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She's not wrong you know. It's about time little girls had a hero who wasn't Cinderella or a damsal in distress. If you guys ever end up having daughters you will understand.
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>>64197477
>bad fan

holy fuck just kill me
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>>64197477

how about women look again like proper women?
and all these weirdos with shifting genders become priest, nuns, prostitutes and actors? it was like that for centuries, why does it have to become normalised now?
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>>64197477
>She
I thought it was the gay guy from glee when I looked at the image
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>>64197477

There really aren't. Little girls still want the same stuff they have always wanted. The audience is overwhelmingly male.

This social experiment has failed.
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>>64197477
that's a shit argument

rey isn't a hero to look up to, she's an unattainable standard to live up to because she's a mary sue

real people, even great people, are heavily flawed and most need help from someone else, that's not sexist that's human
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Are kids too good for Leia these days?

As shit as the prequels were, the concept of women Jedi was pretty common. I don't know why people have to treat TFA as some watershed moment of representation in the star wars universe.
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well if little girls think it's good then it must be good
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There's the image of a girl hero being the lead in the movie and beating people up and looking cool and fighting for justice and being capable

and then there's the fact that the writing is terrible

If we complain about that second thing it doesn't mean we're not all for the first thing. Why are women so stupid?
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If girls grow up idolizing Rey, they will quit at the first sign of failure.
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>>64198100
because they make no distinction between a momentary appearance and a consistent actuality.

>Criticize a woman for an instant
>must hate women, because you're not doing everything in your power not to appear so
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>>64197828
Because she's the main character, not a background character whose moment of glory is getting shot in the back. Stop being deliberately obtuse.
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>little girls expecting lightsabers from Santa

what did she mean by this?
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>>64198295
Kek. You done it now
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>>64197477
>Little girl lightsabers

Is this what they're calling vibrators now?
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>>64197477
It's funny that 4chan, a site filled with weeaboos, is critical of a franchise with a cute, tiny girl wielding weapons and beating up bad guys.
That's like all anime shows and movies.
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>>64197477
I like how her feminism is grounded in the idea of girls spending money on merchandise.
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>>64198414
Japanese society has distinguished female/male roles and identity. We have not.
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>>64198414
Nobody is claiming anime shows have good writing.
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>>64198414
3DPD is trash senpai
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>It's about time little girls had a hero who wasn't Cinderella or a damsal in distress
Isn't that what Hunger Games is for? Hell, even in Harry Potter Hermione is clearly the most competent, responsible wizard.
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>>64198295
Santa is going to give them something long and hard that buzzez
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>>64197477

But she's probably wrong

Maybe the girl fanbase grew marginally but at the end of the day they aren't as preoccupied with sci fi and fighting as boys are, at least to a fanboy extent

To that end, my little sister is a tomboy and by extension wants nothing to do with female characters, she likes Maul best
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>>64198454
not just buying merchandise, but buying merchandise that can double as a sex toy
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me at the left ;-;
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I find it highly ironic that SJWs and feminists are using Rey as their role model for little girls. Don't they realize that by giving these little girls Rey as their role model, that they are reinforcing the same unobtainable goals for their girls as they did when they gave them Barbies? But now instead of being anorexic fuck dolls now they have another thing they can never achieve. Why would they push that agenda? It benefits them to have a strong female protagonist who is flawed and grows rather than super perfect woman who does everything right.
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>>64198551
I bet she would love a lightsaber from Santa
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>>64197477
>majority of the SW audience is middle aged men

I guess if manchildren count as little girls..
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>>64198551
>BEE-BIY AITE
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>>64198587

There is nothing remotely logical about their demented media crusade

It is more feel-good ego stroking and "empowerment"
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>>64198619
>not wanting to be a little girl

check your ageist, sexist privilege, you shitlord
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>>64198587
>wields a glowing laser-phallus
>searching for THAT ONE SPECIAL MAN who will properly contextualize and guide her life
>GREAT FEMINIST ROLE MODEL
I love how inconsistent the rhetoric is.
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>>64197477

Her story is about as believable as Cinderella's

>Good things will magically happen to you and events will always go your way because you have a vagina
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>>64197477

She's wrong. I have 5 daughters, all aged between 5 to 13 years of ages, and none wants a saber or any kind of weapon. They all want girly stuff, not stuff to fight with.

That's also because my parenting isn't retarded. They all practice martial arts, they understand the difference between movies and actual fighting. They fight 3 evenings a week, it's not a fantasy to them. When they fantasise, they're princesses and queens.
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>>64198673
Stefonknee?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbiAHnjHlHg
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>>64198761
Can someone take this image I am posting and change it to Rey?
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>>64197477

>I-I-I'LL SHOW YOU STINKY BOYS!!!

*Gives money blindly to the jewish patriarchy*

>NUH NAH NUH NAH GIRLS RULE!

t. dumb femnazis
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>>64198514

Like that Harry Potter motorized broom from ten years ago?
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>>64197477
>we should just roll over and accept bad characters because they have vaginas

I thought feminists were the ones that wanted good female characters, shouldn't they be more critical than anyone? Also how are you a bad fan if you criticise something, and what the fuck does simple character analysis have to do with gender politics. We can't honestly judge and discuss the quality of our stories without bringing feminism into it now?
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>>64198414
let's take the plebbiest example of anime with strong female characters, the oeuvre of Miyazaki. The archetypal Miyazaki heroine\protagonist is Nausicaa, a princess with a mysterious connection to the natural force of the world she inhabits.

In her movie, Nausicaa:
>Is naively reckless, putting herself in danger alone in a toxic wasteland against the warnings of her people
>Is unable to save her father and in her despair, discovers her capacity for terrible violence that sends her into a terrible depression
>Carries out dangerous experiments beneath her town that horrifies her other father figure, luckily the experiment panned out
>Saves the woman whose forces murdered her father only to be held at gunpoint afterwards
>Tries to save the idiot pissing off the forest bugs only to get her shit totally wrecked and get knocked into quicksand
>Naively tried to bring a bug home as a little girl, risking her home getting stampeded, and has to learn a harsh lesson about life
>Discovers that her town is about to be massacred and gets punched unconscious and captured
>Tries to stop the idiots using the baby Ohmu as bait and just winds up crashing herself and their ship
>Gets her foot burned\eaten by acid when she tries to stop the baby bug from waltzing right into lake of said acid, has to have it healed by the bug
>Breaks down weeping in existential despair before the healing powers of the bug give her the will to continue
>Fucking DIES to calm the beasts about to stampede her village.

Rey has fucking jack shit on your average anime protagonist.
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>>64197477
What a stupid, manish looking cunt.
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>>64198823
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But isn't Rey destructive to little girls? She's skilled, loved, desired, strong, special, the list goes on. Isn't that a lot of expectations to burned children with?
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it's condescending to have such a falsely strong character like Rey. feminists should be upset that women aren't portrayed like real people.
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>>64199008

Don't even know what that term tries to imply

by inherent values, women seek to be the most attractive and beautiful and men seek to be the strongest and most alpha

these are the qualities that draw the two to each other
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>>64197477
This woman fits perfectly to the news today about geeks/star wars fans being narcissistic.
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>>64199011

Not only that, how does she come to channel the Force. Is it training, like Luke and Anakin? No, she closes her eyes and just "believes". She's just that "talented."
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>>64198913
You just know if Rey died in an act of martyrdom we'd all be complaining about that too.

The problem with female characters is really that there's just too much scrutiny from both sides. Too much gender politics. I'd really hope for female characters that aren't put up on a pedestal and carefully examined from all angles so much. I'd like to see a fantasy movie that can escape the real world context of gender politics, but it seems to be impossible today.
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>>64197477
>little girls
How the fuck do you know their gender you sexist bigot?! They should decide that xselves and only then tell you
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>>64197477

why do females get so defensive about a female character being criticised? its a fictional character subject to the same artistic standards as any other. its bizarre how personally they take it. just goes to show that jj purposefully made rey an overly perfect character to avoid women turning a flawed character into a controversy.
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I really hope she's right. I really do.

But I fear she's wrong.
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>I don't have to practice since everything will just come to me magically when I need it

if that's what the next generation of women believes I see no problem with it, keeps em down and dependant on the stronger sex
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>>64199217

Because these dumb bitches start passing anti-business laws that do shit like forcing companies to release payrolls of all employees opening them up to suit if Tina Fucktits decides she's getting paid less because of her gender and not the fact that she's a shitty employee

killing all measures of performance or merit-based raises and pay increases
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>>64199217
>dependent
Yeah but not the good kind like you want. It's more "spoiled trust-fund kid" than "submissive dependent."
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>>64197609
It was like that because people with non-normative genders/sexuality were horribly forced to hide/change. Now everyone knows it's no big deal so they don't have to hide anymore. It also wasn't like that in every culture, gay sex was totally normal in Roman times for instance.
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>>64199094
If Rey died at the end of her arc in TFA, it'd have been ridiculous.

If Rey died in a last-ditch effort after trying, failing, and trying again over the course of the movie, it'd have been INCREDIBLY impactful.
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>>64198551
she looks more like luke
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I think I kinda agree. Besides, its fucking Star Wars; people shouldn't be expecting a goddamn artistic masterpiece.


Anyhow this reminds me of something. On Christmas day I was with my two nieces (5 and 7) and they were opening their gifts. They saw one present (still wrapped) that looked like a mini skateboard and the oldest niece said "Oh I think that's a skateboard!", to which my youngest niece replied: "But I'm not a boy".

I don't want to go on about "gender roles" and stuff like that too much but it does kinda bother me that already she's thinking she can't do stuff just because she's a girl.
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>>64197477
Meanwhile, in 1977...
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>>64199784
This is why we need compulsory orphanages

We just can't trust most parents with raising their children to be anything
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>>64197477
>It's about time little girls had a hero who wasn't Cinderella or a damsal in distress.
>Frozen
>Brave
>Tangled
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>>64197477
how many of those little girls are going to experiment with their lightsabers as dildos, you think?
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>>64199795
Leia was sexualized. They won't accept her because men jacked off to her.

I can tell you now that no one will jerk it to Rey(her actress, sure, but not the actual character)
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>>64200134
>I can tell you now that no one will jerk it to Rey(her actress, sure, but not the actual character)
>implying
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>>64199882
kids are retards.

example
see at console wars on /v/ despite no parent promoting it.
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>>64200153
i get too angry to fap to her
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>>64199882
Definitely. It seems that loads of girls are raised and encouraged to be vain and "feminine", then years later they wonder why they incapable of doing the same things as men.

Frankly I think the problem is that both sexes are raised unequally, and not that they inherently unequal.
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>>64199008
>Implying Barbie isn't a female power fantasy
>completely misses the point of the picture.
I don't see many boys fantasizing about Barbie
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>>64200190

I mean, we are still different in many ways. It's just that different socialization exacerbates differences.

And I don't mean socialization in the way tumblrinas think it is, girls these days are given the path of least resistance growing up.
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>>64200153
>>>64199971
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>>64197477
>Feminists whine about female character tropes all the time
>Feminists defends the mother of all mary sues because muh Star Wars
Fuck off. Also girls don't give a fuck about star wars. Doesn't matter who the star/hero is
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>>64200134
Shame, she's a much stronger character. Her bants with Han are fantastic. Not to mention she toughs out torture, even at threat of her entire planet being blown up, and saves everyone's ass when their plan goes to shit. All with her own ingenuity and quick thinking. Not sudden magic powers.
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>>64198403
>tfw a whole generation of girls will have broke hymens from lightsaber toys
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>>64199784
>its fucking Star Wars; people shouldn't be expecting a goddamn artistic masterpiece.
Except it was
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Why are feminazis upset by Rey being called a Mary Sue? Is it because Mary Sue is itself a female name and they assume it must be a pejorative against strong womyn and not just a catchall term for poorly written characters that are exactly as strong as the plot requires them to be?
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>>64200190
>I think the problem is that both sexes are raised unequally, and not that they inherently unequal
>implying nurture > nature

The short answer is that it's both. Nature informs nurture which reinforces nature and so on. Also, the idea that the sexes are equal is an inherently silly argument. Certainly, one is not "better" or "worse" than the other, but they are clearly different. Even if the only difference between them was that one had bigger tits, the ripples of that difference would affect the way they're raised.
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>>64197477

this desu. My wife's daughter loved Star Wars.
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>>64200324
>tfw they won't be satisfied with LWC anymore and will seek out Jamal
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>>64198267
Like I said, I'm not using the movies as a guide post here. Women in heroic roles are not an unfamiliar concept to the star wars EU, and even in the OT Leia was a capable leader. Star Wars has been one of the more inclusive Scifi franchises for a long time, and acting like it FINALLY gave girls someone to look up to gives me the impression that they don't actually give a fuck beyond looking to score points.
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I offered to buy my wife's daughter the lightsaber Rey uses, but she wanted Mace Windu's instead.

Should I be worried?
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>>64200238
I always try to be reasonably tough on my nieces and nephews. Such as if they get loads of toys out, I'll not help them tidy up (unless its heavy stuff or whatever), unlike my other family members who will do most of the work.


People tend to think I'm just being a lazy asshole but frankly I think I'm doing them a favour. I want to nurture strength and independence in them so that they aren't coddled for years and then struggle when they are thrown out into the real world.

Man, I can't wait to be a mother.
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>>64199522
They didn't have genders back then, at least not in the modern sense.
And for good reason.
Genders don't exist, they're just elaborate excuses for men to wear dresses.
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It's not like they could've made Rey likable, relatable and marketable without making her a Mary Sue or anything....
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>>64200510
L O N D O N
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>>64200290
indeed. she was a great supporting character. rey is just john cena, without the part where he gets his ass kicked and turns on ssj3 all of da sudden.

Hopefully in EP 8 she eats some humble pie and spends the next hour and twenty doing some actual jedi training.
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>>64200510

L O N D O N
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>>64200546
>>64200595
Close; I'm in Kent
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>>64197681
Where do you live? For all the hate you give millenials there the ones who are gonna change things.
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>>64200484
>wife's daughter
Are you baiting for shitposts anon?
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she's right.
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>>64199795
muslim/10
Lucas was ahead of his time
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>>64200741
implying the clothe isnt paper thin and lucas hides the original cut because its porn.
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>>64197477
I hate kids
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>>64197477

Ha awesome, well said.
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>>64197477
Right.

And when all those little girls get trounced by the little boys and come home crying, then who's to blame?
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>>64200802

That's when they start their campaigns against "male on female school bullying"
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>>64197477
Oh it's a Star Wars thread.
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>>64200872
Oh it's a 7
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>>64200827
>media encourages girls to be manly
>girls try to be manly
>boys knock them on their ass
>girls go home crying
>media runs stories about new boys bullying epidemic of girls

Sounds about right.

The way I figure it, let the little girls learn the hard way, same as boys.
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>>64197477
>If you guys ever end up having daughters you will understand.

Why the fuck would I encourage my daughter to be "manly" instead of feminine? So she can get her ass kicked when she tries to challenge some dude?
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>>64197477

>bad fan

When corporatism is so engrained in your brain that criticising anything is a sin against kike media.
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I... don't get it.

Do little girls getting lightsabers for Christmas make her not a Mary Sue? Or what? I'm confused.
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>>64197477
what are they going to do when the new Tomb Raider movie comes out and kids start asking for guns?
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>>64201959
so you can fool yourself into thinking she wont immediately get used by some chad once puberty hits.
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>>64197477
>She
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>>64197507
be happy to
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>>64198791
a criminally overlooked post
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>>64200134
>I can tell you now that no one will jerk it to Rey
You underestimate my power
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>>64202570
I don't think the Jedi council would approve of this
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>>64197477
There is nothing wrong with a strong female character but in order to really appreciate victories every one must fail at something. They should have made her strong in the force and tied that into her being good with machines somehow. The knowledge is some sort of intuitive feeling she gets from them but have her suck at llightsaber duels. Get her ass kicked by Kylo Ren and the whole time he is trying to corrupt her to the darkside like Luke/Vader. He grows more frustrated throughout and the only thing that keeps him from killing her is the splitting of the planet.
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>>64202821
>pick the most flawed and troubled heros in fiction
>say they are the same as Rey
lmao
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>>64198248
Anakin was a Mary Sue and you didn't bitch then. People can see you hate women since you bring it up now
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>>64197477
>femlogic
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>>64202821
Neo and Harry Potter I can kind of agree with but Luke suffered and worked through out the movies. Only in 6 Jedi did he go all Mary Sue imo and that whole movie is a mess compared to the other two.
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>>64202821
>Neo
>Useless for all but 5 minutes of 1 film
>LITERAL training scenes of a BLACK man defeating him
>Accelerated training and still useless

>Harry
>Worse than nearly all of his friends at everything except being a shithead that gets into trouble
>Only good at flying on a piece of wood

>Rey is the best at everything immediately with 0 prior training


Epig
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must be why the audience is 70 percent male with an average age of 34
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>>64202963

No he wasn't

he was missing 3 limbs by the end of his story in the PT
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>>64202821
I am so fucking triggered right now desu senpai
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>>64203034

>Neo
>needs a mentor to hammer reality into him and give him heavy training to finally realize his potential
>still gets help from his friends in accomplishing his tasks

>Harry
>basically a pawn and always relying on his friends to bail him out and other characters giving him tools to get by and progress

Not tautological at all
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>>64203034
its got to be a joke he gets blown the fuck out in that scene.
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>>64203043
In the end though both of them became the hero simply because of being the chosen one and not because of their training.
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>>64197477
its going to be another harry potter broom situation were kids will use it to get off
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>>64197477
How does an argument on twitter effect a little girl that likes star wars?
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>>64202821
this is why I have embraced sexism. there does not seem to be a down side in being a sexist while proving that you are not sexist is too much work.
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>>64200510
LONDON!
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I guess little girls will grow up expecting men to do anything they say because of the force lololol
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>>64203130

They wouldn't have gotten there without their training

Why are you incapable of nuance
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>>64203034
Neo was literally Jesus and even then he could not solve all the problems, had to sacrifice Trinity and himself to save humanity.

Harry was an average teenager, not even good at his studies. His only talent was casting defensive spells. Was also a beta, couldn't get the girl he wanted and settled with one who fell in love with his fame.

Both were in no way close to a Gary tsu.
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>>64202821

Bullshit. Harry constantly had to rely on other people to get bailed out of situations. The only time he even took charge and of a situation was in the last few books.

Neo's first action scene results in his failure and capture. Neo is saved by both Morpheus, Trinity, and Tank. Neo gets his ass kicked by Smith and is only able to overcome him with the power of Trinity's love/faith.

How are people this fucking stupid.
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Is this Mary Sue shit the Gamergate of /tv/?
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>>64202821
Why did you post this image anon?

You are causing me pain
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>>64203218

I'm getting there, man. I'm getting there.

>tfw real world experience dashes all idealistic notions of utopia and equality you had as a kid
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>>64203294
Not until you get mass censored.
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>>64203130
>Neo has years of training condensed into seconds to put him on an equal playing field and he's still weaker
>His ability to win is explained in its own nuanced way of being able to read the matrix
>Harry has 8 years of training
>Still only able to beat a single particular wizard in a duel because of a connection they have
>Not able to do anything without friends

You're a meme, fuck off.
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>>64197477
>girls like Star Wars
when will this meme end?
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>>64203349
More than 50% of movie watchers are women.

Your boy's club ends today, manchild.
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>>64202821
Harry Potter would not even have been a thing if it wasn't for Hermione. The one who figured LITERALLY everything out that moved the plot along and saved his stupid ass constantly.

How the fuck do you get Mary Sue from that?
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>>64203349
I've only met a few girls that actually grew up with and liked it

However I've met a lot that are like "uh duh i love star wars im such a nerd! darth maul is the coolest!!"
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>>64198267
She literally strangled the biggest fattest blob of misogynistic shitlordery in the galaxy to death. And befriended the Ewoks, which allowed the Rebels to take down the shield generator.

She was just as heroic as Han was.
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>>64203385
>Men are the minority

So why is Rey heralded as a symbol of female power? Where is our male power image in the latest Star Wars to rid us of the nasty fee fee's caused by the terrible strong women? We're in the minority, we need help!
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>>64203385
>More than 50% of movie watchers are women.
More than 50% of gamers are women.
I'm so happy these misogynist shitlords are finally having their shitty boys only club torn down! WOMEN AND JUSTICE WARRIORS UNITE!!!
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>>64198551
?>Mom made me dress up like this to win a fight with boys on the internet.
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>>64203422

Harry = spirit
Hermione = mind
Ron = chaos factor

it was pretty clearly spelled out book to book
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>>64203422
tell that to her face then
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Why do you guys even give a fuck it's a kid's movie
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>>64203455
>>64203468
>We're in the minority, we need help!

We'll call it even after several thousand years of matriarchal society. Only then will things be squaresy.
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>>64203474
>mom made me dress up like this to get upboats on reddit/instagram/facebook
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>>64203440
implying 3p0 didnt save everyone from the ewoks and use them to save the galaxy.
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>>64203483
Ron was superfluous honestly.
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>>64200675
>For all the hate you give millenials
You do realize that millennials are fucking shit, right?
They complain about how their parents had it better at the same age, but refuse to work in mass to change anything about it.

Millennials are worse then Baby Boomers for the sheer fact that, while Baby Boomers are blood sucking parasites attached to the underbelly of society, Millennials are blood sucking parasites who are dying because all the good blood sucking spots were taken before they were born.
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>>64203252
>>64203253

Even with Neos training he was no match for Smith only when his god mode activated was he able to do anything.

Harry is still only who he is because he was the boy that lived. One of a few people to directly tell the sorting hat which house he wanted to be. Took to the wizarding world and casting spells pretty easily given he had no prior knowledge of it at all. He was not as smart as other characters but it still seemed to just come naturally.

I don't think either of them are nearly as bad as Rey and can concede that both rely on others but still to me they are Mary Sues.
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>>64203555
>but still to me they are Mary Sues.

But, you just admitted they don't fit the textbook definition of a Mary Sue. You're a fucking retard.
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>>64203301
>grew up believing in equality and that everyone
>realize about 90% of the women I've met are stupid
>the only black kids that went to my school got arrested for trying to rob a gas station
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>>64203332
>Still only able to beat a single particular wizard in a duel because of a connection they have
and a contrivance with wands.
>Neo has
his years of hacking. + he died for good
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>>64197477
>it's only okay if the Mary Sue is from Star Wars
but how about Fatniss, Skye (aka Mary Fucking Sue Poots) or the one true underrated Mary Sue of them all: Alice Abernathy?
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>>64203555
No they're not. Not even Hermione was a Mary Sue.
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>>64203555

they aren't Mary Sues, they're just key protagonists
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>>64203385
Wasn't there a big thread recently about how the majority of Force Awakens ticket purchases were from 34 year old men?
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>>64203521
that kind of thinking needs to die.
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>>64203555
>One of a few people to directly tell the sorting hat which house he wanted to be.
[citation needed]

Even then he didn't know shit about the houses or what they meant. He made that decision based off a flippant comment made by a kid he had known for all of an afternoon train ride.
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>>64203521
>We'll call it even after several thousand years of matriarchal society.
>implying a matriarchal society could last even a year
Someone post the feminist watches Survivor article. And the one with the woman who started a business with only female employees.
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>>64203691
The fact the person you replied to didn't think past the words they typed to even realise this hurts me.
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>>64203521

You won't even get a hundred as the other, stronger patriarchal society will invade and dominate

and you know who those guys are

patriarchy is the most effective mode of rule for the human species as it stands
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>>64203253
harry wasnt an average teenager, he was an orphan and was neglected by his foster parents. He grew up in a fucking cupboard under the stairs. Its not somethign the average person can relate to.

The same can be said for rey, she was abandond on the middle of butfuck nowhere as a child. Its not an origin that people can relate to.
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>>64203649
>Gets her ass kicked constantly
>Gets her powers stolen
>Gets everyone she knows killed
How is she a Mary Sue?
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>>64203730
>>64203686
>>64203717
Madame President Hillary will have camps for your kind.
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>>64203649

or Ripley from Alien

>now we're just tossing main characters around and calling them Mary Sues for no reason other than their gender

too can play this insipid game
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>>64203773
>there's someone somewhere who actually thinks Hilary even has a chance
What, like with a cloth? Please..
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Women should be mothers, not Jedi Knights
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>>64197696
butStar Wars is a kids movie, it's okay to give kids superheroes. it's cruel to force a bunch of doubt and uncertainty on them. kids shouldnt have to worry about their "faves" being "problematic"
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>never mind bad acting and storytelling, think of the children!

appeal to emotion at it's finest
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SJWs are just going to muddy the definition of Mary Sue until it doesn't mean anything any more. That's their tactic and its working like a charm.
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>>64203619
>all the women I know are sexist and mean.+ they always expect me to act old fashioned.
all the tv propaganda has ruined my social skills.
>we are in fucking university and they openly gossip and call other kids fat pigs,etc
>out of all my group assignment no woman has ever contributed a page of work
most had their bf do it or delayed to the last day so we would take over and do it.they do want the credit, one even had a photographer come in and take some shots with the paperwork for her portfolio.I have also seen some idiot men but at least there is no pretence with them.
>only black people and hindus I see are on the bus rides (I think they go to the medical uni) so I cant really say anything about them.
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>>64198791
underwater toast
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>>64197477
>there are 15 little girls brainwashed into buying cheap, plastic Chinese made toys who will become greasy anti-social nerds editing wookiepedia someday
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She's not wrong you know. It's about time little girls had female heroes with male traits to look up so they will feel the need to live up to the unrealistic and distinctly male expectations set by them. If you guys ever end up having daughters you will understand.
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>>64197477

That thing is a man.
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>>64203673
so what? once men are brainwashed enough they will doom themselves and eat whatever is being sold to them. like a pussy whipped husband - all the marital privileges
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>>64197477
>Criticising the movie makes you a bad fan
That's Reddit for you
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>>64203876
>tfw LotR is still good
Watching TT on TV in an hour, watched Fellowship last night and same as always
>mfw Boromir
>mfw Frodo trying to leave Sam

Shame about the Hobbit flicks though.
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>>64203717
>And the one with the woman who started a business with only female employees.
that one is pure gold but its reposted so often it loses its power. like you only have 1 dingy article to point after so many years. you got to keep it fresh
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>>64204037

I'd be fine with this if I didn't know for a fact that they will continue to blame "partriarchy" and "sexism" for all of their shortcomings and champion domestic violence and rape as the end all be all crises of this country
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>>64198823
>Not lifting & juicing
>Not carrying a sword at all times
What are you, some kind of faggot?
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I really wish we could go back to the days when we'd burn losers like these.
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>>64203737
just because you had a privileged life don't assume we are all like you
>>64203773
Im not sure if I want her to lose as a big fuck you to you or if I want her to win so you can get it out of your system and see her accomplish nothing
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>>64204112
Well that's just the most clear cut one, mostly because it's so in detail and it's even written by the woman who started the company. Obviously using anecdotes, which in this case aren't even really anecdotes when everyone on here can resonate with some of the bits that might get posted, wouldn't go far against the tumblr harpies.
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>>64203755
>Does everything better than the game characters
>Jill: "I'm good, but I'm not THAT good."
>Psychic powers and clone army out of nowhere
>Claire shoots the Executioner, but it doesn't die for good until Alice shoots it with an identical weapon
>Even after her powers are stolen, she's still pulling off blatantly superhuman shit

Not sure how I feel about Rey in Star Wars, but at the very least she'll never be accused of being a bigger Sue than Alice "has to be perfect because she's played by the director's wife" Abernathy
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>>64203855
harry potter was a kids movie too but then they put rape drinks,goat fucking and other british shit.
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>>64197477
I dress up my wife's daughter all the time.
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>>64204037
those girls often end up with a half shaved head and running topless in the streets
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>>64204169
I too wish I could be violent without consequences
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>>64204265
>implying its not your husband's daughter
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>>64202821
>Neo
>fails his first jump just like everyone else despite bring "the One"
>gets overconfident and tries to fight smith despite being told that everyone else who has ever stood their ground against an agent has died. Promptly dies.
>only through the power of trinity's love does he realise he's the one, mind refuses to accept his death and he goes super saiyan ten minutes before the movie ends

>Luke
>trained by two (2) Jedi masters
>tries to fight a sith before he's ready, gets blown the fuck out and loses a hand
>takes three (3) movies to come into his own as a force user and lightsaber duelist

Havnt seen Harry Potter so can't comment.

Rey is a Mary Sue feminists. Deal with it.
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Girls don't like Star Wars.
They never have and they never will.
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Maybe if women want more female protagonists they could try actually creating a franchise for themselves, instead of waiting for men to build everything up and then demanding change.

Too much work?
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>little girls like poorly written movie that aims to maximize profits and thus sorta panders to kids
>therefore Rey isn't a Mary Sue
How does that make sense?
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>>64204388
Yeah, Harry Potter is a little bitch throughout the movies and has his ass handed to him many times and requires help from... well everyone. He isn't a mary sue either, just a bitch.
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>>64202821
>le nerd pic
>edgy Twitter name
>posting a quote she obviously saw somewhere else
>using a meme image maker
>feminist speech

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA silly fat bitch
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>>64204481
everyone wants his dick in the 7th book.
>>64204474
sometimes buzz words can mask lack of logic
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>>64200510
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>>64203294
I like how #GG scandal refers to gamers being shitlords and nothing else. Just an unprovoked and relentless psychological and cybernetic rape of a brave woman who fought for her place in a thankless, partriarchal industry. Truly, her struggles reflect those of all women.
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>>64200134
>I can tell you now that no one will jerk it to Rey
Have you ever seen something this incorrect on /tv/ bros?
I mean seriously this is a pretty bold statement.
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I can see what she's saying but you but this is also like saying that about Steven Universe where fat kids wanting to dress up as Steven because he's fat too.
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>>64197477
I just realized all these feminists saying she isn't a Mary Sue only say that because they haven't seen star wars before. They don't realize how fucking unusual and stupid it is that she immediately could over power a trained dark side user with mind reading AND saber combat. She also overpowered him with the force pull when retrieving the saber from the ground. She also magically knew how to command a trooper to release her. She is wayyyyy to good of a force user considering she is untrained, but feminists don't know this, because they don't like/watch star wars.
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i'm a leftist and its good that feminism is being used to sell toys if it makes men online mad
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>>64207054
Maybe she's not that good. Maybe her adversary is just incompetent, despite his supposed training.
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>we need to sacrifice good storytelling for the sake of socio-political reasons
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>>64197477
Women exist to give birth to men and serve them.

I learned this when I visited family in the Netherlands. I offered to get coffee for my female cousin and my aunt bitched me out for offering and my cousin for accepting.
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>>64207129

>I'm a leftist
>Endorses capitalism straight off the bat

lel kill yourself kiddo
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>>64207185
>one bad character
>bad storytelling

The point is that Rey being a mediocre character does not ruin the whole movie.
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>>64197477
Honestly, isn't this something that feminism actually takes issue with? Superwoman syndrome or whatever? That instead of being useless little damsel in distress, the character is instead some flat, can do everything for no reason wonder woman, that noone can actually relate to? I'm not making this up.

Whatever, I actually liked Rey
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>>64207261

I'm talking about what the woman in OP's post is asking for
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>>64207222
>Europe

There's your problem lmao
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>>64200343
WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THOSE STORM TROOPERS
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>>64207224

American "leftists" are all still very capitalistic.
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>>64197477

Eh, if all it takes is a character like Rey now and then to be like female Rambo for young girls so they all don't become whores or bitchy SJWs then it's probably worth it.
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>>64200343

That scene isn't artistic mastery, it's just how people filmed movies in the 70s.
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>>64198791
UNDERRATED POST RIGHT HERE
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>>64197477
Sweet. This is my most popular post ever on 4chan. You know I was trolling though right, cause I think this womans a cunt and what shes saying is dog shit.
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>>64208084
implying star wars marketers didnt troll you into thinking they care.
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>>64208084
Congratulations on doing it for free.
>>64208445
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>>64198791

Mine fantasizes about being a surgeon in Area 51(?) making friends with recovering alien pilots before being rewarded with a tour of the stars and secrets of the universe.
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