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This picture is from a '60s French comic dubbed a "space opera."
>George Lucas is such a mastermind and world builder! Much original!
You all got conned
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>>64218003
Proof?
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>>64218003
I hate George more every day. His hack-ness knows no bounds.
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>>64218003
>redhead next to "Han"
MARA JADE CONFIRMED FOR EPISODE VIII
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Everyone steals shit
Get over it
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>>64218019
It's real.
Google Valérian and Laureline
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>>64218003
Incredible how they captured the likeness of Carrie Fisher, Mark Hammil, and Harrison Ford before they were cast
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>>64218003
http://www.popularmechanics.com/culture/movies/a15532/heres-what-star-wars-took-from-valerian/

Interesting article about this
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Somebody needs to tell this to kanjiklub
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The design of Valérian and Laureline's XB982 astroship and the Millennium Falcon spaceship that appears in Episodes IV–VI of Star Wars.

A scene in There's No Time Like the Present where Valerian escapes by falling into a laundry washing vat, exits through a portal at the bottom of the vat, and falls out of a hole at the bottom of the space station hanging from a sheet with The Empire Strikes Back where the character Luke Skywalker escapes Darth Vader by falling down a chasm, goes through a vent, and falls out of Cloud City hanging from an antenna.

A scene in Empire of a Thousand Planets (L'Empire des Mille Planètes) where Valérian is encased in a liquid plastic and a scene in The Empire Strikes Back where the character Han Solo is encased in a substance called carbonite.

The slave-girl costume worn by Laureline in World Without Stars and the costume worn by the character Leia Organa in the scenes where she is enslaved by Jabba the Hutt in Return of the Jedi

A scene in Empire of a Thousand Planets where one of the Authorities removes his helmet to reveal his burned and scarred face underneath and a scene in Return of the Jedi where the character Darth Vader removes his helmet to reveal the burned face of Anakin Skywalker.

The alien Shingouz and the Toydarian character Watto seen in The Phantom Menace.

The concept of the Clone wars, where a whole army has the face of a cloned single man (Valerian himself) is featured in the final scene of On the False Earths.
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Lucas has patrician tastes.
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>>64218003
>>64218350
Wow
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>>64218377
Holy shit he stole the whole fucking trilogy. The absolute madman
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>>64218251
It's almost like you can find actors to fill a certain role or something! And that you should go back to reddit!
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>tfw JJ Abrams' Star Wars is more original than Lucuck's
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>retards actually think this is real

They would have sued the shit out of Lucas by now, retard.

Fucking redditors, I swear...
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>>64218501
Fucking idiot the comic artist sent that to lucas after he realized he was ripped off
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>>64218003
I-it even has a redhead 2nd waifu
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>>64218506
but jj's star wars is a just a worse version of lucas'
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>>64218528
You just sound desperate, George
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>>64218251
OP picture is obviously earlier than the movies.

However that's not the case for >>64218350
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>>64218620

>reddit """"humor""""
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>>64218630
>image.jpg

Why aren't phone posters banned on sight? Has a phone poster ever made a post that wasn't a shitpost?
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George stole from old sci-fi, wooow stop the presses
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>>64218528
>suing over artistic plaguerism from a foreign nation in the 70s
>this is how millenials think the world works
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This is the redpill /tv/ needs but not one it will ever swallow.
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>>64218679
>Autism
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>>64218679
Trek thread's sorenposter.
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>>64218653
Wait I messed up.

I meant OP's picture was made after the movies came out.
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>>64218003
ITT no one bothers to actually check this out.
The picture is of Leia and Luke meeting the protagonists of Valerian in a Space Cantina, with Leia saying 'fancy meeting you here' and the man answering 'We've been around for a while'.

IT LOOKS LIKE LEIA AND LUKE BECAUSE IT IS LEIA AND LUKE YOU DUMB FAGGOTS.
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>>64218350
>want to see where the world will be in 20 years?
>look at what the french are doing today

Why is this true bros?
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>>64218706

Are you stupid or something, you underage redditor?
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>>64218749
Two people already said that
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>>64218749
NO FUKKEN WAY BRO!
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>>64218019
>>64218163
>>64218251
>>64218528
>>64218551
>>64218630
>>64218693
>all this denial as their Leia pegging fantasies crumble around them
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>>64218350
Slave Leia was taken from Deja Thoris of the John Carter books.
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>>64218679
They are pleb iPhoneposters faggot
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OP image is bullshit

But there are instances where George really did take shit wholesale from other works obviously, everybody talks about Kurosawa and Flash Gordon and Dune but there's quite a bit of other stuff some people might be too aware of: for example, nobody really acknowledges how much he took from Lensman, the first book literally has an artificial planetoid that the protagonists (two men and a girl) are caught by a tractor beam with.
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>>64218893
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallelomania
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>>64218749
/thread
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>This thread

You guys realize Star Wars is and always was meant to be a pastiche of stuff exactly like this, right?
Like, that's the entire point. Lucas was paying homage to the things he grew up with, which included comics like this french space opera.
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>>64218942
Plenty of it is documented though. Especially with Dune's influence.
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>>64218987
Tell that to kanjiklub
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>>64218893
There's also the Japanese movie The Magic Serpent that Lucas borrowed even more heavily than from Hidden Fortress. Also cribbing words from the John Carter novels.
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http://www.moongadget.com/origins/index.html
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>>64218893
>he took from Lensman
So did Green Lantern
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>>64218893
It becomes a bit ridiculous when you say, oh he took the synthetic planet from this novel, he took the gold bikini from this comic, he took the comedic duo from this japanese movie, he took space cantinas from this random pulp magazine.

Its not as though any of those things would've been the only time they were used before Star Wars, and half of them were scifi tropes already. In the case of the bikini, did he steal it from Valerian or from John Carter? IN the case of Space Cantincas, did he steal it from Valerian or a random pulp fiction magazine?

Its a case of finding common traits within a genre and claiming they were all stolen.
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>>64218003
>Mézières' response upon seeing Star Wars was that he was "dazzled, jealous... and furious!".[24] As a riposte, Mézières produced an illustration for Pilote magazine in 1983 depicting the Star Wars characters Luke Skywalker and Leia Organa meeting Valérian and Laureline in a bar surrounded by a bestiary of alien creatures typical of that seen in both series. "Fancy meeting you here!" says Leia. "Oh, we've been hanging around here for a long time!" retorts Laureline.[25] Mézières has since been informed that Doug Chiang, design director on The Phantom Menace, kept a set of Valérian albums in his library.[9]

Nice try. While they have similarities, it's not plagiarism to take inspiration from other works.
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Lucas obviously saw Ice Cold in Alex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uabATePFYg

Music sound familiar?
That opening shot looks like it could be Tatooine.
The battleships become space ships.
He even hired the same director of photography

BRAVO GEORGE
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>>64219015
Magic Serpent is a serious candidate. The obi wan/ Vader relationship of the evil pupil betraying his mentor. The Mentor recruiting the young warrior to train to be a magical swordsman to fight his former pupil who is the young warrior's father, then rescue his (unknown to himself) sister.
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>>64219253
There's also a cloud city in a Star Trek episode.
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>>64219314
But Star Trek also copied alot from Forbidden Planet.
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>>64219314
Tell that to kanjiklub
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>>64218003
Bullshit that drawing is from 1983.

>>64218350
That album however is from 1971.
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>>64219335
Forbidden Planet was just The Tempest in space.
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>>64219267
The boy is a ninja not a swordsman.
The villain is not the young warrior's father.
The girl is not his sister.
Did you bother to check this out yourself or did you just read a buzzfeed/cracked article?
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>>64219128
even when it rips from pulp stories capeshit is inferior, Doc Smith was far more insane and imaginative than any capeshit writer
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>>64219374
The Tempest borrowed heavily from cave paintings
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>>64219374
The template of the Federation used in Forbidden Planet did not come from the Tempest.
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>>64219403
>Cave paintings
>>>/trash/
Overrated caveman hack, just drew stick figures of deer. Isn't even any CGI.
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wait so your saying the chosen one story isnt original? my life is a lie.
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>>64219335
There's a Cloud City in Forbidden Planet?
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>>64219554
No only that Star Trek also copies elements from other sources.
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>>64219554
there was a cloud city in Gulliver's travels.
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I like the stuff Star Wars influenced more so than Star Wars itself.
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>>64219508
Everything copied Kung Pow! Enter the Fist.
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he did it as a tribute you plebmaster
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>>64219613
So?
I was only talking about other shows/films where there was a Cloud City identical in design and nature to the one in ESB..
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>>64219650
I will have to consider that.
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>>64219617
There was a Cloud City in Kung Fu Panda
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>>64219617
Yes. Laputa.
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>>64219708
I hope this reference isn't too obscure.
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Everyone knows that Star Wars is the best example of stealing well in a movie. And it's not just Flash Gordon, Kurosawa, and Sergio Leone. He stole from comics, magazines, Psycho, sci-fi concept art, and all sorts of other shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK8B10_oY5g
http://kitbashed.com/
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>>64219732
There was a Cloud City in Problem City II: Hothead Cloud Boogaloo.
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>>64219638
I thought Yas' Kei looked like Amuro in drag.
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>>64219816
Geroge brought all that stuff together so well though.
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>>64219872
Ya but try telling that to kanjiklub
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>>64219206
I'm ok with you, but for Valerian, it's not one thing or two.
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>>64219861
This one certainly accentuates that.
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>>64219861
best part
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>>64220000
Those outfits look more like Starcrash
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guess its time to post this again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coGpmA4saEk
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>>64219206
Explain this shit without memeing
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>>64219250
>Music sound familiar?

Williams whole shtick is ripping off classical composers
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>>64220082
I don't do anything without memeing. You knew what you were getting into when we got married.
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>>64220082
>Valerian invented every SF trope ever
Kek
Have you seen "Jodorowsky's Dune?"
SW is more Mœbius' Dune, then this guy.

>>64219250
heh, gonna blow yer mind son
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0bcRCCg01I
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Any of these French bitches got hairy pits?
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>>64220082
>not memeing
GET THIS HOTHEAD OUTTA HERE
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>>64220228
every single one
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>>64220228
Yes, Carrie Fisher
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>>64220272
Pics?
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>>64220325
Go Nagai invented everything.

Especially sex.
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>>64220082
The Vader guy could be taken, but its a fiction-wide trope of having people in masks revealing fucked up faces.

The Watto guy is fucking nothing, a kind of similiar-looking alien.

They probably took a lot of cues from the spaceship design.

The metal bikini is fucking nothing, it's stock-standard for space fantasy and just plain normal fantasy before that.

The stasis thing may also be taken, although its another well-known trope of scifi/space fantasy.
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>>64220409
>The stasis thing may also be taken, although its another well-known trope of scifi/space fantasy.
Shit son, snow white was essentially frozen in carbonite.
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>>64220325
Go Nagai is such a bro
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>>64220461
>wen u tryna take boo to dinner n chill n ur bff dimes u to da empire and boba fett carbonates u
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>>64220290
internet
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>>64220571
you will never turn harrison ford into a giant mint condition frozen collectable and put him it in your living room.
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>>64218003
Lucas never claimed to be original, he just repackaged old stuff for newer audiences. Little sprats never read classic sci-fi or heard the term "space opera" until he put it on the screen. He made the brass brassiere respectable again, that's alright by me.
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It's circular, everybody steals.
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>>64221158
Light-sabers are better with giant robots, jus' saying.
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>>64220893
It would be cool for a few months, but eventually you're going to have to move, and you know it's just going to wind up in the back of the garage.
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