Is it safe to assume that by the events of Episode 7, the New Republic had already been in decline for some time, with the First Order riding a general wave of discontent and uncertainty?
Seems like the Order was already on its way to being the most dominant political force in the galaxy, with the Republic maybe never actually taking off because its leaders were only any good at being resistance fighters, unable fill the power vacuum and return the old system to its former glory. They may have even intentionally tried to be less centralized so people wouldn't think they were forging yet another empire.
This would help explain why the Resistance was probably the only major force left opposing the Order, with secret backing by a waning, impotent and woefully disorganized Republic.
That was my impression anyway. Seems like the Republic went too soft on former Imperials and other renegade threats, while not being all that effective at governing themselves.
Without strong and decisive leadership, systems eventually started turning back to fascism.
>>64459693
Nobody will seriously discuss this film on this board.
>>64459748
What film? All I saw was a flick
>>64459693
the politics of the film was vague because politics is BORING ASS SHIT to gen audiences.
the answer to all your questions are:
doesn't fucking matter, whatever you want, and shut up and enjoy the kids flick.
>>64459693
You're trying hard to introduce substance in a JJ movie. Good fucking luck.
>>64459797
See? This is what I mean
>>64460055
He's actually not far off.
>>64459865
>film
stopped reading there
>>64459693
That makes perfect sense OP
Bruh they had the economic and industrial strength to make a PLANET SIZED DEATHSTAR, when the entire might of the empire could only do moon sized dinky winks,
Dude If you're so interested in the shit politics, just buy the millions magazines and novels they'll release, I bet they'll say whatever you want to hear there. Myself I am only interested to see if TR-8R will come back.
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>>64459693
>Is it safe to assume that
this is what happens when you rely on nostalgia instead of quality writing
>>64459693
>Every single Republic ship is in one place where it can be conviently destroyed
Bravo Abrams.
>>64460184
Anyone care to explain to me how a resistance can form before an assault on the new republic?
From what I understand, after the Battle of Endor, the Rebel Alliance caught the Empire on their back foot. A few major Rebel victories later (for example, the Battle of Jakku) and in-fighting among the remaining Imps paved way for the establishment of the New Republic, with the remaining Imperials forced into being stunted remnant governments over the last few areas they controlled.
The First Order stems from a portion of those Imperial remnants that decided to fuck off with this new government and established a presence in uncharted galaxy (likely why the Republic doesn't acknowledge or perhaps even notice the construction of Starkiller base).
After peace ostensibly takes over, Mon Mothma (I think) signs an accord to demilitarize, reducing the fleets of the Republic by over 90%. The entirety of the New Republic fleet being destroyed on Hosnian Prime isn't that far-fetched when you consider they may have only had like 5-10 flagships left.
According to Jar Jar, after the events of TFA, The First Order is now the largest organized military presence in the galaxy.
>>64460497
>According to Jar Jar, after the events of TFA, The First Order is now the largest organized military presence in the galaxy.
That is so fucking stupid I'm at a loss for words.
What was the fucking point of the OT now? Everything they accomplish has been undone so the new diversity squad can re accomplish it. Fuck JJ.
>>64460383
See
>>64460184
They were being demilitarized but the fleet that got obliterated was the bulk of the regional forces.
Basically there were other Republic ships but none of them were close enough to help stop Super Death Star before it blew up the Resistance base.
>>64460544
>what's the fucking point of every star wars story ever if the bad guys are just going to make a comeback?
It's like your only exposure to this setting is the OT and TFA.
>>64460544
Well they're the largest military force. The galaxy is still governed by the New Republic. The Resistance is probably the last line of defense of democracy now. Also we can assume the remnant Imperials are on the side of "good", insofar as TFO are Afghanistan and the Resistance are the Mujahideen.
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>>64460486
>Anyone care to explain to me how a resistance can form before an assault on the new republic?
They were the resistance in a sector that the First Order was dominating.
The Republic, like its predecessor, was too bureaucratic, fragmented and decentralized to effectively contain it.
Which makes sense because they probably wouldn't want to the galaxy thinking they were just forming a new empire. They just went a little too far in the opposite direction.
>>64460628
Except we are quite literally in the exact same damn place we were at Episode 4 you tremendous faggot.
Even in the EU the New Republic stuck around for more than 30 fucking years and Luke actually managed to rebuild the goddamn Jedi Order.
>>64460634
>Implying they're not going to just have the First Order once again retake control so they can keep ripping off the OT.
>>64460544
You realize this is has been a common pattern throughout human history right?
Are you going to say the Nazis coming to power just 20 years after WW1 also made that war pointless?
>>64460716
Sheev was right.
>>64460741
>literally
You have to be 18 to post.
>>64460184
>watches the First Order
>not called the Watchers or the Observers
The name Resistance still makes no sense
>>64460803
It was a regional resistance.
A proxy for the Republic, like how the Afghans were America's proxy during the Soviet-Afghan war.
>>64460785
If he wasn't blowing up planets, I'd have a hard time figuring out why he was a villain.
