How is this not the greatest show of our generation?
The characters, set pieces, literary/cultural references. Some episodes are straight up stand alone masterpieces aka Signal 30, The Suitcase, etc..
At the same time Weiner has balls and is willing to take risks with episodes like The Crash where everyone is strung out on meth. Ridiculous.
How can anyone even pretend that pleb-tier Breaking Bad is on the same level? I forced myself to watch that godawful piece of shit. No character development other than WALTER WHITE IS HEISENBERG LEL HES SO EFIL. Skyler is a dumb cunt and has no redeeming qualities the entire series, his sons just a dumb cripple who can't fucking act. The entire show caters to the LCD of human intelligence by being entirely plot driven.
I honestly use whether people prefer Breaking Bad as a barometer for autism.
Breaking Bad was mediocre and so was this show. It's dull and the characters are boring, people just over-analyze it and see all kinds of subtle things that just aren't there. People do the same shit with a lot of shows I guess but never has there been more pretentious fanboys than those of mad men. They are like children who just found "adult television" and want to let everyone know how mature and grown up they are because they watch a mediocre and rather boring tv-show.
>WALTER WHITE IS HEISENBERG LEL HES SO EFIL
Mad men could be greentexted in a similar manner: >DON DRAPER IS SO LE ALPHA LOL EPIC 50'S HAHA THEY DRINK AND SMOKE AND SMOKE LOOOL HE THREW THE GARBAGE TO NATURE AHAHA LOL BLACKS AND GAYS ARENT TREATED WELL LOL DID I ALREADY MAKE SURE TO TELL YOU WE ARE IN THE 50S NOW
The Wire.
>>64189944
I bet you watch anime.
what exactly is a 'set piece'?
>>64189944
did you watch past the first season? This characterization is so childish and shallow you're either a retard or didn't watch past the first season.
I'll admit the first season had a little bit too many 'WE 50S NOW BOY' but the way the show progresses through the era from S1 to ending is handled very well.
The whole character of Don Draper is an illusion. The reason he acts like that is because, well, its all an act. He's Dick Whitman, he stole Don Draper's name and he's insecure and paranoid about people finding out who he really is the entire show. I suggest you rewatch the Season Finale when he calls Peggy. 'I scandalized my daughter, stole a mans name and made mothing from it... [sic]'
Did we watch the same show?
>>64189480
I hope you're aware nobody who didn't watch it knows what the fuck are you talking about and which show is it.
I also don't intend to go an image search just because of your stupidity
>>64189944
You've been on /tv/ too long faggot. Kill yourself
>>64189944
also for me the most compelling character is Pte Campbell. Everyone wants to be a Don draper but they are more likely a Pete Campbell, a small man who desperately wants to be seen as Don Draper but will never be seen as one.
Because Generation Kill exists.
>>64189480
This is
>>64190008
Before our generation, and it would be Sopranos anyway
Only anime has a chance of being the best television show of of all time.
Seriously.
Because they know how to end a show after the story is done rather than cashing in for years.
>>64190296
>>Before our generation,
Not everyone is underage, I watched Sopraturd when it aired
>S1
Terrible
>S2
middling
>S3
decent
>S4
good
>S5
decent
>S6
lol david is a fucking hack
>>64189480
all this american middle class who loves MM only because it is the first time that they see tailored suits....
Don Draper is a stupid baby who has never reflected upon his life.
this is why he has some difficulties to write whatever stuff Roger ordered him to write. This is why he asks Peggy about her dreams, which are pitiful to whomever has stepped back a little from any social alienation to think a few minutes on their existences.
but no, Don is the cliché of the 40 something who never took 5 minutes to do this basic task.
And if he did, there would be no tv show dragged over 8 fucking years over hot air...
Mad men is a show about some stupid adolescent in a body of a 40 yo man (supposedly) handsome (to insert the cliché of vapid sex) who prefers to hang on to a retarded past due to a lack of reflection. Literally, the writers have cherry pick a phony situation to avoid any thinking and creativity.
>>64190320
Made me reply, 6/10, would shit all over you again
>>64190320
lmao you actually think this
>>64190345
>tfw some redditor gets cunty
>>64190352
Pretty much sums up why MM is bad show. Not better than any other soap opera like Days of Our Lives or Bold and the Beautiful.
What do you think about Sopranos anon? or Generation Kill?
>>64190256
>Because Generation Kill exists.
'dis
>>64190352
You clearly haven't seen the whole show or read >>64190056 this post. You are wrong btw senpai.
>>64190359
How's your 5 seasons after jumping the shark going for you?
>>64190352
>Don Draper is a stupid baby who has never reflected upon his life.
Do you judge shows by their trailers?
>>64190428
>he doesn't know what Danger Close means.
I agree it is superior but it tried something else than MM and only had 6 (?) episode.
>>64190492
What it tried and accomplished to do it did it with such quality and in such good pacing that it is by far the better performer of the 2 TV-shows.
>>64190352
This is not true.
A big part of his character is his desire to "put the past behind him" "forget it ever happened and move forward. It will shock you how much this never happened"
There is a difference between a lack of self reflection and distancing yourself form your past as the deserting name stealing son of a whore by "forgetting" about it (note: he does not forget about it and it haunts him every day)
This mindset is brought to a poignant conclusion when he attempts to sell it to his "niece" when she abandons her child in the series finale. She promptly replies "Oh dick, I don't think you're right about that"
Cue the final twenty minutes of fridge man's speech and his meditation when he finally comes to terms with his past and present after a LIFETIME of self reflection.
>>64190352
The show helped many people realize that THEY are stupid adolescents in the body of a 40 year old who prefer to hang on to their past due to lack of reflection.
I don't see why it would mean jack shit to a 16yo.
I don't understand why people think that everything they watch should apply to them.
>>64190532
As I said I agree it is superior. I actually finally got the book for Christmas and need to get the Blu Rays someday. There is so much great shit going on there.
>mfw constantly quoting Generation Kill but only one of my friends has seen it and gets the reference
>>64190620
You should get One Bullet Away, written by Nathaniel Fick. He was in the troop Generation Kill is about
>>64190671
>One Bullet Away
Thanks. Added to my long ass wish list.
>>64189480
Who the fuck cares about advertising?
>>64189480
>How is this not the greatest show of our generation?
it is, though.
>>64189944
shouting "LOL XD" over and over as to prove a point just makes you look like an imbecile.
>>64189480
Only actual plebeians think Mad Men is GOAT tier. Also, true patricians know Friday Night Lights is the greatest drama of our generation.
>>64189480
Dear basedgod this show was repetitive trash after Don and Joan joined as partners.
LITERALLY NOTHING HAPPENED.
And Megan didn't give a shit about Dons adultery.
LITERALLY POINTLESS.
What was Megan even on the show for?
At least Betty had some balls.
Peggy used to be interesting but then just displayed one emotion for like 3 entire seasons.
I'm not old enough to remember (or even care) about that Coke ad everyone talks about so the Finale was also boring as shit to me (I'm 26).
The ONLY thing that kept me interested was the cheating and sex and hot women.
Once those became dull, that was it for me.
I still canr believe I watched every single damn boring as fuck episode though.
What a fucking waste of my time that I couldve spent 'bating.
>>64190134
the thing is that Pete eventually became a Don Draper while we found out that Don had been a Pete Campbell this whole time.
>>64191272
im floored that this isn't bait and that there are 15 year olds posting shit like this here
might be time for me to leave /tv/
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>>64190352
> (supposedly) handsome
nigga you gay look at this masterpiece of a man
>>64189944
Confirmed for literally never watched the show
>>64191272
>he watched Mad Men for the plot
wow, how the fuck did you endure seven seasons watching just for plot? It must have been hella boring for an underage pleb like you
>>64189480
Because The Sopranos exists
>>64191172
This. Mad Men is a pleb show masquerading as a patrician show. It's the kind of show plebeians watch to try and convince themselves and others they're patricians. FNL, on the other hand, is as patrician as TV gets. IMDb fags hated it when it came out, and it was too subtle and "le slow" for the general plebeian audience. And notice how it's hardly ever talked about on /tv/. Much too patrician for these redditors.
>>64191543
and it's still 2006 right?
>>64191278
Kind of, he got what don always wanted by having (the promise of) a happy family life in Kansas with Trudy, but the difference is he was able to bring his last with him rather than having to create a new identity to be happy. He learned from his mistakes and matured from it by accepting that adultery/alpha male lifestyle isn't ultimately fulfilling.
>>64191589
I just can't watch FNL because I am 120% sure it is about white middle class people driving around in 80k cars having 'high school issues' while the actors are all +30 during filming
>>64191792
stop replying to obvious bait
Game of Thrones no doubt about it
>>64191948
Jesus fuck that looks like extremely shitty CGI (the people)
couldn't they just get few hundred extras or soemthing
oh look soapfags damage control thread
>>64189480
That isn't Fargo.
Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones and the Wire are better
>>64191480
m8 there are people who watched The Sopranos for the action.
Never underestimate plebs.
>>64192146
>liking breaking bad
>>64192372
>liking Game of Badpussy
>>64192372
>not calling out Game of Reddit and Libcuck Fantasies: The Series
LMAO
>>64191792
You couldn't be more wrong. The characters in the show are portrayed as appropriately lower and middle-class. The cars they drive are almost always beat up and old. One of the poorer characters is even shown shopping for date clothes at the Salvation Army.
>>64191819
Plebeian Mad Men fan spotted.
>>64192547
Are the actors acting high schoolers hitting up 30 years
>>64192578
The youngest actor who played a teenager on the show was 17 (Julie Taylor). The oldest was 25 (Tim Riggins). But that's the dumbest thing to complain about.
>>64191272
>watched show for cheating and sex and hot women
>wasted time I could have been 'bating
>being this much of a fucking monkey
>>64192701
>dumbest thing
Dont you know `how fucking grating it is to see bad fucking casting?
>>64192765
Well, then this show shouldn't bother you, seeing as how the acting is incredible on all levels.
>>64191172
I can't stomach Friday Night Lights because of all the idiots on SB Nation who love it.
>>64192820
Bad casting involves mismatching ages.
Every high school drama has people nearly decade older acting high schoolers
>>64191172
there was also that time Jon Hamm got absolutely btfo by based Coach Taylor at the emmys
>>64192985
Who gives a shit when the actor can act? That's literally a plebeian complaint.
>>64193072
>Believing in the emmys
well, seems like we don't need any more confirmation
>All TV shows are a bore from both a cinematic and formal perspective. There is no room for experimentation.
>All TV shows have the same sense of time and continuity.
>All TV shows have the appeal of being in the moment, they're treated as an event unfolding before the audience's eyes.
>All TV shows basically serve as watercooler moments.
>All TV shows are only watched to see what happens next, a cheap page-turner.
>All TV shows have the same reliable narrative, everything stated on camera is true because the producers are afraid of making the show difficult for the audiences.
>The writing on TV shows are mediocre in a moment-to-moment basis and only barely work when looking at the large-scale narrative.
>People probably only watch these shows for the ensemble acting.
Why even watch TV?
>>64189480
Person of Interest.
>>64193487
Is this new copypasta? I like it
>>64189480
1st. Hannibal
2nd. Utopia
3rd. Arrested Development
4th. Its Always Sunny
5th. South Park
>>64193094
>>64193487
>everything stated on camera is true because the producers are afraid of making the show difficult for the audiences.
Seems like simple TV-show like Vikings was too difficult for you to decrypt.
That's pretty sad anon
>>64193364
It was the right choice that year. Jon Hamm is a mediocre actor.
>>64193621
>Emmys
>making the right choice
>Jon Hamm
>mediocre actor
I don't even know why I keep replying to you bu8t it seems that you are in desperate need of (You)s
>>64190352
>>64190398
>>64190444
>>64190471
>>64190557
>>64190586
>>64191358
>responding to pasta
Jesus, /tv/
>>64193621
That year was literally the best season of Mad Men in terms of Don's acting. They gave it to Chandler because FNL ended and he hadn't won one yet, and then when Mad Men ended they gave one to Hamm because Hamm hadn't won one yet.
It's like poetry. IT RHYMES.
>>64193487
this to be honest familia
>>64189944
edge
You need to stop pontificating about a soap opera, OP.
Honestly even Mildred Pierce did a better job at being a period piece than Mad Men.
Duck Phillips' drunk scene about Pete winning the world series was GOAT
>>64189480
If by "greatest show of our generation", you mean the post-Wire and Sopranos generation, then yes I fully agree and have been saying this for years. Breaking Bad is the only thing that comes close but it's not on the same level.
Mad Men is GOAT tier
>>64189480
>watching Jewish anti-white propaganda
No thanks
>>64189480
I really liked Mad Men but the last episode felt kind of empty.
>>64194844
The works of Dostoevsky and Tolstoy are also soap operas.
>>64195893
Tolstoy literature can't be compared to mediocre small screen scripts
>>64195372
Haven't watched Mad Men, so I'm curious.
How is it anti-white propaganda?
>Skyler is a dumb cunt
In what way? She was completely a victim, it wasn't her fault at all and she acted in a completely rational way.
Breaking Bad is mediocre. Just about as mediocre as it gets. And Mad Men is my second favourite show, right after The Wire. But your post is just mindles, childish lashing out for no reason.
>>64193487
Who cares
If Breaking Bad was made well enough to make me want to tune in and invite my friends over for the season premier it's damn good, god damn it
I don't give a shit about the dramas on ABC or the CW because they fucking suck, Breaking Bad drew you in and it was fucking awesome
Fuck your pretentious bullshit, sorry for enjoying enteetaining things instead of sitting theough pretentious arthouse bullshit
>>64190320
OK pal that was hilarious. Now what's your real opinion?
>>64197462
Anti-intellectualism at its finest. If I could get rid of every anti-art poster on this board, I would.
>>64193737
>Stop not liking what I like
No, go kill yourself faggot.
>>64189480
if you prefer the Wire to Mad Men
you need to go back to reddit
>>64198998
who are you quoting, mate?
I just pointed out the fact that it's pasta.
>>64189480
>muh women were oppressed
>much blacks were opressed
Literally tumblr the show.
If you think that the show is historically accurate, you're brainwashed to the point of no return.
Also, it's boring - most of the time it's pointeless chit-chat and you really don't care for any of the characters
Didn't make it past the 1st season.
i don't hate BB, but i 100% agree Mad Men is the best.
i can see how it's not for everyone, though.
Breaking Bad had some awesome characters in it.
Mad Men was boring.
step outta the way plebs
the real patrician show has arrived
>>64189480
I don't understand Mad Men fans. I'm a fan but the show is deeply flawed on so many levels. I've never seen any intelligent argument for why it is the best. Anytime I present my issues with the show people just ignore the post and the thread dies. Also, it's impossible to have a serious discussion of the best show on television here. In some senses Game of Thrones does things better than any show on television but shake my head to be honest family normies love it so it's absolute shit. Not saying GoT is the best, I don't know what is the best. I just know Mad Men is not the high art everyone makes it out to be. The characterization is fucking terrible (except for Pete as someone else already mentioned). Thematically it is incoherent. Hackneyed drug episodes. Repetitive story arcs. Terrible corny wonder years tier period fiction. The list goes on.
>>64200940
literally nobody gives a shit
>>64197462
Low iq plebeian detected breaking bad "drew you in" with the same skill as a loud autistic toddler drawing with crayons
>>64201022
>characterization is terrible
Why? I find all the characters have some level of depth. Peggy, Ginsberg, Stan, Betty, Don, roger, all solid characters.
> thematically is very incoherent
I don't feel that. I think each season explored a certain set of themes solidly but I'm not going to go into it. You should rewatch
> repetitive story arcs
Lolwut. Pls give one example
>>64191948
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