>trying to deny the truth of this
>>64270070
pooku xD
hahaha count dookie
>>64270096
i meant to say 'that's not General Grievous though'
He's how I imagined Vader without the mask
>>64270070
Wasted Christopher Lee just as he wasted Samuel L. Jackson. For shame.
>>64270123
>>64270139
most egregiously wasted characters in the prequels
1. Grievous
2. Dooku
3. Windu
>implying he's a villain*tips fedora*
Reminder this exists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaXHDpCe-KI
I still dont understand any of his motivations for anything or why he was even there
>>64270070
he died like a bitch
>>64270281
There's a deleted scene where you find out he disagreed with the senate a lot and thought the republic was corrupt.
Still doesn't explain why he's a sith or wanted a war.
>>64270274
what's his name?
>>64270274
That wasn't so bad.
>>64270185
>no Darth Maul
How'd he become a Sith if he's all calm and not angry?
1. Vader
2. Sheev
3. Kylo Ren
4. Boba Fett,
5. Tarkin
6. Jabba
7. Dooku
>>64270274
wow that was actually almost pretty good
too bad it's never expanded upon Doku as a character is completely wasted
>>64270274
That was a good scene actually, Dooku has a very convincing point if he's correct (and as the audience we know he is). If Obi Wan believes him: he has a new ally within the jedi order. If Obi Wan doesn't believe him: who cares he's getting executed.
Dooku didn't count on the jedi and the clone army arriving to save him.
You're no match for him, he's a Shit LORD.
>>64270505
Obi-wan's an absolutely mong in this scene. Why didn't he take up Dooku's offer and infiltrate? Instead, he picks almost certain death and manages to fluke it with the Clone arrival/
>>64270530
Well Obi Wan is shown as a pretty by-the-book guy in the prequels, pretty in-character for him to be too inflexible for his own good.
>>64270458
He wasn't a Sith he was trying to play Sheev. Just got cocky and underestimated Anakin.
>>64270422
You can bet he has a 10 pages wookiepedia entry
>>64270505
My main gripe is he flat tells obi wan the whole truth but this is never brought up again at any point as far as I know
>there's a dark lord ruling the republic
>hundreds of senators are under his control
>the trade federation worked for him but was betrayed
Surely this warrants some sort of investigation of the affairs of the senate?
>>64270274
I dont understand any of this shit. What is he doing if he is against Sheev? What is he trying to accomplish? He seems like a good guy here.
>>64270774
Ultimately he is, he wants to end the corruption and inaction of the senate and he's just using Sheev whom he plans to betray at some point
Except Sheev being the mastermind he is betrayed him first
>>64270274
>best scene in the PT
>cut
BASED GEORGE
>>64270809
but he is clearly a villain in every other scene. How does it explain his lightning powers and red light saber? Why is he working with general coughsalot? in the Clone Wars cartoon he also seems to clearly be evil and working for whatever the fuck the droids are trying to do as well.
>>64270330
to not get rekked by the sith lord
>>64270274
"I wish he...was still alive I could use his help right now"
That was pretty good actually
When Mace and the other jedi are cornered he also says "I'm sorry old friend" and you can tell he still cares about his former jedi brethren
>>64270659
>You can bet he has a 10 pages wookiepedia entry
>Chrrp-Tk-Tk The Younger was a Geonosian guard who served Poggle The Lesser. He was a spice smuggler who tutored a young Han Solo in the ways of smuggling and held the record for the Kessle Run at 15 parsecs (the record was later broken by Solo). His young ward, Solo, ran away at the age of 10, which angered Chrrp-Tk-Tk so much he abandonded Solo on Kashyyyk where he was later adopted into the family of Chewbacca.
>Chrrp-Tk-Tk was so sad about this event that he enlisted in the local police force where he became known as a maverick who bent the rules and shot first before asking questions. After a particularly brutal shootout with gangster Al Capotyakj he was noticed by the government and promoted to royal guard. Count Dooku sensed Chrrp-Tk-Tk's bloodthirstyness as he walked by and used the force to tense Chrrp's body so he wouldn't violently lash out (as seen in Episode II: Attack of the Clones where Chrrp visibly straightens up in his only scene). Chrrp later committed suicide after his home and family were destroyed by the clone army.
>>64270861
The simplest answer is because Lucas is an autistic retard that can't keep consistency for shit
To be fair neither lightning nor red lightsabers were shown to be inherently evil, we just see them used by all of the bad guys and none of the good guys
>>64270070
Tarkin was the best villain. He should've survived the first movie and been part of a villain triumvirate with Vader and Sheev.
>>64270070
what was he fighting for again?
>>64270982
The worst part is that I believed everything until thee Maverick part
>>64271032
The Banking Clan
> dookuuu
> his name is literally shit in kiddiespak
Kk cool guy
>>64270274
TRAITOR
>>64271032
Dooku is fighting the Illuminati and everyone keeps calling him a nut case.
>>64270861
did you miss the part about Dooku being Sheev's Sith apprentice, Darth Tyranus? he's manuevering to betray his Master and gain control of the galaxy himself, as Sith do in Lucas's morally black-and-white universe, which does end corruption and Senate inactionfrom a certain point of view
>>64270274
If this scene was directed by Abrams the camera would be moving around the room non stop and Obi Wan would come up with some super quirky quip
>>64271138
>fighting the illuminati
>works with the banking clan and the trade federation
Dooku or Grievous?
Who is wasted more as a character?
>>64271204
Grievous obviously
Dooku is but Grievous is on a whole other level of wastage
>>64270274
>I will never join you Dooku
WHY
>>64270070
Dooku wasn't a villain
>was the master of Qui-Gon Jinn, who was pretty wise with the Force, so you know at one point that Dooku taught him well
>after the Battle of Naboo, he saw the dangers of the Republic being corrupted
>ordered a Clone Army built in secret
>was working with the Mandolorians
>Wants to over throw the Republic
>even asks Obi-Wan if he wants to join, because Qui-Gon would; begs Obi-Wan to see how corrupt it is
>flat out tells him that the Republic is being manipulated by a Sith Lord
>>64270774
The Chancellor put him in charge of the Separatist Movement (unseen), in an effort to correct democracy from within, then the Sith reached out to him to do the same thing covertly.
The Count is a tyrant, lording himself over an alien race so that he can wage a small-scale rebellion against either the Senate or the Sith.
Unfortunately, the Jedi foolishly disrupt his plans.
>>64271260
>Sith Lord
>not a villain
pick one
>>64270659
It was brought up. Obi-Wan tells Yoda, who basically says, "He's a Sith now, so he's probably lying to you."
>>64271151
>>64271297
>>64271307
when does it say Dooku is a Sith, or did I just miss that part?
>>64271260
But did Dooku know that Palpatine was the Sith Lord?
>>64271307
That's even worse
>>64271343
He's Sheev's apprentice, Darth Tyrannus
Though he might just have been playing along
>>64271260
This so much. Dooku was just trying to fix things and prepare for things. Him dying to Anakin was quite bad to be fair, could of watched so much more of him.
>>64271297
>red lightsabre
>automatically makes him a Sith Lord
Pick one
>>64271343
He's not a Sith. The Sith Order operate on a rule of two. Sheev/Maul, then it became Sheev/Anakin
Dooku was known as what's called a rouge jedi or rouge Sith. They can use the Force, but do not belong to the Jedi Order or Sith Order
Dooku was allies with the Sith order, but not officially a Sith Lord
Rank the main Star Wars villains
Sheev > Vader >>> Kylo Ren > Grevious > Dooku > Maul
>>64271398
>Dooku was a human male Sith Lord
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dooku
>>64271438
From what's shown in the movies or from what is know about them in other works?
>>64271398
>Dooku was a human male Sith Lord and the political leader of the Confederacy of Independent Systems. Dooku was once a Jedi Master of the Jedi Order, but he left the Jedi and the Galactic Republic after growing disillusioned with the corruption in the government.[10] He turned to the dark side and became the apprentice of Darth Sidious, taking on the name Darth Tyranus and reclaiming his title as the Count of Serenno.
>>64271464
Just the movies
I haven't read any of that EU shit or seen the cartoons.
>>64271448
>trusting the wiki written by noobs
During the prequels, Lord Tyrannus had no master and no apprentice. It's literally impossible for him to be a Sith Lord when Sheev was still around. No two Sith Lords can exist at the same time. We are talking about the prequels here
>>64270659
Hubris just like many of the Jedi
>if the Jedi don't know about it It's not real (his quote here, ironically unnoticed when jocasta nu says the same thing with the Jedi archives being infallible despite not recognizing kamino)
>"bring balance to the force" = "you were supposed to destroy the sith not join them"
>only the sith deal in absolutes
Obi wan is just your typical Jedi drone. He lacked the skepticism and willingness to stray a bit that qui gon had
>>64271465
to be honest from this >>64270274 it seems he was simply taking one for the team and trying to do what was necessary to expose Sheev, even at the expense of his old friends. He obviously underestimated Sheev massively.
>>64271538
>Lord Tyrannus
You mean Darth Tyrannus. The Sith Lord.
>>64271538
Sheev literally says "welcome home, Lord Tyranus" in AOTC
>>64270982
9/10
>>64271484
Then I'd swap Kylo and Maul and grievous and Dooku because
1. So far, as a villain, Kylo is simply awful (being beaten by marey sue and such)
2. While Maul didn't have much screen time, this means less time to ruin him like how Grievous went from that badass cyborg to an incompetent coward in the span of a few minutes, thus Maul is that badass sith lord that looks cool and actually managed to kill a jedi master
>>64271538
both the Dark Lord of the Sith and his apprentice are referred to as Sith Lords
>>64271568
>>64271585
It's Lucas semantics. The Sith have an order just like the Jedi. However, the Sith made it a rule that only 1 Sith Lord can operate at once, with only 1 apprentice. Anymore, and the Sith would kill themselves, because Sith are by nature greedy and hate even each other
Was Dooku a Sith? Yes. He was a rouge Sith who operates outside of the Sith order
Was he officially considered a Sith Lord by the Sith? No. Sheev was being respectful towards him, because they were working together
Dooku had no master. His master Sifo-Dias had died. He was an official Sith Lord during the 10 years between Naboo and Epsiode II. However, by the Clone Wars, he's just a lone Sith
>>64271666
He works for Sheev during the clone wars. It's canon.
>>64271666
At what point do you think the rule of two is violated?
Isn't it Sheev/Maul, Sheev/Tyranus and then Sheev/Anakin?
>>64271666
Dooku is Sheev's apprentice. iirc he even calls him Master in that short scene at the end of AOTC
Anyone realize dooku is just a modified saruman?
>>64271772
All throughout
In TCW Dooku has Ventress as his apprentice, later replaced by Oppress, while being the apprentice of Sheev (who orders him to kill ventress)
>>64271813
all fantasy stories are the same
>muh Joseph Campbell
>muh Hero's Journey
>>64270070
>trying to deny the greatness of Sheev
>>64271827
Oh and Grievous is kind of Dooku's apprentice too except he's not taught about the force
>>64270457
At least Maul had that battle.
>>64271827
Ventress is never a sith lord. She's simply a dark jedi that is learning under Dooku. There's also grevious who Dooku trained. Same way that sith inquisitors are trained in the rebels. They aren't sith lords like Sheev and Vader.
>>64271827
they aren't technically Sith Lords though (who are only ever the reigning Dark Lord of the Sith and his apprentice). just force adepts using the Dark Side
it's just shady secret unofficial protoge's as all apprentices aspire to usurp their master (and masters try to stay a step ahead of them while keeping replacement readily available)
I always thought he had the most styling lightsaber.
>>64271936
I'd say Sheev does
>>64271986
Meanwhile dooku's isn't aesthetic enough imo
>>64270274
Been watching the clone wars recently which ruins this scene by having Dooku never reference it again
>>64271834
Look at it this way
Saurman
>wise powerfull wizard that is corrupted
Dooku
>wise powerful jedi that is corrupted
>>64271936
i agree
don't really find any others that great looking 2bh. Luke's saber in RotJ is alright tho
>>64272013
And I prefer Ventress' t b h
>>64271269
Count Doody is the hero of the Star Wars movies.
>>64272013
It just looks like it fits in the hand so much better.
It's probably also because I wouldn't want to feel like I have to use two hands to use a lightsaber.
I like >>64272039 too though, pistol grip style just feel easier to wield imo.
>>64272104
AFAIK Lee (being a good swordman) was the one who asked for a curved hilt
>>64270774
All sith lords try to overthrow their masters.
>>64272039
but... why
>>64272320
It's actually 2 lightsabers, they're never in a dual-bladed configuration, I don't know why every image in google has them like that
Kanjiklub was a great villain
>>64272405
tell that to kanjiklub
>>64272405
Just googled wtf that is
I-is that how it looked in the movie
>>64272033
Can go much farther than that with the comparison
>>64272456
a lot more space between each, but essentially
>64271398
>he has a red lightsaber
>hes probably a good guy
Ur stupid
>>64272456
Nope lmao, what the fuck is that
>>64272456
Oh yeah, it looked like shit.
>>64272456
THA BEEBEE ATE UNAT
THA FURST ORDAH IZ LOKIN FER WAN JES LEIK ET
AN TOO FUJATIVES
>>64272506
It's on the autismpedia page
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Skirmish_aboard_the_Eravana
>>64270274
So Nute actually told someone?
>>64271666
>His master Sifo-Dias had died.
Sifo-Dias was literally just an alter ego of Sidious. It was meant to be literally Sid-eous or something but Lucas demanded more poetry.
