Anakin, my allegiance is to the Republic.
TO DEMOCRACY!
THEN YOU ARE LOST
Fuck you guys I like this part.
What I told you was true...from a certain point of view
THE DEMOCRACY was a good friend
I HATE YOU, GOOD FRIEND
>>64451324
>allegiance to democracy
wut
>>64451324
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW DEMOCRACY IS WRONG. #FEELTHEBERN
I've heard that in the German dub, Obiwan's line translates as "Only a sith deals in such radical statements".
Which is a lot better.
>>64451371
I like it to, you can still like the meme parts of the movie.
>Anakin, Chancellor Palpatine is Sheevil!
What did Obi-Wan mean by this?
>>64451650
He says that line later
In english it's "absolutes"
>>64451371
I actually liked the entire scene. It's so bad it's good.
>>64451324
Best one of theseries
At first I thought that scene was shit (I still do) but after learning so much about the Star Wars universe and its characters through various other media, it now makes me feel those feels you know
>>64451324
but that democracy resulted in sheev being elected to supreme big guy or whatever the title was.
>>64451324
THIS IS THE END FOR YOU MUH MASTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHJHHHHHHHHHH
>>64451854
>supreme big guy
I liked it. Stuff actually happened in this scene
https://www.youtube.com/watchv=7SqTR0DorSw
Y O U N G L I N G S
HAYDENS A GOOD ACTOR GUYS
It's like episode 3 is so bad it's good
BANE, RA'S AL GHUL IS EVIL!
>>64451854
democucks will say he did it by corrupting the system but him being able to do that is also systems fault
>>64452059
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THE FLIGHT PLAN IS EVIL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xP3fI7yn5s
>you will try
Why does Anakin say this line so fucking weird? It's always bothered me.
>>64451650
No, it really isn't. It has the same problem as the first line. He's saying that ONLY a sith deals in absolutes/radical statements, which is in itself an absolute/radical statement.
The line is stupid for that reason, I don't know why you thought it was stupid.
>>64452071
by this point in the movie democracy is over, it's an empire due to the need for a "strong leader"
same thing happened before the fall of rome
>>64452169
Removing the word only would fix that issue but still, you get his point. The word was present to contrast with a Jedi, and to tell Anakin firmly that he is acting like a Sith.
>>64452216
>before the fall of rome
600 years before it in fact
>>64451956
what a lovely lovely webm
>>64452169
It's the same as saying "only a sith uses the dark side"
>>64452266
yeah after consideration it was a silly comparison it's not like rome was very democratic anyway
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND
>>64452151
Hayden is a bad actor.
So how do you say that only sith deal in absolutes without using an absolute?
>from my point of view the jedi are evil!
How did this make the final cut? It honestly sounds like they just wrote it the vaguest possible character arc motivation line in an early draft for Anakin and somehow they never came up with anything better.
He may as well have just said, "no ur shit faggot" or "I know u are but what am I"
>>64452401
You say that Sith deal in absolutes.
>>64451682
in a deleted scene general grievous reveals to obi-wan that sheev is just a nickname and palpatine's full first name is "sheevil", which is how obi learns that sheev's a sith lawd
>>64452401
AT SOME POINTS SOME SITHS MIGHT HAVE DEALT IN CATEGORICAL STATEMENTS IN MY HUMBLE AND PERSONAL OPINION
>>64451324
Tell that to Kanjiklub
>>64452216
I'm pretty sure it's an allegory to Weimar rather
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW SHEEV IS DEMOCRACY.
>anakin wtf man I'm sorry I fucked up I didn't realise you were becoming so lame aye sorry bruv my bad
>I fucken should have guessed the jedi were a bunch of dumb cunts
>oi nah man sheevs a fucken retarded dumbass man
>nah I reckon you are aye
>well your fucked too then
>>64452636
wew
>>64451854
except he was supposed to give up his powers after Grevious death, instead he used the clones (an army created without the approval of the democracy) to kill the jedi and seize power
>NOW I THINK YOU A SITH
>THROW A WATTO NIGGA IN A DITCH
>NO SAND BITCH
>FUCKIN YOUR JEDI BOYS
>YOU LITTLE MAGGOT
>ANAKIN TURN FAGGOT
>>64452401
How about just remove the stupid idea that absolutes are an inherently evil thing to use?
>>64452995
the problem is using ONLY absolutes tho
>>64452995
They're not inherently evil but they are pretty stupid and can be used to justify some pretty evil things
>Only a sith deals in such absolutes
wow that was hard
>>64453214
>only a sith deals in extreme ideas that I don't like
>>64452413
there is nothing wrong with that line
HE ISSSSS THE TRAITTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>64451628
Underrated post. Tbh senpai.
>>64452802
are you retarded?they voted on keeping the army,using it and even making more. sheev made a set up where it looked like jedi were taking over and activated a legal order in every clone to kill the jedi should they ever try to take over. I also don't recall if the news of Grevious death even reached the core before the jedi rushed sheevs office
I feel like Revenge of the sith could have been a great movie if they just cut most of the dialog and let the soundtrack carry the movie, the few scenes with little to no dialog are pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25GKkfXJUVU
>>64453324
NO......HE....IS......THE......TRAITOR.......AHHHHHHHHHHH!
>>64453411
of course they said ok after the war had started you fucking retard
>>64453411
>look like
The Jedi were taking over and were the real traitors.
>>64452151
>Hayden, just say every line like you're constipated
>Got it, Mr. Lucas
>>64453470
>implying they would not create an army
>>64453472
from a certain point of view
>>64453413
How about if they just got some dialogue which wasn't utter ass
in truth it was never going to be a good movie when it had to carry the weight of the last two's mistakes in a continuing narrative arc
>>64453504
kek implying lucas ever gave directions to his actors
>>64453472
>taking over
>for arresting the guy that started the whole mess
Daily reminder
>Republic
>1000 years or more of peace
>Sheev
>40 or more years of costant war
All the problems from the Phantom Menace were started by Palpatine.
Without him
>no Naboo crisis
>no war
>no fall of the republic
>instead peace just like the past
Don't listen to edgy teens going arond saying he did the right thin, they are /pol/tards that love fascism even if they have never lived under a fascist government
why do people who use the dark-side literally call it "the dark side"
like why and how could someone who is convinced the "dark side" of the force isn't evil still be calling it "the dark side of the force"
it's so dumb
>>64452419
>only white people are racist
>>64453692
>implying republic was not about to fall
>implying it was not shit for rim worlds
>implying trade federations ships being raided would not have happened without sheev
>>64453761
because dark != evil. its a cultural thing
>>64453614
He did, though. He directs them to act like shit. You can see it in the behind-the-scenes extras.
>>64453899
>>implying republic was not about to fall
no indication of that
>>implying it was not shit for rim worlds
no indication of that
>>implying trade federations ships being raided would not have happened without sheev
they have an army that can wage war on multiple planets at the same time, I am sure they could have guarded their stuff better
I wonder if Disney has the balls to
redo eps 1 through 3 after Lucas dies.
>>64454032
if they do they may as well just redo the whole fucking thing and then 7 through 9 as well to fit with their new cast
>>64451324
If your allegiance is to democracy, then shouldn't you be supporting Palpatine? He WAS elected you know. You might not agree with what he's doing, but if you were TRULY loyal to democracy, you'd accept it anyway.
>>64451324
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZD-6B1S3qA
>>64453761
Photo printers use darkrooms but they don't call it righteousrooms or something.
>>64454016
>they have an army that can wage war on multiple planets at the same time, I am sure they could have guarded their stuff better
people who have not seen the movie need to shut the fuck up. the droid army was not legal the whole problem of the federation was that the republic would not let them have an army to guard the ships.
>no indication of that
did slavery not give it away?'
>>64454032
they will redo them while he lives and they will make him watch
>>64454032
They're already redoing the OT starting with ANH
>>64452151
>people unironically claim this is better than TFA
>>64451656
Let's not start an argument about exactly WHY these movies are stupid.
We're not Mr. Plinkett.
>>64454090
>If you were loyal to democracy, why wouldn't you be blindly supporting a single leader who has changed the governing system to one which means he can no longer be dethroned by democratic procedures
I can't tell if you're baiting or just silly
>>64451371
m8 the prequels are fucking great, literally the only people who trash them are reddit/facebook tier people terrified to have an opinion
>>64454134
and they were right considering the army was used for war and not for protection
>slavery
Tatooine is not part of the republic
>>64454180
Fuck off disney shill
>>64454200
>terrified to have an opinion
Having the opinion that the prequels are a load of poorly-acted awfully scripted shitshows is having an opinion, friend. It's just not an opinion that you like.
>>64452413
sorry, it's not a ebin one liner to zing around with friends xDDD faggot
>>64454195
until he makes the change you can't touch him and the jedi did not wait.
>>64452151
God those over choreographed saber fights are so bad.
>>64454240
im specifically telling you that you don't have an opinion, you have someone elses
sorry it hit a nerve
>>64454210
>Tatooine is not part of the republic
Do you think all slaves are just born on Tatooine or that they all stay there?
>>64454210
>and they were right considering the army was used for war and not for protection
they asked for it because the republic was not willing to protect them by making their own force
>>64454195
He was democratically elected to that position, and granted extra emergency powers by the Senate. It's 100% legal.
>>64454333
Have you ever heard of the word cognitive dissonance?
>>64454180
sup reddit
>>64454416
english might be your second language, but please reread what I wrote >>64454333
>>64454416
which word cognitive or dissonance
>>64454371
>legal =! democratic
>>64454416
>cognitive dissonance
helloooo reddit!
>>64454306
>OT duels
>mindlessly whack eachother with glowing sticks
>PT duels
>actually use the force in duels by backflipping and reacting at superhuman speeds
>>64454486
>It's not democratic just because I don't like the outcome
>>64454440
It's ok, I understand you're being retarded for the sake of being retarded. No more needs to be said.
>>64451602
>having an allegiance to a process where 50% are below median intelligence and make knee-jerk retard decisions
>literally the kind of retards who voted Sheev unlimited emergency powers and brought about the dissolution of the Senate
>to thunderous applause, no less
>yfw Anakin did nothing wrong
>>64454180
b-but TFA has a spearchucker
>>64454486
emergency powers are a real thing in democratic govs. he should have only been attacked when he proclaimed his intent to dissolve the republic and start an empire since subverting/advocating forcible change of the system of governance is not allowed.
>>64453761
The sith embrace the term dark side, they consider those who cant walk the path to be weak.
>>64452151
man this fight was pretty fucking awesome, i don't understand why people hate them so much.
Yes it doesn't feel like a real life sword battle but thats because its fantasy, its like saying
>oh this magic feels unreal, how can they throw fire and water like that!
>>64454595
he was the sith behind the entire war, at that point they knew it and that's why they were arresting him
>>64454200
this 2bh
>>64454710
no one gives a shit. thats not how democracy works, small group of monks does not storm the presidents office because he pull the country into war, they take that evidence to the senate and call for impeachment
>>64455029
>small group of monks does not storm the presidents office because he pull the country into war, they take that evidence to the senate and call for impeachment
Lmao that's exactly what Anakin said.
It doesn't work because Sheev IS the Senate.
>>64454538
if you have nothing to say, don't post
>>64455205
if you have nothing to say, don't post
>>64455029
>small group of monks
They're literally the peacekeeping and police force of the Republic. They absolutely have to power to arrest someone attempting to gain sole power
>>64451324
I love DEMOCRACY
>>64451324
I don't get this scene.
Especially when he's all "You were my brother, Anakin!"
It doesn't make sense because Obi-Wan had never been to Tatooine and Shmi had never left so how could they both be her sons?
I mean maybe he means half-brother but Shmi says there was no father and we take that to mean that Anakin was conceived by the Force.
But Obi-Wan couldn't have been conceived by the Force or everyone would've thought he was the Chosen One before they ever met Anakin.
See what I mean? It just doesn't make sense for them to be brothers.
And it's even weirder because he's like "You WERE my brother" like they can just stop being brothers or whatever.
It's not like changing to the Sith changes your DNA so I have no idea what the hell he was even on about.
Did you guys pick up on this?
>>64454371
This
> b b but it's only democracy when the jedi get what they want
Daily reminder that the jedi are a secret society that manipulates politics and a religious cult.
>>64452151
That was my favorite line in the movie just cause he said it like that. Like "you dumbass, you have no idea what you're getting into"
>>64455249
Here's your reply
>>64454538
mate im literally telling you to read it because youre rambling on about meme terms when im telling you something about yourself so nobody else has to
>>64455029
except they were put in charge of stopping the war and as generals of the army so they had every right to go and stop the guy that was the real mind behind the war and the threat to the republic
>>64455176
they did not even try. + even if sheev is the Senate getting it out in the open would have given them public outcry.
>>64455249
Mediocre
>>64454371
You don't understand how these things work and I am sure you are american.
>>64455233
no they are under the control of the republic but they are not its police.
>>64452151
what bugs me is hayden's bad acting, some of it's good, but you can totally tell they're behind a green screen.
>>64455355
They're not under control, they specifically tell sheev to fuck off when he appoints Anakin at the council
>>64455313
military coup is not a democratic action
>>64455313
They were already going to arrest him before they knew he was a sith. They're traitors
>>64455392
yet I recall Anakin being appointed to the council and being spited by being denied the religious aspect of rank
>>64455439
That's wrong, but keep memeing
>>64455355
They are not its sole police force, but they did have police authorities, incluidng making arrests. Learn your shit
>>64455445
They appointed him so he would spy back on Sheev didn't they?
>>64455392
The Jedi Order thereafter served as a strictly peacekeeping organization, maintaining law and order during a thousand years of peace under the rule of the Galactic Senate. During the Battle of Geonosis, however, the Jedi took on the responsibility of the Republic army, and became military leaders to fight the Confederacy of Independent Systems in the Clone Wars
>>64455439
>literally a scene where they agree that 'If sheev doesn't relinquish powers after news of Grievous' death we'll have to arrest him"
>anakin discovers he a sith lord, tells Dindu and they immediately hop onto a gunship to arrest him
>>64455029
They do have the power when they are the most senior level of law enforcement in the Republic, and he has literally
confessed to Anakin to being behind everything.
If Bush went to the FBI and proclaimed that he did 9/11 they would arrest him, or at least investigate him.
>>64455527
so they hunt him for his religious beliefs?
>>64455554
>they would arrest him
was windu going to arrest him and take him to the senate? I recall worlds like "too dangers to be left alive" flying around.
>>64455527
his special powers, the one he had only because of the war
>>64455565
no because they knew the sith was the leader behind the CIS and the war
>funny threads making fun of how shitty the prequels were
>even if you enjoyed them, everyone could recognise they were poorly made and meme about them
>now you instantly get contrarians arguing with you over the slightest joke
>people actually argue the prequels are good because the new movie came out
>this isn't a joke
/tv/ is really losing it
We don't even have competent people here anymore, just retarded kids from /v/. If you honestly think the prequels are better made films than the OT or TFA you have legitimate problems
>>64455565
Well he did attack them and kill all 4 of them
Poor oppressed siths they didnu nuffin he was a good boi he was on his way to the sith sacrifice shrine when da evil jedi tried to arrest him
>>64455595
That wasn't the original plan. Actually before that I think he tells Sheev "The senate will decide your fate". I think Dindu just was super pissed, which kind of fits with his backstory in the EU which basically said he sometimes comes dangerously close to dark side shit.
>>64455565
Do you think the military wouldn't raid the white house if they discovered Obama is an ISIS sympathizer?
>>64451371
nah I like it too, especially the end where obi is brought to tears, still hits me hard
>>64455636
>his special powers, the one he had only because of the war
that does not nullify them
>>64455644
for sheev
>>64455692
Well it went
>arrest him with your 3 jedi master bros
>he fucking kills them all
>you manage to best him
>try to arrest him tell him he'll be judged
>he starts trying to electrocute you
He WAS too dangerous to be left alive
>>64455644
See you were making a reasonable post but then you had to fucking mention TFA
Fuck off
>>64455757
yes they would not
>>64452151
desu senpai that was pretty a visceral attempt at murder at 2:14 on obiwan's part
if the fight was slower and had more of those heavy hits it would have been a lot better
>>64455757
BUT HE GOT ELECTED
THIS MEANS HE COULD BE THE PRESIDENT OF SOME OTHER STATE AT THE SAME TIME AND DECLARE WAR ON THE USA AND IT WILL BE FINE BCAUSE IT WAS ELECTED AND YOU HAVE TO RESPECT THAT
>>64451324
>a member of an ancient religious group that is governed by an oligarchic council of elders cares about democracy
>>64455808
The LEADER of ISIS and the architect of all terrorism.
There, better now?
lmao this nigga still refuses to read what i wrote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJrlezLvWnU
he was a good friend
>>64455909
still not. thats not how it works,its like saying "If a guy was on death row and the warden(and the whole prison) knew he was innocent don't you think he would stop his execution?"
>>64455803
You're wrong. TFA was a peice of shit, but it was better than any of the prequels
>>64455909
please just fuck off back to reddit holy fuck man
>>64455644
>contrarian
>calling everything a meme
>bitching like a women because you don't like what someone on the internet wrote
checks out folks, heres reddit!
Reminder Ewan McGregor literally carried the prequels
>>64456064
Why is this board so obsessed with Reddit?
>>64455219
you would understand why I posted that if you'd read what you were replying to
but thanks for letting us know you (once again) have nothing to say but felt the need to post
>>64456050
You see I recently watched the prequels in a stream with /tv/, and it was one of the most fun moments of my life
Meanwhile TFA was a sterile piece of modern Disney shit with no fun or meme value at all, the two "best" memes to come out of it are that kanjiclub shit and a fucking stormtrooper saying traitor and beating a main character before being shot
This is why I like the prequels, and hate TFA
@64456160
hello reddit, please keep whining it really helps you fit in here
>>64456188
The prequels have memes because they are so bad it's funny. It's good that there are only 2 dumb memes from TFA.
>>64455889
They're "Knights of the Republic", they're like the shock troops of democracy even if their internal structure isn't democratic.
>>64456270
It would be good if it was a good movie, but it's not, so it's not
And good job getting my point
>>64456285
>they're like the shock troops of democracy even if their internal structure isn't democratic.
kek
>>64454200
That and people who want character driven movies without huge massive amounts of characters doing things that make no sense, not shitty love stories, no dumb action, and a plot
>>64454240
did you even read what he wrote?
>>64456270
>The prequels have memes because they are so bad it's funny.
why does reddit insist on repeating this as if everyone will go along with it once it's posted enough?
>>64455644
The prequels are better than TFA, but not even close to as good as the OT, obviously.
>>64456344
people who actually think the prequels are good should go back to reddit
>>64451956
>This daring synthesis
Why does every planet in the Star Wars universe have breathable air?
>>64456527
They don't settle non-breathable planets I assume
>>64453692
>implying fascism is bad
>what a reddit opinion
>>64456527
midichlorians
>>64456527
no one said that every planet in the Star Wars universe has breathable air
>>64452151
Real answer is because Lucas wanted Star Wars to feel like a stage play. He's trying to capture the magic of the pulp sci-fi he grew up with.
>>64456527
They don't visit the planets without breathable air.
>>64456257
Ooops sorry, I only lurk on /co/
>>64456697
>>64456737
Why does every single sentient race in the Star Wars universe breathe the same air?
>>64456527
Fun fact: Plo Koon's species can't breath oxygen, which is why they have to wear those masks
>>64456774
That's a story for another time.
>>64456774
All the life in the galaxy originated from the same planet millions of years ago, the precursors colonized other planets with terraforming and then evolved independently, creating all "alien" races.
>>64456774
they don't/
>>64456774
midichlorians
>>64456774
I don't remember much about it, but I read a long time ago that basically only 2 types of life are possible, carbon-based breathing oxygen at temperatures around 20 degrees, and ammonia-based breathing I don't know what gas at temperatures of below 100 or 200
>>64457077
its fiction. everything can exist,including silicon lifeforms.hell they have sentient robots and the fish people can't stay topside for long.
>>64457192
Even fiction has a root in science, but I don't disagree with you
The EU has sentient force crystal shards using robot armours to move around being trained to become jedi knights btw
>>64457077
>life AS WE KNOW IT
>>64457291
Life as we know it is carbon-based, the ammonia thing is just a theory of what could be, but hasn't been observed yet
>>64457249
and telepathic plants
>>64456315
I bet you loved TFA
Is Obi-wan a republican voter?
>>64457400
Life is just self-replicating molecules, so there's nothing preventing life from not being carbon-based.
Reminder that Mace Windu was going to literally kill Sheev because he was "too dangerous to be left alive."
Reminder that the Jedi launched an illegal coup attempt against the democratically elected Chancellor.
>>64457632
THIS IS NOT HOW BIOLOGY WORKS
>>64457636
hi sheev
>>64457632
Anon no
>>64457632
NIGGER
WHAT IN THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING
>>64456420
>>64456420
thanks for another non-post reddit
>>64457249
>Even fiction has a root in science
hello reddit!
>>64455565
SITHLAM IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE
>>64452151
I mean I give props to Ewan and Hayden for learning all those spins and shit but it just seems so silly and forced
Like "Well, this fight is supposed to be epic, so instead of creating proper atmosphere, mood, and visceral saber fighting, lets have them swing their sticks around like monkeys"
Fucking Lucas man, guy needs people to vet his shit
>>64458365
cringed
please reread what you wrote
>>64456315
>samefagging because you got btfo for being reddit
sad
