DUDE THE MEANING OF LIFE AND ART AND TIME LMAO
>THE MEANING OF
Yikes,
>>64327573
nihilist shits out
>>64327615
>implying Tarkovsky deals in didactic "meanings" and absolutes
DUDE CAN MAN EVER TRULY FIND HAPPINESS IN THE WORLD OR DOES HE CHOOSE SUFFERING LMAO
>>64327663
Wow, you're really bad at reading films.
>>64327650
this
soviets do not deal in absolutes
>>64327539
Who is he pointing at?
>>64327705
>labelling Tarkovsky a 'Soviet' as if he was in line with Soviet ideologies
>>64327742
>confusing idealogies with epochs
The very definition of a hack.
>>64328115
Nice opinion you have there.
>>64328649
Nice rebuttal you got there.
>>64327994
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
>>64328115
He made some masterpieces like Solaris, Andrei Rublev and The Mirror. I don't see how he is a hack in any way.
>>64328712
>Solaris, Andrei Rublev and The Mirror.
>masterpieces
Stick to capeshit, kiddo.
>>64328774
>implying those films still aren't leagues better than hollywood garbage
>>64328948
>this shit is better than that shit
>>64328774
Why are you comparing them to capeshit?
Also who is your favorite director? Not gonna bash your taste, just wondering what you like when you call Tarkovsky a hack and those films shit
>>64328774
Contrarian in its purest form.
>>64328986
>Why are you comparing them to capeshit?
Because they are puerile trash for the infantilized mind. The time-image is the most empty handed cinematic philosophical concept ever executed on screen by the likes of Tarkovsky and other "slow cinema" hacks. It's the equivalent of writing a thousand page treatise only to demonstrate your intellectual capacity when in fact you don't have enough artistic and creative talent to fill a thimble.
>having a favorite director
Do you also have a top 10 like every teenager on IMDb? Do you like to group art quantitatively so that you can project an aura of pretense quickly in order to impress others?
>>64329154
Alright fine, what are some films you like?
>>64329225
What does it matter what films I like? We're talking about the fraud Tarkovsky.
>>64329154
Did Tarkovsky molest you in your sleep or something?
The 'Time-image' thing makes sense on a totally bare level, considering films are made up
of both images for a finite amount of time.
>>64329268
I'm just wondering what films you like when you bash Tarkovsky. That's all.
>>64329282
>iPhone poster hasn't read Deleuze or Tarkovsky's books on his film philosophy
I expected as much, but it's nice to see it actually happen.
>>64329298
Is this how you argue in real life too?
>>64329315
I've read his book, what are you quarrels with it?
>>64329315
If you wanna keep avoiding the question and spewing your pseudo-intellectual words go ahead.
>>64329338
His whole philosophy of the pressure of time as represented on film, as well as his abhorrence of semiotic interpretation. It's dishonest and intellectually shallow from a cultural and historical perspective of basic human artistic expression.
>>64329375
If you're going to keep on deflecting the issue at hand, go ahead.
>>64328115
>>64328774
>>64328970
>>64329154
>>64329268
Looks like we have some retards and contrarians in this thread
Can't we all just appreciate Tarkovsky and his movies? Do you have to argue this shit?
>>64329411
So?
Just because he doesn't believe symbolism should represent anything? You only think it's "shallow" in comparison to all other films, why can't you simply see it as another form or way?
You think real life is like symbols? Everything is connected and means something? That's the reason life feels so weird, because nothing is as connected as we think it is.
>>64329472
>>64329551
Are all Tarkovsky fanboys this averse to critical discussion?
>>64329472
It's just the one retarded contrarian.
>>64327726
God.
>>64329570
>being a retard
>critical discussion
>>64329557
>You only think it's "shallow" in comparison to all other films, why can't you simply see it as another form or way?
His philosophy is empty and based on an ugly aesthetic of cinema as capturing the wide chasm of time, something that the human mind instinctively tries to transcend in creative works. By forcing us to relive that awful reality, Tarkovsky is simply shitting on the audience for being stupid. This is condescension of the highest order, a rotten and horrible way to treat appreciators of art.
>inb4 hurr that's the point
That point is shallow and unnecessary. Something only an adolescent can enjoy, and that too for the first few minutes upon coming to that realization.
>You think real life is like symbols?
You think Tarkovksy's films are grounded in realism? I'm sorry, I forgot about how many translators die in a moment of existential climax by shuffling across an empty pool with a flickering candle after what feels like an eternity.
>>64329658
Great rebuttal.
>>64329790
Hm, it seems all it boils down to is preference.
There is no need for critiques.
>>64329886
It's not preference to call out a vapid and pointless cinematic philosophy.
>>64329913
You think art has to have a "point" or adhere to previous artistic ideals and forms of expression?LOL
>>64329950
>nihilist approach to art
Average Tarkovsky fan, everyone.
>>64329978
You think I can't appreciate art that *does* have a point?LOL
>>64330022
That's not what I said, moron. Has an over exposure to the cringeworthy "sculpting in time" aesthetic also sculpted a good chunk out of your brain?
this thread in a nutshell
>>64330060
His philosophy shouldn't matter as long as his films are still good.
tarkovsky is the reddit of not trying to appear reddit
>>64330060
I don't even agree with you but that was fucking brutal.
>>64330060
I just know you haven't studied or read any major critical books on art and you're probably someone who believes post-modernism killed art.LOL
>>64327539
He literally looks like my prof
>>64330107
No it wasn't, he set up his own joke, idiot.
>>64330100
This is such a basic approach to film criticism, I don't even know why I'm bothering to reply to you.
>>64330116
I almost instantly suspected you were a post-modern art school monkey, but thanks anyway for admitting to one.
>>64330146
It was still a good insult.
>>64330172
Actually, I'm not, I focus on renaissance art mainly in my studies, but thanks for revealing yourself to be a plebeian reactionary.LMAO
>>64330172
>he thinks a mathematician or scientist knows anything about art
oh i am laffin
>le philosophy is bad stem retards
>>64330243
How does it feel to have wasted your life instead of doing something useful at university? And you seem to be quite the reactionary yourself if you say that you're not a post-modernism defense chimp but start frothing at the mouth if I bring up its inherently fraudulent basis.
>>64330269
>>>/postmodernismgenerator/
>>64330323
You don't know what reactionary memes so I'm going to stop talking to you, idiot.
Try reading a book instead of browsing /sci/.
Here's a link before I go bud:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=reactionary+definition
>>64330365
>You don't know what reactionary memes
>memes
Perhaps you should get one of your psychotherapy fuckbuddies to analyze this "Freudian slip", or reactionary bilocal linguistic ontology or whatever fashionable nonsense it's called these days.
>>64330419
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip#Alternative_explanations
What a fucking shit thread jesus christ fellas lighten up.
>>64330185
Not really
Andrei Rublev is the goat masterpiece fuck yall
LOLI still love Tarkovsky
DUDE LIFE ISN'T A HOPELESS EXISTENTIAL NIGHTMARE LMAO
>>64328712
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
>>64333818
If he thought his pappy was a pleb poet, he wouldn't have quoted his scribbles in his films quite so often as he did.
>>64327742
>implying he wasn't
>>64335496
>implying he wasn't critical of the Soviet Union's promotion of atheism
>>64335479
>this thread
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_JmA2ClUvUY
This fucking thread