http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/12/31/the-force-awakens-is-the-worst-thing-ever/
>caring about the opinions of others
>>64347363
>how do i get people to read my review
Milo "gaymergay" Yiannopoulos
>>64347363
>TFA is great but flawed
>TFA is too derivative to be enjoyed
>TFA is now the worst movie ever
Yeah, I'm not clicking that contrarian click bait. We all know the truth always lies somewhere in the middle.
DUDE
CLICKBAIT
LMAO
>>64347416
This
>>64347363
>he shills breitbart for free
pathetic
god they're still asshurt over there not being a white guy lead?
His 'point' on Boyega is extremely fucking stupid.
>hurr durr a black guy is the deuteragonist instead of a white guy, this makes me angry, I'll just say im angry at him being for being a token instead of black so people don't think im a raging racist
>>64347462
>what is the honeymoon period wearing off
Normie's are finally starting to say it sucks also.
>>64347363
Max will be happy to know he has at least one bro on his side.
>>64347455
It even says James Delingpole in the title
>>64347504
He is a token though. JJ hired him entirely because he was black.
That is definition tokenism.
>>64347536
Sup reddit.
>>64347394
Geez. I only posted it because there are hardly any negative reviews of the movie and the consensus on /tv/ seems to be majority negative.
>>64347536
>JJ hired him entirely because he was black.
can we kill this fucking meme already
attackofthefanboy.com/news/john-boyega-describes-finn-in-star-wars-7-the-force-awakens/
>Boyega first described on the first time J.J. Abrams called him to be in Star Wars 7: The Force Awakens. Abrams was a fan of Attack of the Block “and we were waiting for a project where we could collaborate” he said
also
>complaining about tokensim
there has been a black token in each star wars movie(except 4 I think) the only reason people are pissed over this so called "token" is because he is one of the main characters instead of being a background or secondary character.
>>64347607
this isn't a review of the movie, dipshit
>clickbait from a shitty far-right outlet
NOPE
>>64347615
>there has been a token in all the star wars
>not the first
>and never as a main character
Yah, why are all these shitlords complaining, every single star wars has had a black main character, and no white leads.
>>64347363
>Breitbart
That site is constantly contradicting itself to say whatever baits the most clicks.
post the contents of the article
>kikebart
>cuckbart
no one cares, kill yourself
>>64347615
>see a black
>think, hey he is not terrible
>think I want to work with him again
>announce you gave him the role of a white character in a million dollar franchise
>do not consult with disney first
>disney cannot do shit now
Nah son, JJ abrams hired him entirely because he was a nigger, and he did it in secret from disney. Then announced it to the press so that disney could not override him.
He also hired him in secret like that because he knew he was shooting the financials in the foot with his move. SW is all about merchandise, and nigger finn is not selling for shit, just as everyone knew he would not sell.
>>64347462
How many people have to say it's mediocre before they're no longer "contrarian"?
It didn't matter how good or bad TFA was on release, fanboys who saw it in the first week were always going to celebrate it as THE BESTEST MOVIE EVER! Which is exactly what happened.
Now more rational, objective people are seeing it and a lot of them are completely underwhelmed.
>>64347764
Here's your reply.
I just saved you hours of refreshing.
>>64347363
Christ this embarrassing, Breibart was never good but its become /pol/'s version of Buzzfeed
>>64347504
>implying Finn wasn't Comedy Side Nigger #256
I think it's funny when critics act like American films still have some dignity left. It's all the same shit, just watch it and enjoy it for what it is.
>>64347836
Don't you ever get tired of fishing for replies? We both know you don't believe a word you post.
>>64347890
I believe all of it. If you think TFA is a great movie then I feel sorry for you :)
>>64347764
>nigger finn is not selling for shit
source?
>>64347836
It IS mediocre. The contrarian opinion is that it's terrible/the worst thing ever. There's so much shut that it doesn't even come close to bad (by movie standards). I mean, did anyone even actually go see the Point Blank remake?
>>64347950
>I believe all of it.
Why do you lie like that?
Doesn't it get tiring after a while?
>>64347954
Fair enough. I agree it was mediocre.
I think those that are calling it shit though are just pissed off by its lack of creativity or originality.
People don't take up opinions just to contradict others. Even on 4chan.
>>64347764
Hello, Reddit. Enjoying your stay?
>>64347363
Lel
BASED
A
S
E
D
>>64347363
>TFA SUCKS!!!!111 If you disagree.. th-then you had your brain altered by chemtrails!!!!
holy fuck what a faggot autist.
>>64348092
>reddit fucking loves the movie
>reddit fucking loves nigger finn
>some retard is calling people from reddit when they say the movie sucks and finn was cast as a token nigger
Get the fuck out you faggot
>LOOK AT ME! I HATE SOMETHING THAT'S UNIVERSALLY PRAISED! I'M DIFFERENT!
Fuck off.
based breitbart
>>64347953
Its all over twitter
Check twitter
*pulls out and points to phone*
>breitbart
the only people that read this shit are true cuckservatives or GG children
>>64347615
Breitbart really is the worst thing ever, so they should know.
>>64347363
jesus christ, does that constitute a proper review these days?
>Breitbart
>>64350020
this isnt the same as casting someone for their race
What sort of faggot reviewer spends their New Years Eve posting a star wars review for attention ?
>>64347363
>Breitbart is shit
ftfy
>>64350191
Hello reddit.
>>64350020
The character didn't have a race written in before
Boyega is talented as fuck
Why does someone doing something other than the same thing we've been doing for over a century cause you this much asspain?
>>64349729
here here
Classic Delingpole
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/04/game-of-thrones-series-five-review-daenerys-targaryen-doesnt-show-her-breasts-nearly-often-enough/
>>64347363
>breitbart
>>>/pol/
>>64347954
>contrarian
you keep using that word, but I don't think you know what it means
>>64347416
>>64347455
>>64347462
>>64347469
>>64347478
>>64347480
>>64347504
>>>/co/
>>64347363
milo is so fucking based, no wonder the lolberal retards on this board are throwing a fucking hissy fit
>>64347462
>ZOMG TFA IS THE BEST MOVIE EVER
>"worst movie ever and here's why"
>TRUTH LIES IN THE MIDDLE IT'S OKAY
BTFO
>>64350313
Because Star wars The Force Awakens is glaringly bad and it pisses me the fuck off when idiot arsed dick suckers praise it as the second coming of 1977 and A new Hope when it's anything but.
GOERGE LUCAS SHOWED WORLDS....J.J. doesn't even try to build a world. And all of his shots are too close in and narrow. ON the big screen it all felt trapped and compartmentalized. In the Prequels all Establishing SHOTS WERE FUCKING EPICALLY HUGE! and don't get me started about the bigger badder and equally as flawed, death star. or how mary sue rey could out force use a guy who frooze a blaster bolt, and a pilot and could do force interrogate. this movie was bad, really fucking bad, and the girl power Disney Power Princess of might who believes in herself and the inner power of her femininity, could get fucked along with Jar Jar and the Rat.
there's a movie out called hardware. saw it twenty plus years ago and in it there's a heroine done right.
Clickbait can be conservative too.
Trash it.
>redditbart
no thanks
>>64347363
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
Why are you retards getting so angry? He's pretty much spot on with everything, TFA sucked, had no element of originality and yet everyone is completely blind to it because DUDE. STAR WARS. LMAO.
Maybe it will taken a year or two until people can objectively address the film without their retarded fanboy mentality clouding their judgement
>>64352331
>Why are you retards getting so angry?
Tumblr is always angry.
>>64352349
>>64352349
This. Just fucking look at this thread. It's full of butthurt leftists who are unable to handle that someone linked a conservative news site, when Salon and huffpost clickbait garbage gets spammed here daily.
>>64348019
>People don't take up opinions just to contradict others. Even on 4chan.
I've seen literally hundreds of people admitting to doing that on this board alone in the past 7 years.
>>64352349
>>64352331
I'm conservative and you guys are fucking delusional.
>>64347394
>>64347416
>>64347455
>>64347462
>>64347469
>>64347478
>>64347480
>>64347504
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>>64347566
>>64347615
>>64347656
>>64347664
>>64347690
>>64347686
>>64347708
>>64347764
>>64347859
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>>64350245
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>>64350313
>>64351470
>>64351902
>>64352249
oh reddit
DUDE WHITE PEOPLE LMAO
Breitbart is right, you know?
TFA is a stain on what was once considered a great story.
>ACORNbart
I don't need the Conservative Huffington Post to tell me what I already know
>>64352227
>>64352249
>>64352320
another Heroine done right, was the Oracle from the Matrix series. the Oracle was literally the Architect of all the events in the Trilogy. she, like a great Chess player manoeuvred everyone into place.
Of course the white cis scum who was the builder and maker of all things, The Architect, saw through her game and called it a dangerous one. But like a seasoned aged Mum, the Oracle smiled at her old Husband and said, "Change always is."
A true and real heroine and one who didn't know if her plan would find fruition but believed and hoped it would. That's a heroine.
And sadly the Matrix series is one of those flukes moderately competent film-makers or great ones are sometimes capable of when the stars align in just the right, but sadly, it's almost always a perfect shot but once in their career. George Lucas, Steven Spielberg with Close Encounters (Yes he had more success but nothing as epic as close encounters. Sadly, close encounters was eclipsed by Star Wars), David Lynch's Twin Peaks, and a few others.
J.J. and walt the rat disney, need not apply.
>>64352490
>I'm conservative
That doesn't matter you fucking retard. There is nothing wrong with what >>64352331 said. Faggots get their panties in a bunch over a movie when their current nostalgia high blinds them to flaws of the film so they sneer and bitch about anyone saying something negative about it. The fuck does being conservative have to do with anything? Is it because its a breitbart link? Get the fuck out of here faggot
>>64352613
I think you meant to direct your post at this guy >>64352407
too.
Also
>Get the fuck out of here faggot
Stellar argumentation.
>>64352694
>stellar argument
>"I'm conservative and you guys are fucking delusional"
kek, you are faggot and you should fuck off you shitposting tard
>>64352613
>so they sneer and bitch about anyone saying something negative about it
You are only proving my point with this sentence. No one is sneering or bitching in this about it. You faggots are being taunted and trolled because you wanted it to be IBG The Movie and a box office failure and it blew up in your face so now you dogpile on one talking point.
>Muh rehash
You shouldn't take yourself too seriously.
>>64352751
I'm sorry anon. I forgot we live in a world where you are allowed to incessantly run your mouth like an uneducated child while others are held to a higher standard of communication.
Delingpole is based as fuck.
>>64352794
> You faggots are being taunted and trolled because you wanted it to be IBG The Movie and a box office failure and it blew up in your face so now you dogpile on one talking point.
>taunted and trolled
wow, the internet is serious business to you huh?
TFA was impressively boring and unoriginal. Thoroughly disappointing and Breitbart have hit the nail on the head with this article.
>>64352510
It's funny how 4chan's idea of reddit is "anyone who disagrees with 4chan"
Everywhere else I go on the internet they think 4chan and reddit are both hellholes full of MRAs and white supremacists.
Great review and great points that have not been brought up before and are totally not moot points
>pissing shit because breitbart was linked
>when huffington post gets linked, nobody gives a shit
>>64316029
Go fuck yourself, reddit.
>>64352880
>copying what I said
you shouldn't throw the whole fishing pole in faggot. keep telling yourself you are impartial and just fucking with people while you are clearly enraged. I'm sure it will work out some day for you anon.
>>64352956
One is an uninspired review and another is about the memetastic George Lucas, figure it out
>>64352902
>"anyone who disagrees with 4chan"
No, they're branded reddit because rather than dissect the content of the article they throw a little hissy fit because the article is hosted on a conservative website.
Why are libtards incapable of entertaining anything that doesn't align with their delusional ideology?
>>64353041
>one is uninspired clickbait
>the other is uninspired clickbait
Go back to reddit.
>>64352956
>huffpost clickbait gets posted
>only one brave anon calls out the clickbait
Jesus. /tv/ has really gone to reddit.
>>64353057
Then why did you link people who were not having a hissy fit about the article?
Oh right, you are shitposting.
>conservatives being this triggered by criticism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9J7PFAzrQs
>>64352510
Don't reply to every fucking post in the thread you degenerate newfag. It's annoying you illiterate fuckwit.
>>64347504
The movie was shit regardless.
>>64352510
is this srsly the new me me of 2016?
>>64353078
Contents of both articles are relevant to whether people are going to call out its clickbait-iness. Are you really surprised that people are calling the Breitbart article clickbait since it 'shits' on their precious new movie, as opposed to another clickbait article that doesn't directly shit on the precious new movie?
>>64352889
it was to sell tiaras and toys to tens of millions of girls who wouldn't have been a fan of star wars otherwise. it was to sell shit and rides and more shit and even more rides, and even more inconsequential shit. Disney knew that their merchandise would make them way more than they gave Lucas and as ftty said, "straight to the bank with this, Ha Ho Ha Hawww!"
Mary Sue Rey, a glaring Dues Ex Machina who is all powerful for no reason, a sloppy done mix match of what could be called an imation, and a shitty one at that, of the Rebels and the Empire, and the huger yet infinitely uninspired and pathetically executed sub plot, the bigger and better yet just as fucking flawed, death star.
everyone's looking for Luke, Rey can fly the Falcon in a dog fight through the innards of a ship, and the x wing run on the super death star.
it's like Jar Jar and the Rat along with Marshall wanted to tick all the shit that happened in the OT, X wing run on death star, check, death star, check, obi wan versus vader? Yes we got that, we got Mary Sue Rey, a feminine icon and a natural with the force because much like girls in the army, there's no actual effort actually necessary for anything.
and this shit is telling young girls that so long as they believe in themselves, they could accomplish wonders; no work, no sacrifice, no pain for gains, just believe in yourself and the hidden power of your magical tiara disney princess of power.
and yet Luke was a cocky kid who trained with Yoda for a spell and believed in himself and was desperate to save his friends from the vision Yoda saw, and Vader politely shoved his naive shit right up in his gut for him.
>>64347363
Movie was total shit.
Good that people are calling it out.
>linking to clickbait
>>64353251
Not surprised.
Just disappointed.
>>64353290
>crying clickbait when you disagree
>letting other clickbait from huffington post slide because you either agree with it or don't disagree with it
Try reddit, where you can downvote to maintain your precious echo chamber.
>>64353155
>Liberal faggots being triggered by Breitbart articles
Spot the Redditor.
Breitbart is the least cucked conservative gutter rag on the web.
>>64352956
Huffpo isn't the liberal Breitbart, that's Gawker.
>>64353057
See that's the point I'm making - I know liberals, and to liberals reddit isn't a liberal website, it's an MRA website.
>>64352956
>b-b-but /pol/ guys! ban /pol/ guys! p-p-pol!
>>64347954
If that's the case, the contrarian opinion would be that it's good, not that "yes it's bad but it's even worse than you say"
>>64353408
>implying /tv/ isn't an echo chamber of distaste for TFA, as evidenced by redditor accusations
>>64353490
There's no redditor "accusations." It's a call-out. You use reddit, and got called out. Deal with it.
>>64353552
Solid evidence
>>64353435
>and to liberals reddit isn't a liberal website, it's an MRA website.
Is that why reddit is in love with Bernie Sanders? Is that why every meta subreddit is full of SJWs? Please fuck off with your attempted sliding.
Just look at this thread. Literally dozens of shitposts because the article is hosted on breitbart. It simply wouldn't happen for an article linked from left wing clickbait. Yet you are in denial about the lolberal shitposting and sliding on /tv/
>>64353597
>posts reddit opinions
>"b-but i-i-i'm not r-r-reddit, p-prove it"
You've proved it with your redditposts.
>>64353490
>implying /tv/ isn't an echo chamber of distaste for TF
is that why this thread has been spammed and shitposted to death by TFA fanboys and leftist manchildren who simply cannot handle the fact that an evil right-wing news site has been linked?
>>64353597
here is the evidence you retard >>64352510
Nothing but shitposting and sliding. It's hilarious
>>64353662
>reddit opinions
I'm glad you know what reddit's opinions are on movies, you must go on there
>>64353701
I don't need to go there.
You faggots come here.
Dude. Just go back. You'll be happier when you're home.
>>64353690
Don't think all that evidence has anything to do with Reddit, just has to do with Star Wars fanboys who are triggered by other people's opinions
>>64353490
>implying it is
This thread and others are clear evidence that that isn't true.
But if you want to test it yourself, try talking trash about TFA on /tv/ and see how quickly other anons disagree. I've done it, and some anons are quick now to defend their beloved movie.
>say "tfa is just anh"
>anons trip over themselves to say "meme" and tell you you're wrong
>>64353772
you don't really believe that, you're just making excuses now. This board has had a problem with leftist shitposting for years now. The sooner hiro make a capeshit board to quarantine you fags the better
>Breitbart
>gaymergate
Jesus, how embarrassing.
BREIT BART MALL COP
>>64353883
That's true now probably, but wasn't there a huge influx of Mary Sue posts, and also a huge influx of TFA fanboys claiming Luke Skywalker was one also (when TFA first came out)? Which then turned into people posting all of Luke Skywalker's flaws and showing Rey had none? Which then turned into TFA fanboys coming up with theories about Rey?
I personally just feel like the board is always battling two sides of an opinion. Whichever side is truly 'Reddit' is up to those who visit Reddit and see what their hivemind opinions are.
>some random dude shits on The Force Awakens
Fixed that for you OP
>>64353899
>This board has had a problem with leftist shitposting for years now.
That sounds like actual schizophrenia. Even if there is "leftist shitposting," it's not even noticeable next to the stormfront/pol shilling that infests literally every thread. You should really kill yourself if you believe muh leftists are the reason this board is bad.
>>64354164
underrated
>>64347363
fuck off
This review makes at most three good points before throwing the rest away while pandering to bitter idiots in what can at best be a pyhrric victory.
And I decided to comment on it, that's what's wrong with the age we live in - attention is finite and trash like this seeks to hook that valuable resource. Let this be a reminder to myself and a warning to others, be mindful of how you spend time. Garbage clickbait articles are a poor long term investment
>>64354194
>breitbart gets posted
>you shit all over yourself with "this is clickbait"
>huffington post gets posted
>"this is fine"
This is why people call you reddit.
>>64354194
Assume much? Huffpo is garbage too, merely another flavor.
>>64354487
Breitbart is reviewing the precious and infallible TFA, no wonder people call it clickbait. The huffington post article was not a review
>>64354295
>t's not even noticeable next to the stormfront/pol shilling that infests literally every thread
Can you post some examples? Where was the right wing boogeyarmy when huffington post was being shilled >>64316029 ?
>>64354487
>Reddit did 9/11
>>64354595
I never said it was a review, anon.
I said it was clickbait. And it was clickbait. It was clickbait the same way as this is clickbait.
The only difference is breitbart disagrees with your personal politics, while huffpo agrees. What this boils down to is you trying to create an echo chamber where only things that conform to your personal politics is acceptable. It has nothing to do with "clickbait."
There's a place that's already an echo chamber that will agree with how you feel. It's called reddit. Hence, go back to reddit.
>>64352902
>Everywhere else I go on the internet they think 4chan and reddit are both hellholes full of MRAs and white supremacists.
I assume you are being ironic because if not you are the most stupid person on this site. Either way top kek.
>>64352216
This fucking this JJ is a fucking hack honestly any other director couldn't have fucked it up this badly
>>64354707
Dude that's what I was just saying, I was being sarcastic with the 'precious and infallible' part. It's all confirmation bias. I'm agreeing with you.
People are calling out the Breitbart article as clickbait because it attacks TFA, where the huffpost didn't, so naturally some people are going to be triggered because it goes against their firmly held beliefs.
>>64347363
Honest the first hour while not being great was comfy and enjoyable. The second was utterly insipid and staying awake through it was an ordeal.
It's like they wanted to remove all the fat from the prequels but they removed so much only the bones remained.
Everything is clickbait, everything is meant to capture attention. I want to say part of me very much appreciates Breitbart for stirring the pot, because I am sick of the left as much as the right, which is why I find it frustrating when good points are thrown after bad because it makes it easy for people to lump them together and discuss them as a whole.
Everything is a circus, and we're fighting cultural battles through geek Fandom. Ridiculous, but a better avenue than violence.
>>64347764
See Disney isn't as cucked as we thought they were its fucking Jew Jew who made decisions to sabotage the series against disneys executives I bet they'll kill Finn off next movie to get back at JJs back stab
>>64353269
Same could be said for any movie which says to geeks as long as they are happy with themselves they will get the hot cheerleader instead of the reality of spending all their pocketmoney on merch of their waifu, sleeping with a stained body pillow and living in their moms basement all their lives. But i do not see people complaining about that.
>>64353409
Sure, sure.
>>64352216
>prequel apologist in full force
Go back to your white slavers George
>>64354650
It did tho.
>>64352216
>epically
b8
>>64347394
Well you sure do.
>>64347859
/pol/ doesn't like being pandered to either, Breitbart shills pretty hard there
>ITT: Conservicunts and Libtards
can you retards just fuck off and die already
>>64347954
>>64348019
As a movie, it was mediocre. No worse no better than your everyday Ironman or Spiderman movie. So yep, mediocre.
As a Star Wars movie, it was shit, because even when it copied the whole plot from ANH and had the characters and actors from the originals, it almost didn't feel like Star Wars at all.
Stormtroopers being swagtroopers, the villain being meme'd, the different pace, the teen nazi empire, etc. all those things are not bad per se but just feel awkward and annoying in a Star Wars movie.
>>64352216
>GOERGE LUCAS SHOWED WORLDS
Lucas is a hack, he stole the whole fucking story from Dune.
He made Graffiti before this. Also FOX used Lucas to make the original.
delingpole is an irl shitposter
>>64347363
It's a joke review, dude.
Read number 7.
> In one of the X-wing fighters, the co-pilot — or “back seat driver” as she should be more correctly called — is clearly identifiable as female. Yet at no stage during the attack is her fighter’s progress marred by poor map-reading, irksome injunctions to turn the windscreen wipers on or off and the music down, expressed anxieties about whether the fuel and oil levels have been checked recently, or indeed even low-level nagging and bickering and suggestions that the stubborn driver stop and ask for directions.
Lol, did no one actually read the review?
>>64355532
>everyday Ironman or Spiderman movie. So yep, mediocre.
What does this mean?
Iron Man 1 was amazing and revolutionary for super hero films.
Spider-Man... What? 1? From Raimi? You realize it was also above standard for super hero films and a good movie in it's own right, right?
well I'm a conservative but that won't stop me from admitting that breitbart is pure and utter shit run by whiny and useless little /pol/ faggots
>>64355532
>Stormtroopers being swagtroopers, the villain being meme'd, the different pace, the teen nazi empire, etc. all those things are not bad per se but just feel awkward and annoying in a Star Wars movie.
What does any of this mean, anon?
>Swagtroopers
Explain.
>Villain being meme'd
Explain
>Different pace
What?
>Teen nazi empire
... What?
>>64355775
I think he means Amazing Spiderman 1/2
>>64355863
Ah, okay. Well it's not even comparable to those two. Star Wars was way, way, better.
>>64352216
This desu, watching it on IMAX was claustrophobic, it was clearly designed as a smartphone movie.
>>64354460
>>64354374
Why do they need to search for Luke?
Why did Kylo turn to the Dark Side?
Why did the First Order come up?
Why is the Resistance sepperate from the Republic?
Why is Leia not with the Republic if she was Princess of the Rebellion?
Why did Luke exile himself instead of killing Kylo when he turned to the Dark Side?
Why does the orange imp have Anakin's lightsaber?
Why do they go see the orange imp at all?
Why did the FO build another death star?
Why did they blow up those republic planets, and why did they wait so long to do it?
Why does the FO wanna find Luke?
In fact, what do they even want at all?
List goes on, and these are all plot elements from the film as a standalone. A lot if which will go unexplained because the characters have no motives, no development.
Finn, Rey, Poe, we literally know NOTHING about them.
Finn's past being left out was exceptionally bad, since the film hinted to be going in that direction from the opening scene.
And that's not even getting into the HOWs, which are this film's most heinous crimes.
Like:
How did R2D2 wake up?
How did Poe survive and get back with resistance, and how did he lose his jacket?
How did Rey go SSJ on a sith lord?
How did the First Order get the money for the Starkiller base?
Most of these questions can be answered with a simple "to advance the plot." That's bad storytelling anon.
And don't say the sequels will answer it, because other books and media that set up sequels do a fair job at explaining the plot and characters on their own.
In LotR, we knew WHY Frodo had to go to Mordor, it wasn't left for the next film, in HP, we knew WHY Harry was sent to Hogwarts, we even knew he was special. It wasn't left hanging for Harry to pull a Deus Ex Machine, and then explained later that he was special. It was built up.
TFA fails at ALL of this.
>>64352510
>Only Reddit hates blatant clickbait
Brietbart is literally a right-wing HuffPo
>>64356417
>Why is Leia not with the Republic if she was Princess of the Rebellion?
Leia still is connected to the Senate, she wanted to go there to make a speech to them, in regards to getting the Senate to vote for war against the 1st Order.
Leia sent her underling instead, then the planet was blown up.
>>64355158
piss poor analogy. here's a better one, according to you and others, James Bond is a garbage man today, and then he's suddenly thrust into espionage and man of mystery stuff and now he's flying a Harriet because at the age of 4, he flew a crop duster with his dad, and because his uncle's an sas, he went on mock missions with his uncle for shits and giggles for a few months and stuff, so that now, he can fight with trained assassins and knows how every gun works because he plays call of duty and stuff..
that'd be a shitty unbelievable character, wouldn’t it?
like something bill murray or jackie chan would do.
>>64355237
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>>64355314
watch TFA again and try and note how much new it brings to the table. How much substance and how much of the universe it expands on the 6 existing movies
The answer is barely anything. Sure they changed the names of some things. Tattoine is now Jakku, The Rebellion is now the Resistance, the Empire is now the First Order, but sticking a new label on something doesn't make it new content.
The true crime of this movie is that it set the tone for the next two. It didn't just ruin this one movie, it made sure that the next 2 would do the exact same shit, by setting a broke and unusable framework for the whole trilogy.
It's focus group tested, mass marketed hollywood garbage. Gone is the spirituality, the homages, the awe for greater things. The paying respect to techniques, franchieses, movies and series that came before. Look up how much influence the original trilogy had. From Western movies to Samurai films, tons of stuff. This movie only has itself as a reference. It's a shallow copy of something far greater than the sum of its parts.
And this is why neohipsters will love it to death, it's their free ticket into the fandom. It's their way to shit on the whole thing. Expect people to say it's the best of all the movies so far, fully expect it. Expect people to reurgitate the same old bullshit arguments that have been circulating the internet pretty much since it exists.
Because people have to believe them, because they want to believe them. Because they sacrifice taste and a potential good movie for a sense of belonging.
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>>64353155
> idiots who label themselves as either liberal or conservative as if politics are a zero dimensional debate of singular black and white issues
Now I'm triggered.
>>64356802
It invokes Dune in the first 20 minutes.
The swallowing of the Tie fighter was exactly like a Spice Worm eating a Harvester.
Using Max Von Sydow as the leader of the desert rebels.
> desert rebels
>>64347363
>breibart
A hateful site.
>>64347363
I'm seeing TFA for the third time tonight.
>>64356892
Also, Po was just like Kyle Machlachlan.
is there a torrent out that is not a cam? pls say yes and pls link.
>>64347954
You're right, for a film it's mediocre, but this isn't just any film, it's Star Wars. That's the issue.
It had a 200 million dollar+ budget to work with. It had hype. It had the original cast members. It had all the negatives about the prequels to improve on.
And yet, we end up with some mediocre film. It's completely forgettable and literally adds nothing to the series. If anything its actually detracts from it. Who would have thought Star Wars would become so bland and boring. Even the prequels had originality.
>2015
>believing anything written by Breitbart
>>64356892
When George did shit in the original series he took a lot of stuff from the serials he grew up with and the stuff he saw as a kid, like how the x wing was a Mustang and the Falcon was a bomber.....Even the Pod racing was him recalling how he raced soap boxes and then hot rods when he was a teenager. he even got Shmi's apprehension right when she feared for her boy Anakin because he wrecked every single pod he was in and effectively never finished a race.
George Lucas grew up on wide scope movies that would explode on the screen so that even in the prequels, although poorly made, it had these wide shots. huge shots and establishing shots. So that even in the prequels George tried to reference stuff that was near and dear to him.
the movie feels like J.J. referenced everything from A New Hope and the sequels without understanding what those scenes were about. Instead of asking George of his mind set when he penned or directed a scene, J.J. just replicated cell for cell each scene and still missed out on why George did as he did. He remembers in A New Hope that a lot of world shots were cramped and not as huge and that's because of budget restraints and inadequate technology in conveying alien worlds. George could have used painted back grounds but he doesn't strike me as the I'm gonna use painted back grounds type.
>worst thing ever
More fucking nerd speak. It's either the fucking best thing of all time or the worst thing of all time.
>>64357261
George Lucas made "American Graffiti" for those reasons, Fox got him to make Star Wars.
That is why he HIRED Alan Dean Foster to write the backstory for the original Star Wars.
Foster was also used to write the backstory for TFA.
The studios screwed Dune and made Star Wars under the noses of them.
They even used England as SCABS to make Star Wars.
>>64357368
it's worst in the sense that IT WAS HAILED AS THE THING THAT WOULD TAKE THE FUCKING STINK OF THE PREQUELS OUT OF HER MOUTHS AND INSTEAD IT'S A FEMINIST VEHICLE AND INTRODUCES REALLY SHITTY CHARACTERS AND IT MANAGES TO SHIT ON THE BEST THINGS ABOUT THE OT. FUCK J.J. AND THE HOUSE OF RATS!
it literally added nothing of substance to the lore and tore everything to shreds. have you any idea how fucking retarded the plot of TFA was? It's a failure of imagination and a lack of creativity and such sloppy writing and whoa, Mary Sue Rey was the final nail for me.
>>64356802
>The answer is barely anything
But muh totally empty notTatooine JAKKU.
>>64347504
Uh? The lead is a white girl retard
>>64357509
The original was just a hack job, the film was about pic related.
>>64357509
I can't believe fucking adults still talk like children.
>>64357261
Pod racing is formula one, which he has an autistic obsession with
everything breitbart does is contrarian for attention
>>64357409
Alan Dean Foster was a filler writer, he wrote filler, and George, being the guy who not only was a brilliant cinematographer, could catch scenes epically, literally controlled the flow of the story. Dean Foster being there is no different than you being a back of singer to michael jackson.
>>64357525
tfa was a copy that wasn't even a copy, that is if you consider a copy of a piece of art that's done by a five year old with a crayon then yes, tfa flawlessly captures the magic of anh.
>>64357579
you know the thing about the original was that George had shot so much magic, that the editor was able to cut the scenes just as the shit was coming to the surface.
>>64357608
and that's your comeback, "I can't believe adults write words disparagingly, so to show them up for being the piss poor writers that they are, i'm gonna tell their mothers and fathers that they wasted their college tuition because the grammar they're using on my Chinese board that is now owned by Senpai who created the original 2ch but sold it to our Chinese overlords---is simply appalling."
>>64357719
I bet his favorite film is Days of Thunder.
>>64357719
Yeah, because George rode soap boxes as a kid and built and rod hot rods as a teenager. Well until he almost died that is. Afterwards his parents forbade him from ever racing again so George decided on film school.
>>64353771
You're the one from reddit.
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>>64356417
It's like you didn't even watch the movie faggot.
>>64347363
Who ever wrote this might be an actual sheev poster
>>64357970
>Alan Dean Foster was a filler writer, he wrote filler, and George, being the guy who not only was a brilliant cinematographer, could catch scenes epically, literally controlled the flow of the story. Dean Foster being there is no different than you being a back of singer to michael jackson.
Lucas didn't write an Epic, they rehashed Dune. He hired Foster because he had no interest in Star Wars beyond $$$.
They stole everything from Dune, Lucas' clique are gangsters. Even the Luke-Vader father theme comes from Dune.
Dune used knife fighting, Lucas went one better and made the knifes lasers.
There is a plethora of hacks in the SW universe.
>>64347363
>Review
>Not Armond White
pick only one
>>64358177
if you love shit then it's on you, but don't you dare try to label the shit that was the tfa, salad. you're running off of a nostaligic high. the need to be a part of the thing that is the new, better than the prequels, and as epic as the ot star wars the force awakens..
i wanted that too. sadly, that didn't happen.
hey i love a mary rey sue character too, and the movie is just as shitty. it's called the 13 warrior. i still love the shit out of that movie though.
Ok I read it so I don't use 'clickbait' as an excuse for why I hate this article. It focuses on Rei and her 'GURL' power. Who cares, it's not a problem unless you force it to become one. Her ability to do things is pretty vast for a wreckage rat and that's neat to watch on the big screen. The ability to survive. I have my personal peeves on this movie but this article fails to address them.
>>64347363
>The Worst Thing Ever
The most clickbait reddit title I've ever seen.
The title is on par with the ones on SJW posts about this movie.
>>64347764
I think the best part about all that is JJ still planned to romantically link Finn and Rey, but those disney execs laughed in his face.
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>breitbart
Reminder that Breitbart was able to ingratiate itself with millennial pissbabies by joining them in their "war" to combat biased, clickbait journalism.
>>64358239
Dune is absolutely nothing like Star wars. you're passing on a meme that has no basis in reality. I've read every Dune book, not to mention the original dozens of times and there's literally nothing in star wars that's in Dune.
>>64357261
>the movie feels like J.J. referenced everything from A New Hope and the sequels without understanding what those scenes were about
Pretty much this.
>>64355237
>hey guys look at me I watched the Plinkett reviews i'm an educated film connoisseur
>>64358287
I'm just saying the questions you asked are clearly answered in the film. You clearly didn't pay attention to it but you seem to enjoy shitting on it anyway.
>>64358616
clearly answered in the movie, UH? well, i'm tired. onto the next one.
>>64357970
>George, being the guy who not only was a brilliant cinematographer
They stole most of the scene compositions from Valérian and Laureline and the Hidden Fortress.
>>64347462
>We all know the truth always lies somewhere in the middle
That's a logical fallacy you faggot
>person 1: 2+2=4
>person 2: 2+2=6
>you: well it must be 5
Just fuck off.
>imwhiteandopressedbart
JUST
>>64359262
remind me what the hell is that again. so i could get the jist of what you're on about. there's a tonne of shit constantly going through my mind and stuff.
>>64347363
Ugh, it's 2016. How can misogyny like this still be allowed to exist?
>>64347363
>Breitbart
who cares? Literally just a conservative Gawker.
>>64357527
You can't read
>>64358594
You are strawmanning
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>>64347536
You are stupid as shit
>>64359561
And I hate you
>>64347363
>kikebart
>>64352141
stop projecting
>boo hoo, niggers womens and joos are ruining my star wars
>>64360005
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
>>64354707
This.
>>64360048
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
breitbart i exclusively clickbait
>leia is obviously a reference to caitlin jenner because she's wearing a coat
any excuse. when will conservacucks ever learn
>>64355775
>Iron Man 1 was amazing
Good god.
>>64356751
>and knows how every gun works because he plays call of duty and stuff
xXx did it first
>>64359892
keep at it anon, because if you keep it up, maybe, just maybe, all footages of this god awful mess of cinema would actually become good. so keep defending this crap film, okay.
>>64347363
>It happens during the X-wing fighter attack on the Bigger Death Star (or whatever it’s called). In one of the X-wing fighters, the co-pilot — or “back seat driver” as she should be more correctly called — is clearly identifiable as female. Yet at no stage during the attack is her fighter’s progress marred by poor map-reading, irksome injunctions to turn the windscreen wipers on or off and the music down, expressed anxieties about whether the fuel and oil levels have been checked recently, or indeed even low-level nagging and bickering and suggestions that the stubborn driver stop and ask for directions.
Is this thread full of people ironically acting like it's not a satirical article or are there a few people who actually took the bait? I'm too lazy to check.
>>64360172
>amazing and revolutionary for super hero films
>for super hero films
>>64347363
>Breitbart
lol
The Force Awakens is shit but Breitbart is a complete fucking joke.
>>64360196
>crap film
Remind me of the box office numbers again?
>>64357409
>SCABS
what
>CTRL + F Reddit
>39 results
You cucks are obsessed.
>>64356802
Good post.
>>64356417
>all these questions
What the fuck are you even talking about
>>64360196
HELLO BAITBART
>>64356842
Could you use different words instead of whi*e and bla*k, please.
>>64356417
to bring balance to the force
>>64353490
>echo chamber
Hello, Reddit
>>64356417
>Why does the FO wanna find Luke?
In the first scene with Snoke he says he's afraid that if Luke comes back then a new wave of jedi will come back as well. This could either mean he's missing because he's currently training new jedi (Han said he went to find the first jedi temple) or that he'll train more when he comes back. Either way it's a big enough threat for the FO to be worried.
>Why do they need to search for Luke?
Because of everything I just said. He can win the war against the First Order.
>In fact, what do they even want at all?
I assume you mean the First Order. They obviously want to take over the galaxy, first and foremost by destroying the competition. They took out the Republic Senate during a scene your mom took you to the bathroom. Next they need to wipe out the Resistance.
>Why did the FO build another death star?
Why does every country build fucking nukes?
>>64356417
Are you underage? 5 years old? Or just plain retarded?
Most or almost all your questions are answered un the movie and the rest are intentionally left blank for the sequel.
>Mfw 225+ replies for this b8 thread
>>64360176
no, i think Bill Murray did it first in a parody of a James Bond film, or was it maybe some one else, can't remember really.
Can't any of you faggots have a sincere opinion or belief? It's all posturing and buzzword flinging.
>>64360559
>implying people don't intentionally take bait just to fool themselves into thinking they care about something and/or to pass some time being an ass to strangers
>>64360595
shut up faggot
>>64360595
Haven't you heard? Sincerity is dead.
>>64360267
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers4.htm
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers3.htm
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=ironman3.htm
Better movies than the force awakens that wasn't very good.
>>64360595
I once had an opinion and was willing to share it, but then I discovered 4chan... AND I HATE ALL OF YOU!
>>64360299
obviously nothing you should be concerning yourself with. as you were.
TFA was shit but Lolbart is composed only of the lowest scum of "journalism".
>>64347363
Yes. That about sums it up. Other than all the other bullshit that nothing changed or happened character wise over the last 30 years for Luke, Leia and Han.
>>64360426
>In the first scene with Snoke he says he's afraid that if Luke comes back then a new wave of jedi will come back as well. This could either mean he's missing because he's currently training new jedi (Han said he went to find
>the first jedi temple) or that he'll train more when he comes back. Either way it's a big enough threat for the FO to be worried.
So snoke goes after Luke because his super death star is afraid that in a few years Luke could actually train a bunch of people who could die like the Jedi Generals did during the clone wars? Because if you remember, soldiers and armies and weaponry win wars, not Jedi.
>Why does every country build fucking nukes?
That's not a nuke that's a metal gear the sized city mechana that's movable on both sea and land.
>>64355516
HOHO LOOK AT ME, THE MAN WHO'S ASS IS SEATED UPON A FENCE
>>64360536
So they went after Luke because they're afraid he'll train a hand full of jedi who were no match for Snoke and the knights of ren any how when there were more of them when the academy was attacked?
And according to you, the other plot holes will be answered in the coming sequel? thought all movies were supposed to be stand alone pieces of entertainment. didn't know you needed the other one to explain the plot holes in the first.
>>64351702
He was white in the concept art.
So what exactly is wrong with Breitbart because all I know them for posting an article about why men are afraid to have casual sex in college
>>64361051
Three points that should be made.
>It takes less than 20 people to destroy a death star in the star wars universe
>20 Jedi are way more valuable than 20 random soldiers
>Jedi Generals were "winning" the Clone Wars before they were betrayed by the clone troopers, it wasn't a head-to-head scenario
So yeah, Snoke is rightfully afraid, imo
>>64351702
>here here
dropped
>>64361160
Many questions should be answered in its own containment film, I agree, but much of what you're nitpicking about is straight-up explained in the film. But it's not like Star Wars has ever followed the rule of answering every question in one movie.
>Obi: "That boy is our last hope."
>Yoda: "No. There is another."
>>64347363
>Breitbart
>>64356978
I hope you are americuck
>>64361386
which is explained well enough because Luke contacts Leia which shows there's a connection between the two. although not said, it's strongly implied of who this other person is. Luke calls to Leia and she feels him.
we then see Luke and Vader talking to each other telepahtically. a familial bond.
>>64361276
it took a long time though to win said war. and the new republic or whatever the hell jar jar called it, didn't actually have a menacing fleet or anything. plus snoke was going to hit their power places already, so what could a rag tag bunch of Jedi do without an army? with the new republic's in disarray, at the very least, they could only manage to be a thorn in the Empire's side. Besides, Luke had an Academy with actual students and I'm sure, other Masters who were all taken out by the Knights of Ren and others.
>>64361425
>reads salon and huffpo instead
>>64361091
It's funny how they falter Finn for being a token black character who happens to be black for the sake of being black yet if it were a white male in his place they would come up with some bullshit about how it's a role designed to emasculate white males and show them in a role subservient to women.
Breitbart - hand wringing Republican pants-shitting pandering
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Never fucking reply to me again or I'll kill you
>>64360277
As a way to save money they filmed in England to avoid workers' union hassles. The guy that posted that is some /pol/tard idiot who probably thinks unions are a communist plot yet he'll use scabs as insult because it fits his narrative.
>grasping at straws the post
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