmetrical warfare shit without ever putting on a uniform?
>>64642129
HE WOULDNT WANT TO KILL THEM OR ANYTHING
>>64643971
>instead to let Del Toro kill her and "die for her country?"
Then they'd forge her signature and say that she died heroically in the line of duty.
>>64643057
The US is the number 1 consumer of coke in the world.
>>64643999
FBI are goons anyway, the notion that they are the enforcement body with some kind of unimpeachable respect for the rule of law is Hoover-era propaganda.
>>64643980
It's so you can remove people without having your countrie's name attached to it, same goes for any other operation. Also, unmarked, no patch and so on means you can do whatever you want. Pretty obvious to be honest.
>>64644028
But my point is JSOC already 'does what it wants', you read? They do all of the assassination, wanton slaughter, and warlord collaborating that the CIA had a monopoly on. I understand the stated purpose when no military unit can do all of those things, but I'm saying that because there demonstrably is one now, why have SAD?
>>64644022
How do you guys know all this stuff? I don't doubt that you know a lot, I'm just curious.
>>64643999
So she died heroically in the line of duty then signed a document after said duty was over?
>>64643869
He was a prosecutor with military training but how much is anyones guess.
Its never outright said but its somewhat implied that after the deaths of his family by that particular cartel he joined up with another cartel (Colombians) and very much likely received much more training from that.
I think theres actually be mention of making a 2nd movie about Del Toros character
>>64644018
and that clearly means the CIA imported coke so they could pay for war in Nicaragua
it's the only possible conclusion one could make
>>64644084
I've seen tdkr five hundred times and I have a really good grasp on the CIAs character and his capabilities.
>>64644101
They would say she signed it before she died
>>64644084
I don't know about them but I began to see stuff like these when Tom Clancy franchise was popular
>>64644130
This desu. I watch this scene at least once a day for strength and comfort.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRCM0jWEQjQ
>>64642429
> /reddlit/ memes
>>64644064
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-agent-cleared-in-shooting-of-boston-bomb-suspects-friend/
>interrogate innocent man
>happily signs confession to all sorts of things he carefully confesses to over the course of a couple hours
>immediately attacks FBI agent with a shower rail (ftw) after signing confession
>forces knocked-over FBI agent to shoot him in the top of his head as he lunges forward with his shower rail
>just as soon as all other LEO are not immediately inside the room with them and the suspect
5/5 breddy conscience much plausibility
>>64644224
dfw was autistic in infinite jest is garbage, go back to reddit
>>64642607
He meant Mexico you dumb fuck
>>64642277
well memed
Do presidential aspirants know all these things beforehand or is it a shocking revelation to them once they assume office?
>>64644389
That does not make any sense.
>>64644596
My headcanon is that shortly after he takes teh oath they sit him down and show him the JFK video and say that this is what happens when they get uppity.
>>64644389
He meant the US.
The CIA isn't supposed to operate inside the US without a fed memeing about, they needed her for the tunnel shenanigans and signing the thing
>>64644651
Carter was surprised, Reagen was infirm but partially surprised, Bush was a former spook himself, Clinton is said to have some spooky ties, as is Obimmer, and thats all the presidents we've had so far since they crashed this country with no survivors.
>>64641824
>When you're a spy, you can shoot spics with a bunch of civvies around and it's not a problem
>>64644687
I thought the CIA wasnt supposed to operate in the US period.
>>64644692
I read that in Michael Westen's voice
>>64644764
Is Burn Notice worth watching?
>>64644691
>as is Obimmer
Source?
>>64643877
plausible but spouting things like this like you used to work in the office where they planned it hurts the message
interesting to think about though
>>64644713
There is a very long list of things the CIA isn't supposed to do, but its generally exactly what they're doing.
>>64644777
It's alright.
>>64644790
How do you think a community organizer was elected to the highest office in the country?
>>64644833
>>64644833
"im kind of black and we need reform"
>>64641302
CIA picks who they want from special forces units like the Seals, Delta or green berets.
They get put into HRT, and related teams and act as the muscle/soldering aspect of missions when its needed
if shit goes south they have more weight to push around and are better at handling something like that so they more or less can take over
if they want to get into a pissing contest about brass back at the office then fine, but they need to get back to the office first
>>64643918
The director is a SJW alright
And his last two movies are disiculous.
But movies aren't all about directors. They sometimes hire talents beyond them who put in valuable details to the movies
>>64644793
Its just an obervation bruv, nothing more.I'm not really concerned with how the perception of my identity affects the reader, since that can only be a projection m8. We are still anonymous on this website afterall.
I don't assume everybody ITT is an ex-navy seal just because they write authoritatively. Observations can't really be verified
>>64643227
"WASHINGTON (CNN) -- More than one-third of all weapons
the United States has procured for Afghanistan's government are
missing, according to a government report released Thursday.
The U.S. military failed to "maintain complete inventory records
for an estimated 87,000 weapons -- or about 36 percent -- of the
242,000 weapons that the United States procured and shipped
to Afghanistan from December 2004 through June 2008," a U.S.
Government Accountability Office report states.
The military also failed to properly account for an additional
135,000 weapons it obtained for the Afghan forces from 21
other countries.
The military is unable to provide serial numbers for 46,000 of
the missing 87,000 weapons, the report concludes. No records
have been maintained for the location or disposition for the other
41,000 weapons"
So CIA talked about how back in the day they could control things because there was just one cartel.
On the other hand, the films makes it very clear over and over that when you knock off someone higher up, it just creates even more chaos.
How are they going to restore some semblance of order if they keep assassinating people and creating chaos? I feel like I missed something.
>>64644790
I think it has to do with his mother's ties to the CIA.
Also the whole Bill Ayers thing. Bill Ayers is an old federal plant who acts as the reformed image of the militarized left-wing fringe of the 1960s.
The first association is much more concrete than the second.
>>64644987
That the CIA are bad guys and you shouldn't look for a moral in their methods.
>>64644987
>How are they going to restore some semblance of order if they keep assassinating people and creating chaos? I feel like I missed something.
Kill off the Mexicans and put the Colombians back in power who they somehow have leverage and power over, probably back from the narco wars in the 70s and 80s.
>>64641898
>>64641903
CONUS stands for Contiguous United States, not Continental. Alaska is part of the continent, but not part of CONUS, which is the "lower 48," so not Alaska, Hawaii, and all territories/protectorates.
>>64644987
Did you not watch the movie
They plan on putting the drug trade under control of the cartel Benicio DelToro is working for, the Colombians
So they plan on decapitating the snake and replacing Mexicans with Colombians
The end of the movie clearly shows that their plan didn't work
>>64644987
What happens to the CIA if there is nothing to do? Exactly.
>>64644833
>He wasn't a long time politician
>He wasn't Republican
>He wasn't Clinton's Wife
>He supported things people wanted
>He opposed things Bush supported
>He was Black
Pick any one
>>64645265
>he was given ungodly amounts of money and given a rapidly manufactured public persona that could not be contradicted by past experience
Actual reason ^^^
We really haven't had a president with zero spook fingers in the porridge since Carter, that's a common fact.
>>64644691
Everyone forgets that H-Dubya, before becoming VP and later POTUS, was the fucking CIA Director. He was the head of the snake. I wouldn't be surprised if he had power in the shadows greater than any president to come after him.
>>64645064
they'll go out and find themselves something to do
>>64645380
>I wouldn't be surprised if he had power in the shadows greater than any president to come after him.
Nah, there's this guy.
>>64645423
He may have run the place, but he wasn't actually the President.
>>64645423
Will we ever know just what Cheney got up to for eight years? I feel like it's probably all deeply classified.
>>64645423
>>64645380
They're all agents of the same cabal.
Real masters never had to work a day in their lives, not even as the Conspirator in Chief.
>>64645444
I know that. He ran it all from the shadows from the #2 spot.
>>64642000
CIA isn't supposed to operate in the US. That's the FBI's job.
>>64645449
Do we know all of the secrets of the vatican?
They aren't even in control of any nation at this point, but their vaults are still sealed.
>>64645449
>Will we ever know just what Cheney got up to for eight years?
I heard he likes shotguns
>>64645050
>Kill off the Mexicans and put the Colombians back in power who they somehow have leverage and power over, probably back from the narco wars in the 70s and 80s.
The Columbian drug lords aren’t really out of power, (the coke is still grown and processed in Columbia, Bolivia and Peru) it’s that when the U.S. shut down the _direct_ importation routes of coke from Columbia to the U.S. in the 1980s, the Columbians switched to using the Mexicans as middle-men and started shipping the coke from Columbia to Mexico and from there to the U.S.
This resulted in a steady increase in wealth and power for the Mexican drug lords but this also meant that instead of the drug trade being tightly controlled by a handful of mobsters in the Columbian Medellín and later Cali Cartels, there are now half a dozen or more Mexican cartels all doing their own thing and constantly waring with each other over profits.
>>64645472
You can't even fathom how powerful the Vatican is, STILL is after all these centuries.
>>64645380
And everyone forgets that he was made by Prescot Bush.
>>64642129
it's like you've never actually fired a weapon before
>>64645478
and quail hunting
>>64645490
Doesn't the vatican job to Israel now?
http://www.religionnews.com/2015/12/10/vatican-catholic-jews-jewish-anti-semitism/
>>64645380
For 16 years Putin was an officer in the KGB, rising to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel before he retired to enter politics in his native Saint Petersburg in 1991. He moved to Moscow in 1996 and joined President Boris Yeltsin's administration where he rose quickly, becoming Acting President on 31 December 1999 when Yeltsin unexpectedly resigned. Putin won the subsequent 2000 presidential election, despite widespread accusations of vote-rigging,[3] and was reelected in 2004. Because of constitutionally mandated term limits, Putin was ineligible to run for a third consecutive presidential term in 2008. Dmitry Medvedev won the 2008 presidential election and appointed Putin as Prime Minister, beginning a period of so-called "tandemocracy".[4] In September 2011, following a change in the law extending the presidential term from four years to six,[5] Putin announced that he would seek a third, non-consecutive term as President in the 2012 presidential election, an announcement which led to large-scale protests in many Russian cities. In March 2012, he won the election, which was criticized for procedural irregularities, and is serving a six-year term.[6][7]
>>64645490
The irony is you are posting a picture of the first pope to meaningfully introduce the influence of american power structures to the papacy, probably the greatest subversion of church autonomy in the last centuries.
I am including Vatican II in that.
>>64642129
>character literally pulls the trigger to shoot someone to death twenty seconds later
WHY WOULD HE POSSIBLY WANT TO PUT THE FINGER ON THE TRIGGER
HOW COME HE DIDNT JUST USE HIS WEAPONS VOICE COMMAND I DO NOT UNDERSTAND
>>64645472
>Do we know all of the secrets of the vatican?
ONCE MORE THE SITH SHALL RULE CATHOLOCISM
>>64639992
>that trigger discipline
Oh god my autism has been triggered
>>64645692
He was about to shoot a carful of people?
>>64645692
>>64645642
he intends to kill someone, they know the beaners have guns and are out to shoot them so they have their finger on the trigger so they can kill them first
watch the movie before spewing autism
>>64642201
>>64643671
>>64643994
>>64645512
>>64645642
>virgins who know nothing about weapons handling
>>64643547
Get real. Vidya game players are the last kind of people militaries want. they're looking for athletes, farm boys, and dudes with useful technical skills. If you want to join an outfit just get in shape and fly to France. the legion will either take you in or laugh in your face for thinking a fat faggot nerd like you could ever be an operative. but you lose nothing but travel expense if you fail, so go for it. And be sure to lie about ever having played vidya games
>>64645756
>look at me I browse /k/
He knew he was about to shoot the guys, of course his finger would be on the trigger
>>64645756
>/k/ autist that didn't watch the movie and can't comprehend that you need to pull the trigger if you want to shoot the gun
>merely pretending
>>64645708
>>64645712
>duuurrr he's gonna shoot them
Stop being fucking retarded, he's in an environment surrounded by civilians.
His reaction time wouldn't have been drastically compromised just by keeping his finger straight.
I understand you like the movie, but don''t try and argue about something you don't know shit about.
>>64645802
The military has been studying gamers for decades. aprobably weren't even on earth to hear the word of mouth rumors about government agents planting their own arcade games to collect data on players.
Drone pilots are just flight sim autists.
>>64645813
>look at me I'm retarded
Finger straight and off the trigger, especially if there are civilians around. He could've made the same shots if he kept his finger straight and would have actually looked like a professional doing it.
>>64645815
>>64645813
Except that /k/ knows what trigger discipline is, the guy is just a meme spouting retard.
>>64645826
nigger ur both retarded and austistic
what he does makes perfect sense, if he wants to kill someone he puts his finger on the trigger
>but civilians
the movie clearly shows that he does not care about civilians and that he is determined to kill a bunch of mexicans
go complain that it's not called a clip you cuck
>>64645815
>dumb virgin who has never held a weapon, let alone fired one.
>>64645864
>>64645826
Civilians argument doesn't matter if your own life is on the line
I highly doubt the SEALs were busting down doors in bin Laden's compound with their fingers off the trigger even though there were civilians
>it's an anon pretends to be an expert because he saw some Hollywood movies on the topic episode
You guys the same lot who gave themselves J.D.'s for the Steven Avery threads?
>>64645891
....but it isn't called a clip. You're just baiting now.
>>64645920
what's a jd?
>>64645932
law degrees
>>64645864
>I have 4 men in my sight who I know are armed
>I HAVE TO KEEP MY FINGER OF THE TRIGGER BECAUSE WEAPON HANDLING
if youre walking A to B, finger off the trigger, if you're having a FUCKING MEXICAN STANDOFF finger on the trigger.
you fucking nigger
>>64645920
>>64645942
>>64645905
BUT I POST ON /K/ IM AN EXPERT
I-ITS NOT CALLED A CLIP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>64641824
I shit my pants when I found out this was the same actor
>>64645905
You mean there are different ROEs for different environments? Holy shit you just blew my goddamned mind!
Protip:You didn't, and you're argument is bananas
>>64645976
Irish cuck?
>>64645920
Lol pretty much none of the conversation pertains to anything that happened in the actual movie.
Open a book some time.
> trigger discipline spazz fest
Y’all realize you’re being trolled, right?…
>>64645973
I AM SILLY
>>64646010
moiami
>>64646019
>m-merely pretending!
>>64645995
>ROEs having anything to do with where your finger is
>"There's a hostile with a gun pointed at me! I better not put my finger on the trigger though because the ROE says I can't engage unless engaged!"
Please think a little bit more before posting
>>64645449
He's a very bright guy and a skilled backroom backstabber, but he's also a neocon true believer which means his clandestine activities, whatever they may have been, were probably far more boring than you'd suspect. His biggest shenanigans are mostly out in the open, however. For example, he was apparently one of the driving forces behind the Iraq War, because his cronies in Saudi Arabia and the military were both sick of our protracted cold war status with Saddam that was costing everyone lots of money.
>>64646060
Do you even know why you're supposed to keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire you dumb nigger?
Have you ever actually held a weapon in your hands?
>>64645976
That’s who it was!
>>64646135
He was literally ready to fire
>>64646135
Yea I have 4 guns and been shooting for 13 years
Range practice =/= combat practice
>>64646187
>Range practice =/= combat practice
Good to know you at least accept that your wrong then. Why don't you just stick to shooting your little .22s on the range and stop trying to sound like you'd know what the fuck to do in this situation ,kid.
/k/ is the worst board
it's like the annoying mom that sits on the couch and goes "that's unrealistic!" every time anything happens in a movie
but in this case she also happens to be completely fucking wrong
This movie kinda sucked-there was no reason for Emily Blunt to start crying and shit. It could've been good but they fucked up the story.
havent seen this yet, is it good?
also, check em
>>64646303
It was enjoyable, if you liked Villeneuve's other works you'll like it
>>64646246
And you do know?
>kid
>>64646292
>>64646246
>>64646187
>>64646171
>>64646135
>>64646060
>>64646024
>>64645995
>>64645973
>>64645942
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>>64645905
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>>64645756
Nice forum sliding you wanton faggots, couldn't even be bothered to keep going, the number of shill posts about this one asinine topics posted in such a small amount of time is unreal.
>>64646333
Yes, I would.
I would start off by keeping my fucking finger straight the way I've been trained to.
>>64646296
>This movie kinda sucked-there was no reason for Emily Blunt to start crying and shit.
I was surprised that the movie actually showed a woman breaking down from the stress.
>>64646397
>Keep finger off trigger until you are on target and ready to shoot
He was both of those
>>64638873
No anon, don't be silly.
>>64642460
lol what the fuck
no
>>64641824
so dreamy.
I'd suck the clap out his nuts.
>>64641983
fuck, that or a SCP movie would be awesome.
>>64641983
That'll be the dream, yo. They can do fantasy shit like Shannara and scifi shit like Expanse and Minority Report but not Ctulthu mythos.
I though True Detective would break mythos shit into mainstream but it didn't.
