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Did he do it?
Did he not do it?
Will Brendan ever watch Wrestlemania?
Discuss this show and possible theories
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He did it. Brendan didn't do it.
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>>64254272
He did it, their whole family is a bunch of retards. Every genetic link to this family should be purged from the planet by way of some holy bombfire.
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>>64254272
Where are the gallons of blood from the fifteen different ways he murdered her?
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I don't recall sir.
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>>64254301
brendan got roped into help burn the body imo. the phone call to his mother really sold it for me, when it came about raping and killing her he does the typical shut down and say idk but he sounded pretty confident about going over to avery's
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>>64254413
*leans into mic*
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>>64254376
why would there be gallons of blood? he wasnt charged with the story of chaining her up and cutting her throat
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They constantly changed the story of how she was killed
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>>64254413
>yfw he's a sheriff now

Most of the people involved got promoted and received awards
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>>64254413
**I move away from the microphone to pretend to not remember
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He did it, Brendan helped him with the body, the cops are still corrupt as fuck. Everyone involved should be removed from the gene pool immediately.
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>>64254529
yeah the solved a huge case.
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>>64254499
except they went with that story and confession when they convicted his nephew
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>Retards actually think Steve did it

Go to bed Manitowoc shills
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>>64254338
>bombfire

IT'S BONFIRE

BON

FIRE

BONFIRE

YOU FUCKING IDIOTS
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If Steven and Brendan get released, both should leave Wisconsin and its fucked up people
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>>64254601
BBBBOMBFIRE
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>>64254529
>Most of the people involved got promoted and received awards

That's how you move up in government, by being a lying piece of shit.
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>>64254601
pretty sure that's the joke
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>>64254601
diamond dozen
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>the legal braintrust of /tv/ in charge of understanding that a defense attorney's job is to prove reasonable doubt about their client's guilt rather than solve murders
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>>64254625
Kek
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>>64254620
Brendan could get early release when he's like 58
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>>64254591
>I'm a low IQ idiot that believes a biased Netflix docuseries instead of facts

Do everyone a favor and fucking kill yourself.
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YOU DON'T SAY ANYTHING

YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING

YOU DON'T WRITE ANYTHING

>2015
>not getting your legal advice from HBO TV
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>only lady with camera has god tell her where the car is
>prosecution implies murder and rape happened
>no blood in either location where they claim it happened despite being shot numerous times
>body then transported via back of the car from his house to the burn pit 5 meters away instead of using their incinerator to completely destroy the body
>SA and BD apparently skilled enough to completely clean house and garage, yet don't clean car at all, and choose to not destroy the car in the crusher despite them running a car salvage and having access
>Only evidence that puts them her in garage is bullet that suspiciously shows up months later that has her DNA on it
>Other key evidence against SA is the key that suspiciously appears after the area had been searched multiple times, happens to appear when officers with clear conflict of interest are there
>key somehow only contains SA DNA but none of victim at all

Solid timeline we got there folks.
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I wouldn't be surprised if this show ended up getting Steven and Brendan released early. If Linklater was able to get Bernie released from a life sentenced then I wouldn't be surprised if this got them out too
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>>64254640
Too bar jurors are idiots and won't see reasonable doubt until there's another suspect in the picture. You heard it from one of the lawyers themselves, how Steve is almost impossible to defend since the Judge said no pointing fingers to anyone else.
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>>64254272
If Avery was innocent, then what do people think happened? How does someone manage to park her car and burn the body without Avery knowing?
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>>64254763
This is why it doesn't add up plus that bus driver totally BTFO of the brother and ex bf timeline and shit.
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>>64254803
different burn place, that's why there is pelvic bone parts like 300 yards away.
it is a pretty large property and there are multiple families living there so cars probably came and went
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>>64254795
>Tiede currently resides in Austin, Texas, in filmmaker Richard Linklater's garage apartment, which was a condition of his release.[20]

kek
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>>64254763
god i love netflixfags, they literally can not think for themself and just repeat what a movie said.
you're so smart anon so so smart "pats head" cops kill a girl and plants evidence.
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>>64254803
The car wasn't right behind his house, it was at the ass end of the lot, and there was evidence that the bones had been moved from a quarry even farther away.
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>>64254861
>>64254803
To add, the third burn area was located on the other side of the property in the quarry so it would be hidden.
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>>64254884
You really don't find the blood vial thing really strange? The broken seal and syringe hole? Explain that shit.
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>>64254884
So how does that timeline work then anon? Hmm?
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>>64254796
no shit you can't just accuse somone during the trail as the true killer. the judge isnt out to get anyone. you didn't see the trail, why would you assume they are idiots? maybe you didnt see the parts they did
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>>64254884
>implying I ever implied any of that

sick troll breh
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>>64254884
Lenk pls go
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>>64254924
the blood line thing is weird, just as weird as having bones of a girl who you were the last to see alive.
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>>64254956
You don't get my point. Most jurors don't see reasonable doubt unless there's another possible suspect. The judge said they can't point out any other possible suspects. Hence, the trial was doomed to be lost from the beginning. Even the lawyers knew this. The judge probably knew it too.

It's not a flaw in the legal system. It's a flaw in modern human mindset. There was more than enough reasonable doubt presented at the trial. If Steven and Brendan ever hope to be released there has to be a new suspect, which is what a lot of people are trying to find.
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>>64254949
that he saw a cute girl and hadn't been with a women in months and even years before that. got her to go into his house and he raped and killed her, brendan came and helped him burn the body because he is a literal tard and wouldnt have idea whats going on, he even told his other cousin he saw a body in the fire
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>>64255075
Or just more damning evidence like his previous incarceration
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Brendan admitted it all. He even told his mom everything while there was no cops around to "coerce" him or sway what he said. He straight up admitted to his mom on the phone , one on one, that he did it. The mom even says "Brendan you did all those things?" and he goes "Yes everything"
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>No bloodstains in the bedroom despite allegations being that she was murdered there
>DNA found in garage but none from her outside of a bullet fragment
>Key found in trailer but there is no DNA of the murder victim despite her owning it, only DNA evidence is from Avery
>Bloodstains found in the back of the SUV which would suggest she was moved with it which means, for whatever reason, Avery put her corpse in the trunk to move her a few feet to the burn pit
>Alleged murder timeline makes no sense and is reliant on the testimony of an easily manipulated retard who was repeatedly questioned and coerced by himself by the authorities
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>>64254272
it took me a while to realize this thread was about a show
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>>64255075
no just the mann framed me was an awful defense. it was an impossible case to win just like its an impossible case to win when the person is on film killing someone. they had records proving the girl was at his place and he had dna, her car and her body on his property.
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The thing that annoys me the most is that Steven Avery can't BOTH be a criminal genius mastermind that completely scrubbed any/all blood from everywhere on his compound but at the same time be retarded enough to leave her bones in a bonfire and also place her car and car key (completely scrubbed clean of dna except for avery's) on his very own compound.
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>>64255118
Again, where is the blood and fingerprints?

>>64255162
Brendan would admit he's a girly faggot who loves cock if you told him to. His whole trial should have been a mistrial until there was better evidence
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how do you even do homework by guessing?
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>>64254272

REGINALD LEDOUX
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>>64255224
the blood was in her car, and it was in his house so fingerprints are pretty common to find so they would do nothing,
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Who the fuck JUST carries around their car key? That had to be a spare key.
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>>64255224
>People should have free reign to just run around murdering anyone they want just because they're fucking retarded

That's not how life works, son.
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>the sheriff's department is currently getting away with this
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>>64255299
Where is the evidence he killed?
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>>64255297

The series firmly established that Wisconsin is full of retards.
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>>64255075
They didnt point out how there were multiple members of the jury that were related to people in the sheriff's office.
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so much reasonable doubt
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>>64255201

that was what killed me about the fucking case. not a single one of those retarded jurors understood "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt"

so what if the defense is wrong about the framing?

how the fuck does that make any sense of the rest of the fucking "evidence?"

there's still so many questions left unanswered that clearly express the doubt that steven avery killed this woman

even worse is that the kid was convicted on the basis of his own, retarded testimony knowing that several times this fucking kid would say yes to anything that was asked of him because he's got the intelligence of an 8-year-old, despite there not being a fucking iota of physical evidence in his involvement

if you think anybody is dumb for believing the framing story, fine, but you've got to be an absolute moron to believe what the county thinks happened
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>>64255332
They all got promoted too
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These Steve Avery threads and the AN SOLO, YER A DEAD MON are getting spammed on /tv/ to an annoying level.
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>there are people in this thread who think Brendan a complete retard is smart enough to commit a crime and rid of evidence he ever did it
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>26 posters
>60 replies

HMMMM, SAMEFAG MUCH, AVERY DEFENDER??
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>>64255466
>complaining about threads that aren't about star wars
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>>64255406
Who was it that said the only people that end up doing jury duty are people too stupid to get out of doing jury duty?
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>>64254272
What if while serving those 18 years in jail, he met an actual murderer who told him how to get rid of blood/dna, or how to commit the "perfect" murder. I don't know IIRC there was an episode of medical detectives of a guy poisoning the wife daily (or killing her slowly) and the show never disclosed how he hid the smell of the cyanide or rat poison or whatever he used it was something untraceable.. Who knows.. Just like he might be telling other inmates how to perfectly poison someone, maybe there was an expert on cleaning dna when Steve was doing his thing.
On the other hand free WrestlemaniaKid
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>>64255510
Well there seems to be at least one retarded samefag sticking out.
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>>64255192
>>64254763
This

>people ACTUALLY believe this convoluted timeline
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>>64255406
questions are left unanswered because they literally only showed one side of the trial.

if framing was their best shot that means they had pretty damning evidence and shocking the jury didn't believe that cops would kill a girl and frame someone.
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I feel really bad for his parents, dindu or did du, his mom and dad look really damaged.
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Too much reasonable doubt
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I give you niggers 36 million reasons why Lenk and Colburn are the two dirtiest cops on the planet.
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What really happened:

>ex bf killed her
>Left her shot dead in her car in the quarry
>Corrupt cop find the car, run the plates
>burns her body, collect bones
>Drive the car into steve's place
>plant some blood into the car
>spread the ashes into the barrel
>Hear from people that he had burned a bonfire at the same day
>Remove bones from the barrel and spread them into the same place that the bonfire was in
>plant some other eveidence with his corrupt police friend
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So we're all in agreement that the ex-boyfriend did it, right?
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>>64254338

>bombfire

underage detected

you dicksuckin little faggot fuckfairy
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>>64255726
don't forget about the 'I'M GOING TO KILL YOU BITCH' voicemail message he deleted
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Jury was rigged. 7 of the 12 went into deliberation ready to acquit. Three hardliners kept everybody there for days on end and would not back down until a guilty verdict was reached. Those fuckers probably got paid off too.
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>>64255774
Retard.
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>32 posters
>72 replies
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There was reasonable doubt Steve was not the killer, but probably not enough evidence to prove planted evidence. Jury was retarded, just like every Wisconsinite.
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>>64255726
Nah. That's what you think happened because you watched the documentary. You're a lemming.
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>>64255764
Yes.
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>>64255629
not really because this is pretty much was the jury had to reasonably believe >>64255726 could happen instead of the guy with the dna and body on his property.
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So, did he kill her out by the quarry, drive her back to the burn pit, burn up her body, and then lose the car in the rows of salvage autos?

If so, how the hell did the bullet end up in the garage?

How can they convict if the prosecution can't even say, with accuracy, where she was killed?

How the fuck do you have a body but no crime scene?

How did Steven Avery clean every speck of blood from that shit-filled garage and his equally cluttered bedroom, assuming the murder happened in one of those places?

What was his motive for killing the girl anyway? He had done business with her over a period of months, right? Like, she came out there regularly to take pictures of his various auto sales. So why did he kill her this particular time? What was in it for him?

This whole thing is perplexing. I keep going back and forth on whether he did it or not.
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I've seen threads for this "documentary" every hour on /tv/. Fuck off with this marketing bullshit.
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>>64255764
Yes.
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>>64255801
7 of the 12 were ready to acquit? says who? that one guy?
>>64255788
where did they show what voicemail was deleted?
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>>64255801
one of the jurors was the dad of someone working for the manitowoc sheriff's department
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The two guys most at fault for Avery's prior conviction and deposed in his lawsuit three weeks prior end up finding all the evidence to put him away a second time. 36 million reasons my niggers. With the Insurance Corps backing out it would buried all deposed the Sheriff's Dept and Manitowac County.
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>>64255825
>34 posters
>90 replies
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>>64255864
>It's a LE EVERYONE IS A SHILL REE /v/edditor post
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>>64255864

>Implying any reputable business would market on 4chan
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Did anyone feel kind of bad for how much Brendan got called a fucking retard? Even the defense called him a stupid dumbass. The case pretty much hinged on it. Also his mom outed him as a virgin on TV.
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>>64255860
he didnt do business with her for months just the magazine in the past.
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>>64255910
Lol! That is what we call fair and impartial! 36 million reasons.
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>>64255961
>Also his mom outed him as a virgin on TV

this made me kek pretty hard
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>>64255825
Maybe cause this is a discussion thread? How retarded are you?

>>64255864
>new show with a bunch of unanswered questions
>people discussing what happened
>OMG STAHP IT YOU SHILLS
God you are stupid
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>>64255998
thats what i call shitty lawyers
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>>64255825
What? You think there's supposed to be 72 posts total ITT? People can't discuss?

Fuck off mongoloid. Take care of this (You) until the new year.
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>>64254338
edgelord
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>>64255825
How dumb are you
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>>64254499
because when you cut the carotid artery there is literal jets of blood
there shouldn't have been blood soaking his bed and sprayed on the walls and ceilings of his room
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>>64255825
Man you're dumb
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Couple of emails fron Kratz(The prosecutor) to a ledditor
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>>64255961
lol when Stevens lawyers say Brendan "isn't the brightest boy out there" . He is pretty stupid though , but he did help his uncle kill and rape that chick. No matter how stupid you are, you don't make something like that up. He was full retard, he had some special ed classes but mostly normal learning classes. He just thought if he admitted what he did he would get off the hook and the adult would get all the blame, so he is an idiot for not understanding that but doesn't change the fact he did horrible things.
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>>64255961
>Also his mom outed him as a virgin on TV.

They also asked him about his weight in front of everyone at court and made him say why he decided to lose weight: he thought his gf dumped him because he was fat.
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No evidence

They have recordings of him on the phone to his gf in the county lockup at the time the murder is alleged to have occured

No blood in his house or garage

Car keys did not appear until after numerous searches when two police officers with a conflict of interest search his house - at which point they appear in plain view

Police did not look at anyone else

Police coerced and manipulated the intellectually disabled nephew

Police knew the victims car make and model before it was missing

His blood vial evidence from the 1985 case had been tampered with
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>>64256154
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>>64256154
>believing anything this pervert has to say
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>>64254640
The DA couldn't prove reasonable doubt

And the defense was actually prohibited from pointing at 3rd parties unless they could prove they did it!
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Dey ture dah famleh apaht. Yah got muh waf crine all deh night. We don't talk teh ech udda no more. All cuzza dem seargent colburn and lahtenent lenk. Steve he dindu muffin you no
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>>64254884
your bullshit doesn't refute the facts of what happened
nobody said the cops killed her you retard
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>>64254803
>then what do people think happened
I dont know because the police didn't do their job

The Avery salvage yard is gigantic, there are numerous back roads that could access it
the burnt remains could be dumped at night
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>>64255118
you only explained a third of that timeline
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>>64255075
>It's not a flaw in the legal system.
It is, an impossible standard was set for them to name a 3rd party
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>>64255860
>What was his motive for killing the girl anyway? He had done business with her over a period of months, right? Like, she came out there regularly to take pictures of his various auto sales. So why did he kill her this particular time? What was in it for him?

Being fucking crazy with two decades of pent-up rage and bloodlust.

The guy was already starting to tick off legs from the MacDonald triad before he was sent away on the rape conviction in the eighties.
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>>64255162
>Brendan admitted it all.
was that before or after the police coerced him and he was spoon fed the information and his defense lawyer manipulated him and he met the insane O'Kelly investigator?
>He straight up admitted to his mom on the phone , one on one, that he did it.
He was telling her what he'd told the police and agreed to
And then she'd ask him if was true
And he'd say no
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>>64256155
I disagree. His confession was odd. He'd speak in only one word, or a sentence between long pauses. He admitted he used one of the murders from "Kiss The Girls" for his confession. His confession matches up with it.
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>>64255192
>>Key found in trailer but there is no DNA of the murder victim despite her owning it, only DNA evidence is from Avery
dont forget the key didn't turn up until numerous searches
and the guys who finally found it were cops with a conflict of interest
and it was in plain view which raises the question of how did nobody see it originally
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At the very least Avery should have walked on the grounds of a conflict of interest on the part of the Manitowac county police.
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>>64254601

a bomb makes a fire but a bon doesnt so shut up
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>>64255285
Gregory Allen does look like him
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>>64256463
why? they moved the court case and another police department did the case..you heard it here first people...sue the cops then they can't arrest you for murder
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Brendan will literally never have sex because of Steven Avery's heinous crime. A pity.
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>>64255290
a few drops of his blood that look like they came from an eye dropper or a swab
>>64255369
details plox?
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>>64255118
>Teresa Halbach
>cute

Choose one
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JUST
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>>64256505
The people involved in the bungling of the 1985 case, who at the time were being sued by the accused for 36m, were allowed barely supervised to search Avery's property. Fucking ridiculous.
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>>64256547
did you see the girls in his life? she is a 10 in his world.
>>64256542
just ignore this >>64256154
i guess because netflix didnt tell me it
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>>64255625
>if framing was their best shot that means they had pretty damning evidence and shocking the jury didn't believe that cops would kill a girl and frame someone.

Alright detective, whats the other side to Colburn knowing Teresas car 2 days before its missing?
Whats the other side to the keys appearing out of thin air on the 4th or 7th search when Colburn and Lenk find them?
Whats the other side to the recordings of Avery being on the phone to his girlfriend at the time the murder allegedly occurs?
Whats the other side to the cops feeding Brendan information on the crime and badgering him to agree and intimidating him when he got it wrong?
What is the other side to all this?
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Len kachinski seemed like the devil. I bet he did it.
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>>64255764
Its a bit of a cliche to look in that direction in these instances
But yes thats where you first look
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>>64256619
barely supervised? care to quantify barely supervised? how old are you? 16?
hurr durr the defense said something so its 100% true, its not like its their job to defend their client.
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The cops didnt murder anyone. They found the car, the body and went from there.
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>that star
every time
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>>64256701
Does anyone actually think it was the cops? I don't think the cops did it, but I do think they took advantage of the situation and framed Avery.
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>>64254884
>cops kill a girl
no one said that
>plants evidence.
you got me there.
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>>64256692
no but it's the prosecutor's job to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that avery killed halbach and they clearly didn't

>>64256701
this. he was gonna fuck over the entire town with that lawsuit
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>>64256648
i didn't see the case, i saw a one sided documentary. please understand you didnt not see the trial and you watched a documentary about an "innocent" man wrongly convicted and any evidence that shows other wise they cut out.

see this>>64256154 and maybe you will see the other side of the case.
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>>64255726
They would not be actively engaging in criminal behavior
>They hear a womans gone missing
>Last seen Avery property
>They think to themselves
>That Avery motherfucker has done it again*
>That inbred white trash shit thinks he can pull the wool over our eyes a second time*
>Well we're not going to let him get away with it this time

*Its important to remember that the Sheriff still thinks Avery committed the 1985 rape
He thinks the evidence exonerating him was planted
Which of course completely ignores the fact that Allen was already a person of interest, had already attempted to rape another woman with the same MO, and confessed in 1995
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>>64256692
>how old are you? 16?
>hurr durr
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>>64255835
>but probably not enough evidence to prove planted evidence
the keys did not appear in plain sight until something like the 4th or 7th search when two cops with conflict of interest found them
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>>64256525
Implying he hasn't had a bunch of sex and won't continue for as long as he's in the jam.
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>>64254675
>fuck logic and facts
>believes what the "justice system" tells him to believe

Back to sleep anon
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>>64256382
>one instance is ticking off the macdonald triad
>implying people are guilty for unrelated things happened 20 years earlier
I bet you think he committed the 1985 rape too
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>>64256762
they clearly did hence the verdict. sorry you believe you heard all the evidence.

a guy who has had a violent past ends up with a dead girl in his firepit and her car with his dna on it and a bullet fired from his gun with the victims dna. its pretty easy to see he is guilty. i couldnt feel safe knowing with all that evidence i let someone walk because in the past they were wrongly convicted
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>>64256692
Barely supervised as in being haphazardly watched by another cop who didn't even understand the situation. No Manitowac cop should have stepped foot on that fucking property once the car was found in the first place. Lenk and colburn had every reason to plant evidence. It doesn't matter if they did
They had reason to and that points to conflict of interest and Steven walking.
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I don't really care that much about a burglar who sets cats on fire. Even if he did get framed, boo fucking hoo for him. If you don't act like human garbage your entire life, these things won't happen to you.
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:3 Cute, CUTE!!!
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>>64255961
American justice is fuckedup
cops routinely feed dumb and gullible people with the facts of the case to repeat back
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>>64256155
His lawyer isn't too bright either to allow his client to speak to police without being present
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>>64256866
It's wasn't even his gun you fucking mongoloid.
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REASONABLE DOUBT

CONFLICT OF INTEREST


Avery should have walked.
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>>64256960
who's gun was it then?
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>>64256931
His lawyer wanted him to go for the plea deal. His lawyer wasn't dim, he was a shit lawyer who thought his client was guilty.
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>>64256977
a cop said nigger

oj should of walked
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>>64256505
Manitowac county police found the key after numerous searches
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>>64254601
>its not rocket appliances
>its all water under the fridge
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Why does Avery's arrest for murder in 2005 get lenk and colburn off the hook for negligence or corruption? I understand they hadn't been formally indicted but as I understood it, they were on the path to being held accountable for the 1985/95 bunglings.
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>>64256866
>violent past
guy with an IQ of 70 steals quarters and cheese sandwiches from a bar and throws a cat over an open flame because his friends egged him on, yes very violent
>dead girl in his firepit
bones were moved
>her car with his dna
his old blood sample had been tampered with, FBI used an inconclusive test that hadn't been used in ten years to "prove" the blood wasn't from the sample
>bullet fired from his gun
wasn't his gun, where the fuck was the rest of her dna then in his entire house if that's supposedly where the murder took place?
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>>64256773
So you cant explain what the other side to the problems are?

>see Krantz lying and manipulating
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I think the most mind boggling thing would be steven avery is the worst and best criminal of all time.
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>>64254272
>yfw this guy did it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je35gOEL5wQ
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>>64257033
yes, i saw the documentary. that was a very small part of the case against him.
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>>64256872
This, those niggas weren't even supposed to be anywhere near the investigation, I don't know why this basically gets ignored by the jury, they literally weren't supposed to be there, and it just so happens that two of the most damning pieces of evidence are found by them in places that had been previously searched.
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>>64257080
see
>>64256154
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>>64256154
>>64256182
They can easily manipulate mundane things to appear suspicious just like they manipulated Brendan
And they can plant things
Or whoever dumped the car and burnt remains

And since they found Avery calling her on the day she is coming over to photograph cars for sale, a real smoking gun Sherlock, maybe they can find out who had been sending her harassing phone calls
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>>64256724
most police forces use a 6 sided star
its because of King Solomon
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>its established that Manitowac cops had the motive, means and capacity to frame avery early on.
>trial still continues even though those cops took part in gathering crucial evidence.
???
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>>64257174
yeah because i trust this piece of shit, his career is ruined he can lie on the internet as much as he wants
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>>64256872
Lenk and Colburn found the key

And what sort of search warrant gives you total access to a property for 8 days and can remove the people living there and allows you to search it seemingly a dozen times?

Because that key didn't show up in the first search
or the second search
or the third search
it was the 4th or 7th search
and it appeared in plain view
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>>64257022
OJ would have got got if the dumb ass prosecutor didnt make him try on the glove
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>>64255340
This desu

> Those terrible Wisconsin accents
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>>64257005
>his lawyer wasn't dim
>he hired Patrick O'Kelly to administer his bizarre 'test'
lel
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>>64257077
because the police can never be corrupt and they all got promotions
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>>64257174
didn't read the questions cocksmoker
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>>64254737
yes that's the real crime here, wrestlemania is not a crime drama.

if only they had a wrestlemania SVU
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>>64257232
>People convinced by that kratz email when most of it is circumstantial anyway
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>>64257190
>manipulate mundane things
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
Never
EVER
speak to police without an attorney
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>>64257190
> maybe they can find out who had been sending her harassing phone calls
Its amazing we have this ten hour long documentary and all this speculation and we still don't have any clue who did this. 2 people in jail and neither of them made those phone calls.
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>>64255961
>254796 >>64256210
>File: 1450366452385.gif (2 MB, 330x270)
>>the legal braintrust of /tv/ in charge of understanding that a defense attorney's job is to prove reasonable doubt about their client's guilt rather than solve murders

Sorry bro, not me. Retards like him legit freak me out, and the fact that he can get away with crimes because hes a retard is reason enough for me to justify my feeling toward him.
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any of the full episodes on youtube after 1?
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>>64257286
>Those terrible Wisconsin accents
its basically dutch
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Brendan is getting to take part in his own special wrestlemania every night now.
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>>64256931
That lawyer gave Brendan the best damn advice on the whole show. Take a fucking plea bargain you goddamn moron. THEY LITERALLY HAVE FOOTAGE AND RECORDINGS OF YOU ADMITTING YOU DID EVERYTHING. The fuck do you expect to happen.
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>>64257387
>calls others retards
>can't even post properly
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>>64254426
Its impossible for a bunch of retards to so effectively burn a body down to nothing.
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LEN KACHINSKI IS LITERALLY THE DEVIL
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>>64257232
and a documentary can edit out parts of a court case they don't like as much as they want
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Uhhh

Iono
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>he answered the door wearing a towl
maybe he was in the shower and didn't want her to leave and have to reschedule her to come back and photograph cars FOR SALE BECAUSE HE IS RUNNING A BUSINESS AND BE CHARGED FOR TWO DAYS
>using sisters phone
felt bad about the misunderstanding
not too many photographers doing that
any number of mundane reasons

You could be talking to the police explaining why you didn't couldn't possibly have killed someone and let slip "I never like the guy but I didn't kill him"
And when you get to trial the DA will ask the cop "Officer what did the defendant say about the victim?"
And the cop with say "He said he never liked the guy"
And the DA will say "There you go ladies and gentlemen, the defendant had a motive"
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>>64257229
what case wouldnt the cops have the means and capacity and motive to frame someone?
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>>Yeah?
>Yeah

Even if he's proven innocent, he deserves jail time for being a retarded inbred hick
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>>64256724
The 6 pointed star of Juda!

Enjoy jail, goyim!
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>>64257545
I bet your mother wishes she could edit you out of her life.
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>>64255825
Not all people have netflix brah
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>Avery didnt testify
I want to know whos decision this was and i have to think its Steven's and that can only point to him doing it. Did he not testify in his first trial?
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>>64257530
his "investigator" is weird

apparently he now promotes himself as an expert in Mobile Phone Technology and identifying people are lying
Charges defense teams tens of thousands of dollars for evidence
That ultimately isn't used

He's a con artist masquerading as a professional witness
Probably justifies to himself that he only does it to people he tells himself are guilty anyway
Just look at that email he wrote about the Avery family, wtf
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>>64257349
This, half of the points were "we found x in the burn pit",
#7 makes no sense because SA said from the start that she showed up.
From what we saw with them using the magic FBI test as evidence, and all the suspicious shit regarding that blood, all of the evidence should be put under suspicion.
The bullet which appeared months later could easily be fired by the Avery gun since they were in possession of it as Kratz said.
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>>64257464
>THEY LITERALLY HAVE FOOTAGE AND RECORDINGS OF YOU ADMITTING YOU DID EVERYTHING. The fuck do you expect to happen.
admitting WHAT THEY TELL HIM AND HE REPEATS
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>>64257654
>if you don't testify you're guilty
You're one of those people who think only the guilty refuse to speak to the police and only the guilty request a lawyer

If they put him on the stand they would have probably dug up bullshit irrelevant shit about his family history

character assassination
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>>64257611
These cops had 36 million dollars , their careers, and possibly jail time on the line. These same cops carried out the searches on Avery's trailer. That's all you need to know. Basis for a mistrial if I ever heard one
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>>64257718
The insurance doesn't cover deliberate malfesance
And they knew about Allen in 1985
And they were contacted about his confession in 1985
The county would have had the whole bill
>These same cops carried out the searches on Avery's trailer.
Not intially
When nothing was found
Only later searches
Which btw, what sort of fucking warrant allows you to just go back again and again and again
Did the join the search - and thats when the key shows up
>Other PD search
>no key or other evidence
>Mantiowoc County PD search
>key and other evidence show up
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>>6425769
This isn't a movie. Your lawyers will almost always tell you not to testify. The prosecution will just ask you horseshit questions made to make you look bad. Brendan only testified because he made the confession and refuted it, so he had to set the record straight.
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>>64257817
>And they were contacted about his confession in 1995
fix'd
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>Lenk committed perjury during the car logs ordeal
>literally 5 hour gap in his time span
>nothing suspicious about that
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>>64257690
no he told them more stuff.. your loosechange just didnt put that part in the movie
>>64257718
thats why they moved the court case and another county took over the case immediately as soon as the suv was found on his property. you know nothing about law, you watching a fucking movie trying to prove a guy was "innocent"
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If you could forcibly sterilize one person featured on this show who would it be?


Me? Me I'd sterilize kratz
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>>64257859
>thats why they moved the court case and another county took over the case immediately as soon as the suv was found on his property
then why did lenk personally find the fucking car key in avery's house MONTHS after the initial searches?
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>>64257859
>no he told them more stuff.. your loosechange just didnt put that part in the movie
They were leading by the nose and feeding him information and correcting him when he got it wrong
He would claim to have stabbed her in the head - the cops would tell him "no you didn't tell us what you did" and shit like that
And when he wouldn't cooperate they'd tell him they'd call his mother and tell her what I liar he was
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>>64257859
>thats why they moved the court case and another county took over the case immediately as soon as the suv was found on his property.
Mantiowoc County PD still participated in the search and they were the ones who found crucial evidence when previous searches turned up nothing
literally not paying attention
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>>64257859
You're samefagging hard in this thread. Manitowac county officers carried out a search and found evidence incriminating a man currently suing their city for 36 million dollars. That is a fact. Legally that should not have been allowed to take place.
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>>64257956
did he get found guilty on a key? no, there was plenty of other evidence, hence why the case was allowed to continue. also your wrong on the time line, the bullet was found a few months later the key was found on that first week of searching
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>>64257712
No i never speak to police it just struck me as odd while watching it. He probably established his own timeline in the police interrogation tapes. Theres no way a defense cross examination could help him since the prosecutor could throw anything at him and have it stick with no doubt.
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What's hi s name again?
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>>64258076
Ken "The Prize" Kratz
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>>64257932
Agreed. He was a smug little shit during the press conferences then crumbled when confronted about the skeletons in his closet.

>Who you gonna believe? Avery or these responsible, good men with families at the police force and me?

>Why are you taking pictures? This isn't funny! My reputation, family and career are on the line!


I'm surprised this guy still has his law license.
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>>64258076
Mr. Unknowingly helping a murderer and two corrupt officers go free because I want my name in all the papers when I get two convictions.
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>>64258145
Close, it's Mr. I sext domestic abuse victims and admit to abusing prescription pills because waaaah I have a sex addiction.
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I wanted to fuck all those fat blonde redneck Wisconsin sluts for some reason.
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>>64258020
when did i deny i am the same person? i am responding to people,

so if i sue my local police department and they find evidence that i killed someone i get to walk free? if it was such a clear mistrail why did every other court strike it down? oops i forgot you're smarter than judges and lawyers because you watched Netflix one night

>>64257995
literally nothing? you sure they didnt find the suv on his property with his dna on the underside of the hood? they didnt find a DEAD body on his property.
will you two idiots admit that the documentary only showed one side of the case, and knowing that they might have left out details that would make avery look bad?
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>>64257675
Seriously 9 is the biggest bullshit
>HOW COULD THE POLICE HAVE PLANTED A BULLET FROM A GUN THEY HAD
I dont know. How did Avery clean up all the high velocity splatter from a headshot wound in a dirty garage?
mysteries
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>>64257859
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>>64258301
He did it
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>>64258264
No you should be able to have your fair trial where the people who found the evidence against you aren't people who have a vested interest in convicting you.
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>>64258264
You are a fucking retard and you just keep calling people out for having watched the Netflix docu. You make zero points, you just sound like a faggot shill
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>>64258020
And they found it after previous searches had not
Found it plain sight as a matter of fact
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>>64258366
and he had one, the documentary just made it seem like he didnt. sorry your retard buddy helped burned an innocent girl and your inbred friend killed her
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>>64258035
The other evidence was similarly circumstantial or planted
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>>64258403
you wont admit that the documentary is biased..i bring up the fact that you watched a documentary because that's what you did! you didn't watch the trial so stop acting like you did. you only heard one side and you go crazy because lel fuck the police
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>>64258264
The SUV and remains were left by the real killer

The key and bullet and contents of Teresas purse were planted by the Manitowoc County PD
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>>64258276
by firing at a gun range and collecting the bullet from the target
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>>64258486
>if you disagree with me you're biased

So whats the unbiased explanation for crucial evidence not turning up until the Mantiowoc County PD searched the house after numerous previous searches found nothing?
Whats the unbiased explanation for carrying out numerous searches?
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>>64258414
They found it under a shoe. They tear up the garage with a jack hammer to attempt to find blood under the cracks, but can't lift a shoe to find a key on the first look-through?
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>>64254884
>po-leece a good boy! he dindu nuffin! dat blood tampered with its vial and planted itself!
This Is What Rebbit Actually Believes
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>>64258434
You sound like a fucking retard redneck Wisconsin local who is buttmad his police department is visibly corrupt.

Keep telling yourself that youd be fine going to trial over evidence found by people who have admitted to disliking you, people that are currently being questioned in regards to a lawsuit claiming they knowingly kept you, an innocent man, in jail for 18 years. At the very least, no Manitowac county officers should have been allowed on that property, and when they were a mistrial granted.
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>>64255118
>hadn't been with a women in months and even years before that
leddit, did you even fucking watch the doc? he had a gf
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>>64258486
You sound like fucking allan Avery you redneck retard
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>>64258606
who was in jail for being a drunk...
>>64258547
did you see the trial?
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>>64258549
Colborn's testimony is that he shook that nightstand and that they key was lodged between the nightstand and the wall and it fell off to the side, lets not forget that the key had DNA from ONLY SA and didn't have any of Teresa.
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>>64255201
>sheriff department framed an innocent man is an awful defense
>same sheriff department that is known to have framed an innocent man
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It literally does not matter if Steven Avery did it or not. It does not matter if cops planted evidence. The fact is that Manitowac police conducted a search of a man whom was currently seeking damages for criminal negligence performed by the exact same people accused in the lawsuit. That is fucking insane. The trial should have never happened and those cops should have been indicted for breach of code of conduct.
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>>64258663
Oh, my bad. I could have sworn it was under a shoe. Thanks for clearing that up.

Not sure if it matters much but it's a spare key.
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>>64258549
because it wasn't under the shoe the first time
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>>64258663
well that clearly makes sense
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>>64258758
they conducted MULTIPLE SEARCHES
No warrant gives you that right
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>>64255764
Yep
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I don't understand how someone as stupid and ugly as Brendan Dassey could get a gf but I have literally never kissed a girl.
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did they ever say they DNA tested the bones?
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>>64258301
The smuggest face on the face of the Earth.
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>>64258917
its Wisconsin
She was probably as stupid and ugly as Brendan
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>>64258984
>I cant believe they blamed this guy.png
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