![Lilya_forever_Lilja_4_ever-839159533-large[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CHahKfO.jpg "Lilya_forever_Lilja_4_ever-839159533-large[1].jpg")
Okay, this was good
>AAAAGH!!!
what did she mean by this?
>>64310034
Dont undertand why people criticize the cinematography in this film
>>64310034
>Rammstein Intro
CRINGE
>>64310510
Why the director used that crappy soundtrack?
>>64310034
is that the qt blonde chick who used to play in Dawson's Creek??
>>64310034
Not sure if good is even the right word. Emotionally distressing, yes.
>>64310462
Really? It seemed perfect for the subject matter, everything looked incredibly grey and bleak.
>>64310510
It fitted that scene, but I'm glad there wasn't more of it. Not a fan of the whole "first scene is the end of the film" thing either, but I guess it sells how hopeless her situation is.
>>64310646
the soundtrack is fantastic, that rammstein thing is the one fucking huge mistake in the film, makes it look like a shitty first year film school project.
>>64310646
In the early 00s Rammestein was hugely popular in Slav-infested areas.
>>64310918
yeah but it doesn't match the scene
it's like throwing Nsync Bye Bye Bye in there just because one made a movie in the early 2000s
Not really
It's exactly the type of film I would have done if I was Swedish, leftist, untalented, and a filmmaker
This or a story about the "social struggle" of a small group of nigger thugs from Somalia, something that would look deep and intellectual
Oh yeah and the Rammstein bit was hilarious though
>>64310986
My guess is Lukas shot the scene without a soundtrack in mind, and that limits your options, so he just settled for something that matched the visual rhytm he wanted for the scene.
the first rule of soundtrack is never use music which dates the movie i.e. anything popular
It was decent but still manipulative and cheap. 6/10
>>64311188
>manipulative
In what way? That was not my impression at all
>>64311304
I'll try and guess his reasoning
>Anything that suggests women or non-whites ever suffer in any way is SJW propaganda
>>64310757
>>64310918
>>64310986
I think the soundtrack is naive on purpose. As a representation of Lilyas teenage feelings or motives.
>>64311304
it's a buzzword critics have used for ages to push the retarded notion that appealing to emotions is wrong and cheap, that filmmakers shouldn't ever work under the belief that the audience wants to feel empathy for his characters.
I'm not sure if I got the movie's message.
Stupid and bitchy Russian girl living in Estonia makes poor life choices and gets raped, the end.
She wasn't kidnapped, she wasn't coerced, she just up and left, following a boy. This alone makes her story a lot less sad compared to thousands of girls across Eastern Europe who are literally kidnapped or join the business under various threats.
>>64311444
>Stupid and bitchy
Like every fucking 16 year old. And with more reason when lilya was an unwanted child
>>64311304
Not him, but the whole film, from beginning to end, wants first to shock you, second to slip in political hints, and only third to tell a story
>>64311353
Don't take it the wrong way, but when people like you write stuff like this normal people cringe, a lot
You can call the /pol/tard a retard, but if anything he's silly, not cringe-inducing
>>64311517
The way she treated her teacher and the old lady neighbour is in no way typical of a 16 year old girl from a proper family.
Sure, she was neglected and lived in a shitty neighbourhood, but that's the same as saying blacks are dumb because they grow up in ghettos.
I myself come from a similar background, and I've known plenty of girls like that. They would all hang out with us guys, drink beer and complain about their neglectful parents. They grew up to be hairdressers and beauty shop attendants, not prostitutes. Actually watched this movie with some of them, and they actually laughed at how dumb the protag was.
>>64311597
>and only third to tell a story
>Watching films for the story
>>64311444
hi /v/
>>64311923
I don't get it.
>>64311444
Yeah she did make stupid decisions, but the point of that was to show that she was so desperate to get out of her shitty life that she got taken advantage of.
>>64311767
The girl was really cute, why did you delete the image?
>>64311999
Doesn't distract from the fact she was stupid and it was all her fault, hence I fail to feel sad about her story.
>>64312031
Yeah she was stupid and very naive. I don't see how can say it was ALL her fault though, the human traffickers hold some blame.
>>64311947
you're retarded and you're baiting for replies, like everyone coming from /v/ does.
>she's a stupid bitch for disrespecting the teacher that insulted her in public
you're not even trying
>>64312031
What? I just said the girl you posted was cute
>>64312031
Noone besides that little boy cared about her, that's why she was so easily tricked by Andrei because he showed interest about her life and situation.
>tfw that part where she kills herself and plays bball with her dead brother as angels
>>64312157
Sorry, I misquoted a post. My reply was meant for >>64311958,
I did not delete the picture, tho.
>>64312217
>>tfw that part where she kills herself and plays bball with her dead brother as angels
>Taking that scene literally
lol
>>64312217
>her dead brother
He wasn't her brother, just some street urchin.
>>64312254
That kid was a more tragic figure than her.
>His only friend is on older girl who will never reciprocate his crush on her
>She leaves him behind and he starves to death because he's got no family
>>64312337
Now THAT guy I really felt sad for. Hi fate was not his fault.
>>64312337
Its kinda ironic that she did to that kid the same that her mother did to her.
Have you guys watched Christiane F ? They share few common themes, in my opinion its even better than lilya.
>>64312505
I'll give it a look
![Poster_Victoria[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Q1rDjSP.jpg "Poster_Victoria[1].jpg")
Is this movie similar?
>>64312505
Superior film coming through
watched Lilja the other day and it was the poor mans version of pic related
i mean christine f even has david fucking bowie and other cute twinks!
>>64312567
Didn't know about that film, looks interesting.
>>64312505
decent """flick""" but her real life is even better as is the "film" she starred in 'Decoder'
>>64312665
It's alright. Bit gimmicky.
>>64312031
lack of empathy is a sign of autism
>>64312911
Its really filmed in one sequence shot?
>>64313592
yea all of it, i think they said they did it 4 times over
>>64313339
>implying i can feel empathy for a stupid girl who got what she deserved
>>64312127
>the human traffickers hold some blame.
Wow ya think so?
>>64310099
what scene is this from?
>>64314239
The scene where she gets fucked
>>64314217
Kek
>>64310034
she should've done some beer degustation tbqh
>>64314130
congratulations, you read his post correctly, autist.
>>64314217
Yeah, that was my point. That guy was saying it was all Lilya's fault.
>>64310034
She was too qt to be believable
>>64314130
As if you wouldn't follow your waifu is she promised to save you from a bleak slavic shithole.
>>64310034
Terrible flick for wannabe hipsters
>>64310648
Yes.
>>64312567
No, try Fish Tank for a more similar movie
>>64317646
But thats fucking terrible
>>64316156
take the terrible bit out and you're spot on
>>64310757
Exact same feeling I had the first time watching it, cringe fest edgy graduation film, then I kept watching and it was fucking great
>>64314217
Pretty far fetched desu senpai
