The prequels were like the outline for a good movie, ruined by weird details. How would you fix them if you had to end up at the same point, and use the same general characters and themes?
I don't think the long-winded scenes with Padme were necessary
or really, even the dialogue, John Williams' theme for their romance is so fucking infatuating it does the magic on its own, just show some bed/kissing scenes and shit
>anakin is actually banned from seeing padme by the jedi council
>anakin is actually thoughtful, not a hothead
>jedi order is outdated in its asceticism and disallows the true use of the force
Anakin isn't some angsty punk, he's a legitimately heroic individual introduced at a late age to a world that bothers him, on both sides.
He grows up on a backwoods planet that is NOT Tatooine, where he spends most of his time working in a mine, or helping around the house for his mother, Shmi, and her sister, Beru, who are maids for the baron who owns essentially the planet, keeping it from growing.
He has no knowledge of the Republic, because there is no education on this awful place, having left the Republic long ago. He basically knows nothing, other than he's bothered constantly by voices, and swings of emotion that seem pushed from outside. He can also do things that others can't, but doesn't know how. His mother knows, but also doesn't know what to do about it, and asks him to keep it a secret.
His sister is in love with an older man who programs binary load lifters at the mine, Owen Lars, and Owen is a big advocate for Anakin using his natural skills to find a better life off planet. This small time work is offensive to Owen, and he thinks Anakin can actually get out, especially since he straight up built a star ship and can fly it like a natural (unfortunately, no hyper drive).
>>64413749
How is a thoughtful guy going to turn to the Dark Side and kill all the Jedi?
he had to be unstable to some capacity
RLM pretty much outlined how the prequels were horribly flawed and a lot of it seems to stem from George Lucas's horrible ideas.
Looking back at the original trilogy, Lucas had a lot of help especially from his wife that eventually turned the movie from a shitfest to classic.
>>64413619
Make either Maul or Dooku be Sidious's main apprentice that lives through I and II before getting killed in III by rage Anakin.
Make Grievous show-up in II and make him more badass.
Make the space battle scene over Coruscant longer, and have it occur in the middle of III instead of the beginning.
Make Anakin's fall to the dark side less abrupt. Have Sheev start convincing him in Episode II.
Forget Midichlorians.
You can keep Jar Jar, as long as he's actually a competent, serious warrior and opts to stay on Naboo instead of going with the gang to Tatooine in Episode I.
>>64413792
well, i guess the answer would be that he goes through some PTSD while fighting in the clone wars
he can see the jedi philosophy is corrupt at the core due to the clinging onto outdated beliefs from 2000 years ago, and the hypocritical lies of golden boy obi wan finally gets to him
>>64413749
You're going pretty close to where I'd go. Which makes me think this has to be obvious.
In his teenage years, Anakin is found by a party stopping by his planet out of necessity (more on that elsewhere). The three Jedi -- something Anakin has never heard of -- leading the party are drawn to him immediately. Two of them think this is a dangerous situation, but one, Qui-Gon, feels he's the most powerful force sensitive individual he's ever met, and finds his mother. He learns from his mother that there is no father, and begins to suspect this is the Chosen One, something his companions -- Obi-Wan and Kit Fisto -- don't even believe is a real thing.
Anakin wants to leave the planet, too, but his mother is terrified. It's Owen who talks her in to letting him go, and Anakin insists his mother go, too.
The appearances of an unknown threat results in an attack on the city and the death of the Governor, which seems to be all the opening Anakin and his mother need to escape, much to the relief of Owen. Along with Queen Amidala and her escorting Jedi, Anakin and Shmi travel to Coruscant.
>Dooku is introduced during the Phantom Menace in place of Sidious, to give more weight to Dooku as a villain and to better conceal Palpatine's identity as the series main villain.
>Dooku is showcased earlier in Attack of the Clones, and not brought in during the last third of the movie, going more in depth to him as a character.
>There is no Grievous in Revenge of the Sith and Dooku escapes the opening sequence. He is finally defeated by Obi-wan in place of Grievous.
The first thing to immediately come to mind is to make Anakin less of a psycho. The crazy rants he made during Attack of the Clones that almost came out of nowhere made it very difficult to sympathize with him during Revenge of the Sith.
Attack of the Clones should have spent most of the time establishing Anakin as a somewhat arrogant, but overall good lad who is a close friend of Obi Wan and may be a bit too attached to his loved ones, to the point where he can't move on without them. Maybe have one moment where Padme is threatened by someone and Anakin briefly freaks out and gets a little too rough, or something. Having him slaughter a bunch of sand people and then screaming I SLAUGHTERED THEM LIKE ANIMALS was a bit overkill. Then when Revenge of the Sith rolls around have shit really go down, maybe get Shmi killed, and his difficulty coping with that makes him vulnerable to Sheev
I dunno, just throwing out ideas I guess
>>64413996
Anakin is incredibly excited by the outside galaxy, wanting to have as much fun as possible, but is constantly watched by Qui-Gon, Kit, and Obi-Wan. Though he and Kit have a frosty relationship, Obi-Wan begins to warm up to him.
He is also immediately smitten by Amidala, who at first only sees him as a rube teenager.
Though the Jedi Council does not want to train him due to his age and power, he isn't particularly bothered. He's more wrapped up in the genocidal war the Neimodians are waging on Amidala's home planet. He wants an adventure, and also is thinking with his dick and wants to be a hero for the Queen.
Senator Palpatine, who has been on Amidala's side in trying to get the Republic to intervene in the bloodshed, insists on meeting Anakin, and the two hit it off. Palpatine forms a plan with Amidala to pull off a section of the Republic's forces to go to Naboo as a "peace keeping force." He insists Anakin -- who claims to be capable of leading a sqaudron of fighters -- be involved, and Anakin is more than happy.
Anakin watches his mother murdered by Darth Maul, but is left alone. Maul is chased off by Jedi.
Anakin, Qui-Gon, and Obi-Wan (the latter two for reasons of their own sub plots) go back to Naboo. Qui-Gon has begun training Anakin against the council's wishes, and continues as they prepare covertly to try and secure safety for the Naboo. Anakin now sees his training as not only exciting, but a way to get revenge for his mother. Maul has followed them to Naboo, but Anakin doesn't know it.
During the battle, while Anakin is in space, Maul kills Qui-Gon, who Anakin had come to adore. Obi-Wan cautions him that he needs to control his anger over losing essentially his mother and father figure to the same person, and wants to train him to protect him from going to the dark side. Anakin doesn't understand how his feelings are wrong, but still wants to learn to be a Jedi.
>Anakin is just a regular guy, no chosen one bullshit, no midichlorians
>raised a jedi, not a slave
>jedi academy is more like a college, not weird master-apprentice shit
>jedi have a lot more freedom
>Sheev is a master jedi like Yoda
>more fun characters
>more fun stories
>fun
>fun
>fun
>>64413792
No, he has to be seduced to the dark side.
>>64414301
Please continue.
Have it taking place during the Clone Wars where Anakin and Obi-Wan are battle buddies going through the shit together. Show Anakin's descent to the dark side by having him feel powerless in the face of overwhelming odds and desiring to become stronger. Show how this causes a rift between him and Kenobi. Over the coure of the movies he becomes more mechanized due to his injuries.Obi-Wan goes into exile after witnessing darkness consume his best friend. Anakin take this as a betrayal and the bitterness of it is the last thing that completes his turn to the dark side.
Also, stormtroopers are just regular Republic folks drafted into the war. The Sith are behind the clone invasion. Sheev plays both sides and takes over when victory is assured to the Republic.
>>64414308
Go fucking shit you're pants you baby!
>>64414301
In the second movie, Anakin is starting to become a part of the Jedi world, but is genuinely disturbed. He particularly bristles at the militant extremism of Mace Windu's obsession with the ancient ways of the Jedi. He is bothered by children being turned in to soldiers when they can barely walk, ripped from their homes. The only thing keeping him involved are his belief that the Force can be used to save the galaxy, and his respect for Obi-Wan.
After his heroism, he has also successfully swayed Padme, but keeps it a secret from the Jedi Order, another thing that bothers the fuck out of him.
Anakin is growing closer to now-Chancellor Palpatine, who is quietly adamant that the Jedi and their beliefs are antiquated and dangerous; that they don't use the force to its full potential. Anakin agrees, and begins to spend increasingly more time with the Chancellor.
When separatist factions from the Republic begin to band together and threaten the Republic, the Jedi begin to have to step in to combat for the first time in ages, outside of general policing they had done for safety. Anakin questions their role, wondering if they see themselves as the heads of the Republic, rather than the properly elected organization.
Out of loyalty to Obi-Wan, however, Anakin joins the war. He again runs in to Darth Maul, who he learns is a dark lord of the Sith. Maul tries to convert Anakin to become his apprentice, and explains that he has a Master, but is ready to over throw him. Anakin is interested, but some kind of plot thing I don't care about right now separates them.
When they meet again at an off-shoot of the climactic battle, Anakin ends up killing Maul in order to save Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan finds out about Anakin and Padme, and quietly reports it to the Council, not thinking he is doing anything wrong.
clones v battle droids can give some pottery about how anakin, initially fighting on the side of the clones, eventually becomes "more machine than man"
>>64414552
This is sounding like a set of movies I would enjoy.
>>64414552
Anakin quickly figures out Palpatine's secret, and has no interest in telling the Council, but wants to learn from him. He is pushed farther when Windu approaches him about Padme. Not yet willing to pick a side, but infuriated by how the Force seems only to exist in black and white, Anakin feels pulled between two sides that both seem wrong. He and Padme work out arrangements to be secretive, and Anakin prepares to fight in the Clone War.
By the third movie, Anakin has essentially become Palpatine's apprentice. He does not see eye-to-eye with Palpatine's completely selfish views of the Force, but needs alternatives to the Jedi, particularly Windu.
His friendship with Obi-Wan is becoming strained, but he has become the only Jedi that Anakin respects.
Mace Windu discovers Anakin has still been seeing Padme, and demands it end, under penalty of death. Making the choice of love over the order he has never come to respect, Anakin defeats Windu in a lightsaber duel, and is effectively done with the Jedi.
He attempts to withdraw from the order, which is not met well. Obi-Wan and his master, Yoda, express concern, the rest express hatred. Anakin realizes he and Padme are not safe, and gives himself completely to Palpatine.
Over an unspecified amount of movie time, Anakin becomes stronger as he begins unwittingly to fully embrace the dark side. His relationship with Padme becomes strained, and Palpatine gives him increasingly less justified reasons to hunt and kill Jedi. He begins referring to him as Darth Vader. Anakin begins to enjoy the power he's feeling.
The Jedi believe the prophecy of bringing balance to the Force is killing all the bad guys and leaving, "light." Palpatine thinks the prophecy is fake. The prophecy is, instead, that both sides have begun controlling the Force, and using it to push agendas. The Force needs freedom, in essentially needs a clean slate from both Jedi and Sith, which happens when Darth Vader dies on the Death Star.
>>64414007
>>There is no Grievous in Revenge of the Sith and Dooku escapes the opening sequence. He is finally defeated by Obi-wan in place of Grievous.
Or Windu, I would like to see Windu fight in the prequels if he was supposed to be second to Yoda
>>64413872
>RLM
Post discarded.
Have the Clone Wars be a bigger part of the story, and involve more human combatants not just clones. Anakin is passionate and at odds with the council, but hes still got his main nigger Obi-wan. He doesn't lose all of his limbs at once like in RotS, he loses them gradually from wounds sustained on the battlefield. This is pottery as he begins to become more pragmatic and cruel the longer the war goes on, becoming more machine than man.
>>64414552
>Anakin is interested, but some kind of plot thing I don't care about right now separates them.
Why would he be interested in joining the guy who killed his father figure and his mom?
>>64414845
How to explain that last part, I don't know. I just like the idea of Luke being left with no real knowledge or need to be Mace Windu.
Anyway, Darth Vader openly becomes an enforcer for Palpatine, who has solidified his power, declared himself Emperor, and begun controlling the galaxy. As I think about this, I think I want this to actually be in the second movie.
Vader begins to hunt and kill Jedi, becoming increasingly more ruthless with the people around him, but he refuses to go after Obi-Wan.
Padme eventually feels he is no longer the man she loved because he was hot and saved her planet, and runs away when she becomes pregnant.
Vader loses it at the loss of Padme, and begins to try and hunt her down, slaughtering anything in his way. Padme had gone to Obi-Wan for help, and reconnected with Beru. Beru and Owen had run away to Tatooine, and Padme gives them her son, and [insert other unimportant plans for daughter here], entrusting Leia temporarily to Bail Organa, who had been important, I promise.
Shortly after this, Vader finds them. He tries to convince Padme she still loves him, and asks about the children. Padme didn't know he knew -- because she's an idiot and he has Force powers -- and lies and says she miscarried. Anakin begins screaming at his wife for costing him an heir to help him kill Palpatine. The waves of dark force pushing from him begin injuring his wife, and he doesn't stop or care. Obi-Wan draws his lightsaber, and tells his friend and padawan to calm down. Vader tells Obi-Wan to back off, lest he end up like all the other Jedi he's killed, and Obi-Wan finally realizes what's been happening.
Duel.
Organa rescues Padme, and takes her away, but she dies next to Leia on the flight.
>>64415136
Hm, you're right. Not a good idea. I want him to be interested in the alternative to the Jedi, but we'll say he's interested in Maul's beliefs, just not Maul himself.
>>64415245
Anakin's motivation was originally not dark or light, but thinking both sides were pathetic. He appreciates the heroism many of the Jedi partake in, but finds the Council to be repugnant. Palpatine uses this, and only reveals the equal-but-opposite dogma of the Sith slowly.
Anakin begins to head towards the darkness, though he doesn't see it as that, purely to be with Padme, and to push away from Mace Windu. Even when he becomes Darth Vader, however, he does not intend to be a murder. However, he begins to feel the power of having fully embraced one side of the Force, and it becomes like a drug, twisting him and pulling him in farther and farther.
I see Mace Windu as the ultimate example of the other side, seduced by the light. Yes, his side is ideally selfless, but Windu sees it as power.
>>64415276
Seems good.
Pic related.
A basic outline of what I've proposed in the past
Episode I
>Anakin is 14 instead of 9 when he's found
>Jar Jar stays on the ship, Obi-Wan comes with
>Qui-Gon wins both slaves
>Maul is told by Sheev to kill the chosen one before he can become a Jedi, Maul kills Qui-Gon in their duel, tries to kill Anakin but Shimi shields him with her body, he assumes he stabbed the kid through her then runs off on his bike
>They return to Coruscant, senate goes as per original, Anakin goes before the council, Mace Windu is adamant that he can't be trained and sends him out of the chambers, Obi-Wan wants to go to Naboo to help finish what he started, council forbids him, saying that the mission has been aborted and the Jedi cannot involve themselves in war
>Pisses Obi-Wan off, he sneaks out with the Naboo
>Sheev has a pissed off conversation with Maul telling him that the kid's going to Naboo and he needs to finish what he started
>Obi-Wan trains Anakin (using Qui-Gon's saber) on the ship ride, INSTANT POETRY
>Anakin and Obi-Wan confront Maul instead
>starfighter part of the quadruple ending clusterfuck is removed, GUNGA battle is edited back
>some of the space is taken by a scene where Anakin drives a military speeder through Theed while Padme shoots things. He does at least one spin to maintain the GOOD TRICK line.
>Final duel is similar, Obi-Wan almost dies in the laser wall chamber, Anakin gets super pissed, Obi-Wan uses Qui-Gon's saber to kill Maul.
Qui-Gon wouldn't be very different. He's a very charismatic Jedi who is loyal to the order, but finds their dogma to be unnecessarily restricting and harsh.
He influences Anakin heavily from this standpoint, but he does not see anything wrong with some practices, as that's what he was raised to think.
He was trained by Yoda, and became best friends with Yoda's following and final padawan, Obi-Wan Kenobi. Obi-Wan is much more inclined to step in line than Qui-Gon, but still respects his friends rebellious tendencies.
Qui-Gon believes the Sith have returned, and think they are preying on the systems that have left the Republic, though he feels the Republic itself is failing. He agrees with Senator Palpatine that defending Naboo and gaining the support of Amidala and her family would strengthen the Republic, and privately believes it will draw out the Sith. Which is correct.
He intends merely to guide, rather than partake in, the battle on Naboo, but his section of the battle is blind-sided by Sith droids and Darth Maul, who kills Kit Fisto.
He holds his own with Maul in a lightsaber duel, frustrating the Dark Lord, who eventually unleashes dark power Qui-Gon was never trained to experience, and is killed in front of Obi-Wan.
Nah, they were flawed both on a microscopic and macroscopic level
If I were to do a complete rewrite I'd do something like this
Episode 1: opens in media res. Obi Wan and Anakin are already jedi knights fighting in the clone wars. No angsty bullshit, anakin is as he was described by Kenobi in ANH. The concept of what the clone wars are is completely rewritten, because seeing cannon fodder CGI clones vs cannon fodder CGI droids is lame.
Episode 2: the "darkest" of the prequel movies, analogous to Empire. Anakin falls to the dark side here and sheev forms the empire
Episode 3: We get to see an entire movie's worth of anakin being Darth Vader WITHOUT being in the suit, instead of the way it was done in reality, where he becomes vader and then 5 minutes later he's in the suit. Ends with a similar emotional fight between vader and obi wan, but without all the sterile choreography and 20 minute fight scenes. Overall plot is about a resistance against the newly formed empire that ends up resulting in defeat, while sewing the seeds of rebellion 20 years down the road.
>>64413619
>Anakin is already a Jedi Knight episode 1
>the Jedi and half of the republic are in open war against the sith and the other half of the Republic which is now the empire
>Anakin is in love with Padme and is secretly married to her
>episode 1 starts with Anakin and Obi Wan leading the final crusade in hopes of beating back the empire
>at the end of episode 1 they score a major victory but Anakin is thought to have been killed after he sacrifices himself for Obi Wan while killing Maul
>Epsiode 2 takes place 2 years after Epsiode 1
>opens with Obi Wan attacking an empire base and finding out that Anakin wasn't dead but captured after getting gravely wounded
>finds his location and rescues him
>Anakin reunites with Padme but is a changed man
>torture and imprisonment has cost him both his legs and made him a hard brutal man
>Anakin and Obi Wan lead an attack on another imperial planet and Anakin brutally kills Dooku
>Epsiode ends with Obi Wan and the council pondering about what Anakin is becoming
>>64415556
Wouldn't change much about Obi-Wan, just his relationships.
He starts off as a loyal little boy scout, but is influenced by Qui-Gon, and then begins to question the order when he watches them affect Anakin negatively. He begins actually to sympathize with his struggles with the rules.
He reports Padme, thinking it's the right thing to do, and regrets it when he sees Mace Windu's reaction.
He gains more and more respect for Yoda, who he at first just sees as his overbearing father figure. Yoda, however, consistently finds empathy where Windu and his friends only see rules.
He sees the Clone Wars as a chance to get away from politics and Force bullshit, and just be a hero, which he finds exhilarating. While other Jedi talk about the horrors of war and wanting to end it, he sees chances to save lives and end dangerous regimes.
He is in denial that the mysterious Jedi deaths are due to Anakin.
When he finally assaults Anakin, he doesn't see him as the same person, he sees him as a corrupt puppet of the Emperor. His apprentice would never have killed his wife or the Jedi, no matter how much they hurt him. In the end, he blames himself for Anakin's failing, and cannot bring himself to kill him. With Anakin severely wounded, he brings him to a place where Imperial forces can bring him to safety, and retreats from the galaxy, hoping that one day, Anakin can redeem himself and fulfill his prophecy.
Write a different and better script that fucking Lucas did.
>>64413792
PTSD from his mother dying, gets triggered by his nightmares of padme dying and will do anything to prevent her death as well. Seduced by palpatine. Pretty much the same plot as Lucas lmao
>>64415779
>Epsiode 3 opens with Anakin leading a merciless attack on an imperial planet that had no military presence
>gets recalled back to the republic's captial planet after they find out about his brutal actions
>comes out that he has been secretly married to Padme for the past 5 years
>due to all of his actions he gets kicked out of the order and is forced to give up his lightsaber
>Anakin distraught asks Padme to come with him who refuses due to not wanting to leave the Republic
>Anakin having lost everything becomes disillusioned with the Jedi and the Republic and feels they are to weak to rule and to do what is necessary
>he joins the sith
>sheev takes on Anakin as his apprentice and they attack the republics stronghold
>Anakin cuts his way through the Jedi while trying to find Padme to save her from the fight
>engages with Obi Wan in a lightsaber fight and during it Padme's ship which is trying to escape the fight gets shot down
>Anakin ecomes emotionally unstable and loses the fight to Obi Wan
>before Obi Wan can finish him off Sheev shows up and Obi Wan is forced to flee
>Bail finds Padme's ship and finds her near death
>Obi Wan meets up with Yoda and they flee with Bail ad they witness the Jedi and the main army of the Republic get destroyed
> the rest of republic quickly submits to the empire once their main army is destroyed
>remnants form the rebellion
>padme dies to her wounds but gives birth to Luke and Leia
>Anakin after getting burnt is forced into the suit and fully embraces the sith
>Obi Wan takes Luke to Owen who is Anakin's step brother and bail takes Leia
>>64413619
Have you ever watched the Belated Media videos about this? I think you'd enjoy them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgICnbC2-_Y&list=PL-fp6xxUEjLt1KOJXLwV-KoQ7gO_J3lrD
>>64415680
I'm the one doing all the fanfic, but I think I like your outline.
I had Anakin killing Maul as the finale, but I think I'd have it a little earlier, and have that encounter leading Anakin to discovering Palpatine's true nature, and thinking he can simultaneously learn from Palpatine and not ruin his life. It's keep a life with Padme and get away from the dogma he's come to hate.
I wouldn't have the third movie open with him as super bad guy, though. It begins with killing Windu, who is not at all a sympathetic character, and just gets steadily worse.
>>64415461
Episode II
>Starts with Obi-Wan still training Anakin out on some world finishing up a mission, Obi-Wan talks to him about the force and gives some wise words on attachment
>They get a call from the council, Padme was almost assassinated
>Proceeds similarly except Anakin is less of a fucking weirdo
>When the droid approaches the window, it tries to shoot her with a laser and not fill her vagina with centipedes, Obi-Wan deflects the blow
>Anakin jumps on the droid and Obi-Wan saves him
>Obi-Wan teaches Anakin how to find people in a crowd through the force to find the shapeshifter in the bar instead of depending on her to attack them
>Fett kills her as they're taking her into custody instead of having a stupid interrogation scene
>Obi-Wan traces the dart through the Jedi archives, Anakin takes Padme off world, disguised as ordinary travelers
>Padme takes a call from her family, they talk about her younger sisters getting married and having kids, she smiles and says how great that is as you can see her dying inside
>Anakin vents his frustrations to Padme not about Obi-Wan, but about the Jedi in general, he talks about his mother, how the Jedi don't know love, how he can't connect with them, how the masters don't trust him
>she tells him she feels the same in the senate, it's all process, no passion
>pirates attack their transport as its entering a system for a layover, Anakin and Padme work together to save the other passengers and stop the pirates
>their transport is damaged and has to stay grounded, Anakin has a dream about Obi-Wan being in trouble and Padme tells him he should trust his feelings, she buys a ship using her senatebux and they go to Geonosis
>They fuck up and get captured immediately, skipping that terrible factory scene
>final scenes are similar except Windu instead of Yoda shows up, Dooku runs and Shaft starts shouting at Anakin for putting a senator's life at risk
>Yoda comes in and tells him to calm the fuck down
>>64413872
his wife recut the movie, and was the one that told him no this is fucking terrible, retarded, and dumb, all the times his inner chris chan sperged forth
>>64413782
Good Anakin Hunting?
Wouldn't change Sheev too much, other than make him older.
He uses Maul to hunt Jedi he finds easy to pick off, enforce his agendas, and sow discord.
The Republic is bloated, inefficient, and corrupt. The result is systems leaving and its influence shrinking. That's been going on for a very long time, but systems banding together to form larger organizations is recent. Palpatine sees that they lead to war, so that once he becomes Chancellor, he can do exactly what he does in the real movies.
He finds out about Anakin when his presence is reported back to Coruscant, and wants him for his own. He orders Maul not to kill him, and begins thinking of how to corrupt and pull him over. The Council really does all the work for him, and he only needs to gently coax Anakin to his way of thinking.
He knows when Maul faces Anakin that Maul will lose, and will also spoil Sheev's identity.
After declaring himself Emperor, Sheev stops holding back on the use of the dark side. The combination of his advanced age and his manipulation begins to warp his features. I wouldn't have him go straight to Jedi in one film, just suggestion of heading that direction.
>>64415371
>>64415245
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>>64413996
MUH MOTHERFUCKING DICK
Why are yall niggas sleeping on this
>>64415935
I wish I could've seen the original version of Star Wars and how it would've been equal to the prequels.
Make Anakin and Darth Vader different characters, as Obi Wan suggested.
No Jar Jar. No Disneyfication. Make them serious, fantasyish Westerns like the original Star Wars was.
No relying on soulless CGI.
Write it myself with the HELP of good writers. I cannot believe that sand shit that Lucas put in there. Honestly.
Do not hire stupid wiener kids. I still cannot accept that the evil badass son of a bitch that chokes out losers in episode 4 is that whiny, ugly, with prick who did nothing but bitch and moan for three movies.
If there is an explanation for the force included, just give another passing remark of it being a scalar field like Yoda said.
More lightsabers colors, just so that people don't ask or assume stupid shit about the colors.
Include a detailed construction of a lightsaber.
No dumb villains. No General Grievous, Admiral Asshole, Captain Cantankerous, Major Monster, Lieutenant Lecher, or Sergeant Shithead.
REMOVE the idea of Darth *Word That Sounds Sinister* as a rule of title for the sith. Darth Vaders name is Darth Vader, as originally intended.
Stop the light and dark side shit. There's only the force. All else is the interpretation of who is using it. Remove the shit about Jedi being monks. Remove the idea that somehow giving jnto anger for a split second immediately makes a character turn into a remorseless, heartless, evil villain who acts like he had been a villain the entire time.
>>64415921
I like your pirate attacking idea. I'm going to insert that in my headfiction.
>>64416249
the first drafts were made into a TERRIBLE comic called "The Star Wars" by dark horse as a big fuck you to marvel and disney as their final star wars comic series.
read it and weep
>>64416269
grievous from the gennedy clone wars was a terrifying serial killer and butcher. the movie version was a joke
>>64416375
I was referring more about the names than the characters. That's why I added other Title Negative-Descriptive-Adjective-So-You-Know-He's-Evil names.
>>64416456
oh ok. yeah, youre right the man cant name something to save his life.
>>64416167
As with everyone else, I wouldn't kill Maul in one fucking movie. I see no need for Darth Tyranus, Maul is good enough.
But, Obi-Wan cuts his arm off in the first movie. Because it's Star Wars.
He leads an attack on Anakin's home world, told to abduct Anakin, but knowing nothing else. He doesn't confront him, but does sense him, and begins to change his plans.
He kills Shmi, in the hopes of getting Anakin to embrace the dark side, but is in too dangerous a position to confront him.
His role has become quietly killing Jedi who proverbialy stray too far from the herd, and is sent to Naboo to pick off Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. He succeeds in killing Qui-Gon by going nuclear with the Dark Side, which Qui-Gon is unprepared for, but loses to Obi-Wan and barely escapes.
In the next movie, he wants to take Anakin, and forms a constant threat. He confronts Anakin, and drops a hint about his master that Anakin is able to use to figure out it's Palpatine. He also tries to convert him, but is unsuccessful, and killed, as Anakin's first use of brutality in combat.
One of my ideas is a push of wills outside of lightsaber combat, and Anakin discovering he is so strong he can completely overcome any (invisible) defense Maul is able to put up to simply raise and force choke him without needing to lay a finger.
>>64413619
literally just rewrite 1 so its mostly the same when it comes to quigon and obi-wan, but no jar jar and have anakin already be played by hayden (teenaged)
>>64415921
I would make the assassin not be a shapeshifter, because that's dumb and OP. Make it just be some alien chick, maybe those kind that are green with freckles because they're qt.
Somebody (not me because I'm a lazy fuck) should take all of this fan fiction crap and try to mesh it into one perfect prequel trilogy without it becoming a clusterfuck.
I think right now general agreements seem to be:
- Older Anakin
- No Jar Jar
- Windu as the antithesis to Sheev, Overbearing Light versus Terrible Darkness
- Yoda/Obi-Wan/Qui-gon see the light side with more softness
- Maul gets a bigger role
- Dooky gets a bigger role
- Qui-gon still dies early on
- Better, more natural romance without the creepy shit
- This love causes Anakin to reject/get kicked out of the Jedi
- Non-suit Vader gets a bigger role
Did I miss anything?
Padme is not a senator, she's a straight-up queen from a rich family that rules Naboo. She's outrageously book smart, but also very naive.
While Anakin begins to learn about the world, she begins to become softened by leaving her castle.
She is important not as a member of the senate, but as a world that rejoins the shrinking Republic. She does so because Palpatine throws military support her way to save her planet.
After the ordeal, she abdicates, and becomes an ambassador to Palpatine, trying to win over member systems.
She falls for Anakin because she thinks he's attractive and does cool hero stuff. Not really that complicated.
My idea of her character development is that she goes from privileged stuck-up girl to warm and caring advocated for diplomacy and peace. Her actions and choices unwittingly strengthen Sheev, however. When he becomes Emperor, she continues to support him because she feels indebted to his contributions to Naboo, but eventually realizes she was a tool, and begins privately supporting what becomes the Rebellion. This leads her to become close to Bail Organa, who becomes her guy inside the system.
Make the Jedi Council actually good at their job instead of some idiots who can't tell the Sith are back.
Make Yoda less of an incompetent failure.
Remove Jar Jar because he's annoying.
Give a better reason for Anakin to turn to the dark side.
Explain where the clone army came from, somehow.
>>64416710
That's definitely the big stuff.
I'm really married to the idea of Owen having a role where he encourages Anakin going out and being part of a larger world. I want there to be a reason Luke is with the Lars's, I want there to be a reason Anakin doesn't/can't find them, and I want there to be a reason Owen feels anxious about Skywalkers leaving home.
>all these ppl who want to cut the Naboo starfighter scene in Episode 1
Why?
The N1s and Vulture Droids were some of the coolest things about the prequels.
>>64416875
forgot pic
>>64416710
No origin story for Anakin. He's already a jedi knight (or at least padawan) in Ep1
Anakin's behavior actually lines up with the things Obi Wan said about him in Ep4
Anakin is totally good in Ep1, something happens in Ep2 that makes him turn to the dark side, and in Ep3 he's a bad guy
Also, the main protagonist of the prequels should indisputably be Obi Wan. No bullshit where you can't tell who the main character is.
>>64416754
I still want Yoda vs. the Emperor, because god that was a big deal to see. I'd prefer less lightsaber, though, and more Force dickery.
Also, Yoda should actually get BTFO and realize he's no match for someone fully committed to darkness. He can hold his own and be awesome and still actually have a moment where it's clear he will not win.
Obi-Wan tells him about the children, and he sees them as their last hope. Obi-Wan suggests he go to Alderaan to watch Leia, but Yoda feels too much danger down that path, and instead intends to retreat to the strongest collection of life forms he has ever encountered in his exploration, feeling that will enhance his connection with the force, and prepare him to train the next hope for the galaxy.
>>64416875
The fight itself was fine. It just bugs the shit out of me that some shithead kid accidentally presses some buttons that makes the starfighter fly up to the space-donut and he ends up doing some lucky bullshit and accidentally saving the planet because he accidentally fired at the reactor or whatever the fuck
TPM could be instantly improved if Anakin was cast as a mid-late teen instead of a fucking 8 year old boy that couldn't act his way out of a sock drawer.
The dialogue and jar-jar was bad, but kid anakin is by far the worst part. Making him a teen could have made it much better in terms of believably and dialogue. It would also make the "romance" between him and Padme at least believable.
More Palpatine Faces. They're arguably one of the parts of the entire prequel saga.
>>64416944
Fine as long as there are no lightsabers and as long as it's done creatively. I hated how yoda was all about how "war does not make one strong" and how the emperor thought lightsabers were shitty little toys. Neither should use them, no ifs ands or buts
>>64416875
I absolutely want an Anakin-led starfight in Episode 1.
My vision is the Nemoidians are butchering the Naboo as an ethnic cleansing of neighboring systems,but don't have a particularly great fleet or military. Palpatine quietly gives them a defense force that isn't much, but capable of standing up to what is sitting outside their planet.
Anakin leads the fight, and takes out their capital ship. In much less stupid and coincidental fashion.
Could be similar designs, if you like.
>>64417011
Agreed.
I mean, "if so powerful are you, why leave?" was great, but agreed.
>>64413619
He was miscast
>>64413619
it's simple
just have the dialogue not be directed at kids
>>64416915
I think some anons liked having some sort of inclusion of the Lars family or Shmi with Anakin's backstory...I could take it or leave it, so long as if they keep it, it's compelling without taking up too much screen time. Having his mother leave the planet but die due to the inaction or wrongful action of the Jedi might work...
More focus on Obi-Wan would be great, but I'd really like more of the Anakin/Obi-Wan bromance to be explored. Really make it hurt when Obi-Wan realizes he needs to stop Vader.
>>64416538
Oh, also, Maul enters in to the climactic battle the same way. Same music, same stance, same reveal. Qui-Gon still says, "we'll handle this."
That's something TPM got not just right, but perfect. That moment where Duel of the Fates kicks in and the door opens is the best part of the movie.
I dare you to disagree.
>>64417116
Unpopular opinion: I had the chills during that moment in TPM, and the same chills in TFA when Rey activates the lightsaber in front of Kylo Ren. That dramatic music swell combined with two sides facing each other down is like a drug for me.
>>64417116
That's true. And the fight itself would've been fucking amazing if it wasn't that stupid choreographed shlock that the prequels are plagued with.
>>64417116
Darth Maul shows up, Qui Gomm disrobes and says let's dance. Everyone gets wine coolers and zimas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0qH2IaSjEU
>>64417235
Nope, the Skywalker theme swelling up when she ignites the lightsaber is fucking awesome. Absolutely fucking awesome.
And then immediately my head goes to the interrogation scene, because it's the same arrangement as the death of the Lars, and when it cuts out, that's what happens next in my mind.
Cast someone who can actually fucking sound like James Earl Jones as Anakin. At the very least he should have the same psuedo English accent
>>64417116
>JJ gets the guys from The Raid to come in
>doesn't take the opportunity to craft a fight that would put the Maul 2v1 to shame
What a fucking moron.
>>64417437
No, the fight in 7 is better, the music just isn't better.
>>64417280 is right about the choreographed shit. And deus ex canyon is still significantly better than random laser walls.
>>64417413
should've looked like this desu
Also, I think it was a huge mistake to try to make Anakin the protagonist in the prequels. I know Lucas is fond of saying that the whole saga is really Anakin Skywalker's story, but even if it is, using a more relatable main character (i.e. Luke) to give the audience a way in worked beautifully in the OT. The way he's portrayed in the films as they are, there's precious little relatable about Anakin, so no one really cares what happens to him. Obi-Wan should have been our main guy. We already know him from the OT, he's close enough to Anakin that we can still get that complete story if we're following him, and the nature of his character arc is something much more relatable. "Failing a loved one, resulting in a painful dissolution of the relationship" is something I'm willing to bet a lot more people have experience with than "being tempted to evil by the promise of occult techniques to achieve immortality". Even though if I had the choice I'd tear down everything about the prequels and start from scratch, I think just shifting the focus like that would massively improve the films that we actually got.
I tried putting together bits and pieces of what I read from others. I might be way off...
Episode 1:
>Open with teenaged Anakin and family working hard for a living but with little knowledge of the universe outside of their planet. Anakin always felt different and dreamed of something bigger. During his spare time he tinkered with vehicles and trained himself as an semi-adept pilot.
>Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan arrive on Anakin's planet to refuel before heading to Corusant.
>Some strange plot device involving something like space pirates causes Anakin to get involved.
>The Jedi become aware of Anakin's intense connection to the Force, leading Qui-Gon to consider the prophecy.
>Since their home was destroyed in the skirmish, the entire Skywalker family is invited to join the Jedi on the trip to the Corusant.
>Could include the Lars family in here as Anakin's stepfather and half-sister. They would later relocate to Tattooine using funds from the Jedi, or as a result of the accidental death of Shmi that will take place in Episode 2.
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In ESB, we're shown that R2D2 can pilot an X-wing by himself, so why the fucking can't he control the Naboo Starfighter and make it go back to the landing pad instead of just sitting there and allowing a little boy to fly off into a dangerous space battle?
>>64413619
The only thing that ruined the prequel to me was that it was too much of a kids movie. I really liked how JJ tried to make it grim dark
I would basically just make anakin follow the same route caedus did. in his attempt to save everyone he turned to the dark side to gain more power.
>>64418394
>Very little time spent in the Senate or discussing the Senate
>The Jedi outright refuse to have Anakin trained, and Qui-Gon begins to train him secretly
>Mace Windu is a hard-line, Puritanical Jedi; Yoda takes a more empathetic approach and is actually stronger in the Force than Windu.
>Palpatine is to be brought from the Senate back to Naboo with Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan and observes some of Anakin's training, befriending him and offering advice (seeds of doubt) during their travel.
>Some great scenes take place between Obi-Wan and Anakin, playing them off like brothers.
>They meet Queen Amidala who is initially smitten with Anakin, as they are the same age. Obi-Wan notices this and warns Anakin privately.
>Something happens, the Battle of Naboo begins
>No Gungans
>Darth Maul appears and fights Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan, while Anakin protects the Queen and watches the fight. (Duel of Fates)
>Maul overpowers both Jedi and kills Qui-Gon. Obi-Wan and Anakin rage out and attack Maul.
>Anakin, tapping into some dark-side power, dis-arms (literally) Maul, who makes a hasty escape.
>Anakin and Obi-Wan then join in the space battle and helps lead them to victory.
>Obi-Wan returns to the Council ask to train Anakin, stating he had never sensed this kind of power before, and that without proper training, he could become dangerous. Windu wants to kill him outright, causing Obi-Wan to challenge Windu. Yoda calms them both down, and agrees to let Obi-Wan train Anakin.
>At Qui-Gon's funeral, Amidala gives Anakin a kiss on the cheek as a thank you for saving her.
>>64418471
>At Qui-Gon's funeral, Amidala gives Anakin a kiss on the cheek as a thank you for saving her.
awwww
>>64418459
Because it was on autopilot. Did you even watch the flick?
>>64418533
Gotta plant that last little glimmer of hope. I was picturing it kind of like the award ceremony at the end of Episode IV.
>>64418564
Adorable.
>>64418471
Gungans and humans should be the main inhabitant of Naboo. Jar Jar should ironically be a well developed character leading the Gungans alongside Anakin in the Battle of Naboo.
>>64413619
>everyone tries to rewrite the prequels
>basically comes up with the same thing anyway
how can everyone continue to shit on lucas when they're no better?
Keep a consistent villain (Maul)
Have Obiwan actually have an arc that might intertwine interestingly with Episode 4 Obiwan.
Have Anakin be like, 16-17 when he is turned down for being 'too old'
Anakin and his plotline was fine after Episode 1, Obi and the Villains are the weak links of later films.
>>64413619
>How would you fix them
There's too many of them!
>>64418820
You're missing the point. It was the execution that was garbage. The underlying plot is not bad at all.
>>64418741
The Battle for Naboo mirrors the historical battles of Thermopylae and Artemisium. A battle in space and on the ground is led by the Jedi while simultaneously, Jar Jar Binks leads a naval fight. Qui Gon is tragically killed but the Gungan's success ultimately allows for the forces of Naboo to prevail.
>>64418471
More? Okay.
Episode 2:
Anakin and Obi-Wan have been training together for years, with Anakin becoming a proficient Jedi. He hasn't laid eyes on Padme since the funeral. However, emotions are stirred up in Anakin when she suddenly appears at the Jedi Temple and the two reconnect over a meal. Padme says she will appear in the Senate to strengthen her planet's ties with the dwindling Republic. She also gets very flirty with the Padawan during their neeting. Anakin mentions his feelings to his mother (who lives with him on Corusant) and the two argue over the rules against Jedi and relationships, with Anakin echoing Obi-Wan and the Jedi, saying he will need to reject his feelings, and Shmi saying he shouldn't have to.
Intercut with the relationship stuff is Palpatine conferencing with Maul, who has had his arm cybernetically repaired. He wants revenge on the Jedi who damaged him (Anakin). Palpatine mentions he has made some contacts that will lead Maul and Anakin to each other again.
>Padme is targeted but saved by Obi-Wan/Anakin.
>Meanwhile, Shmi is kidnapped by low-life thugs on Corusant (possibly Hutts?) and then ransom demands are made.
>Jedis refuse to give into terrorists demands despite Anakin's protests, and he goes to rescue her on his own.
>Too late, she's dead. No last words, just dead mom. Anakin rages and kills everyone in the gang hideout without any remorse and without telling anyone.
>After her funeral, the Lars' take off for Tattooine to start honest jobs as moisture farmers. Anakin stays behind.
>A cold Anakin is comforted by Padme, and he gives him after remembering his last conversation with his mom
>They start their secret relationship right there on Padme's ship
Most of the rest of the movie is the same, but No Dooku - Just Maul fighting Obi-Wan and Anakin. He gets beheaded by Anakin doing the crossed saber thing. Obi-Wan told him stop, but he didn't. Windu witnesses this happen. Then, secret wedding i guess?
>>64414544
.....wtf? Are you okay anon?
>>64418986
This guy gets it. Most of the prequels' plot is actually solid, it's just a few things that weren't done right or that were made overly complicated.
>>64419530
I just rewatched them for the first time as a non-kid in my 20's, I'm really starting to understand the plot and it's actually a lot more cohesive and great than people give it credit for
even the >muh politics whiners complaining about TPM, it all makes perfect sense, was a set up and a power play by Palpatine, I can't believe people complained about 5 minutes of exposition for a fucking space opera
probably the same children clapping and hooting during the 2 hour actionfest that JJ just gave us
Some ideas for the first preque I've had:
>Obi-Wan is a padawan in his late teens/early 20s with Qui-Gon when they meet Anakin, while on a mission/adventure
>They travel on a freighter to their destination where they meet Anakin, in this mid-late teens, apprenticed to the captain
>They're dropped off and pursue their mission, where government order is breaking down and innocents are suffering
>Action ensues to further develop up Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon's characters
>Anakin's freighter is caught in this conflict, killing his master, Anakin then finds himself helping a separated Obi-Wan find Qui-Gon
>They get into some hairy situations and become friends, having a fair amount in common and being of a similar age and having both been apprenticed in some fashion
>Qui-Gon is killed by the bad guys and a climactic and dramatic final battle ensues
>Obi-Wan leaves and is made a Jedi Knight by Yoda
>Second film has Obi-Wan return to Anakin and offer to train him in the force
Dialogue from extra characters throughout the movies hint at growing discontent among the population for the Republic which is perceived as being unable to protect its inhabitants and disillusionment with the Jedi throughout the films. The Jedi are shown looking less robed and more like Luke in ROTJ or even Vader without the machine parts. Vehicles, props, hairstyles and speech should reflect the style of the originals in spirit.
I'm not sure what I'd do about the Clone Wars. I was thinking of having the conflict that Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon go to in the first film act as a precursor. The breakdown in Republic order and dissatisfaction/lack of faith in the Jedi would be introduced in it whether the clone stuff is or not. I want the Emperor to be a senator who takes advantage of the dire situation of the Republic is in and take control with popular support as he promises order. He isn't shown to be a Sith specifically (which is never introduced as a concept), just a dark side force practitioner.
>>64419530
I can see where george lucas was going for with the "you turned against me!" tier dialogue. like I can understand his vision for it and how he's reading it like a book in his mind and having it seem perfect. but no one was able to say to him look we have actors and we need to make this work for an audience, we can't just will your headcanon into existence. so the dialogue comes across as really unnatural because lucas didn't work with the actors at all. only palpatine works because he's an evil villain.
Overall I like the story and I like the reason why Anakin was turned to the dark side. I mean it makes a lot of sense to me, it was the only way to save Padme and after all it's just a point of view, dark side doesn't mean evil, it's just different, moreover, he didn't do anything, he was just staying loyal to his government and the republic and it didn't make much difference that it became an empire, still the same thing. He was already used to follow orders as a Jedi, in the clone wars, etc, so it would be a betrayal not to conform to Palpantine.
The Death Star should be being built
>>64419485
Episode 3
Clone Wars happen same as normal, except Grievous is the primary face of the separatists and Palpatine runs things from the shadows. No Dooku. The General is defeated during a mid-movie climax between him and Obi-Wan + Yoda.
Despite Windu's misgivings, Anakin continues down the path and is give the rank of Jedi. He is needed in the Clone Wars. But as the wars come to an end, Windu starts pushing back against Anakin.
>Anakin reconnects with Palpatine early in the film. Sheev reminds him how good revenge felt.
>Windu becomes the main antagonist for Anakin
>The Anakin/Padme relationship gets found out due to Padme's pregnancy
>While Obi-Wan and Yoda are off-planet (Kasshyyk maybe?), Windu advances with a small group of Jedi to arrest Anakin, but he fights back.
>When he sees Padme in danger because of this fight, he taps into the darkside and kills Windu and the advancing Jedi. His viciousness scares Padme and she faints. He leaves her at a medical facility and searches for Palpatine, who explains the reasons the Jedi were wrong.
>>64420035
>Palpatine plays on Anakin's desire to protect Padme from the Jedi who Anakin perceives as being after them
>Anakin becomes Darth Vader and begins to take out Jedi. Execute Order 66.
>Obi-Wan returns to see the Jedi Temple in ruins, discovers Windu's orders to take Anakin
>Yoda loses fight to Sidious
>Obi-Wan and Anakin argue, then fight above a reactor core thing
>Obi-Wan wins by disarming (literal) Anakin, and before delivering the finishing blow, Anakin delivers a form of "If you were ever my brother, take care of Padme and my child" before letting go of railing and falling into core
>Obi-Wan believes Anakin dead, but takes his lightsaber and goes to Padme, who has simply died in childbirth. Takes twins with him in his ship.
>Vader falls into core and is irradiated, but is able to grab a railing and pull himself out of the core.
>By sheer will he survives long enough for Palpatine to get him into the suit
>Vader blames Obi-Wan and the Jedi for Padme's and the child's death. Dedicates his life to wiping out all Jedi and establishing order.
>Obi-Wan meets Yoda and each takes a child. Obi-wan takes the boy to be with his family, Yoda takes the girl to Alderaan before running off to Dagobah.
Yeah, I didn't change much in Episode 3... just locations in the last act
>>64419678
I'd also use the first Star Wars' aesthetic as the reference rather than Empire or ROTJ, as it has more of the flash gordon space fantasy thing going on that suits a story about the Jedi.
It should be heavily implied that the Jedi Knights are decentralised and their structure is based on personal relationships more than anything else.
Second film:
>It is established that Obi-Wan returns to train Anakin, who has become his Pupil, they are both a few years older now
>They should be depicted as friends whose master/pupil relationship is based more on knowledge than authority
>We see them out doing Jedi stuff together
>Anakin meets Padme during this, in the first film we are shown that both Obi-Wan and Anakin are sexually active through visual storytelling hints, so her introduction as a love interest feels appropriate
>The final act sees the Clone Wars begin, this will have very little in common with Lucas' Clone Wars. The foreshadowed breakdown in the Republic come to a head and our Jedi are thrown into the midst of it
>This changes the tone of the film and at the end sees Obi-Wan make Anakin a full Jedi Knight after they go through a dramatic battle which possibly involves Padme
Anakin and Obi-Wan are both shown to have similar personalities (this will , which makes their frienship make sense. Of course they're not identical and will have personality quirks and differences to differentiate their characters.
The second film is the one I've still got to work on the most as far as ideas go.
>>64414308
so more like Harry Potter?
Rough ideas here, not necessarily in chronological order:
Obi-Wan Kenobi is a Jedi Knight in service to Bail Organa during the Clone Wars, an intragalactic conflict involving clones or cloning (perhaps a war fought over the morality or acceptability of cloning), and not some bullshit AH AH LORDU SIDIOUSU, DIH YOU KILLU, AH, PADAMAY YETU?
Obi-Wan's master, Yoda, does not approve of the war and goes into isolation on the unsettled world of Dagobah.
Anakin Skywalker is a heroic pilot and leader of his own squadron. He is also fighting in the Clone Wars. He is married, and it is not to a senator.
His squadron is defeated in battle while facing impossible odds. Anakin and his surviving pilots are on foot, low on supplies, and are being hunted down by enemy soldiers when they are found and assited by Obi-Wan Kenobi. Skywalker is amazed at the sight of Kenobi's battle prowess, while Kenobi is astonished at how strong the Force is with Skywalker. Believing he can instruct Anakin as well as Yoda, Obi-Wan takes Skywalker as his student.
Obi-Wan's war time duties prevent him from closely overseeing Anakin's training. Anakin is first in awe of his growing powers, but soon begins to crave more anf eagerly awaits the times he can train with Kenobi. He is sometimes reckless with his powers.
Anakin's desire for more power unknowingly opens him up to the Dark side. He taps into a power he cannot control, frightening his wife and himself. Anakin's wife insists he stop using the Force as it is too much for him. Anakin is unconvinced. She eventually leaves him out of fear. She is carrying his unborn children.
Sheev, who is no longer named Sheev, was a politician who discovered he could manipulate the minds of others. He explores this source of power and uses it to advance his career. He is eventually corrupted by it and is a being of pure not goodness. He does some stuff that makes him the big bad.
Anakin, unsure if this Jedi thing is for him, still wishes to be a hero. (Cont)
>>64420372
Anakin, broken by his ordeals, contacts Obi-Wan. Anakin says that he was once a hero in the war, but now he is nothing. He has nothing left but his legacy and if he must die he will die as a hero. He asks Kenobi, not as a Jedi, but as his friend, to find his son and deliver his lightsaber should something happen to him. Kenobi, confused, pleads for Anakin to focus, remain calm, and wait for him.
Anakin confronts Palpatine when his powers become unstable. Palpatine offers to give him the control he desperately desires and to show him greater power than he has ever had. Anakin initially refuses, wishing to die. Not Sheev reminds Anakin he has lost everything already and asks him if he will let all his losses be for nothing.
Rumors spread of a Jedi killer, Darth Vader. The once free-wandering Jedi Knights, who were never organized as a monolithic order in this continuity, begin to band together in small groups for safety. Even in numbers they are slain.
Obi-Wan searches for Anakin, but cannot find any sign of his student. He believes Anakin is dead. (Cont)
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>>64420399
A group of young jedi seek out Kenobi's help, as he is a famed war hero and a student of the great Jedi Master Yoda, and is far more experienced and powerful than most of the Jedi roaming the galaxy . When Obi-Wan hears of the Jedi hunter, he concludes Vader murdered Skywalker. Kenobi intends to hunt Vader. Obi-Wan gives them a date and instructs them meet him on Lava Planet Not Mustafar. He tells them to spread the news to any other Jedi they can.
On the day of the meeting, a figure in a dark robe arrives to find a large, empty cavern with a large pool of molten lava in the center. The blast doors slam and lock behind him. Obi-Wan emerges from the shadows behind Vader. Vader remarks that one kill will have to do for time being. He turns around and is overwhelmed at the sight of Kenobi. Obi-Wan is shaken that Anakin is the Jedi hunter.
Obi-Wan pleads with Anakin, trying to make sense of the situation. Anakin attacks Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan only defends himself while still trying to reason with Skywalker.
During the battle, Vader's words and actions make it clear there is nothing that can be said that will dissuade him from his task. Kenobi no longer holds back and dominates the fight. Vader realizes he is outclassed. Kenobi disarms Vader. As Vader attempts to scramble to safety, he loses his footing and tumbles toward the pit. He barely manages to grab a rock on the cliff's face. Obi-Wan extends a hand and pleads one last time for Anakin to come home. Vader ignites and hurls his lightsaber at Kenobi with the Force. Kenobi catches it mid-flight and looks back at Vader to see him fall into the pool of lava. Kenobi remarks he failed Anakin as a teacher. He looks at the lightsaber in his hand and vows not to fail him as a friend.
Anakin's wife gives birth to twins. Mother and daughter go to live under the care and protection of the House of Organa on Alderaan. Obi-Wan takes the boy to his brother, Owen, on Tatooine and remains to watch over him
>>64417116
No
They all should have just shot him
>>64420082 (You)
Oh, I forgot to say that Anakin and Obi-Wan are separated at the end the second film as they are both needed in different places in the war. Obi-Wan becomes a general* under Senator Organa while Anakin is needed elsewhere. We follow Obi-Wan here
Third film:
>Clone Wars in full swing
>General Kenobi fighting to liberate a planet with the Republic in the final days of the war. this is shown as a buildup to a battle similar to how Hoth goes down in Empire, lots of tension
>Before the first battle occurs, Anakin turns up, having been sent/requested there
>Obi-Wan is ecstatic to see him, and though Anakin reciprocates this, something seems slightly different about him. His mannerisms and demeanor have changed, he is wearing different clothes, more like the vader suit
>He reveals that he married Padme and they've had two children together, he gives Obi-Wan his old lightsaber, saying that he's made a new one (revealing his red lightsaber) and that if he dies he wants his son to have it, when he's old enough
>Throughout the battle he acts out of character, and is less bothered by violence
>The battle is won and the Clone Wars are over! The mood is jubilant!
>In a tonal contrast, Obi-Wan later sees Anakin kill a captive unnecessarily after questioning him for information, Obi-Wan confronts him which leads to an argument where Anakin reveals that while he was away fighting he met Palpatine, who was going to restore order to the galaxy with the dark side with him and that the Jedi are a threat to that
>The two fight and Obi-Wan defeats him. Vader is burned badly in this fight, either by the lightsaber or by lava, whatever works better. Obi-Wan spares his friend and leaves to find Organa, the final scene is of Obi-Wan leaving, setting up the events of the Original Trilogy.
>>64420798
Note on the Clone Wars: My initial idea is that the clones are opportunistic warlords who are taking advantage of the weak Republic and ransacking planets. They could either be a single force or an emergent disconnected phenomena who happen to have the use of cloning in common.
>>64413619
>How would you fix them
Well, never thought about it too hard, but here goes. Mostly off the cuff, so there may be some issues
>Episode 1
>open similarly, but lighter on details, just make it clear that it's a diplomatic mission
>qui-gon and obi-wan are serving as diplomats, not letting it slip that they are Jedi
>speak with the viceroy for a little, let the audience know Naboo crossed the TF and the TF are re-exerting control, just keep it simple, i.e no jibberish about taxes, trade routes, legal invasions, none of that shit
>viceroy eventually discovers they're Jedi
>"I cannot believe this treachery" some bullshit like that
>have armed droids confiscate their lightsabers, escort them towards a cell block or some shit like that
>they fight off their guards using only the Force
>droids actually formidable enemies, it's made obvious the fight wasn't easy
>sneak around, get lightsabers back
>emphatic shot on them opening their LS for the first time, hasn't happened on-screen since the 80's and should feel epic
>their escape was discovered, ship on high alert, squads of droids rushing everywhere
>qui and obi manage to avoid detection, get near the hangar
>only to be greeted by a mysterious manCount Dooku, will be always called Darth Tyrannus as is appropriate, says some menacing bullshit than draws his red LS, again with an extra air of drama
>qui-gon tells obi-wan to get, he's still inexperienced yada yada, holds strange man off while obi-wan books it
>we see qui-gon fighting, but we don't know what happens to him for a while
I'll continue if anyone cares
>>64420883
Eh, fuck you guys, I'll go anyway
>obi on Naboo surface
>knows fuck all about where anything is, just follows TF battle columns through forests
>they eventually arrive at capital city thing
>obi sneaking around, sees droids escorting some important looking people
>"eh, why the fuck not" jumps out at the droids
>young and rash, almost gets shot dead by a droid, but one of the prisoners picks up fallen droid's gun and shoots the droid before it can kill him, but otherwise everything is okay
>turns out this is the queen, her attendants, and several of her staff
>get a ship, pilot guy overclocks the engines or some techno-bullshit, they barely run the blockade, ship irreversibly damaged
>C3P0 is just a protocol droid the queen has, R2 is just one astromech on board, they're mentioned but no le speshul bullshit about Anakin building 3P0 or R2 saving the day
>queen's advisor suggests going to tatooine, isolated, TF won't look for them there
>obi goes into town to look for where they can maybe buy a new ship or passage to Coruscant, to try and get help
>only one dealer in town even accepts Republic credits, go talk to him
>Watto is a smug asshole, keeps trying to sell him useless crap
>obi realizes he doesn't have enough money to buy anything useable, wonders where he could get more fast
>watto suggests sarcastically he could always bet on the pod races
>"Hell, if an idiot like you could manage to guess the winner, I might just give you a ship for free hehehehe" some smug shit like that
>"Okay, I'll take that bet"
>"Please, you can't be serious. Besides, what do I have to gain here?"
>"If I loose, my ship, or what remains of it. Should fetch a high price for the parts alone"
>Watto, being a greedy asshole, takes this, thinks there's no way obi can pick winner, takes him down to where the racers go to work on their pods
>obi's looking around, knows nothing about all these weird people doin weird stuff, gets nervous, thinks he's made an awful mistake...
>>64420372
>perhaps a war fought over the morality or acceptability of cloning
I like that, it could be like the American Civil War
>>64420418
>>64420399
>>64420372
I like it
Should Owen and Beru Lars be Anakins or Obiwans family? I would have thought Beru would be his sister, who married Owen. Or maybe he took her name he's Anakin's brother or he's a half-brother?
>>64421516
>when he sees some kid, maybe 13 or 14, working on a beat-up looking pod
>even with obi's relative inexperience, he can tell this kid is just swarming with the force
>"him" he indicates to watto
>"what? him? he's never even finished a race, hehehe. I can't let you loose THAT easy, pick someone else"
>"I've made my decision"
>"Hm, alright. Your ship, kid. hehehe" [flys away]
>obi-wan walks up to the kid, Anakin obviously
>obi is only about 20, so not too much of an age difference
>introductions, you know the shit, should feel special in some way
>obi lets anakin he's betting on him
this next bit I'm not entirely straight through on, but in some order or another it goes like this
>obi learns Anakin's mom was sold into slavery god knows where, dad was just some smuggler, no desire to meet him (none of that space jesus bullshit, no prophecies neither)
>Anakin asks if they have any tools that he could use to finish repairing his pod, obi offers to bring some astromech from the ship to help him, R2 just for muh poetry
>ship tries to contact Coruscant/Naboo, no luck
>obi keeps meditating, trying to contact quigon through the force, fails, but does start to find some inner calm, seems to grow as a jedi
>podrace happens basically the same, but with missing characters not present, other obvious differences
>the queen is grateful to obi for getting them going, lets him take Anakin along to coruscant
>Anakin meets Padme, 16-ish, they become friends
>Padme is an attendant/assistant to queen, throw in something about how doing that's part of the ladder women can take to enter Naboo politics, but again, keep it brief
>arrive on coruscant
Cont. maybe
TPM
>Set 30 years before ANH
>Anakin is around 20 years old
>Jedi Knights function much the same as they do in TPM, but without the raising-them-from-childhood angle.
>Anakin is a young hotshot pilot in the Republic Air Force (Probably called something else)
>His brother Owen is a farmer on Tattooine, they love each other but argue frequently over Anakin thinking he's too good for the farmer's life and Owen being content with never leaving the planet.
>There are whisperings of a Clone Army being built, Anakin is assigned to an elite unit to investigate.
>The unit is led by Jedi Knight Obi-Wan Kenobi (around age 30)
>They form a friendship over the course of the mission, and Obi-Wan recognises Anakin's latent Force abiities
>The Clone Army is being built by the Sith, who have returned.
>Everyone in the unit is killed in a climactic battle involving prototype-Clones, led by Darth Maul
>Anakin manages to kill the final Clones before looking over and witnessing Obi-Wan defeat Maul in a lightsaber duel
>Obi-Wan reports to the leaders of the Republic (perhaps a council of 12 with ONE Jedi representative - probably Yoda)
>Obi-Wan visits the recovering Anakin on Tattooine. He tells him there is a war on the horizon and asks him to come and train with him to become a Jedi Knight
>Owen begs Anakin not to go
>Anakin leaves with Obi-Wan, Owen watches them depart
>Fin
I'll do AotC and RotS if people don't hate this one too much.
>>64422090
that's actually pretty fucking good.
>>64422299
Thanks, mate. Working on AotC now.
not really
but you tried reddit
Great ideas in this thread tbqhwyf
>>64422090
AotC
>Around 8 years later (22 years before ANH)
>Anakin is a Jedi Knight (28ish), and is partnered with Obi-Wan (38ish)
>Anakin is still hot-headed, pulls babes (none of this no-attachment bullshit), very Top Gun Maverick, while Obi-Wan is more patient and wise. They are best friends.
>Padme is introduced as a Senator of great importance, testifying to the fact of an enormous Clone Army (based off of the prototypes in TPM) that has been completed and will strike any day.
>Hates Anakin, finds him cocky and childish, Anakin finds her uptight and rude. There's sexual tension.
>Anakin and Obi-Wan are assigned by Sheev (another member of the Republic Council thing) to protect Padme on her journey back to her own planet. They are attacked on the way, but successfully reach Naboo.
>More tension with Anakin and Padme, they sleep together.
>The next morning, Naboo is the first planet attacked by the Clone Army. Begun, the Clone Wars have.
>Three Sith attack Anakin and Obi-Wan.
>Padme attempts to help and is thrown hard against a wall or pillar.
>Anakin's resulting anger causes him to easily destroy his one or two opponents while Obi-Wan finishes his off with significantly more difficulty.
>Anakin rushes over to Padme and makes sure she's okay, she kisses him
>Back on Coruscant, Obi-Wan is worried about Anakin's anger, talks to him about it and Anakin acknowledges it and promises to work on it. As they discuss this Sheev listens with great interest.
>They learn that the Clone Army has begun to attack other planets as well.
>Ends with Anakin and Padme being married, a small but not secret ceremony. Obi-Wan is best man.
>Fin
>>64422581
>>64422090
don't stop...
Honestly, Darth Jar Jar would've saved the prequels.
>>64422846
Working on it. I actually really like what I've got so far. Give me a few.
>>64422090
>>64422581
RotS 1/2
>Around 7 years later (15 years before ANH)
>Anakin (around 35 now) and Padme have twins, Luke and Leia, who are around five years old. They live with him in the Jedi Temple.
>Sheev is a friend and mentor to Anakin, and Obi-Wan (around 45 now) is wary of this, perhaps a little jealous.
>The Clone Wars operate much the same as we see in RotS, but with Jedi leading each regiment of Republic troopers against Clones, rather than Clones against droids.
>Yoda leads the troops on Alderaan and is friends with the King there.
>Anakin is with Sheev, who is telling them that he is the only Jedi he can trust, because he believes the others plan to stage a coup.
>Anakin refuses to believe this.
>Suddenly all the Clones, all over the galaxy, stop attacking.
>The Republic troopers are told to execute Order 66.
>Order 66 plays out much the same as what we saw. Yoda, with the Alderaan King's help, manages to escape.
>Obi-Wan also escapes his slaughter.
>The Jedi Temple goes into lock-down mode - nobody in or out while the Jedi are being exterminated.
>Anakin isn't allowed in to see his family.
>Sheev admits he is the Sith lord, and sends every last Sith under his command into the temple under the pretense of saving Anakin's family.
>He tells Anakin this is the Jedi coup he was telling him was coming, and his family isn't safe. Anakin goes along with the Sith forces.
>Really, they've been told to kill everyone.
>The last Jedi (aside from Yoda and Obi-Wan) and the last Sith (aside from Sheev) are in the Temple at this point.
>Obi-Wan, with the aid of the King of Alderaan and Yoda, infiltrates the Temple through a hidden entrance and rescues Anakin's family. As they escape, though, Padme is stabbed by a Sith.
>Obi-Wan stays with her as she dies while Yoda and The King of Alderaan get the twins to safety.
>>64422090
>>64422581
>>64423216
RotS 2/2
>As Padme dies, Anakin walks in with two Sith and sees Obi-Wan over her body, lightsaber wound and all.
>Obi-Wan and Anakin both stare at each other before the Sith rush Obi-Wan. He defeats them while Anakin stares as Padme's body, filled with rage. He attacks Obi-Wan.
>Yoda and King of Alderaan reach their ship and begin to fly away but are attacked by TIE Fighters.
>Anakin and Obi-Wan fight their way out of the Temple, along a cliff near a waterfall.
>Obi-Wan fights Anakin along the cliff, pleading with him to listen. Anakin is beyond caring, and blames Obi-Wan and all Jedi for not allowing him into the temple. He thinks he would've saved Padme, succeeding where Obi-Wan failed.
>At this point, Sheev presses a button, and the Temple explodes, killing all Jedi and Sith inside.
>Anakin falls to his knees and asks if his children were inside.
>Obi-Wan is about to tell him they got out okay, but sees Anakin's Sith eyes and realises he's gone. He tells him that they were inside.
>Anakin is silent for a moment before screaming with rage and resuming the fight.
>Yoda and the King of Alderaan manage to escape
>Obi-Wan defeats Vader, slicing off his arm and stabbing him through the chest. With his last bit of strength, Vader Force-pushes Obi-Wan off the cliff before collapsing.
>Obi-Wan lands in water below, and sees Vader's lightsaber. He takes it, and swims away.
>Sheev finds Vader and realises that he is still alive, despite having been stabbed through his chest.
>Obi-Wan returns to the others. He leaves Leia with the King of Alderaan and takes Luke.
>Anakin is being laid into his armour on an operating table. Sheev observes, and Vader tells him he killed Obi-Wan.
>Obi-Wan Luke to Owen on Tattooine, then walks over the hill into the distance.
>Vader awakens in his black armour and observes his surroundings
>The Emperor stands by a window, looking out into space
>Vader rises from the chair, and stands behind his Master
>Fin
>>64423252
actually amazing.
>>64422090
>>64422581
>>64423216
>>64423252
What do you think?
>>64423252
>Obi-Wan is about to tell him they got out okay, but sees Anakin's Sith eyes and realises he's gone.
>He tells him that they were inside
...
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...what
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...why
>>64423465
He wants to keep them away from Vader. Was that not clear?
>>64423500
Mm, alright. That wasn't clear, at least two me.
I thought Obi-Wan just thought "eh, he's already evil, might as well lie to him lol"
loving this thread, don't let it die.
>>64424007
Don't be worried Mr. Bond, threads generally don't die easy this early in the America-morning.
>>64422090
>>64422581
>>64423252
Enjoyed that thoroughly.
>>64415876
This guy actually manages to make quite a lot of pretty good stories. I don't agree with everything he says, but I think overall his smartest changes are
>simplifying the movies to only have one or two big plots
>focusing the trilogy on Obi-Wan, so that each trilogy is about a certain character's experience of seeing Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader grow
>keep Darth Maul alive
>never explicitely calling Luke & Leia by name or showing Darth Vader's outfit
>>64424454
Darth Vader doesn't grow at all until the last fifteen minutes of Empire. Hardly would call the whole trilogy about watching him grow.
>>64417235
I actually found the music kinda mediocre in TFA. There just wasn't anything of the caliber of the previous Star Wars movies, it all felt like it was either music that already existed, or typical, Hans Zimmer-like bullshit.
>>64416910
I hated the design of these ships. They just remind me a little bit TOO much of WWII era stuff.
I'll start with the Phantom Menace: A chase film, shot mostly on sets and with practical effects, CGI only applied where it needs to be.
>1/2
Obi-Wan Kenobi and Qui-Gon Jinn have been tasked to locate Anakin after a huge disturbance in the force had alerted the order of his prophetic potential at his birth. After 9 years of searching and many adventures, they find him at the asshole of the universe: Tatooine. After negotiating Anakin and his mother out of slavery in lieu of a payment for a Pod-Racing tournament Obi-Wan barely escaped with his life from, they hastily have to retreat from the planet as Darth Maul reveals himself along with a small army, intent on capturing or assassinating the boy.
In the chaos, Anakin mother dies. After a short period of grieving and gathering themselves while in hyperspace, a fleet belonging to the newly established separatists catches up with them, forcing them to make a crash landing on Naboo. Their ship slowly sinking to the bottom of one of Naboo's waters, they are rescued by Gungans who, after some convincing, help them get back to the surface and towards the Capitol so they can alert the council and get off world. They are strange, simple creatures, but no Jar Jar dickery though.
As they arrive however, they find the capital surrounded by separatist forces, the city engaged in an all-out conflict, a deceleration of war against the republic. They manage to sneak into the city but are caught in the chaos and Anakin gets separated from Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon. There he stumbles upon a freshly captured hostage, a Princess close to his age by the name of Padmé. He uses some of his natural force affinity to rescue her from her captors, but on the run, Darth Maul suddenly appears and starts hunting them down with a Jason Voorhees/Terminator like tenacity.
>>64425476
>2/2
When he got them cornered and in a force choke, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Qui-Gon Jinn rush him and manage to get him on the defensive long enough for Anakin and the princess to escape.
The rest happens pretty much like in the original, minus those ridiculous force fields.
With Qui-Gon gone and Darth Maul (to his knowledge) dead, Obi-Wan catches up with Anakin and Padmé, only to find they're outnumbered. When they are just about to surrender, enter Gungan reinforcements, who save the day.
Ends a ceremony where the Queen awards Obi-Wan, Anakin and other war effort members for their bravery. Obi-Wan contacts the Jedi Counsel, Anakin further mourns the death of his mother, Pademé attempts to comfort him. Somewhere lightyears away, a veiled Sith Lord converses with the leader of the separatists, count Dooku, on what to do next.
>>64413619
You don't show their cringey romance.
Allude to it mostly.
Show Anakin as someone who actually has their shit together and is a hero. Obi Wan eventually notices that he's keeping secrets.
Have Annie actually know more about sheev. He finds out he's actually super evil but still tries to learn the life saving technique in order to save Padme, and then betray Sheev.
Don't have Anakin be a crazy fucking mass murderer before Padme dies.
There has to be a more clever way to have him hate the rest of the Jedi and be grateful to Palatine.
How about someone kidnaps Padme, but the Jedi council refuses to allow Anakin to try and get her? They need him to stay and... Help fight against the clones?
He has no way of finding her, so he asks Sheev for help. About this time, the Jedi find out that Sheev is evil, and Obi Wan sees Anakin together with Sheev, boarding a ship to go save Padme. Anakin sits idly by while Sheev kills a couple Jedi en route.
He needs to get to Padme in order to save her and maybe his child from death from childbirth, as he foresaw.
They get there too late. Padme is dead, but has given birth to twins. Mace Windu is there. He killed the captors and had retrieved the twins.
Anakin realizes that Windu knew the location before and didn't tell him. He loses it and they start fighting. Anakin uses some dark side rage and starts winning, but then Windu also uses Dark Side juice to come back.
All reservations about using the Dark Side vanish from Anakin, as he sees how Mace is able to maintain balance.
Anakin beheads Mace as Obi Wan arrives.
They fight, Annie loses.
Sheev was... Busy with something else or whatever.
>>64413619
There are too many interlocking problems, even Lucas realized this. He said that the scenes all led into each other and there was no way to remove any of them because the movie would fall apart. The entire thing needed to just be scrapped and redone, but they invested too much into it to do that so fuck it.
>>64413619
basically, revan = anakin
thats how it should have been. jedi becomes disillusioned with the republic after ptsd from fighting in a galactic scale war and overthrows the republic
the end
why do the sith have red swords?
>>64426746
because Sith lightsabers use synthetic crystals and they are red.
>>64426746
Because darth vader had a red lightsaber so that means ALL dark side users have red lightsabers!
Just like Obi Wan wore robes because he was a desert hermit, so now all jedi wear the same desert hermit robes.
Anakin is an young adult in part 1
Obi was already his teacher.
Anakin is already in a relationship with padme
Obi is sent to the dumb planet to save his former pupil
(Jedi is a secret society most people don't know about)
They team up and save the planet / princess
It's Lethal Weapon in Space
Kenobi finds out about anakin and padme but basically Anakin says he is going to retire and gives his light saber to kenobi and tells him to teach his children when he has them
Basically the war is going on (though not yet known as clone wars)
Second movie Anakin has to come back to being a Jedi after Kenobi is killed
And the clones are of kenobi! Like starlog magazine said 30 years ago. (Kenobi's spirit inhabits OB-1's clone body but anakin doesn't believe it)
Maul is the bad guy in one
Is cut in half
Comes back in two as grevious to kill kenobi
Kenobi cuts his head off before dying
Maul comes back in 3 as a head in a jar in a droid body but has become peaceful hippy
Anakin teams up with sheev to basically stop the clone wars and save his wife
She dies but he actually does bring her back to life but she doesn't want to see him because now he's a monster sith jerk
The end
>>64421547
I like this, too.
Also, this thread is way better than I expected.
>>64423216
If Anakin knew about Leia, why would him discovering her in Luke's mind be significant?
>>64428328
We know that Leia remembers her mother, who died when she was very young. It makes more sense (to me, anyway) for the twins to be young children rather than newborn babies when their mother dies.
So, I would think that Vader would've learnt that one of his children survived in TESB, and then the other in RotJ. "Obi-Wan was wise to hide her from me".
Granted, he also does say "So, you have a twin sister" as if he never knew Luke had a twin, so there's a case to made there.
I guess you could slightly adapt my RotS pitch to having Padme escaping while heavily pregnant and dying in childbirth, playing it out the same as RotS, but I can't personally reconcile that with Leia remembering her.
I think it fits better with what we know in the OT to have Vader simply believing Leia and Luke to both be dead.
>>64428328
>>64428464
A third option that I just thought of would be to have Padme escape with Obi-Wan while pregnant, Anakin still thinking she died, and she gives birth to them and then dies fiveish years later under unrelated circumstances.
A little anticlimactic, but you may prefer it anyway.
>>64428464
I just accept it as Leia being wrong about who her real mother was.
>>64422090
>>64422581
>>64423216
>>64423252
best in thread. really good actually.
>>64428555
Yeah, that's another possibility. I don't like it, but I can appreciate it.
>>64415872
Makes a lot more sense, but is a bit short for a full-length movie,
>>64415921
lmao I had to go put out a fire and forgot to finish this last night
Episode III
>starts similarly, with less stupid slapstick from the droids
>Anakin, who has been nicer and more relateable in the earlier movies, now comes off like more of a cynical asshole, clearly changed by war
>It's Dooku's ship, not Grevious's ship. Grevious is mentioned but not shown until the end of these scenes
>they skip the stupid capture scene and go straight to Sheev
>Duel and crashing this starship with 3 survivors goes the same, except Anakin executes Dooku without being prodded and then Sheev comforts him
>Anakin and Padme's stuff changes a bit. Padme acts more gleeful, more girlish in response to her pregnancy, you can tell she is, for the first time, unrestrained in her happiness.
>Anakin remains more reserved, he gets his visions
>Sheev puts him on the council, Windu bitchslaps the promise of Mastery away
>Anakin vents to Obi-Wan about how the council and Windu in particular have never trusted him
>Anakin and Obi-Wan are both sent to Kashyyyk where they battle the droids and General Grievous
>Anakin is wounded badly enough to take him out of combat, but not gravely, Grievous escapes and tells them he's going to Utapau
>Obi-Wan senses something is different about Grievous, Anakin goes to Coruscant to recover
>Anakin returns, keeps having his dreams
>talks to Yoda about love, Yoda senses Anakin is hiding something, asks Anakin to come clean, Anakin denies it. Yoda lectures him on the danger of attachments and how he must learn to let go and accept the will of the force. Anakin clearly isn't happy with this
>Yoda takes some clones to reinforce Obi-Wan at Utapau
>Anakin talks to Sheev and Sheev gives him the same speech
>At Sheev's office they have a much deeper and more philosophical discussion that closes some plot holes (clone army, for example)
>Sheev scenes go similarly after this, add some of the novel dialogue in the arrest scene
>>64428833
>Obi-Wan meets Grievous on Utapau
>Grievous reveals to Obi-Wan why he wears the mask, tells them that the separatists have used him as a tool, changed his mind, made him forget who and what he was, he no longer wants to live as a machine
>Grievous strikes a deal with Obi-Wan, if Obi-Wan grants him an honorable death, he will shut down the droids in the sector, if he refuses, the droids will open fire on the civilians and clones alike, killing thousands of innocents
>They duel, surrounded by clones and droids. Obi-Wan kills him, the droids go limp
>Yoda arrives, they go off to meet with the leader of the planet
>get 66'd, survive of course, escape the planet and these scenes go similarly
>Everything goes the same up to Mustafar
>Mustafar duel has more dialogue, more feels, less CGI adventures
>Yoda/Sheev duel also has more dialogue about the nature of the force, Yoda is disgusted by Sheev's subversion of the will of the force, Sheev claims that the force is without will, that it is merely power, that light and dark are in the eye of the beholder.
>Basically Yoda is arguing moral absolutism while Sheev argues complete relativism
>End scenes are kind of similar, no death star shoehorned in and no NOOOOOOOOOO despite the memes that created
I also had some ideas for the Sheev dialogue in his office before Anakin rats him out, it'd go something like this
What a wonderfull thread.
I-I am almost crying...
>>64421666
I want to stick with the not quite canon ROTJ novel explanation that Owen is Obi-Wan's brother. It makes more sense to me that Luke would not be handed over to Anakin's family
>>64421666
>>64429162
It's pretty heavily implied in IV (imo) that Owen is Anakin's brother. Lines like
>(Your uncle) didn't hold with your father's ideals; he felt he should've stayed here and not gotten involved.
and
>(Your uncle) feared you might follow old Obi-Wan on some damn fool idealistic crusade like your father did.
So I always watch IV under that mentality, and why I made Owen Anakin's brother here. >>64422090
Of course, we know from II that the canon explanation is that Owen is Luke's step-uncle on his mother's side - his maternal grandmother married Owen's father after already giving birth to Anakin.
>>64429092
Anakin: You, YOU were the sith all along!
Sheev: Anakin, I know you feel betrayed, all I ask is you hear me out
Anakin: The Sith always lie! Why should I let you whisper poison into my ear?
Sheev: I whisper only perceptions, Anakins, not truths or lies. The Jedi deal in absolutes, the Sith see the galaxy for what it is, a place full of moral conundrums, full of uncertainty. Tell me Anakin, when you were at war, did you not see this? Did you not experience a situation where you had to violate the code of the Jedi to prevent a greater evil?
Anakin: Well yes, but...
Sheev: But what? Why do feel obligated to justify your sins against the Jedi code if you know you did the right thing by doing so?
Anakin: The Jedi have kept peace in the galaxy for a thousand years
Sheev: *chuckles* Oh have they? The Jedi, who mysteriously located a clone army, ordered by a Jedi who mysteriously disappeared after ordering it, just in time to fight against a droid army led by a fallen Jedi, are keepers of the peace? Anakin, search your feelings, you know something to be amiss.
Anakin: What are you implying?
Sheev: That the Jedi have been conspiring to topple the senate and rule by the force, Anakin. Tell me, why has the council never trusted you, Anakin? Why did they refuse to make you a master?
Anakin: ...I do not know.
Sheeve: Because you are not of the Jedi, Anakin. You were not trained from childhood, not indoctrinated as they were. You know life outside of the order, you have felt it, not just seen it. You know love, feel passion for yourself and not for the 'will of the force'. You have a will of your own and to them, that is very dangerous. You would not support their schemes if you knew them.
Anakin: What schemes?
Sheev: The Jedi have been plotting, Anakin. Plotting to take over the Republic and rule by decree. To make the 'will of the force', as it is determined by the Jedi Council, manifest.
Ankin: That's impossible, the Jedi would never do that, Obi-Wan
>>64413872
Plinketts review was funny but the guy had a hate on for anything the prequels did and made up Bullshit theories about why things happened the way they did. To me it seems like the people making the prequels really thought they were making a good movie. He blames the whole thing on George, but it was everyone's fault. Hell George didn't even want to direct the damned things, he just couldn't find anyone else that could, he asked quite a few other big name directors and they refused.
>>64429306
And in the same breath, Obi-Wan tells Luke that Vader betrayed and murdered Anakin. Owen can be his 'uncle' without a biological or marriage connection. Spend ten minutes around Mexicans and it becomes extremely clear.
>>64429862
Yeah, of course. I'm just saying that Owen and Anakin obviously had some kind of relationship prior to Anakin leaving Tattooine with Obi-Wan, as far as IV is concerned.
>>64429462
>Anakin: The Sith always lie! Why should I let you whisper poison into my ear?
Well, you've certainly nailed the Lucas-esque dialogue.
>>64429462
Sheev: "Found" the clone army that made this all possible?
Anakin sits down and ponders for a moment
Sheev: Dooku opposed the plot as well but could not free himself, the grasp of the code is too strong for those raised under it. In the end he became a convenient tool of the Jedi. He refused to strike the winning blows of the war when he had the opportunity.
Anakin: Why did you work with him then?
Sheev: Because a lesser evil served a greater end, Anakin. Through Dooku I could influence the scheme of the Jedi. Turn their own plot against them. Prevent them from dominating, create balance. This is the way of the Sith.
Anakin: Balance? But the Sith are evil!
Sheev: From who's point of view, the Jedi's? Do you believe the fairytales they've woven about our order?
Anakin: I've seen them played out through this war, through the evil actions of Dooku and his minions.
Sheev: And the Jedi have fought a kinder war? On Jabiim, at Saleucemi, or Honoghr?
Anakin: We tried...
Sheev: You failed.
Anakin is silent, clearly mad
Sheev: That which is outside, that which is alien to their order is evil. Emotion is evil. Passion is evil. Love itself is evil! Anakin, I have felt your heart, seen your true nature. You are not of the Jedi, and that is why they cannot trust you. You are to bring balance to the force and that is why they do not trust you. They have taken you into their order to ensure you do not become a threat, that you do not find the enlightenment you seek. Tell the Jedi of me if you wish, Anakin, but know this: The Jedi do not tolerate heresy. They will learn of your secret, and when they do, they will destroy you and that which you love.
Anakin storms off, conflicted.
>>64413619
The pacing needs to be cleaned up and the romance needs to be smoothed out between anakin and padame. It just seemed a little off with the way it was executed.
To be honest George should have cut the first hour and 20 mins from the The Phantom Menace and made a CGI cartoon to explain the back stories of Qui Gon and the whole trade dispute that sets up the start of the clone wars. He should have started right at the battle with the Gungans and the droids. Maul should not have died during the fight but he should have killed qui gon and took obi won's leg or even vise versa. Either way Maul should have really surprised both of them of how good he is with the force. On route to the senate to make a claim of abuse padmes ship is hit by Jango Fett making them crash on Tatooniee. This is where they run into an older anakin. Thats what threw the romance off so much. Portman looked way older than anakin in the first prequel. Dont give a shit if they leave ankin as being force born. He shouldnt have been a slave though he should have been a gladiator or enforcer type person for the Hutts. This is good reason why the jedi console would be more hesitant about training him as a jedi. As he was already powerful but had bad influences on his power usage. They get off Tattoo after Ankin either does the pod races again or some type of gladiatorial battle. After padme address the senate those asain alien dudes with the droids launch an all out assault on Naboo. Taking the planet in the process leaving Padme homeless. Obi wan becomes a Full on Jedi and does take anikin as his apprentice but does so with out the jedi council approval except for Yoda who says he will guide them. The Council task Obi to track down this Jango who tried to assassinate padme. Padme tags along because she wants to know why her home world was attacked. Letting Ani and Padme build a relationship. Which will lead directly into the clone wars.
>>64413619
>Episode 1 starts in the midst of the clone wars
> Separatists are precursor to the empire led by Tarkin and Veers
>Separatists already have storm troopers and sheev is secretly funding them.
> There is only the main Jedi council and a few ancillary Jedi
>Darth Maul is Qui- Gons former apprentice
>Anakin is very powerful from the start and often struggles controlling his nager
>Less Cgi
>No Count Dooku (Maul is the main Villain for 1,2,3
>Maul kills Schmi, Qui Gon, and destroys Anakins home
>Gungan battle is replaced with a volunteer army, commissioned by the Republic, fighting Stormtroopers
>Obi Wan and Maul briefly duel at the end with Maul besting him and escaping
>Jedi do not fully accept Anakin because they sense his dark side.
>Episode 2 starts with Stormtroopers and the separatists attacking various planets and laying waste to entire populations in search of Anakin and Obi-Wan
>Death Star is being built in the outer rim
>Sheev is not chancellor, but senator.
>Maul is hell bent on destroying the Jedi, his former masters.
>The Republic is losing the war and turns to Clones as a last resort
>Jedi never engage in battle, unless they fight another Sith
>Obi-Wan and Anakin learn of Mauls whereabouts on Geonosis.
>Anakin uses his incredible force power to freeze Obi-Wan and prevent him from coming to Geonosis
>Anakin arrives on Geonosis, slaughtering everything on route to Maul
>Maul makes a smug remark on how Anakin is using his anger, mentions how his mother begged for her life.
>Anakin charges at Maul and an intense fight ensues
>Anakin Loses hand
>Obi Wan arrives with a huge number of clones, they rescue Anakin
>Clone fleet decimates base on Geonosis and Maul is presumed dead
>Chancellor Vallorum is voted out of office and sheev is ellected.
>>64416269
>No Disneyfication. Make them serious
Star wars is made for kids. Fuck face.
>>64416269
sounds like you want to watch an anime action film and not star wars. Or perhaps an anime based on star wars geared to 16-22 year olds
Oh, also, keeping the line, "only a Sith deals in absolutes." I'm just giving it to Windu.
>>64429306
>>(Your uncle) didn't hold with your father's ideals; he felt he should've stayed here and not gotten involved.
I forgot this line when I wrote >>64413782
I'd probably change the characterization of Owen a bit, then.
>>64415371
fanfic is definitely good at getting across tragedy and fate
>ep1: adventures of obiwan and anakin
-anakin is hot headed, cocky but a great pilot due to force attunement
-obi wan is a young jedi that isnt a stick in the mud and is influenced by anakins carefree personality but feel loyalty the jedi code. he is not a perfect jedi, he and anakin go and break rules together.
-obiwan sees anakins force attunement and due to friendship teaches him in secret. anakin is very gifted, learns fast
-the clone wars have already started, both sides use clones, separatists are led by a sith
-padme is a naive senator, she and anakin to not get along at first
-sheev becomes chancellor because the republic is losing the clone war
-movie ends with anakin and obiwan winning a minor victory and becoming war heroes
>>64431085
ep2: anakin, meet sith
-years later anakin is a big republic hero, loved by all soldiers and even many jedi. obi wan is a respected jedi who is considered for a jedi council spot. anakin is cockier than ever, and has developed his force powers to jedi level in the meantime. he believes the jedi will let him join the order due to his skill
-he and obiwan go before the jedi to try to get him admitted. the council wont let him due to rules, anakin becomes furious and shows his power by beating down a few jedi in anger and spite, then storms out.
-rank and file jedi respect anakin for his war contribution and skill, are divided on opinions in the jedi temple
-sheev becomes anakins confidant and advisor, slowly tempting him to the dark ideas
-meanwhile the war goes on, padme's homeworld is under attack. padme, obiwan and anakin go with the clone army to fight there, but are soon overrun. anakin tries to evacuate with padme but run into a powerful sith killing jedi
-anakin uses a saber to duel sith, and taps into the dark side for power but is defeated. usual talk about anger, power of the dark side, join us, hand cut off, pottery etc
- padme takes anakin and jumps off balcony (more pottery kek), escaping the sith while obiwan saves them both
- finally the jedi let anakin in the order because the war is getting desperate and because its now not a secret anakin is strong in the force
-anakin and padme have feelings for each other
>>64415461
>>64415921
>>64428833
>>64429462
>>64430116
TPM changes are alright but hate the ending. Also Shmi's sacrifice is just silly and cliche.
AotC changes are all solid.
RotS is changes are excellent.
You should not write dialogue.
>>64420883
>>64421516
>>64422030
I like your changes, especially the early lightsaber fight with Dooku. Also making Obi-Wan young and rash, which we are told happens in TESB but others in this thread have forgotten.
>>64422090
>>64422581
>>64423216
>>64423252
Pretty good, the TPM rewrite especially. Needs work on the Obi-Wan characterisation and Sheev's instawin button is a little dumb.
>>64430678
I like the Darth Maul aspect - very Xanatos. I don't really get how Obi-Wan can possibly beat Anakin after the power you've given him. Also, why is Maul presumed dead?
>>64431085
>>64431312
This is pretty good, but it feels like you've just shifted the plot points one movie to the left while maintaining the character development we already have.
We can all agree that this is the best scene of all the prequels, right?
>>64431634
It's definitely the best in RotS. You're probably right.
>>64431634
Yeah, McDiarmid is based as fuck.
Everyone agrees that Anakin should had been older but who would you cast? Hayden Christensen as a teenager in episode 1? Someone else?
>>64431846
Well, let's see... good 15-ish year old actors in the late 90's...
Yeah, I've got nothing.
>>64431846
For mine which was
>>64422090
>>64422581
>>64423216
>>64423252
I reckon Alexander Skarsgard - the guy who's about to be Tarzan. He's a great actor, handsome, charming and he can do "angry" very convincingly.
Good age for it, too. He's 1976 so if the prequels were released the same dates and he was playing my version, he'd be 23 playing a 20 year old in 1999, 26 playing a 27 year old in 2002, and 29 playing a 35 year old in 2005.
>>64432053
Oh, and he's 6.4 for that Darth Vader height.
>>64419485
a cool maul scene in this context could be the camera facing him or a profile or him off center having a conversation with someone who's voice we hear but don't actually see
>>64431634
That's the second best scene.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_hoXNXSpmng
>>64432317
Seriously, was I fucking asleep the day this meme became a thing?
>>64414007
If Dooku wasn't killed be Anakin early palpatine couldn't start making him his apprentice.
>>64432396
The fuck are you on about?
Hate on the prequels as much as you want to, but those scenes are great. Even the Plinkettfags on the videos comments admit it.
>>64422030
Eh, I'll keep going. Doing it in this much detail is a little annoying but probably worthwhile.
>arrive on coruscant
>immediately go to Sheev and his staff, he's still Senator
>Sheev and co. question everyone on board the ship, to try to get all the information
>is very interested with Anakin while questioning him, this is conveyed visually rather than with dialogue
>after obi and ani give all the information they can, they head off to the Jedi temple
>we follow padme for a bit, she listens as the queen and sheev discuss what they're going to do
>just enough political jabber to make the senatorial and government procedures look bloated, bogged down, and unnecessarily complicated, showing the audience why some groups may think the republic is a corrupt institution later, instead of that happening with no explanation
>queen gives testimony to the Senate, they believe her, but almost immediately get bogged down by bureaucratic procedure, just as Sheev said they would
>we cut to the Jedi temple
>council questions obi about weird guy with LS who attacked them
>speculate whether it was just some rogue jedi, or if it could in fact "mean the worst"
>council evaluates anakin, sees quite a bit of passion in him, but deems he is fit to enter the Order
>we then alternate between showing ani and obi training, ani with basic shit (luckily he's at about the age where children would be accepted into the Academy), obi with more advanced stuff
>ani is in a class with a bunch of other kids, yoda is teacher, talking about the basic nature of the Force, shit that will sound familiar to us from Empire but maybe a bit more elaboration (I imagine a vibe like Xavier in the one scene in Xmen where he actually teaches)
>obi starts doing some kind of advanced saber work with Windu (possible some other char I just want Windu to actually do things and be a cool character) keeps talking about different ways to look at the nature of the Force and how that translates into fighting...
Make it similar to the first series of homeland.
Anakin is already a jedi, who gets captured, while in captivity he is shown the error of being absolute jedi and that sith have their reasons for being dicks.
Then when he returns and joins the jedi again as a secret sith, he goes through all the turmoil of not knowing who to fight for, switching sides at various points and having beef with obi, who knows that he's leaning towards the dark side, but keeps it quiet because he wants to help him come back to the light.
Eventually some jedi, probably windu, does something or asks him to do something he can't live with.
Eventually pushing him to the dark side.
>>64432753
>basically, through watching obi and ani (mostly ani) we get shown a more in-depth look at the force, these "segments" will continue throughout the trilogy, as well as sit-downs with Yoda a-la the one Anakin had in EpIII, to show the Force/spiritual state of the characters, Yoda will grow more and more to suspect Anakin will turn as he sees his attitude changing, etc.
>queen decides she's going to go back without Republic support, it would take too long otherwise
>jedi council can't intervene officially, so obi has to go along
>ani stays at temple to continue his training
>after they leave, Sheev goes to see ani
>asks about his past, about his mother, why do you want to become a jedi, nothing to incriminating, but the suspense is added because we know who they are and what eventually happens, this signals the beginnings of Anakin's presence in Sheev's plans
>padme stayed on coruscant as well, she and ani see each other when they can, fairly good friends, nothing romantic
>cut back to obi
>they have no army, so they plan to destroy a relay in the city linking the droids, then move quickly to capture the viceroy before their forces can be brought back into array, utilizing the tunnel network that lies under the capital
>there are a few close calls, but they managed to shut down the relay
>palace seemingly left undefended
>but they're caught by surprise, a good amount of fully-functioning droids are inside, must have been on a separate network
>get bogged down in the fighting, but they're making progress
>after they clear a room, a big door opens and the weird dark jediTyrannusemerges, entrance straight out of the original
>"I'll handle this" obi wan says, and the rest of the party moves on
>music is the same, but fight has more substance, obi is pretty pissed and fights almost like a madman, but anyone watching can seeTyrannusis just toying with him
Cont.
>>64413792
see, I always felt like that was something about the Dark Side that was sort of retconned into the prequels.
From watching RotJ, I sort of got the impression that the Dark side was actively exerting power over Luke to try and corrupt him - kind of a Isildur and the One Ring situation.
then episode 3 rolls along and you've got Anakin looking at the Dark side and saying "hey that actually seems like a pretty good idea"
>>64433660
"Is the Dark Side stronger?"
"No, no, no. Quicker. Easier. More seductive."
I'd use this a lot for Maul in mine. I'd actually have the, "shorcut," aspect of it be something Windu criticizes as inherently flawed, while Palpatine sells. Once Anakin starts to want to leave the Jedi to be with Padme, and starts listening to Palpatine, he sees easy as the only way to become powerful enough to take on the entire order without help.
I'd do this by hiring someone better at dialogue than me.
i won't write a whole script but i have ideas.
EPISONE ONE
>obi-wan is main character. around 18 years old
>war has just started, trandoshans(lizard guys, same species as that bounty hunter bossk in ESB) are bad guys army instead of droids. no banking or trade federation politics. still seperatists though. no clones yet, republic uses able bodied men as soldiers.
>keep darth maul, but give him more lines.
>obi-wan and qui-gon are having space adventures to negotiate with sepratist leaders about cease-fires and whatnot.
>have to refuel (obi-wan forgot to fuel the ship because fate lol) on some remote planet (don't care what)
>fuel is gotten from some mines on the planet. miners are slaves.
>qui-gon senses something is "off" and the 2 jedi investigate.
>they speak to anakin first (fate lol) and find out what's going on. anakin trusts them immediately because he's been having dreams about these exact people liberating the slaves. both jedi sense the force is strong with this one.
>anakin is still a slave(no longer a child, maybe around 14), and the slavery on a mass scale like in temple of doom.
>obi-wan and qui gon liberate the slaves and have the slavers arrested and put on trial, found guily, put in prison.
>somewhere along the road, maul kills qui-gon, both obi and anie are pissed.
>some battle happens somewhere for some reason, while obi fights maul. maul is explaining to obi about the sith and tries to turn him, obi is having none of that and cuts maul in half.
>>64413619
make anakin more like sinestro
Obi-wan is anakin bro not his master
Jedi are allowed to love.
have darth maul being the only vilain beside sheev.Dooku and Grievous only show up in the clone wars cartoons.
no jar jar
no midichlorians
no clone wars
better fight
better plot(genese of the empire)
better acting/writting
less lazy CGI/politics/pottery
>>64435923
EPISODE TWO
>4 year time skip, anakin is 18, obi is 22
>obi has been teacing anie and they're best bro's.
>coroscant has gone to shit beacause all the money has gone toward the war effort.
>citizens aren't happy with this and elect sheev
>sheev is now OFFICIALLY in charge, but has been manipulating the previous guy and a few other (well meaning, but weak willed) puppet senators with the force. sheev is seen as one of the least corrupt polititians because he hasn't been using bribery.
>jedi have been leading the war effort out of nescessity.
>sheev suggests cloning the best soldiers to combat the shear numbers of trandoshans and some other races.
>there is no vote on this, he just does has them cloned.
>they aren't raised from babies, they're just copied with the exact same memories and everything.
>there souldn't be this many trandoshans, they only live on a few planets because they aren't the most adaptable species, being lizards and all.
>obi wan and anakin sent on a mission to find out where all these trandoshans are coming from.
>(just a note, trandos can regrow limbs because they're lizards)eventually they find that trandos have been doing some wierd shit that makes amputated limbs become full bodies, essentially making clones.(i know it's kinda cheesy, but whatever)
>there are clones on both sides.
>at some point darth maul is revealed to be alive and has robit legs
>moremachinethanman.jpg
>pottery
>>64437332
>Obi-wan is anakin bro not his master
"the circle is now compete, when i left you i was but a learner now i am the master"
>no clone wars
"you fought in the clone wars?"
>>64437780
you are right but they could be more bros like Obi is to luke than what we got.
the clone wars is better in cartoons.heck the whole trilogy can be the clone war
>>64437899
>yes i know but you saying that there should be no clone wars directly contradicts the dialouge in episode 4
>>64438005
fuck i didn't mean to greentext that
>>64413619
I would've made a compelling friendship between obi wan and ani; Obi the obvious protagonist. No one will like this - but I would've honored the big reveal that Darth Vader was related to Luke in ESB. So I would've written the narrative as such that new viewers would think Darth Vader and Anikin were separate people.
First off, fix the characters. Make Anakin and Obi-Wan be portrayed similar to how they were in the Clone Wars cartoon, so that Anakin is actually a likable character. This means no killing children in Episode 2.
In Episode 1, forget all this "trade embargo" "blockade" crap, straight up the Trade Federation has staged a droid invasion of Alderaan (to give a reason for Leia to be raised on Alderaan) in exchange for the support of Count Dooku in the upcoming separatist uprising. Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon have been dispatched to Alderaan to investigate, and let's skip all that bullshit in space, and underwater, the film opens with the two infiltrating the capital city, fighting droids and shit. Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon rescue Padme and all that, and end up having to stop by at Tattooine because of damage sustained on the way out of Alderaan. They land in the middle of the desert, and are found by a young (think Luke's age) Anakin, who says that he will give them shelter at his home. They stick around to make repairs, during the time Qui-Gon feels the force strong in Anakin, and Obi-Wan begins to form a bond with him, and Anakin develops a crush on Padme. When they leave to Coruscant to report the situation, Anakin stows away, despite Qui-Gon telling Obi-Wan that Anakin had to remain here. The Palpatine plot basically happens as standard, and he becomes Chancellor, and then orders a detachment of Republic soldiers to accompany a small Jedi force to aid Alderaan's security forces in ending droid occupation of Alderaan. Qui-Gon makes sure that Anakin doesn't come along for this, so he steals a Republic starfighter and joins the Republic pilots in the attack on the droid command ship. Qui-Gon is killed in battle with Count Dooku, and Dooku pushes Obi-Wan into a hole in that reactor room, similar to that one shot where Maul has the high ground, and escapes before Obi-Wan recovers. Obi-Wan takes Anakin as his apprentice.
Episode 2 probably needs some even more major reworking, since a good portion of the movie is dedicated to a shitty romance plot. Don't really have ideas for how to fill the movie, but the general premise is cut out a lot of the romance, get someone who understands human beings to write the romance that is present, and make the clones a secret army that Dooku was developing for the CIS. Obi-Wan's investigation leads him to the same conclusion as the current movie, that the clones were commissioned as an army for the Republic, but when they actually bring clones to Coruscant, they turn on them and start destroying everything. Give a real sense of fear and desperation on the side of the Republic in this clone war.
Another idea would be to combine the major plot beats of the two movies I described into one, having the second movie take place during the Clone Wars.
Episode 3 just needs a more likable Anakin with a better relationship with Obi-Wan and a less cringey romance to work with, and just in general a more competent writer to look over the script, the structure of it is fine.
unless you guys are going to post general problems and solutions i suggest not posting plot ideas unless you really think you can do better than the two/three good ones itt
>>64438873
I disagree. No one poster here has a quality movie script, but seeing the ideas thrown around is interesting in total.
>>64432053
>>64431846
He shouldn't look like a male model. He should look like a young version of the original force ghost.
