Just saw the Hateful Eight. Is this Tarantino's best work as of date?
SHUT THE DOOR
Literally a cuck flick.
>>64383185
Has Michael Madsen which is + and Walt Goggins another +, but doesn't have Kurt Russell killing 88 yakuza members or being trained by old-wise kung fu zen master, sooo I'm torn.
>>64383185
if you like big black dinguses, then yes.
>>64383185
tarantino has no best work it's all trash
>>64383301
Wow, Guy said that?
>>64383301
I've walked out of the theater after every movie I watch
>>64383185
Yes, except the opposite.
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YOU NEED TO NAIL THE DOOR SHUT
>>64383339
Wait until you get shot in one.
You'll be carried out of the theater at best.
>A disturbing part of this film is the graphic detail Samuel L. Jackson gets into describing him raping and sexually assaulting a white man. While Quentin Tarantino makes cameos in his movies he doesn't here, he does for the first time in this movie start narrating right after this descriptive scene. He is lisping with delight as he talks.
>>64383381
DEEPEST
LORE
for me that's tarantino masterpiece
everything here is fuckin perfect
people won't like it because they'll find it boring
but nobody can't say that this movie is shit
>>64383301
classic Guy
It's definitely excellent, but it's one of his upper-mid tier works.
liked it a lot better than django. But it doesnt top Resevoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction. Id say slightly above average for Tarantino and a very good flick overall
>>64383381
THERES A GODAMN BLIZZARD OUT THERE
I prefer gritty Tarantino over cartoony Tarantino, so I don't think it's his best. Fucking loved it though.
>>64383185
no, his worst
>>64383381
I really QT should have put more scenes of people nailing the door shut, theres was only 3 scenes of that god dammit I wanted more door nailing
>>64383647
What's the matter? Did the word "Nigger" offend you?
>>64383185
No, but it's much better than Django.
Of course plebs will hate it since instead of being an epic western with a sympathetic hero, quirky dialogue and fast pacing, is a slow mistery drama where everyone is an asshole.
>>64383682
if it did, then it's likely that anon would call django the worst.
if you're not a retard, that is.
>>64383618
>gritty over cartoony
That's exactly how this film was though.
>drama
It's a fucking comedy. His last three movies have been violent black comedies.
>>64383704
none of tarantino's films have fast pacing, every fucking scene goes on for 10 minutes, what on earth are you shitting about
>>64383704
Mannix was a good guy.
>>64383185
I think it is. Most especially it's the first film he's done where two characters I cared about got to bond without one or both being dead at the end, which made it almost touching for me.
>>64383618
I don't think Tarantino has ever done a "gritty" film, it's just that it took a while for people to start recognizing his quirks for what they were.
people were much less used to graphic violence in popular movies in the early 90s and so he could get away with making stylized lulzfests that got treated like lowkey art films because of how he executes them.
It was mediocre like everything else he has done since Pulp Fiction.
And the best post Pulp film is Django.
And the best fim he's been involved with is True Romance.
The best script he has written is Kill Bill.
I will not entertain opposing views, so don't bother responding.
>>64383749
Compared to this, they do.
>>64383749
Django was relatively brisk until they get to Candyland and the whole film started to regress into being a blaxploitation parody.
>>64383729
It was full of comedic dialogue and over the top violence like his last two films. It's bloody, but it's not gritty.
same old tired Tarantino formula:
>70s homage
>actors who ere big in the 80s and 70s
>mixing parts of other better movies instead of doing new material
>quirky cameos
>3 hours long (could have easily been cut to 90 minutes)
>all characters sound like Taratino
>gratuitous violence
he peaked with Jackie Brown
>>64383788
>And the best post Pulp film is Django.
>And the best fim he's been involved with is True Romance.
>The best script he has written is Kill Bill.
How can one faggot be so wrong?
>>64383788
I will not entertain opposing views, so don't bother responding.
Okay, but you are a cunt.
>>64383185
not gonna watch this but just please confirm if this is true:
Fucking alpha nigger kills everyone and wins the game!
any truth to this?
>>64383825
>forgetting to greentext
Well fuck, guess I'm a cunt too.
>>64383301
my friend said his girlfriends sister and her boyfriend walked out right when it started because Kurt Russel hit that chick in the face and YOU SHOULD NEVER HIT A WOMAN!
>>64383728
There can't be two worsts you fucking isiot
>>64383775
>without one or both being dead at the end,
:|
Stop lying to yourself anon
>>64383775
Reservoir Dogs did the same thing, by the way Jackson and Goggins died at the end
>>64383849
Yeah, because hitting a woman is sexist but hitting a man ain't.
>tfw I love all of Tarantino's work apart from fucking Death Proof
>>64383806
The tone and characters were far less cartoony and over the top than in Kill Bill, IB and Django.
>>64383842
very little
>>64383881
uhhh who fought all the wars in the world? MEN. imagine a female world?? peaceful
>>64383842
No, everyone dies.
>>64383788
naaa
the best post Pulp film is Jackie Brown
the best fim he's been involved with is Jackie Brown
The best script he has written is Jackie Brown
>>64383682
the characters remain totally faceless, the dialogues feel forced, the whole story didn't really convince me in any way and felt like a cheap excuse to throw in these random characters in the same place
there's a lot of style over substance (obviously), but it felt out of place many times like when they carefully go in position to shoot denfenseless women and give each other signals.. what for? It just dragged on the scene
the comic look of exploding heads and shit also isn't funny anymore and felt out of place, I guess the dark comedy touch was necessary to seperate it from reservoir dogs, but it's never exciting like reservoir dogs, I didn't care about the characters at all, I just waited for them to die so I could turn it off
all in all, it's the first movie of tarantino that I didn't like and thought he's starting to turn into a hack
>>64383749
Django Unchained and Kill Bill I are most definitely fast paced movies
>>64383185
Does anyone else find scenes like this more disturbing than gore/torture porn?
I feel I'm desensitized to most everything, but this is the kind of shit that still gives me the fucking chip. I don't like seeing kindness being met with cruelty, hospitality with hostility, etc.
Like imagine if your mom made a batch of cookies for your classmates or coworkers and suddenly one them just walks up to her, knocks the tray out of her hands, spits in her face and laughs.
I realize that was the point and I'm going to be called a pussy or autistic for even bringing it up, but I just really hate seeing bad things happen to good, decent people. It's like watching an animal abuse video.
Most horror movies are easy to watch because the victims are all cunts and assholes. But this plucky kiwi didn't deserve that shit.
Whatever.
Based Tarantino.
>>64383854
>>64383874I know that Warren at least died, the point is the movie ended with them being bros, like in The Thing. it's a question of the way the movie treated the emotional arc: they administered justice, overcame their differences and had a laugh, roll credits. Tarantino is actually amazingly shit at delivering this in the majority of his films.
wasn't bad, wasn't good.
literal 5/10 flick
>>64383788
Spoken like a true redditor
>>64383963
The whole story was a lie though.
>>64383842
not at allhe hates that one general because they both fought in the same battle and the rebel general killed a bunch of surrendering black union soldiers. The movie basically ends with the black guy and some southern confederate raider working together and being bros
>>64383967
>they administered justice
That wasn't justice, did you miss the dialogue about the difference between justice and revenge at the beginning of the movie?
>>64383967
>being bros, like in The Thing
are you high? Mcready was salty as fuck for losing to the Thing (Childs) they werent bros
>>64383874
Reservoir dogs ends with the characters being very obviously shot dead, not with their final fates being implied.
RD ending is shit anyway because the undercover cop confessing is undermotivated and Harvey Keitel's character is straight out of a Marvel comic strip.
>>64383967
>>64384028
also
>the movie ended with them being bros, like in The Thing
Uh, at the end of The Thing the nigger is likely an alien, they're not bros at all.
>>64383819
>>64383988
>>64383917
I know more about film than this entire board collectively.
This is not b8 or hyperbole.
You'd do well to listen to me rather than argue from a place of ignorance and remain plebs.
Just sayin.
>>64384049
>the undercover cop confessing is undermotivated
you are autistic if you couldnt understand why he did that
>>64384049
if you didnt pick up the subtlety about the relationship between Roth and Keitel characters I recommend to please go watch the movie again
>>64384028
you mean the dialogue delivered by one of the outlaws?
given Tarantino's filmography, do you actually think he has a higher regard for passionless execution than the bad men getting shot in the face?
they were quoting Kurt Russell's words about hanging mean bastards. Sam Jackson's dingus story was also motivated by his desire to take an opportunity to deliver justice and he laughed a LOT during that.
>>64384047
>>64384069
the tone of the ending of the Thing would be completely different if we knew for certain that Childs was the Thing. if a lack of ambiguity was important they would have included it in the film.
online theories are fun, but MacReady drinking was actually a decision to end a film about mistrust with that implied human solidarity. it doesn't matter at that point whether Childs is the Thing or not from the point of view of the character because he can't do anything about it - the point is that he doesn't know but decides to trust him anyway.
>>64384096
>muh honor
japanese aren't autistic at all right buddy? a savvy new york cop would kill himself for no raisin durrrrrrrr
>>64383381
WOOD ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH.
IT'S GONNA BLOW RIGHT OPEN.
GOD DAMN IT.
>>64384077
Hahaha...poop
>>64383963
So its pretty much confirmed this story was a lie right?
>General says he knows his son is dead because he would have definitely come back home by now
>This means he knows the reason why his son left
>he would have known his son went to hunt Warren down, and him not coming back means Warren killed him instead
But the general doesnt really give a shit about Warren. He doesnt really know who he is and when he learns hes just like "well fuck that nigga!"
>>64384096
I understood why the movie wanted us to think the character did it. I just didn't buy it as real human behavior. It was a Shocking Movie Ending to me.
>hurr autism
>>64384175
>I have arrested development and cant understand emotions so the movie sucks!
I'll try to explain this to you, but they basically became friends while he was doing undercover work and Keital was the only one looking after him and trying to help him when he was dying and he felt guilty for lying to him
"The nigger!?"
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>>64384189
>>64384047
>>64384069
>>64383854
>>64383874
THIS THREAD IS NOW ABOUT PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET NOT BEING ABLE TO COPE WITH AMBIGUITY
REMINDER THAT IF A MOVIE DOESN'T TELL YOU SOMETHING IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE THE UNCERTAINTY IS IMPORTANT TO THE STORY SOMEHOW
GO FUCKING WATCH A SERIOUS MAN OR SOMETHING AND STOP CIRCLEJERKING OVER WHAT 'REALLY' HAPPENED IN A FICTIONAL STORY.
>>64384173
again are you high?
Mcready doesnt trust Childs he knows he is the thing and offers the drink the same way he poured liquor on the chess computer and the beginning of the movie, he acknowledges The Thing but he is a sore loser and is going to kill it anyway, according to the script Mcready has a flamethrower hide under his clothes, even if he kills the thing he lost anyway and he is salty as fuck theres no happy ending about trust here
>>64383949
no it shows that Tarantino has an underlying sense of fair play in spite of his memery that he differentiated between this kind of violence and the mucking around in the main timeline.
i'm a high school drama teacher and im going to adapt it into a play for my students
>>64384286
>STOP TALKING ABOUT MOVIES ON A MOVIE BOARD REEEE!
>>64384173
Sure, it's left ambiguous.
Still, you can't say there was trust. Those two were just wounded animals studying each others and waiting to die, I didn't feel any solidarity or understanding at the end of that movie.
>>64384290
>in the script
yeah I think Carpenter went with a different ending on purpose.
he could have revealed to the audience that MacReady had a flamethrower but he didn't.
>are you high?
it's the result of me watching movies and looking at what actually happens in them instead of finding out about the stories they tell from DVD commentaries and scripts that weren't shot in the way the screenwriter wanted.
>>64384336
needing everything to be fixed in a single incontestable version of events that everyone agrees is correct is much more autistic.
>>64384405
>discussing an ambiguous part of a movie and coming up with your ideas of what happened and then sharing them with others is autistic!
yes, never discuss movies. Just watch them, and then never think about them or share your opinions about them with others!
>>64384116
Do you think SJ was a positive character?
Do you think any of them was in the position of administering justice?
Usually violence in Tarantino is just ludic, but in this movie they took the time to bring up the issue and even express different viewpoints about it, so it was abviously intentional.
>>64384286
A Serious Man was, like most Coen's movies, about the impotence of the individual against life.
It had nothing to do about ambiguity in fiction.
Why did Minnie let a Mexican into that place?
>>64384555
She didn't notice he was a mexican.
Or it was just another lie.
>>64383301
is it in theaters yet?
>>64383881
but hitting black man is racist
>>64383301
>walking out of the theater when a movie offends you
Do americans really do this?
>>64384290
>offers the drink the same way he poured liquor on the chess computer and the beginning of the movie
This is what "poetry" in a movie should look like. Fuck that's good directing I didn't even notice it the first time.
The Thing is my favorite movie, each interpretation and viewing is better than the last.
>>64383881
>men can fight back
>women are weak, a teenage boy can beat the average woman up
This is why men dont hit women, is it so hard to understand.
>>64384708
>But guess what?
The suspense was killing me. Masterfully written.
>>64384740
Women are weak because they don't get hit enough.
It did not need to be three hours long and it dragged accordingly.
>>64383917
>that guy who thinks pretending Jackie Brown is amazing makes him a patrician
grow up. Its a mediocre movie
>>64383816
>>70s homage
>>actors who ere big in the 80s and 70s
>>mixing parts of other better movies instead of doing new material
>>quirky cameos
>>all characters sound like Taratino
but you liked Jackie Brown? lol fuck off
>>64384809
>dragged
If flew by for me. Didn't feel that long at all.
>>64383949
zoe bell is getting sexier everytime i see her. i can see why qt is so smitten with her.
>>64384375
Mcready is always armed you stupid mongoloid, Carpenter didnt show the flamethrower because he is not a hack and trust the audience is smart enough to understand Mcready's character
>>64384173
It's heavily implied that MacReady is going to attempt to kill Childs. He offers him a drink, like he did to the computer in the beginning of the film, before he dumped the drink over the hardware, destroying it.
This is part of why the Thing is a great horror film.
>>64384831
not enough explosions, gore or samurais? yea I hated that too instead we got real characters and a top tier drama about getting old and missed expectations
>>64385192
>top tier drama
lol. You think anyone is impressed because you pretend to like a mediocre crime drama from the 90s?
>>64385234
you are the reason Tarantino doesnt even try anymore and will continue to release more mediocre grindhouse gory 70s homage movies
is not pretension anon go watch Jackie Brown is an adult movie and QT has never been so restrained and focus since then is a shame because he is really talented but has decided to hide himself in what made him famous and panders to that audience
>>64385344
>i randomly bring up jackie brown for no reason in every tarantino thread no matter what and go on and on about how AMAZING it is when its really just a mediocre boring crime drama!
>I totally am not an insecure fuck at all!
You calling it an "adult" movie is the most cringe thing I've seen in this thread. You seem like the kind of person who unironically thinks theres a difference between "movies, flicks, and films"
>>64383201
THERE'S A GODDAMN BLIZZARD OUT THERE!
This movie feels like a play
SHUT THE DOOR
Why is this allowed?
>>64383185
not even
it was western reservoir dogs
except it wasn't good
the tone was all over the place, it had experimental bits where Tarantino actually narrated some parts out of nowhere by reading the script. The first time it was to explain to the audience about the guy who poisoned the coffee but then there was no reason to narrate.
Then the mood changes from serious/casual banter to white man sucking black dick, to Samuel Jackson's slow motion yell, to the last scenes being just dark humor
Don't get me wrong, it was definitely a Tarantino film, it has his style all over it with the music and the banter, but this is just not a strong movie by him
>>64383704
at least Django was consistent
Tarantino tried a slow paced western/mystery and ended up becoming a gory scooby doo episode
>>64383949
oh I thought that was the most arresting scene in the whole movie, you know what's gonna happen and you want more than anything else for it not to happen.
>>64383381
>complaining about the door
>the whole cabin has 1 inch gaps in the walls during a blizzard
How epic can a movie that plays in one room be?
>>64383949
I'm right there with you.
You know what's going to happen and you know there's no way for any of the characters to get out of it.
>>64383424
boo fuckin hoo
>>64383729
nah. tarantino hasnt made any gritty realism movies since the 90s
>First carriage we see has all the "good" guys and the main villain.
>The rest of the people already in the cabin are all villains and one indifferent old guy.
>First watch of the movie you don't know this and don't know who to trust.
I'm not too sure Tarantino pulled it off that well but this story/concept fascinates me.
>>64389417
Why are some people so pathetic?
>>64384700
I usually piss in the communal theater shower and throw my steamed crab legs at the screen
Those bitches knocked out front teeth had me incredibly uncomfortable for the rest of the movie.
It made my skin crawl
Goggins was p based.
I'm glad he finally got a movie role where he was a main character.
>>64389973They dug coal together
BIG
BLACK
JOHNSON
>>64384189
I don't think Warren was in the cabin when the General spoke about his son.
It's likely that Warren really did kill his son. Whether there was gay sexing or not, who knows, but wouldn't that make Warren a fag?
>>64383381
YOU NEED TWO BOARDS!
>>64384555
>>64384593
I don't understand why a nigger in a western would be racist against Mexicans. Is it because they took her jobs or don't speak 'Merrican or some shit?
>>64383207
>actual five minute scene where a black character describes, in detail, the oral rape of a white man
BRAVO, QUENTIN. BRAVO
>>64390062
Not under nigger moral values. Is not gay to fuck a man in prison for example, getting fucked is. Ancient greeks also had this kind of concept, the fucked represents the passive-receiving-feminine part of the relationship, while masculinity in the other subject is empowered.
Of course it's still a gay relationship, but when you have a fucked up way of understanding domination and so on it becomes pretty logic
BIG
BLACK
DONGERINO
BIG
BLACK
DINGUS
>>64390202
Nobody wants to be at the bottom of the totem pole
YOU GOTTA KICK THE DOOR OPEN
