Does it feel like an actual Star Wars movie to you or did it come across more like well-done fanfiction?
Felt like Star Wars
>>64252867
not enough mara jade for true fan fiction
too much jew jew abrams for star wars.
>>64252822
utterly cynical product
Actually felt like Star Wars MOST of the time. The whole interlude with Han and the space squids definitely was fanficy.
>>64252996
unlike the original adaptation of Flash Gord- i mean the totally original piece of artwork known as A New Hope.
>>64252822
I've read fan fiction with more original plots so I don't know if I could call it well-made fan fiction.
>>64252822
It felt like they took the remnants of a medium good star wars movie and turned it into a disney shit by shoving unnecessary cringe worthy scenes to make 13 year olds laugh such as the scene where fin taunts phasma.
>>64252822
bruh, everything SW-related that came out after Return of the Jedi felt like fan fiction.
Didn't really have that star wars feel to it. I've watched all the movies over a dozen times so I know star wars has different tones and feels to it but they all still felt like star wars. This one just felt like a cgi new limits showcase in that universe.
The main thing star wars has going for it is memorable characters fighting for whatever side they believe in. Whether or not you agreed with that side or liked the character is irrelevant you still remembered them.
TFA even after seeing it twice (second time to make sure I want just not liking it due to some knee jerk reaction) i still struggle to remember anyones names other than Finn, kylo, and Rey. They just had very little impression on the viewer. It felt like the main characters were just slapped in after they figured out what to do with the OT cast and references
>>64253087
There was nothing cynical about ANH, it was a love letter made with passion
JJ might have been passionate but you can see the corporate influence saying "we need all these bits for the cinematic universe"
>>64256052
>muh cinematic universe
It wasn't a universe, but Empire left fucking everything hanging for a future movie. Eat a dick.
Felt more like Star Wars than the last 3.
>>64256226
Thank you based non
>>64252822
I fucking hate you cocksucking autist faggots. Please just kill yourselves.
>MUH STA WAAZ
No matter how good something was, you waste your worthless life calling it fanfic, yet you can't produce something constructive yourself if you tried.
OP the movie was a well done Star Wars movie. They got stellar reviews, people loved it, and now it's making billions. Get the fuck over it or kill yourself
>>64253036
How the fuck was that whole sequence not Star Wars?
Star Wars: The Force Awakens feels honestly more like watching a product than a film, more toy commercial than epic space fantasy. Look forward to seeing all those CG critters in the toy aisle soon. Specific moments meant to tickle the part of your reptile brain that remembers your love for the original films. Character banter that seems specifically written to be made into Tumblr gifs and STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER moments that seem to exist only to send Buzzfeed writers scurrying to their computers to gush about how gosh darn important this whole movie is.
A film more concerned with flashy action and snazzy visuals than building a character drama using the vast backdrop of a Galaxy Far Far Away™. This movie could have been made by a machine and I honestly dont think anyone would have noticed.
At least in the prequels a lot of the money grab stuff is insane bullshit from George Lucas's mind about what would sell instead of a checklist shat out by a committee of the people who brought you Disney's© Marvel's® The Avengers™ Age of Ultron.
>>64258167
It was better than that. They tried to make something artistic, and it showed.
Most importantly, the characters are great and give them something to base further projects on that have the chance to not suck.
>>64258229
>They tried to make something artistic, and it showed.
......did we watch the same movie? It seemed like they were trying to follow their Avengers formula to me.
>>64258229
What are some other examples of "artistic" movies made in the last 5 years according to you?
>>64258167
Star Wars has always been about selling toys, if it wasn't a 2 hour toy commercial it wouldn't be Star Wars.
>>64258291
Let me clarify, they at least tried to inject some level of art into it.
Sure, it was mostly corporate produced garbage, but there's something good there.
>>64258337
Inside Out, Mad Max, The One With the Black Guy
>>64258391
Inside Out was meh, Mad Max was so fucking overrated it hurts. And if the last one you're talking about is Creed, that movie was nigger trash. Real art of 2015 film comes in the form of Ex Machina
>>64258428
Inside Out made me cry, Mad Max was awesome fun, and I haven't seen Ex Machina yet, it feels to lonely to watch and I need friends.
>>64258428
>Real art of 2015 film comes in the form of Ex Machina
You're just as anti art as the person you're replying to
>>64252822
>well-done
It felt like star wars because it was a 1:1 carbon copy of the original
I was like 7 years old when my grandfather introduced me to the movies. He had the OT on VHS. I immediately fell in love, I was super hyped when I heard about the PT being made and seen those while I was young as well, so I really enjoy those too unlike most of /tv/. I was excited when I heard TFA was being made but upset that Disney was doing it. I took my 5 year old brother to see it last weekend. He really enjoyed it. I wish TFA was never made, it is horrible. JJ fucked everything up. As an action movie is was a'ight but as a SW movie, it was horrible.
>>64259247
>trying this hard
kek
>>64252822
If Rey doesn't go dark side and Kylo doesn't go lightside and Finn and Poe go homosex it will be tumblr power fantasy and fanfic.
>>64252822
I thought it was perfect until han showed up and then it went to hell.
I know JJ wanted it to feel like "The future of the past" but everything felt too shiny and modern after Han appeared. Don't get me started on that orange woman.
>>64252822
>well done fancfiction
oxymoron, kek
its more like a marvel rehashan than star wars
>>64253087
It had very cursory elements from Flash Gordon, as well as Hidden Fortress, Dam Busters, Joseph Campbell, etc
This was just a rehash of that
>>64258344
George didn't make Star Wars to sell toys, but he did amp it up once they started selling
>>64252822
- rey is either a flat character or her character wasn't developed enough. Her conflict of belonging needed more screentime.
- Finn is absolutely great. Boyega nailed it really well. He went from morally conflicted storm trooper to almost a jedi. Best character in movie.
- Ren is kind of meh as a villain and needed more spectacle. Still He is ,IMO an improvement on SW villains since he humanizes the Sith. Just wish he was more compelling the way real villains are in real life - doing bad things for a perceived greater good. Based on his hairstyle and the way his plot is going, hell be something like a reverse Anakin. Probably will kill big bad by the end and become Vader of the Jedi.
- Comedy is good. That solo-chewwy thing. I will never have a chewy bro or be solo-ish in my life.
- I DEMAND MORE SCREEN TIME FOR WOMAN TROOPER WITH CAPE
- it lacks politics and taxes. Good riddance.
My wish for EP.8 is Wuxia with Luke to Rey the way Morpheus is to Neo.
>>64261842
I agree villains aren't developed that well. Kylo had the most but the others are just there to be baddies.
You could say the same about tarkin and that fuck who almost got strangled to death by vader too, though.
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>muh corporate influence is corrupting star wars
You were saying?
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>>64253036
Star Wars has never had fantastic monsters before.
It felt like trash written by SJW writers meant to sell products and promote progressivism in media.
The only halfway interesting topic is Ren but frankly the whole movie was a repeat of the original with a transgendered luke and a black solo.
>>64261842
>- Ren is kind of meh as a villain and needed more spectacle.
I did appreciate that they took a risk with Kylo Ren. So much of TFA felt really "safe" and having a villain who is explicitly a whining wannabe with daddy issues was definitely not the safe choice. They could've made a blatant Vader expy. Instead they made a guy who tries to live up to Vader and fails. He's a villain who has flaws and weaknesses and some apparent goal beyond "being evil." I want to learn more about him and will see the next movie to do so - in that, he does his job as a character for this movie. What the fuck did the giant emperor dude tell him? We know he tricked Kylo somehow but we don't know how. It's not an oversight, just something for the next story.
As cool as Vader was, I didn't have questions about him by the end of ANH.
Did this movie introduce ANYTHING new?
At least Episode one showed us the politics, pod racing, jedi council, jedi doing "missions," and we got a sense of a WORLD.
>>64262648
Oh boy one of those people ITT guys
>>64252822
Didn't feel remotely like Star Wars. It was a hollow mess. Had the shiny plastic feel of a brand new product that's likely to be eaten up on Tumblr and by blind fans. It's utterly forgettable.
>Phasma is a joke.
>Kylo Ren's face reveal prompted laughter.
>Dumb as hell monster CGI moment in the freighter.
>No one in the plot seems to care about or be aware of Starkiller base until the very end.
>There are no stakes set up at any point.
>First Order, Republic, and Resistance are all nebulous entities with undefined scope with a complex relationship that is never explained adequately.
>Boring dogfights.
The acting was the only thing that saved this. That and the sheer weight of nostalgia.
>>64255468
that was the worst part of the movie. I even go for the good guys in Star Wars but wanted her to fuck that porch monkey up.
I liked it.
It was unintentionally funny though.
it felt less like star wars than the prequels. I was actually really optimistic going in, but it turned out to be complete and utter shit. Oh well, glad I didn't get too hyped for it.
Felt like aglib facsimile.
>>64262897
The best part of the movie for me was when Carrie Fisher first appeared on screen and the guy sitting in front of me laughed his ass off.
>>64262648
>showed us the politics
AHAHAHAHA FAGGOT
>pod racing
And to think TFA's detractors say the action felt disconnected from any story. The podrace was literally unnecessary CGI porn.
>jedi council
AHAHAHA FAGGOT
>jedi doing "missions,"
...the characters do stuff? k?
>and we got a sense of a WORLD.
No, you just either grew up with the prequels, or you're one of those dumb contrarians who take a position just because it runs counter to what you consider mainstream. Nowadays, saying the prequels suck is so popular and widely accepted, that contrarian hipster retards now defend it just to be different.
>>64263060this
>>64252822
felt like a poorly done fan fiction
>>64258868
luke didn't solo darth vader 5 minutes after ben died. that part was a bit weird
it doesn't look like ANH at all if you consider where things go from here. in this respect I think the biggest problem with the new movie shows itself, which is that the villains are lame. They're like a knock-off empire in the worst way, made more cartoony. Except for the stormtroopers, which were actually very well done - but the officers, leadership, structure, and goals of the First Order are the weakest part of the movie.
What I find amazing is that the people saying the movie was
>bad fanfiction
>SJW propaganda baww I only watch movies with white people in them ;_;
>a cynical cash-in
>not 'true' Star Wars
>lacking in "soul" or "heart" or other vague bullshit
>not good enough, ignoring that literally less than half of the movies in the franchise are even worth seeing
are the same people who said the exact same complaints before the movie came out.
Some people confuse being cynical and hating things with being smart and independent. It's not a bad thing to like something. It's a good movie. Is it perfect? No. Is it worth all the hype? No, but what could be? But is it a good movie? Absolutely.
There are legit criticisms that can be made of the movie, but a lot of y'all come off like you just enjoy shitting on popular things. And there's nothing lower than a fucking hipster.
>>64263213
Not even the guy you're replying, but you made absolutely no effort to try and make an actual point. Just shit-flinging and calling someone a contrarian doesn't actually make their arguments invalid.
He listed a bunch if valid reasons as to why Episode I is actually pretty decent, and you just jumped into your reddig-backed prequel hate-wagon instead of countering those arguments with logic and sense.
It's hard for any movie to feel like a "real Star Wars movie" to me when it's filmed in the 20xxs and not the 1970-80s
but this does pretty well
>>64264245
>showed us the politics
This was literally one of the worst parts of the entire prequel trilogy. The only people who defend this are hardcore nerds who care about space taxes and contrarian faggots who think defending the prequels is the new thing that makes you hip and interesting because hating the prequels is "reddig-backed". Your own language shows why I call this view contrarian.
>pod racing
And to think TFA's detractors say the action felt disconnected from any story. The podrace was literally unnecessary CGI porn.
>jedi council
Who literally act completely retarded for three full movies and consistently fail to take basic reasonable actions, while constantly setting up unexplained things like prophecies that we are given no information about.
>jedi doing missions
Not sure what the point is here.
>and we got a sense of a WORLD..
This is an utterly meaningless criticism. That's why it's hard to come up with a meaningful response to it. How did Episode 1's Tatooine give "a sense of a WORLD" when it is quite literally the same world we saw already, more than Jakku gave a sense of a world devastated by an apocalyptic orbital battle where most people now live as scavengers picking through the wreckage of the old war?
Felt like a JJ. Abrams movie about Star Wars
>>64258452
Ex Machina is great to watch alone. It works in the films favour.
Badly directed and badly written fan project.
Shit like 90-year old Han using Chewie's bowcaster and saying "I like this gun!" was absolutely rotten and cringe-inducing, but at the same time, too boring to be memorable (or meme-worthy).
Or that pointless conversation where Finn and Rey planned to flood the Falcon with gas because stormtrooper masks "filter out smoke, not toxins". Then no stormtrooper turn up and no gas is used anyway, rendering the entire conversation pointless while at the same time introducing a really dumb, unbelievable technicality to the Star Wars universe (so what use ARE stormtrooper helmets?)
>>64264245
Literally why the fuck do you or anyone else care what reddit thinks?
Why do you define your stance by what reddit's stance is?
Are you too much of a child to form your own opinion of a film?
>>64264520
>absolutely rotten and cringe-inducing
I'd love to hear the nerd rage that must have gone into this statement.
>>64264391
Thank you, based anon
Felt like it overvalued plot versus characters. I was hoping to have a quiet scene in the film, but it went from 0 to 60 right after the opening crawl and never slowed. Just a whole lot of explosions and snark. Really a shame since those moments shined to me in the originals.
>>64264779
>it went from 0 to 60 right after the opening crawl and never slowed.
Are you talking about the same movie everyone else is?
The one that stops for half an hour to show us Rey's scavenger lifestyle? Then stops for longer to have extended dialogue with Han and Rey? And stops for a while to have an obligatory cantina scene? And quiet scenes of sneaking around in Starkiller Base?
Sorry, but "never slowing" is just not a legitimate criticism of the movie.
I don't even care that it was a rehash. My biggest problem was the pacing. It was too fucking fast for a Star Wars flick. You can tell that JJ made a three hour movie that was cut down to two hours and some change.
>>64264832
None of those scenes ever ring as quiet. Rey scavenging is filled with quick shots that look pretty but have no real thematic relevance (as is Abram's style). The Han and Rey stuff was nice, but had no real follow through. The Cantina Scene was forgettable and derivative with no new insight or reason for existing other than unimaginative shoehorning of references. Like that one moment where Finn literally runs into a reference from a new hope (the holo chess board) which just creates and awkward pause with lots of stares and waiting. All in all, those moments where very rare and ultimately the movie was about going down a checklist of things to get to in the plot with little regard for character development. I never really got a sense of who these characters were going to become, but more of a sense of the archetypal roles they were fulfilling.
>>64265055
>but more of a sense of the archetypal roles they were fulfilling.
I recommend you watch the Akira Kurosawa film"The Hidden Fortress" if you're worried about the character roles in TFA being derivative.
>>64265055
>self fulfiling prophecy and confirmation bias, the post
Gotcha
>>64252822
High budget youtube video written via a tumblerina pretty much.
>>64255468
>make 13 year olds laugh
maybe that's because the movie is PG-13 you fucking dumbass
>>64265116
Yeah, yeah. My point being that Luke felt like a kid growing up in a farm town with dreams of something bigger. Rey felt like the outline for a character of that type with not much else to make her feel like a fully formed person. Finn had an interesting "origin", but his character was mostly comic relief and action. I felt no real connection with him as a character. I'm honestly interested to see where these characters are taken, because the foundation is solid, but that's mainly due to the actors and less so the really thinly written script.
>>64264520
>badly directed
you are just wrong.
>>64265158
Wow that's crazy that I'm being subjective when discussing my opinion of a film. Nice job catching that one, Sherlock.
>>64262648
>Stromtrooper as protog
>Female as lead, and Jedi-ish
>Lightsaber fight with a non-force user
>Han Solo using the crossbow
>The First Order
>Seduction and pull to The Light side.
>Han Solo saying 'Vader'
>Only movie except Empire to not go to to Tatooine
>female stormtroopers
>non-jedi force worshippers
....
>>64255468
>why are 13 year olds watching MY star wars movies?!
How old were you when you first watched Star Wars, exactly?
They have always been family-friendly films. This movie at least did a much, MUCH better job at being kid-accessible, but not for-kids, than Episode 1 did.
I imagine it felt like what the Star Trek remake felt like to Trekkies.
>>64265201
What are you talking about? There's so much to Rey. She's a scavenger, she's had to rely only on herself. She's been alone all this time, but she's still kind-hearted. She doesn't long for adventure like Luke, she just longs for her family.
The character is definitely fleshed out and she goes through an arc by the end of the movie.
>thinly written
I don't even know what to say to this. Do you even know what that means? The script had absolutely no plotholes and plenty of depth, especially in the Rey and Kylo areas.
Just because you're too focused on criticizing it to actually see these things isn't the movie's fault.
>>64265231
>missing the point, the post
Poe was the only character that I felt was straight from the OT. It was too good in fact.
That female alien in the not-the-Dagobar was terrible. A boring looking alien with a discombobulated voice.
BB8 just felt like an Elmo version of R2D2.
It's exactly like Star Trek '09 - a modernisation. However, the cast of Star Trek '09 were too good. There are moments where Chris Pine feels like Shatner's kid.
>>64265410
I honestly felt like Chris Pine was the weakest link in the cast. Maybe I'm just some sort of faggot.
>>64265410
Also, self-awareness. When is that ship going to sail?
This movie just made me appreciate ANH a lot more.
After seeing a few of JJ's movies, it's become increasingly obvious he has no idea how to organically flesh out characters and add depth to them. He's so fucking concerned with losing the attention span of the lowest common denominator that he sacrifices time that should be spent on character development for some action sequence or some awkward joke.
Maybe it's just the culture we live in, judging by the huge rise in capeshit, but I really was hoping for a movie aspiring to be the next ANH. What I got was Star Trek: Into Darkness but with a tint of Star Wars and nostalgia.
>>64265438
Well, there's one moment that cemented this for me.
Towards the end of the film, one of the crew members says "I hope you know what you're doing" and Pine says "so do I..."
The way he said felt so much like a Shatner line. It was really good.
>>64265410
I felt Poe was more out of Firefly than Star Wars. Quick to quip instead of anything of actual substance.
I guess he was trying to be the next Han, but it just felt off to me. Probably the writing's fault, desu.
>>64265456
I think Kylo had some pretty good development. It leads me to believe he's the main character of this arc.
>>64265347
>The script had absolutely no plotholes and plenty of depth, especially in the Rey and Kylo areas.
I'm well aware of what it means, and yes, the script is easily the weakest aspect of the film. There was a vast amount of plotholes and any semblance of character depth there was was said explicitly by the characters' through dialog with no subtlety or actual depth. I won't write a long list of plotholes that stuck out to me, but I'll just mention a few in as non-spoilery a way I can: Millennium Falcon being fully operational in a junkyard, Unlocked wooden chest with a lightsaber, R2 waking up. All of those were lazy ways to get to the next plot point that just created more questions and lapses in logic.
Also, please explain Rey's arc to me. As far as I could tell, she went from girl who misses her family to girl who misses her family with force powers.
I'm sorry that you can't believe someone could have valid reasons for not liking this film.
>>64265499
Leia had tons of quick quips. People keep trying to compare him to Han when he's really just Leia with a dick and Luke's piloting skills.
>>64265505
Too bad he's so fugly and terribly acted that I couldn't give a shit less what happens to his emo ass.
Plus, that kind of redemption shit is too advanced for this new star wars.
>>64265499
>that line when they're going to take out the death sun about how its absorbing the sun's energy and "as long as there's still light, we have a chance!" or something like that
made me cringe desu
Huge plot holes:
-Rey is ultimate Mary Sue female empowerment fantasy. Better pilot than Han Solo. More powerful than a Dark Jedi. Can use force techniques she doesn't even know about. Beats a trained swordsman the first time she picks up a saber. It's so ridiculous it's laughable. It's also really insulting.
>The Millenium Falcon, the most famous ship in the galaxy, is just sitting around, fully fueled, weapons armed, and the door is wide open. This is after it has been stolen many times.
>Finn has a problem killing civilians but doesn't hesitate to kill literally dozens of his own men, the only people he has known his whole life. Self defense of not, he is a murderer and a traitor.
>Han Solo his happens to come along as soon as the Falcon leaves Jakku. A galaxy is a massive thing, but he just happens to be in the neighborhood.
>There's yet another fucking Death Star, only it's bigger and has an even bigger weak point.
>The shields on the Starkiller can be lowered by ONE FUCKING PERSON. Why would a Stormtrooper captain even know or be trained to do something like that?
It also steals literally dozens of ideas from the previous trilogy. And not just ideas, but also themes like redemption, belonging, family, etc
JJ Abrahms is also a shit director who has no eye for composition, he can't frame a decent shot to save his life. His pacing is also garbage.
This film also marks the worst score by John Wiliams in his whole career.
All of this stuff is indefensible.
>>64264182
No fuck you dude. A professional and competently made movie is not necessarily a good movie. There were no GOOD MOMENTS in this movie. There was nothing memorable, there was nothing impressive. There were no good lines, there was no surprise, there weren't even new locations or interesting details to look at. And this is why you see everyone tearing the movie up, there's nothing GOOD to talk about. What specifically can you praise the movie for? People liked Kylo and the unexpected bromance, but what fucking else is there? There's nothing, at least not for actual Star Wars fans that wanted to nerd out again, but it sure does LOOK good to the average bystander and self-proclaimed connoisseur who can just point to the prequels and production values when he gets any flak. At least it LOOKED GOOD, THANKS JJ!
>>64265761
>Finn has a problem killing civilians but doesn't hesitate to kill literally dozens of his own men, the only people he has known his whole life. Self defense of not, he is a murderer and a traitor.TRAITOR!
>>64265761
Kylo Ren also goes out like a total punk. And he's a whiny, tantrum throwing emo brat.
>>64265761
most of those aren't plot holes, they're just "come the fuck on" stuff. it's not an inconsistency or anything, it's just silly.
>>64265824
Huge plot holes.
>>64258167
This is how I feel as well. It basically felt like a Marvel movie but with a Star Wars skin.
It also doesn't help Disney over fucking merchandise their shit like crazy, literally seen Star Wars "Feel the force" oranges at my local super market. What the fuck? What do oranges, as in the fucking fruit have to do with Star Wars?
Disney are the fucking worst when it comes to merchandising.
>>64252822
Rey's introduction on Jakku is 100% spot-on. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside everytime I watch it.
>>64265849
>>64265896
Yeah I love watching her act cunty to BB-8 and chewing with her mouth open. Truly memorable cinema.
Well-done fanfiction
Felt that way with the trailers too.
>>64262711
>Boring dogfights.
This was the worst, and I had high hopes after Nu-Trek actually had decent space battle scenes like the Kelvin scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRsHBe0jErk
It didn't feel like a George Lucas star wars
But then again, neither did the prequels
>>64255954
I actually enjoyed Kylo Ren a lot, other than that I agree.
>>64265761
All of this is true, and right on the mark. And yet the movie still mostly works, and has a likability to it.
The long term problem for it is that it didn't stake it's own claim, and outside of Han and Kylo on the bridge (and Luke in Ireland), it didn't have many iconic moments. That's going to effect how people view it in ten years.
>>64265917
Well played.
>>64265998
In my experience, the more people think about it the more they are disappointed with it. The movie falls apart over time.
I honestly don't give a shit about Rey not do I care where her story is going. I will watch the rest of this trilogy because I'm a sucker, and for no other reason.
Marvel revolutionized a new form of filmmaking. They made a series of movies (i.e. Iron Man, Cap, Thor, etc.) that were all commercials for the big blockbuster event movie of the year (i.e. Avengers). This proved so successful that it's now the go to formula for storytelling just like how Pixar was for children's movies. The only problem with this new type of storytelling is that it isn't about delivering one good standalone story, but a series of promises that never really deliver, because, studios have now learned, it's not really about delivering it's about making promises so that people show up, the rest is irrelevant. So now, we have the Marvel approach being applied to Star Wars. They will just follow the formula of the original trilogy. (JJ is Lucas-lite, Johnson is interesting and different and a little dark, Trevorrow is a proven money-maker and studio puppet.)
The scary thing is that it won't just end with a new trilogy. All those standalones coming out will be reintroducing old characters as played by new people and if logic follows that means eventually all these newly cast younger versions of iconic characters will meet up for one big event film and what do you suppose that will be...maybeThe complete Star Wars Franchise Reboot?it's really not so far-fetched when you think about how often studios are recycling ideas now...
>>64266064
The worst is there is blatantly going to be more than 1 Star Wars movie a year in the coming years.
FFS they are doing "origin stories" for Obi Wan and Han Solo and Leia and shit.
>>64252822
It feels like a parody more than anything.
>>64252822
It felt like a Star Wars movie. The prequels are the ones that feel like cheap fanfics.
>>64262446
It's not about the monsters, but the ridiculousness of the whole situation, with some meme gangsters standing on opposite sides of the hallway, Han with his meme fan service dialogue, and the comic book action scene that followed.
>>64266043
I'll watch the rest of the trilogy to see what happens with Luke and Kylo. Plus, I love seeing Chewbacca and the Falcon.
I'm hoping Rey has an interesting arc that goes somewhere unexpected. But I'm not holding my breath. Feminists won't let her have a character arc because character arcs are sexist.
>>64253087
Flash Gordon? The flick that came out three years after ANH?
I really enjoyed it.
However, in a lot of ways it felt like a series of battles loosely connected by a thin thread of story. It also had a different humour to it, much more self referential though I don't see this as a bad thing.
My biggest complaint was Kylo Ren. He felt more like an emo teenager than a fear-inspiring master of the dark side. They definitely revealed his weakness too early.
Also, where the fuck was Lando?
>>64264182
>Some people confuse being cynical and hating things with being smart and independent. It's not a bad thing to like something. It's a good movie. Is it perfect? No. Is it worth all the hype? No, but what could be? But is it a good movie? Absolutely.
>There are legit criticisms that can be made of the movie, but a lot of y'all come off like you just enjoy shitting on popular things. And there's nothing lower than a fucking hipster.
Common sense on muh /tv/? GTFO
>>64266214
>flick
there was a tv show before ANH, you stupid cunt
>>64252822
What does "feeling" like star wars means?
The original trilogy feels nothing like the prequels, and neither of them feel anything like the old republic era.
Times change and so does the universe of star wars, so what exactly do you mean by "feeling" like star wars?
>Final showdown doesn't feature the villain in a position of power and the hero having to confront them at a disadvantage
>Tracking shots, fast edits instead of framed clear shots
>And the girl manages to win
Literally how hard would it have been to have Chewy shoot him from the Millennium Falcon?
Holy shit that entire fucking fight was dreadful.
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jao_Assam
>>64264182
Where do you think we are, etc., etc.
4chan is a site of special interest boards on the internet. It's not a place where you hangout and talk like you do to your buddies on a friday night. This is meant for in depth highly charged conversations, and yeah, most of the time it's a bunch of internet retards trying to out edge each other, but it's a great way to learn to for an argument and defend yourself in an articulate way, because otherwise you just get dumbshit responses. Don't write off impassioned film discussion as shitting on popular things just because people don't articulate themselves well. Instead, try bringing up a topic of discussion that interests you and discuss it. Ignore those that don't want to do that, but don't shit on the whole concept just because of a few bad apples. Maybe I'm too idealistic about what 4chan could be, but every now and then there's a really good discussion that comes out of these threads just every once in a blue moon.
>>64252822
>well done
not even on Star Trek 09's level, only saved by Harrison Ford giving a shit for a few moments and the three new actors being well cast. Everything else was trash.
Neither. It came across as poorly done fanfiction.
>>64265784
I get to know what it's like to be an autist vicariously through you. Thank you kind anon
>>64265946
Agreed
I can't imagine the autists on /tv/ would like it though. Bet they'd wouldn't pick up on the endearing aspects being autists and all
>>64266517
Thanks, I'm not the most perspicacious person but it's good to know I'm not wrong
>>64264182
>converted gif
P O O R T A S T E
>>64266321
The fight was well done, but ultimately may have damaged both Rey and Kylo's characters permanently.
-Kylo looks weak.
-Rey doesn't need training to beat best warrior in Galaxy at his type of fight (therefore her "arc" is over)
Bad decision Disney
>>64266691
It's obvious their sides will switch
Rey, since she's an already perfect snowflake will turn to the dark side to untap her power
Kylo, unhappy with the fact he basically killed his father and still got btfo by some literally who sand bitch will realize the dark side is shit and turn to the lightside
Thus Kylo can actually grow as a character and the mary sue no one likes becomes a perfect villain.
>>64266793
That would be awesome. But -
We live in a world where the SJW religion dominates every facet of our life (like the Catholic Church in Europe a few centuries back). And within this illogical narrative, women and blacks can never ever never be villians or even have real flaws/arcs. That's why Rey won the fight, and will do everything right until the end.
So due to this paradigm, I'm dubious that anything dramatically interesting will happen. But i hope you're right. It would a good story.
It came across like a nostalgic cash grab, like Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull or w/e
Just a more well done nostalgic cash grab with OK but not great villain angst
>>64266793
>It's obvious their sides will switch
no it isn't. you're making the mistake of assuming Disney have a plan when the evidence is the exact opposite.
