So if anyone can use a lightsaber, why doesn't the First Order just mass produce them for Stormtroopers instead of ridiculous spinning laser batons with a much higher learning curve than a sword?
The materials needed are rare af
>Blaster> lightsaber
>>64289858
Don't try and turn this into some big plot hole. There has never been anything stopping a random guy swinging around a lightsabre in Star Wars.
As for why the stormtrooper didnt use one. Well for starters that was suppose to be a riot control weapon. Usually people dont use lethal weapons that lop of limbs for that.
Also you would just get shot if you tried to use it in most situations.
And lastly that stormtrooper won the fight so clearly those things are pretty useful anyway.
>>64289907
So then why didn't TR-8R shoot Fin?
>stun baton can block a lightsaber
Its in my top 3 worst decisions made in Star Wars
The other 2
*Showing Greedo shooting first with horrible CGI in ANH Special Edition
*Putting Jar-Jar Binks in The Phantom Menace
>>64289858
>>64289858
aren't they extremely rare? can someone ELI5 why people on this board are so quick to be contrarians when it comes to this movie?
>>64289858
Because they are of no use? A lightsaber without the force is useless, you'll just get shot.
Also creating a lightsaber requires the Force. This isn't just EU nonsense, TCW confirms it, and that's still considered canon.
>>64290265
>*Putting Jar-Jar Binks in The Phantom Menace
The whole prequel trilogy was a mistake
>>64290295
Super rare. Jedi's used to have go through hell to find crystals.
Just don't think too hard about where Luke got that green lightsaber in ROTJ from though
>>64289858
>why doesn't the First Order just mass produce them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVk9lPotcW4#t=42m24s
Shit ain't easy to make, except for Rey Superstar Force girl.
Shut up it's still canon to me.
>>64290265
>what is a force pike
Did you think the Sheev Guards just had those pikes for show? Nah
There are materials and weapons in the canon that are meant to deflect/short a lightsaber blade
>>64290300
>A lightsaber without the force is useless, you'll just get shot.
This. You wouldn't be able to block a bunch of blaster shots without the force.
>>64290295
>ELI5
>>64289899
Surely if they can invest hundreds of billions of whatever fucking currency into building /three/ Death Stars, some of that could go into "rare af" material acquisition.
The Stun Baton proved itself equal to the lightsaber in trained hands, is probably a lot cheaper to make, and can be used as a non-lethal option
It's ironically the superior weapon
>why don't they bring knives to a gunfight?
>>64290106
Cuz he was a fucking badass that wanted to show the traitor he was clearly superior.
>>64290300
But everyone has a certain level with the Force™.
If a useless grunt janitor can almost beat the strongest Force™ User ever in Kylo Ren then it cannot be too difficult to master.
>>64290751
Until he died
>>64290821
He didn't get killed with no fucking light saber, that's for sure.
>>64290799
>finn almost beat kylo
this forced meme is so lame
>>64290882
Dieing in any way is less badass then going full Indiana Jones on someone with a sword.
>>64290919
>forced meme
He was literally an inch or 2 away from winning.
And then Kylo proceeded to get REKT by someone who had never used a lightsaber before, proving that anyone can use one. As long as they have the midichlorians.
>>64290993
he was playing with finn. when he got sloppy and finn knicked him ren IMMEDIATELY disarmed him and neutralized him
>>64289858
A sword can deflect a 9mm bullet. I'll lead 50 men armed with semiautomatic 9mm pistols against you leading 50 men armed with swords. We'll start 100 meters apart.
>>64291146
*unsheathes katana*
You're going down!
>>64291137
So you admit he almost lost to Finn.
Literally only a couple inches away from certain death.
>>64291354
>shoulder knick
>certain death
no
>>64290265
>these star wars casuals who don't know lightsaber resistant materials have been around since forever
every damn thread you turists complain about stuff in a universe you know nothing about
>>64291378
>couple inches away from his neck
>not certain death
>>64289858
Only people with the force can block blaster bullets consistently. Done
>>64290265
You're forgetting Jar Jar is the key to all of this.
>>64291442
>stronger person toying with weaker
>weaker gets in one hit on the shoulder
>stronger immediately ends the fight
Does this sound familiar to you? Ring any bells?
>>64291378
are you dumb? one or two inches more and he would've lost his whole arm with the possibility of a mortal torso wound, its a fucking lightsaber
>>64291354
Getting a bruise isn't almost losing m9.
>>64290516
How is "whack them with a baton" that much more difficult than "slice them with this incredibly fucking dangerous sword that can easily fuck you up when you use it"?
The benefit is tiny, and the cost is potentially really fucking big. If Kylo Ren, the nr. 2 force user on the First Order side, had trouble making a stable light saber (as people keep claiming, dunno if it's fan-theory or canon), it's probably hard to mass produce them.
>>64290485
Didn't Grievous also have guards with something like that. They even used them in the movie if I'm not entirely mistaken?
>>64290505
So you can't have rapid reflexes without the force?
or the force causes rapid reflexes?
Or the force is rapid reflexes?
>>64291534
this isn't a fistfight fuckwit
>>64290265
>Showing Greedo shooting first with horrible CGI in ANH Special Edition
>implying it was a bad thing to show how low a character Han Solo is that he would shoot to kill against someone who was firing off to the side as a means of intimidation
>>64289858
maybe because when you drop a lightsaber that is active on a star destroyer it metls it's way through all the decks till it burns through the outer hull.
drop a vibro weapon and it just clanks off the deck.
>>64291627
kek
>>64291534
he got his damn shoulder slashed with a lightsaber m8
maybe not losing but he wasn't doing a very good job
>>64291534
>>64291497
>get nicked in the Carotid artery
>walks it off
No, he'd be dead.
Finn using a lightsaber cheapened the series.
>>64291606
It gives them increased reaction time and a sense of precognition.
So yeah, if you're Remo fucking Willaims, you can use a light saber to deflect gunfire. If you're anyone else who wasn't trained as a ninja, its going to look like some asshole flailing around with a baton.
>>64291761
Why did you completely ignore my post and reply with something about carotid arteries?
>>64291679
Why not make Star Destroyeers of Vibro mettle?
>>64290295
>aren't they extremely rare?
The new star destroyer that hux and kylo ride arround in all the weapons have kyber crystals.
http://geektyrant.com/news/the-finalizer-star-destroyer-in-the-force-awakens-uses-the-same-power-as-lightsabers?utm_source=sumome&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=sumome_share
>>64289858
A lightsaber isn't useful unless you have the Force to help you block the shots.
>>64291805
Your point is irrelevant and not what the argument was about. I am reinforcing what the argument is about with a real life scenario since you seem a little too retarded to take it on board.
>>64291595
>How is "whack them with a baton" that much more difficult than "slice them with this incredibly fucking dangerous sword that can easily fuck you up when you use it"?
I'm sure that after basic training with a wooden stick anyone can be taught not to smack themselves with the blade of a sword, regardless of whether the blade of the sword is metal or energy.
It's no more dangerous than pointing the barrel of a gun at your face by mistake.
>>64290505
or you'll accidentally cut your dick off
>>64290321
go fuck yourself faggot
>>64291627
well played
>>64291810
cause that would take a lot of fucking metal
but since we pull death planets that can multikill planets from light years away out of our ass now sure why not
>>64290321
Nah man, it just needed some editing and less cgi. It was a good trilogy compared to this new one. Just wait, we'll all be much more disappointed in a few years.
>>64290295
Fuck off with your reddit lingo.
>>64292429
>Being this upset about an opinion
>>64290295
>ELI5
Get the fuck out, reddit cuck.
>>64292800
>>64292642
Early Learning 2015????
>>64290295
What the fuck is ELI5
>>64290361
Thought it was clearly Yoda's crystal.
>>64292870
>>64292952
I'm guessing "explain like I'm 5"
>>64291409
But its supposed to be rare too...
>>64289858
>why
coz:
>>64291494
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>>64291938
But how will I get my twirling sword fights without a couple people fucking up occasionally? I'd say do it.
>>64291595
Get the Japanese to mass produce, light folded over 1000 times superior weapon can cut through anything.
>>64290096
>There has never been anything stopping a random guy swinging around a lightsabre in Star Wars.
Yes there has
>>64291912
Jesus fuck retard, you're saying Luke was two inches from killing Vader in Empire. That's my point, it's obviously related faggot.
