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How is Episode II so clearly the best?
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Episode III i better. Clearly the best of all seven movies.
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>>64633279
I was in favor of the "prequels aren't as bad as we made them out to be" reevaluation, but AOTC is definitely the worst one. The order goes:

V > IV > VI > I > III > VII > II
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>>64633279
daily reminder
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>>64633279
When is this meme that the prequels are suddenly good now going to end?
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>>64633393
Damn the new Battlefront sure looks shitty.
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>>64633279

it was the most experimental and freeform

episode 3 is arguably better but it wasn't as enjoyable to me because you already knew everything that was gonna happen since most of the major plot points were already known after seeing the OT.
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>>64633393
If you take out all the Yoda, Padme, and Anikan bullshit, the Clone Wars scenes were pretty good.

https://youtu.be/zDnY7S7z-cU
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>>64633279
Come on /tv/ this contrarianism has gone too far.

The prequels were not good TFA was ok now let this meme die
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This meme isn't even good.
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>>64633432

>opinion i dont agree with
>i cant even downvote it!
>must be a meme

go be reddit elsewhere
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>>64633393

Fucking hell this has aged badly
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>>64633371
>phantom menace
>not the worst
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>>64633482
Reddit has arrived
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>>64633497
Nice try redditor :)
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>>64633432
I just watched to movie again for the first time in years, ready to accept all of the hipster shit that I had to accept about I and that I kinda believed for the most part about III, but none of it stuck. It's all so extraordinary. Christensen actually is perfect for Anakin. He is just the angstiest yet cockiest fucker. That is exactly his personality. And we see it come to full fruition when he slaughters the sand people, and obviously even moreso in III.

The most plot also happens in II. Anakin and Padme get married, Obi-Wan discovers the clone army, Jar Jar leads the Senate to further enable Sheev, Dooku has a slight moment when he wants to betray his master. It's all so loaded with deception. Truly, I love this movie. It's flawed, yes, but it's awesome in so many ways that VII can't even grasp at. Even I has this magic that escapes VII
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>>64633371
>Episode I
>better than literally anything

into the trash it goes
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>>64633607
Hello reddit
How's the funny cat pictures?
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>>64633393
kek, looks worse than Battlefront
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>>64633438
without a hint of sarcasm that game looks better
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>>64633636
Plebs. Yeah Jar Jar and baby Anikan suck, but Episode 1 actually relies on storytelling and buildup. AotC and RotS are all style over substance. I can't even bare to re-watch AotC, and whenever I watch RotS I skip any scene without Palpatine.
But TPM works well as a stand-alone movie, and is the best prequel when NOT compared to the OT.
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>>64633731
I agree. The game looks fucking fantastic. I love going in the diorama and viewing the detailed ship/character models (it's more fun than actually playing the game).
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Official power rankings
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2/5/3/1/4/6
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>>64633776
This anon is right

Menace is not a good movie, but it is comprehensible.

Clones is a horrific mess.

Sith is as well but it has Palpatine hamming it up so there's actually a spark of life and fun somewhere in the film
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>>64633776
>webm for ya
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>>64633827
I realized mine last night. 2, 4/5 3, 6, 7, 1

4 and 5 are so close and I flipflop
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>>64633853
God fucking damn, my heart literally melted.
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How is episode 2 not considered the best Star wars?
This was the movie that Lucas was able to actually run wild with his imagination without technical restraints

>that autistic adult anakin perfectly portrayed by Hayden
>jango fett and obi wans fight scene
>the clone wars battle
>Anakin getting his arm cut off by a sith lord trying to protect obi wan
>that Natalie portman in her prime
>yoda fights for the first time
>SHEEV
>that assassin chase in corausant
>that bar scene with all the bar sluts mirrin Anakin
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>>64633279
>>64633371
>God Tier
4, 5, 6, and 3

>Good tier
1 and 2

>Very Bad Tier
Holiday Special

>Made for redditors tier
7
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>>64633961
Have another.
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>>64633279
V>IV>VI=VII>>I>III>II

>>64633393
Clusterfuck battle scenes like this were typical of the PT. Just throw everything you can into the frame, Lucas.
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>>64634022
This.

Thank You Based George
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>>64633776
>menace is comprehensible

>emergency landing on Tatooine
>instead of getting the first shuttle off or hire a trafficer/smuggler to get them off the planet, they try a convulated plan of getting spare parts to fix their ship
>somehow they know exactly how to fix their ship, future technology is that simple to repair or replace
>instead of going to a money exchange center to change their credits for tatooine currency, they try a convulated plan of betting their ship for spare parts on a podracing race
>instead of simply going past every merchant to find one that will accept their currency, they abandon all hope after the first rejects them

Damn it, I can continue for hours. Phantom Menace is the worst movie in the series. There is no debate here.
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>>64633393
Why do the Clones and the Droids stand in front of their budies? Are they trying to get hit?
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>>64633432
When the new Batman Superman movie comes out, assuming its as bad as it looks.
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So who's the SECOND biggest Mary-Sue in Star Wars?
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>>64634585
TPM's Anakin
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>>64634300
calm down Redditor
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>>64633279

Episode II is undeniably one of the worst movies ever made. It does have one thing going for it over Episode I, and that's it actually starts the story everyone wanted to see, but Jesus Christ on a pogo stick, it's like Lucas forgot everything he ever knew about telling a story.
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>>64633482
I agree
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the prequels were still salvageable after episode 1, episode 2 truly ruined them. No matter how good episode 3 could have been it was beyond redemption after 2. And episode 3 wasn't very good.
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>>64634692
He wasn't really too bad apart from how dreadful TPM was anyway, you could cite the podrace but the big thing about it was supposed to be that he'd never even finished the race before, at least he wasn't flipping around and taking out droids like it wasn't no thing
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>>64634300
I can't stand you faggots that can't suspend your disbelief for a second.

Who are you to decide how currency works on a backwater planet in a distant galaxy? Maybe they don't take a shuttle off Tatooine or hire a smuggler because it would increase their chances of being detected. MAYBE there's no money exchange center, their currency is indeed useless on that planet, and once they found the part they needed the just rolled with it. It fucking worked, didn't it? It wasn't as convoluted as your autism forces you to believe.
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>>64633279
I was just gonna say it's definitely the best Obi-Wan movie.

When is there gonna be a fan edit of the prequels that makes them all about Obi-Wan and turns II and III Anakin into a background character? I'm imagining a Kill Bill style two parter.

Edit out Sheev and Yoda ever using lightsabers and trim most of II's love story. Maybe even edit it so their romance isn't secret.

The Phantom Edit was basically the opposite, cutting II's Obi-Wan scenes and adding in deleted scenes of the Anakin-Padme romance.
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>>64633393
Making all Clone Troopers CGI was a bad idea, looks so unnatural when they move
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>>64633825
the game got boring pretty fast, I like to go in and just look at shit up close. I probably cause my team to lose every game.
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>>64634585
>it ain't me starts playng
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>>64635021
didn't they have real people doing the movements though?
does anyone have green screen pics/vids of those scenes?
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>>64634909

Any movie or setting needs a foundation to work on. A good movie conveys the rules of the world visually by logical and comprehensible actions of the characters, which is something TPM failed at on every level. Suspension of disbelief works when some character bends the rules of the world, making you give them the benefit of the doubt in that situation. However, suspension of disbelief does not work when it used to abrogate any logic from the movie, as it leaves the movie without a foundation to stand on.

Ie, use logical setup and pay-off in a movie to justify character's actions and motivations
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I did not understand Yoda and the Council on this decision

>send a teenager to guard a teenager
>they become close and fall in love
>Obi-wan knows they were married but hid it for some reason I can't remember
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It should be easy to re-release movies with updated CGI right? Why doesn't this happen more often
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>>64633371
swap II and III and you're good.
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Episode 2 wasa prerrty shit overall, but it had some very cool scenes and concepts
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>>64635369
too bad the whole plot was a complete train-wreck and still makes no sense to this day
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>>64635251
>>64635251
Maybe in some situations but definitely not all. There's the scene that floats around with Mace Windu stepping out of a ship by himself in blue screen and heaps of clones get added in afterwards
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>>64633393
you know, i loved this growing up as a kid and i wasnt critical of films until i went on /tv/ i never realised how awful the CGI was. youve ruined this film for me every time i see the clones
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>>64634300
Woah, woah, woah...
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>>64635406
plans within plans within plans

do you even Dune bro?
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5 > 4 > 6 > 7 > 3 > 2 = 1
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5 > 4 > 6 > 3 > 1 > 7 > 2
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>>64635287
>logical setup
>character's actions and motivations
android detected
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>>64634300
None of this is implausible. The only implausible thing in the prequels is how Anakin got turned so easily, which is why I dislike ROTS the most.
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>>64635287
>refutes autism accusation with even more autism
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>>64636057
For an experienced and wise Jedi, yes, it is very implausible his decision making would be that bad.
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V > IV > VII > III > VI > II > I
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>>64637701
V>IV = Jaws II > Jaws This is what you've been proselytizing this entire time.
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>>64635960
Jaws II > Jaws
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>>64633279
It's not. It's the fucking worst.
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>>64633371
Change "I>III>VII" to "VII=III>I" and it's fine. Seven was a shitshow artistically, but it was a competently constructed film. Three was less well technically constructed, but it had a more original story and had some actual emotional moments. One is trash, literally nothing I like about it at all.

However...
>>64633279
Two is even worse trash. Not only is there nothing I really like about it, there's just too many moments that make me want to stop being aware of my surroundings and just go into a coma.

>>64633393
I liked this as a kid, I'm ashamed to admit.
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>episode 3 being better than anything in the OT
This shitty meme opinion needs to get wiped from the face of the earth. 1 and 2 are so shit nobody would even think of ranking them above the OT
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>>64633474
>it ain't shmi
>not it ain't sheev
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THIS IS ADMIRAL BIATCH TO BASE CAMP

IT SEEMS THE STORMTROOPERS HAVE GONE ON STRIKE AND I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH THIS TYPE OF SHIT, WHO SHOULD I CALL FOR HELP?
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>>64639340
>can't handle the banter
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>>64633621
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfevBIsVG1o

Agreed.
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>>64635406
>Hasn't even realized the Sith hired Jango to find an assassin that would fail
>hasn't realized the whole thing was to get into anakins head and make him worried about padme dying
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>>64634826
He also blew up the control ship with his awesome spinning skillz. It was pretty bad. On the other hand at least he didn't shit up any reoccurring villains and turn them into a joke.
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underage will be underage
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5 > 4 > 6 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 7
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>>64634300
>tries to prove TPM is worse than AotC
>by showing that TPM is bad

No one worth talking to actually thinks that TPM is good. It's just that AotC is WORSE.
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>>64639713
>It's just that AotC is WORSE.

Nice opinion.
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>And we see it come to full fruition when he slaughters the sand people

>goes from being a bratty kid
>to a genocidal murderer
Yes, good progression, genius poetry

>Anakin and Padme get married
After he made creepy advances toward her, disagreed with her political views fundamentally, and went on a psychotic rant about slaughtering a village. Yeah, my clit gets hard just thinking about it.

>Obi-Wan discovers the clone army, Jar Jar leads the Senate to further enable Sheev, Dooku has a slight moment when he wants to betray his master. It's all so loaded with deception

>movie is good
>because it contains lies and decpetion
what even are you arguing here?

>It's flawed, yes, but it's awesome in so many ways that VII can't even grasp at. Even I has this magic that escapes VII
I do agree that, for all the prequels' flaws, at least they bothered to try and do something new and different, and there are a few moments where it does pay off, if only a few. VII is a more competent film, but that's mainly because it's imitating one of the more beloved films of all time.

Doesn't make the prequels good.

>>64639748
>other guy says "there is no debate here
>present an alternative perspective that could be debated
>"lol nice opinion"

>it's a "hiding behind inherent subjectivity to avoid defending your position" episode
pic related
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>>64633393
How are they going up without any propulsion systems?
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It was boring.
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>>64640097
No, the one thing I love about Episode 2 is when he slaughters the sand people. They absolutely deserved it. And, in many ways, it mirrors perfectly the issues the White Man has always had with savages in the third world.
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>>64633432
Did you expect anything else? I knew that star wars contrarians would pop up as soon as the new film came out now matter how well received it was.
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Never seen 5 or 6, so my order is as follows:

3 - best
1 - good
2 - decent
4 - old, outdated, boring, still watchable but barely
5- couldn't even make it beyond 5 minutes
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>>64640788
The Prequels are inferior films, they just are. This whole contrary movement is such a fucking reddit-tier movement it makes me want to walk into traffic.
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5 > 4 > 6 > 7 > 2 > 1 > 3
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I can't defend this shit. I can just point out two scenes I thought were great. Obi-Wan v Jango and the chase that happened through the asteroid belt. The latter only being really fun in theaters because of the sound the bombs make.
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>>64640627
Stormfront pls.
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>>64640163
Anti-gravity is a thing in Star Wars.

What do you think keeps speeders in the air?
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>>64640881
>the sound the bombs make

Fuck yeah.

That shit got me hard.
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4 > 5 > 3 > 6 > 7 > 1 > 2

The only true order.
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>>64634746
>>64633279
I came here to post this. This movie looks like garbage and is needlessly convoluted and weighed down by the very settings it tries to highlight. Episode 2 also makers the point of no return on everything star wars. This is the bullet that killed the franchise, and ruined it everyone.
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>>64633393
The overall battle isn't too bad, but the clone troopers just look so jarringly cartoonish.
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>>64640874
>>64640963

>3 below 1 and 2
>2 above anything
>3 better than 6

Hitler may have been onto something.
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>>64640627
>kidnap one woman
>get your entire village slaughtered, even the women and children
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>>64640788
Here's the (You) you so desperately crave. It will never make your parents love you.
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>>64639713
But it's not. It's a case of people being myopic about the romance. Other than the romance there is no comparison between the films. Clones is far and away superior.
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Time to reveal the truth:
5 >>>>>>>> 4 > 6 = 3 = 7 >>> 1 >>> 2
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>>64640963
5>4>6>7>3>2=1

This is the only true order.
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>>64640788
Shouldn't you be doing your homework, son? Wouldn't want you to have to repeat the fifth grade again.
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>>64633279
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>>64641153
>empire not the peak

Kek
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>>64641198

sorry, I don't subscribe to your memery
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>>64640987
> needlessly convoluted
> made my brian hurt

sad
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>>64641231
I hope you die
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>around the survivors, a perimeter create

What did he mean by this?
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>>64633279
It's time to end the The Prequels Are Good meme.

If you seriously think the prequels are anything other than unforgiveable, you have autism.

If you're meme-ing, you have autism.

If you're spouting this nonsense because you're just pretending to have autism, you have autism.
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>>64633279
That's a fragment OP. Best at - what.
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>>64635251
just because something is mocapped doesn't mean it's going to automatically look real. it has to be tweaked by animators after.
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>>64641153
>4 higher than 5

I like you
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>>64641075
>kidnap, torture, rape, and kill his mother

>Cut his step-father's leg off, and kill most of his step-father's friends

>are genetically inferior savages leading an inferior savage existence and will no doubt kidnap more decent white people so who fucking cares if they live or die


Boy, you fucking milllenials have been so brainwashed into liking savages, or anything brown, I bet you kiss your shit before you flush it.
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Here's some concept art for you fellas

I also think the love theme from Episode 2 is pretty nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kORguInD9MM
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>>64633371

5>4>6=3>7>1>2
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>>64641279
hurr my opinion is the only valid one, everybody else is autistic durr.

You DO sound autismal tho
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Every1 in this thread go back too reddit plz.
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>>64633393
I still like this :^)
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>>64641356
Sorry you had to find out about your condition like this.
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4>5>6>3>7>1>2
5 better than 4 is a pretty good meme, ai'll give you that boys.
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>>64640963
hello! nice to see someone put the original at the top!
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>>64639578
>b-but Sheev planned every scene in the movie!
Back2reddit
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>>64641404
>projecting
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>>64641279

The prequels are flawed, in some cases badly, but they're still good. Except for Attack of the Clones. And they're imaginative and actually expand and detail the universe and lore of Star Wars, which even the CGI cartoon series do. And Lucas was trying to make art.

TFA is just Disney capeshit set in the Star Wars universe.
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>>64641494

this desu.
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>>64641324
that theme alone is better than the rest of the movie
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>>64641454
>last word freak
>fan of cartoony, B class nonsense
>probably loves anime too

Nope, no autism here folks! Move along.
Whatever you need to tell yourself, Chester.
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>>64641494
Attack of the Clones is the best prequel. I actually watch them on a semi-regular basis.
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>hurr durr 4 better than 5, look at my patrician contrarian special snowflake taste
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>>64641115
>this denial
You're really going to make me create an autistic list, aren't you?

>padme flies escort to her double, because being in a fighter jet is safer than being in a transport
>"I failed you senator" because dying in an explosion is a personal failing
>"he's a political idealist, not a terrorist"
>yoda can't sense the dark side on sheev two feet away
m-muh clouded judgement, believable justification, yes
>movie wants us to think that anakin and obi-wan are friends, but literally all they do is argue after they exit the elevator
>anakin makes awkward comments towards padme, and she immediately friendzones him, but this will be conveniently ignored later
>padme was queen, an elected political office, when anakin was still a child, and he can't be more than twenty now, so there must be a fair age difference, but this isn't an problem because they look the same age or whatever who cares XD
>sit in a room with large exposed windows
>that retardedly convoluted assassination attempt
>the fact that the assassin is a shapeshifter serves literally no purpose, she just has two easily recognizable faces
>jango kills her but doesn't shoot anakin and obi-wan
>obi-wan can only identify the poison dart by going into a fifties diner, the owner of whom apparently saw similar TOXIC DARTS while PROSPECTING, and can identify it's origin better than an analysis droid, because "they only focus on symbols"
>jango was using a dart that could be traced back to Camino
>dooku bothered erasing Camino from the archives when there are clearly still people who definitely know what it is and can identify products manufactured there
>they needed a youngling to tell them that the reason he couldn't find the data was because it was deleted
>the jedi send anakin, a young man who started training late, to guard a beautiful woman who the movie seems to want us to think is his age
>obi-wan just has to tell the caminoans he's a jedi, and they tell him everything
Cont.
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The star wars prequels make up seriously the worst high-profile/big-budget movie trilogy of all time. Really. Even the Hobbit trilogy is a fucking masterpiece compared to the PT.

Prequel apologists = young faggots with nostalgic memories of watching and liking the prequels when they were happy, impressionable children. I was old enough to realize that the prequels were all objectively terrible movies when they first came out.

Revenge of the Sith was absolute shit; the kind of people who put that above Return of the Jedi are completely delusional and are the worst kind of prequel apologists. And TFA wasn't a masterpiece by any means, but to say any of the prequels were better than it is delusional as well.
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>>64641568
>getting this mad over an opinion.
>not terminally autistic
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>tfw always liked the prequels
>tfw always thought the original trilogy was overrated as fuck and them being masterpieces is a meme that parents forced on their children
>tfw think tfa is a phoned in piece of shit where the only time they attempt to evoke any kind of feelings from the viewer is by killing off some haggard old piece of shit from the ot
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>>64641578

It's artistically very beautiful for sure, and Lucas' use of color and tone is amazing. The action scenes were tremendous and brilliantly shot.

I just can't get past Christensen and Portman's lack of chemistry on screen. It's anti-chemistry. In the presence of those scenes, water turns to ice and gold turns to lead.
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>>64641619

I was 23 when the last prequel came out. Go watch some MCU movies and keep telling yourself they're good too.
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>>64641619
>OT apologists = young faggots with nostalgic memories of watching and liking the OT when they were happy, impressionable children. I was old enough to realize that the OT were all objectively terrible movies when they first came out.

fixd
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>>64641623
>mad
>now who's projecting

Seriously, whatever you need to tell yourself.
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>>64641324
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>>64641599
>>padme was queen, an elected political office, when anakin was still a child, and he can't be more than twenty now, so there must be a fair age difference, but this isn't an problem because they look the same age or whatever who cares XD

While I largely agree with you, Padme was 14-15 in TPM and Anakin was 8-9
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>>64641672
But you have the same crap in ROTS and that film is just depressing and more constrained. AOTC is the only prequel that feels like a real adventure. TPM is a bore that has to fall on the sword of being an introductory. AOTC has so much going on it's insane.
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>>64641725
if we keep this up we might both be a little autistic desu
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>>64641708

>I was old enough to realize that the OT were all objectively terrible movies when they first came out.

>implying this

Your mom's boyfriend probably took you to see the prequels.
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>>64633279
>How is your opinion not universal?
Because you're a contrarian shitlord maybe?
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>>64641756

That's a good point. If it weren't for Harrison Ford, those Endor dialogue scenes would've been cringe to the point of physical pain.

>I-I can't tell you!
>oh, leave me alone (dramatic turn)
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>>64641323
>are genetically inferior savages
[citation needed]
Also, since they literally aren't human, can you call them "genetically inferior"? They seem to be doing just fine, certainly better than Anakin was before he was rescued, and he was meant to be this Prince-that-was-promised Kwisatz Haderach
Ubermensch shit.

>>64641656
Only that last part is true

>>64641672
>The action scenes were tremendous and brilliantly shot
"eh"
If the digital objects in that big battle scene on Geonosis actually felt real in any way, I might actually like the scene. None of the other action scenes were good at all, I only even remember some of them for how awful they were.

>>64641708
>i no u r butt wut am i XD
"muh OT is overrated" people, everybody.

>>64641752
>Padme was 14-15 in TPM and Anakin was 8-9
[citation needed]
That's what makes sense, except AotC establishes that the position of Queen is elected. You mean to tell me they elected a child queen, who is allowed by her advisors to lead troops into battle and walk into laser-fire?
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>>64641783
I've already moved on to making fun of some other spaz, millennial scum.
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>>64641756
>"Every scene is so dense, there's so much going on..."
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>>64641828
traitor
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>>64640963
>4 above 5
>2 under 1
>7 above anything

That's just fucking cute.
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>>64633393
Hope you'll forver daily remind us that CGI ages.
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>>64633576
To
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>>64633393
Star Wars the animated series looks great!
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>>64641813
>That's what makes sense, except AotC establishes that the position of Queen is elected. You mean to tell me they elected a child queen, who is allowed by her advisors to lead troops into battle and walk into laser-fire?

Yep, them's the rules. When they meet the new queen on Naboo, in AotC, she's a teenager too.

>Portman in TPM was 3 years older than Amidala
>Portman in AoTC was 4 years younger than Amidala

feels weird man
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>>64641599
>Padme is being targeted by assassins
>Hide her on her home planet with her family
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>>64633279
How much crack have you smoked today, anon? Maybe you meant V?
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the correct ranking is:

II > I > VII >>> III > VI >>> IV > V
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>>64641599
Cont.
>there's no reason that padme and anakin should love one another, no chemistry at all, but they're attractive people in beautiful locations must be love yeah XD
I'll avoid citing any specific stupid lines as "flaws", particularly meme ones, but they are there and deserve at least as much hate as they get.
>obi-wan is carrying a tracker in his pocket that can just stick to the side of a ship about to jump to light-speed no problem, Jango can detect he's being tracked but doesn't notice until they're already at Geonosis

I will make a point that Anakin going to Tatooine simply because he had a vision actually makes sense for his character.

>Padme goes with him to Tatooine because fuck safety, remember even the movie doesn't think they're "in love" yet
>anakin has met Beru and Lars, but obi-wan still thinks this is a safe place for Luke later
Don't say anything about that being a flaw of RotS, they were just following OT canon, this movie is the one that established Anakin knew them.
>anakin goes from being a bratty kid to slaughtering n entire village in the span of a few scenes, the movie thinks this is logical character progression
>goes on a psychotic rant to padme, but she still falls in love with him

The rant itself is not the issue.

>Anakin steals C3PO from the Lars' because... he's in the OT... poetry?
>obi-wan sneaks into the seperatist base on geonosis and just immediately hears their evil plan
>the Viceroy is still willing to be Sidious' pawn, despite how awful that went for him last time
>the Viceroy is not in space jail for invading a sovereign planet or committing war crimes ("our people are dying")
>obi-wan just parks his ship out in the open so it can be easily seen
>dooku tells obi-wan Sidious' entire plot, obi never tells anyone that HUNDREDS of senators are being controlled by A SITH LORD yes, the one we've been looking for

>>64642040
Alright, confirmed retardedness in the flick

>>64642062
Mm, that too
Cont.
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>>64642062
> the government hides the fact she left the capital
> Padme explains they're at her home world because she knows good hiding spots

Did you even watch the film? Sincere non-edgy responses appreciated.
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>>64633393
i legitimately thought this was a scene from one of those star wars cartoons that everyone raves on about so much

is this actually from episode II? wow
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>>64642263
>space samurai with telekinesis and laser swords are cool
>a teenage queen is stupid!

C'mon now. And there's plenty of precedent for child royalty in real-life history.
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This is the true ranking, any others are wrong:

V > VI > III > IV > VII > I > II
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>>64641813
>citation needed
They aren't white people
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>>64642263
Anakin created C3PO
Yes, it's convenient, but who cares?
The Viceroy has no choice. Sidious got them off the hook for their crimes
Sidious and the Republic being corrupt as its been established by the films should suffice for you
He actually does not.
It's a great scene and it's purpose is to make the Jedi doubt the senate, which will create tension between the two and eventually lead to the Jedi being branded enemies of the Republic. It's a brilliant little seed to plant.
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>>64642414
Menace is not better than Clones.
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>>64633393
CGI aside I feel like Lucas should have used quadrants a bit more. Narrating a battle in quadrants should be both interesting and spectacular
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>>64642453
They are both just different cheeks on the same pimply fat ass
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>>64642309
What were the hiding spots, exactly? I remember her returning to her parents' house.
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>>64642414
>III > IV
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>>64633279
Tell me about Jenga Fett.
Why does he wear the mask?
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>>64642493

III is a stronger film.
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>>64633279
I enjoy Ep. II for nostalgia-related reasons, but I always thought it was the worst Star Wars.

Not anymore.
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>>64642588
>I enjoy Ep. II for nostalgia-related reasons
>Having nostalgia for ep II
I'm so glad I'm not you
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>>64642588
>I enjoy Ep. II for nostalgia-related reasons, but I always thought it was the worst Star Wars.
>Not anymore.
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>>64642486
> Excuse me! I was thinking I would
stay in the Lake Country. There
are some places up there that are
very isolated.
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>>64642530
not really but the cool flips probably soothes your autism so you liked it more
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>>64642494
>shitty bane post
>from a phone
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>>64642263
Cont.
Forgot to mention:
>JarJar is a senator
This isn't a JarJar hate meme, I do hate him but that's not the point. He's apparently qualified to be a senator, and was elected by his people. The fact that he was made a general was dumb enough. This actually ONLY makes sense if that literally reddit theory is true, which it isn't.

>padme goes with anakin inside THE INDUSTRIAL PARK
>R2 pushes 3PO inside THE INDUSTRIAL PARK because he's apparently a sadistic monster
>3po's head can't control the battle droid body, but the battle droid head can control his body
>3po's head is compatible with the battle droid's body and vice versa
>jango is openly working for the separatists, but the clones are used without question for the rest of the flicks
>jarjar is easily guilted into supporting the military creation act and giving sheev emergency powers
>anakin, padme, and obiwan are made to fight in the arena instead of being immediately executed, even though the WHOLE REASON THIS WHOLE THING STARTED WAS TO KILL PADME
>they managed to kill the wild alien animals and the separatists let them finish up instead of just shooting them
>windu can just walk up behind dooku no problem, even though there were super battle droids down the same hallway
Cont.


>>64642396
Yeah, hereditary child monarchs are fine, and when I first saw TPM, that's what I thought she was. But if Naboo would ELECT a child queen who isn't just a figurehead, THAT is stupid

>>64642417
They aren't people at all, my entire point.

>>64642431
>Anakin created C3PO
And someone else finished him. The Lars' were obviously using him for something, Anakin just took him and there was no explanation as to why.

>Sidious got them off the hook for their crimes
this is never stated or implied
>It's a great scene and it's purpose is to make the Jedi doubt the senate
I know what it's purpose is, and I wouldn't call it a great scene, just two people sitting in a room talking with no creative camerawork.
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>>64642588
> I always thought it was the worst Star Wars.

Not in 2002 you didn't.
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>>64642656
Why couldn't TFA have any cool animals like the prequels?
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>>64642588
her face is so dumb

imagine cuming in it, she would look even dumber
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>>64642239
here is your reply almost half an hour later.
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>>64642715
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>>64642691
> this is never stated or implied

"AFTER FOUR TRIALS IN THE SUPREME COURT NUTE GUNRAY IS STILL THE VICEROY OF THE TRADE FEDERATION."|

Now why do you think that is?
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It's amazing how you prequel nitpickers come to bat for TFA; a film with as much inspiration as a stick drawing.
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>>64642696
How the hell would you know?

All I remember thinking when I saw it in theaters was how goofy and out of place the Yoda/Dooku duel was when compared to the relatively dramatic showdown with Darth Maul
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>>64642691
>padme goes with anakin inside THE INDUSTRIAL PARK

I agree that this happened.

>R2 pushes 3PO inside THE INDUSTRIAL PARK because he's apparently a sadistic monster

Scene is played for laughs. Non-issue

>3po's head can't control the battle droid body, but the battle droid head can control his body
>3po's head is compatible with the battle droid's body and vice versa

....................................

>jango is openly working for the separatists, but the clones are used without question for the rest of the flicks

Jango is a gun for hire, and for all the Jedi know they could have intercepted a would be Separatist army. They proved themselves in battle, and then the fog of war set in and they never properly investigated them. Certainly a weak point overall, but that's more of a ROTS issue.

>jarjar is easily guilted into supporting the military creation act and giving sheev emergency powers

Sounds perfectly within his character to do so.

>anakin, padme, and obiwan are made to fight in the arena instead of being immediately executed, even though the WHOLE REASON THIS WHOLE THING STARTED WAS TO KILL PADME

Why was it drawn out? Because it's fun. You can't be serious here.

>they managed to kill the wild alien animals and the separatists let them finish up instead of just shooting them

Go to hell.

>windu can just walk up behind dooku no problem, even though there were super battle droids down the same hallway

They were not aware that Obi Wan was able to report their location before he was captured, so their defenses were down.
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>>64639361
>>
Objective Star Wars rankings:

5 > 4 > 7 > 6 > 3 > 1 > dogshit > 2
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>>64642691
Also, shouldn't the Lar's remember 3PO in ANH?
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>>64643083
>>64643083
I can be onboard with that non.
Based rankings
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>>64634133
Clearly no comparison with that fucking masculine mary sue in TFA. Back when Star Wars was not SJW shit fest.
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Do Jedi get salaries?
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>>64643939
They get portions
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>>64643083
>being this stupid
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>>64642691
>the jedi can sneak into an all-geonosian crowd and no one notices
>the jedi clump together and then swing their LSs wildly, cause that's brilliant
>at one point, padme is literally riding through a shooting gallery gunning down droids like it's a carnival game, sure glad I'm not fearing at all for her safety
>this is a bit of a nitpick, but you mean to tell me that these elitebattle droids that are a huge threat to the republic are worse marksmen than a twenty year old politician ON A MOVING HOVERCHARIOT?
>near the end, the droids have the jedi surrounded, and they all need to block the incoming laser fire, but padme's fine
>suddenly the clones come in, and there are large formations of droids and heavy ordinance deployed on a battlefield near the stadium

This one I'm willing to concede, but wasn't the clones showing up meant to be a surprise attack? How were the droids able to marshal and form up so quickly? Like, less than a minute.

>literally every clone is cgi
Cont.


>>64642763
Mm, I stand corrected. Doesn't exactly save the flick, but fine. I am doing this from memory, so please tell me if I just say something completely wrong.

>>64642979
>R2 tries to kill 3po
>"lol its just for fun lol"

>....................................
By compatible, I meant "the factory machines can attach them fine with no error". If anything, this makes it even more odd why 3po's head can't make his body stop shooting jedi, but his body responds to the battle droid's will just fine.

>Because it's fun
>it's okay if something doesn't make sense because it's "fun"
I must have forgot to say that these are only applicable if you forgot to TURN OFF YOUR BRAIN XD. Also, >implying that sequence was fun. If it was, I might consider letting it sit, but it was just as shitty as the rest of the action in this movie, cartoon characters shooting at eachother with pretty lights and no sense of danger because I know everyone important lives.

>>64643101
Yeah, this too.
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>>64642696
Most people thought exactly that. I know I did and I was 12 and loved Phantom Menace. Episode II was when the Lucas backlash really began.
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>>64633432
>>64633482
>>64633496
>>64641279
Yeah, it's kind of a shit meme.
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>>64633279
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>>64645284
>gunship can't shoot dooku because they're "out of rockets, sir"
>dooku's speeder is at least as fast as a military gunship so that he can outrun them
>Yoda using a LS
>Yoda jumping around like a retarded
>Yoda has trouble lifting the pillar, because size matters now I guess
>Yoda can't stop dooku's ship, because size matters now I guess
>padme and all the clones miss when they fire at Dooku's ship, but honestly it probably wouldn't have mattered even if they hit every shot
>I actually like Dooku's ship design, but he is never shown making a jump to Lightspeed, instead just deploys a solar sail to get from geonosis to coruscant, which I know from SW Battlefront 2 are on almost opposite sides of the galaxy. I'm sure he did jump to lightspeed, but they shot his entire journey like one continuous scene, with no indication of a huge timeskip or coming out of lightspeed
>sheev can sneak off from his duties as chancellor while open war is on to talk menacingly to dooku
>the jedi don't find it odd that anakin and padme went back to naboo
>the clones flew to coruscant just so they could get back on their ships and fly away
>even assuming this was a "display" of the clones, is no one suspicious that sheev is holding a fascist war rally?
>R2 and 3po are basically property, but are apparently adequate as witnesses for padme and anakin's wedding

FN-2187

Well, that's it, my definitive diatribe on all the issues I can specifically remember off the top of my head in this god-awful movie. If whoever it was still thinks this flick is good or that TPM is worse, fine, I'm just making sure you have all the information of this trainwreck as I can give you.

>>64642979
>I agree that this happened
My point was that it was dumb. Only thing I could compare it to was a purposely ridiculous scene in an already ridiculous children's cartoon.

>but that's more of a ROTS issue
fair enough
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>>64642979
>Sounds perfectly within his character to do so
>implying he has a character
My main point was that he's clearly only in the movie to do this, and it makes no sense that he's even a senator. I suppose, if you want to say that his character is "cowardly", it makes sense, but that begs the question of why the gungans would elect a cowardly idiot to represent them to the galaxy

>Go to hell
>sir, the prisoners are escaping
>eh, whatevs
The viceroy actually says to shoot her, and Dooku literally handwaves it away, I can't make this shit up.

>so their defenses were down
...except for the super battle droids, who were clearly in the hallway.
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>>64633393

>yoda
>shoot the nearest starship

Well no shit. What else would those giant cannons be doing? You think the operators of those things were just sitting down pulling their puds waiting for some little green faggot to tell them to shoot the most obvious target in the battle?
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>>64642656

the FUCK is that? that wasn't in the movie, was it?
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>>64633438
>>64642028
Its from the film idiots
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Not sure where else to put this so Im just plugging it here
This is my theory on Rey
>Rey is a descendant of Kenobi
>she has inherited the high ground power from him
>before rey and kylo ren fight, she and finn are looking down on him from a balcony
>kylo ren later throws her up into a tree
>she has gained high ground bonus twice before she starts fighting
>isnt as good with high ground tactics yet but she stands a chance against kylo
>the chasm opens up
>she can no longer back up
>while locked against Kylo, Obi wan sends her a force message or some shit
>she realizes that she always has the high ground against Kylo, from a certain point of view
>or maybe that she is on a high ground relative to the bottom of the pit
>kicks his ass
And as a bonus
>Luke is standing on a cliff at the end for high ground
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>>64641742
bro, whats wrong with your legs
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>>64646261
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>64646286
I hope you didn't spend too much time on that
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>>64646299
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V > IV > III=VI > I > II > TFA
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>>64646718
>6=3
Guys, we get it, you're very funny. haha I am laughin, trolled hard, and what not. good job.

But please, it's getting old.
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>>64633776
The big thing I like about TPM over AotC and RotS is its use of on-location sets. Not every last scene is blue or green screen.
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