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So we all agree on this, right?
Redditors don't bother to reply
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Basically this

>forces a trilogy into 1 movie
>none of the new characters are even remembered
>horrible acting all around
>A New Hope 2.0
>no one can explain the summary of the movie without sounding retarded
>dark lord is "cut" by a non force user
>dark lord suddenly cannot outmatch someone without any fucking training in the force
>han dies

0/10
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Its fucking dog shit
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>>64188232 (You)
>>64188267 (You)
>>64188333 (You)
>>64188336 (You)

All me btw. I figure if I say it's shit enough times people will stop liking it.
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>>64188368
upvote for you dear redditor friend ;)
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>>64188368
>Doesn't know about unique IP count

>"I came to 4chan to shill Star Wars!"
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>>64188368
>implying

No nigger I made the first response not OP
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>>64188333
this tobehonest faam
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>>64188232

>unironically thinks episode one and two are better than seven

get the fuck out
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>>64188854
The truth.
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Official nonreddit rank:

4>5>6>3>7>2>1
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>>64188232
>Episode 1 was better than 6, 3, and 7
You've fallen into such a hole of contrarianism I don't know if this message will ever reach you. It's like you came out the other side in another universe.
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>>64188739
This.

And don't let the fucking door hit you either.
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>>64188739
they're all bad for different reasons

just watched episode I and I found myself cringing the night away, but VII is pretty cringey too
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Prequels > Clone Wars > EU >>>>> Originals > Force Awakens
Lucas is a genius, Jar Jar is funny and Dark Maul is badass as fuck
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>>64188232

>redditor stars a reddit thread
>doesn't want fellow redditors to reply
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>>64189079
not even trying
2/10
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>>64189079
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>>64188854
Agreed.
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>>64188232
4>5
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>>64188267
>forces one trilogy into a movie.
>is still just A New Hope 2.
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5 = 4 > 6 > > 7 > 1 = 3 > 2


Go watch the fucking prequels again. They're amateur shit shot by a control freak lazy director who never left his chair. Shot with green screen with practically zero actual sets and mostly cgi characters. It's an eyesore, boring to look at due to the student film quality shots and camerawork, awful pacing, wooden acting, retarded dialogue and character motivations, and nonsensical plot.

Have none of you seen these movies since you were a child? I rewatched them all last year and they're fucking garbage. 7 had its fair share of flaws but you're a sick bastard if you think it's worse than attack of the fucking clones. It must be nostalgia. Original trilogy is solid.
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>>64189271
there were a lot of practical sets
but the cgi work was so godawful it's unrecognizable
The rest is correct
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>>64189271

>They're amateur shit shot by a control freak lazy director who never left his chair. Shot with green screen with practically zero actual sets and mostly cgi characters. It's an eyesore, boring to look at due to the student film quality shots and camerawork, awful pacing, wooden acting, retarded dialogue and character motivations, and nonsensical plot.

yeah i watched the plinkett reviews too

just because it has a lot of upvotes doesnt make it true you know
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>>64189331
Nigger
Prove him wrong
Don't start maymaying
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Kylo Ren is the best thing ever created in Star Wars. A character with actual dislikeable flaws paired to traits that show a path towards potential redemption. Everyone else was clearly Good or Bad; Kylo is the only guy with some convincing grey area.

The problem is he's in a horrible movie. TFA is ass.
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>>64189271
7 isn't even that problematic. It's got pottery, just like the prequels, yet somehow that is suddenly a bad thing when it suits them.
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mom I posted it again
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>>64189318
1 had sets sure, but I don't remember anything from 2or 3 that wasn't greenscreened. Lava planet, kamino, Jedi temple, and coruscant were all cgi.

>>64189331
Fuck you I have been angry about the prequels since before YouTube was even invented. Besides nothing I said can't be deduced from watching the making of documentary.

Besides, pointing out that plinkett said it doesn't make any of what i said false. When adults argue they are allowed to reference existing works. If you can make a proper argument against anything plinkett or I said then be my guest.
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>>64189318
>there were a lot of practical sets
Mostly used as reference for the CGI crew, not much of the ended up in the actual movies after Phantom Menace.

>>64189331
Only thing Plinkett did was gather criticisms that had already been laid at the prequels into one entertaining package. His resentment was born out of what most fans of the original trilogy thought about them as they were coming out. I should know, I almost didn't see Revenge of the Sith, I was so angry at Lucas back then.
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V = VI > III > IV > VII > II > I

I liked all of them

Star Wars has always been shit. Some just less shitty than others.
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>>64188232
>1-6
>4 character faces easily seen
>7
10 faces, several having next to use in the plot
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>>64189489
So, you like feces then? Thanks for sharing your sexual fetish with us.
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>>64188854
thats the only correct
the rest is meme
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We've seriously come to a point where underaged children think the prequels are anything but on overbloated mess of garbage acting and story rape, and are old enough to post on /tv/.
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>>64189592

I can enjoy movies that don't aspire to be more than they are, and Star Wars has never presented itself with the grander of a 'Cinematic Work of Art.'

The hyperbole and grandiosity surrounding the franchise comes from the fans who've elevated it to the point of pop cultural icon; this doesn't mean I need to view it through the same lens. It's bad writing, in a universe filled with bland characters, encompassing a story of cheesy melodrama.

What makes it great is the sheer imagination that furnishes the world. The monsters; the ships; the planets; the goofy costumes and weapons. It's a free-for-all assault on the visual imagination, and it's fun to watch. I liked the prequels, not for their writing, but for the elements they added to the overall universe and the visual flair with which they did so. The CGI sucked shit, yeah, but I LIKED Jar Jar's underwater people, the Naboo ships, Obi Wan and Anakin's pursual of the assassin through a highi-flying metropolis, that little flying blue Jew thing, the creepy ass racer whose ass Anakin kicked in pod-racing, I fucking loved pod-racing...

It's always been about the visual spectacle, as whatever artistic merit was potentially present in IV never went anywhere, and was slim to begin with. But the OT (even the prequels) were earnest in their desire to provide an adventure, and I enjoyed them for it.
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>>64189663
Can you blame them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4TX6x2WLgk
That kid has now grown up and is taking revenge.
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nope

5 is reddit wank
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>>64188232
No, it's

5 > 4 > 6 > 7 > 1 > 3 > 2
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>>64189745
Ok, then why not just say that at the beginning instead of comparing them to fecal matter?
Unless you see a "visual spectacle" full of "sheer imagination that furnishes the world" every time you look at your turds, your original analogy is, well, shit.
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Empire>New Hope>Return>Awakens>Parts of Revenge>Revenge as a whole>Phantom Menace>Attack
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>>64189190
it's not a contradiction. it did a half-assed job of being both those things at once.
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>>64189798
>tfw no robo-dog companion that will follow your footsteps no matter how hard life gets
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>>64189816

My turds are beautiful and I'm sorry yours look like shit.
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>>64188739
top of the morning m'reddit
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>>64189862
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>>64189745
>What makes it great is the sheer imagination that furnishes the world

It's a shame VII lacks this. I think that's its greatest failing.

TIE's are just recoloured, X-wings are just a rehash of the original concept art. The starkiller is a caricature of the death star concept, and the carved out belt would mean moving more material than a dozen death stars are made of. The nazi imagry of the empire went from barely subtle to blatant.
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>>64188739

I think it depends on what people are looking for. I and II, despite flaws, still had their own self-contained plots and added enough to the universe that felt new and previously unseen.

No one seems to be attacking Abrams for his directing competency, or the dialogue, but for the lack of anything NEW appearing in this movie. In a series famous for its imagination, a big letdown, I think, is witnessing the absence of anything which pushes the universe forward. Rather, we get an action adventure in space, calling itself Star Wars, but without any of the discovery or wonder that make Star Wars so unique.

With a series this huge you're going to have multiple audiences with varying degrees of interest.

The movie was a bit of a bore, for me; non-stop action involving characters who had little time to develop, thus removing me from any conflict or tension I might have felt on behalf of them. It was a special effects reel without any of the new sights that made the boring special effects reel of the prequels at least nice to look at.

That said, Kylo Ren is GOAT. Star Wars accidentally made a compelling character.
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>>64190027
>That said, Kylo Ren is GOAT. Star Wars accidentally made a compelling character.

This
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>>64189745
This fucking guy gets it.

Besides the shit stain that was TPM, I think the prequels were the best thing to happen to Star Wars. It gave us the Clone Wars and the Grand Army of the Republic, the 501st Legion, and gave so much added lore to the artillery, armored vehicles and regiments/ranks in the Star Wars universe.

And I'm fucking glad Mr. Plinshit wasn't behind the making of the prequels either. He wanted the turn the clone wars into a 20 minute section where people fight Uruk-hai Orcs. He also wants to scrap Coruscant all together.

Original trilogy had the better story, the prequels made the Star Wars setting even better.
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>>64188991
hello fellow redditor!
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>>64188232
I feel like you're trying to be the next abatap.

You're no abatap.

You lack conviction and follow through.
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I'm a redditor
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>>64190366
The movies were just bad. Most people dont care about the clone wars and all those shitty cartoon spinoffs.
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>>64190485
Fuck off fatso
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>>64190366
That's like saying you're glad you got cancer because you always wanted to see the inside of a cancer ward.
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>Phantom Menace is good.

Garbage meme.
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>>64190504
Hola reddit
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>>64190566

It had good parts.

Pod Racing
Maul fight (I liked the assassination attempt in the desert, too; more velocity to that scene)
Giant fish (I liked it, anyway)
Qui-Gon trying to use his jedi mind tricks and the flying Jew thing laughing in his face
The cool Naboo ships and monsters
The Asian frog politicians

It was a political story rather than the straight up adventure romp people wanted. It was slower due to this--had Lucas allowed actual writers to provide the dialogue it might have been salvageable.
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>>64190559
/v/ and /tv/ loves to spew some of the most retarded analogies possible and they don't seem look back and read over their retarded logic.

Its like that other guy who defended the removal of the "return policy" in steam to used condoms.

Hello Reddit.
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>>64190641

>Assassination attempt in the desert

To follow through, here's the clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMylmOlot4g

And here's a Youtube comment that provides greater insight into the depths of contention between Qui Gon and Maul than any other critic could ever hope to perceive.

>Yo Qui-Gon and darth maul had the realest beef ever no words that shit was just on sight, that nigga ghost ride his bike into a mountain and started throwing down
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>>64188854

This so much.
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JUST TURN OFF YOUR BRAIN BRO
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I know i guy who knew a guy who is an acquaintance of a guy who once met a guy who walked in on a guy who was skyping with a guy who once heard of a guy who was the brother of a guy who was a redditor.

Does that make me a redditor?
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>>64190698

>Yo Qui-Gon and darth maul had the realest beef ever no words that shit was just on sight, that nigga ghost ride his bike into a mountain and started throwing down

this is on reddit. you're a redditor.
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>>64188232
Reminder that the Broadcast Film Critics Association bent the rules (for the first time since Cast Away was allowed on the BP slot in 2000 despite screening late) so that Star Wars could be the eleventh film on the list.

Film critics actually think this movie is so deserving of a Best Picture nomination they disregarded protocol to have it nominated.

Is film criticism dead bros?
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>/v/ meme
>Redditors don't bother to reply

Kill yourself you worthless /v/edditor
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>>64190896
Yes, you are one of them gobble gobble
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>>64193886
thanks senpai, official tier list coming through
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>>64190643
I always look forward to a good retarded analogy
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>>64193959
nah take a look at this
this the offical
>>64188854
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>>64194011
dumb frogposter
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>>64188934
Agreed
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>>64193959
Ya pretty much these
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Is there any criticism toward the prequels that doesn't apply to the OT?
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>>64194085
that was originally mine

I changed my opinion to a slight higher opinion of TFA after remembering it could be redeemed by 8 and 9
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>manchildren enjoying movies for children
quelle surprise
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>>64194126
The PT and the OT don't have anything in common
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>>64189925
>someone has different opinion
>calls them reddit
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>>64190366
>It gave us the Clone Wars and the Grand Army of the Republic, the 501st Legion, and gave so much added lore to the artillery, armored vehicles and regiments/ranks in the Star Wars universe.

And all of it was fucking trash. Clone Wars were fucking horrible. Just because they made a good game out of this shit doesn't mean that the entire concept is good. It's fucking retarded.

Republic using AN ARMY OF CLONES THEY KNOW WAS MADE BY BAD GUYS. And they DO IT FOR YEARS.

It's fucking looney tunes.

And the entire concept of Jedi being some emotionless sexless monks was fucking retarded. They are a bunch of retards too.
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>new movie is shit meme
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>>64194208
Such as
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>>64194217
Nothing offends a redditor more than belling called reddit.

You can call him anything, any insult, but if you call him reddit he will shriek and throw a hissy fit. He's been found out and he hates it, he doesn't even understand how it happened, he tried to fit in but failed.

The redditor is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a liberal, memer, SJW, faggot, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him reddit and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
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>>64194794
The PT disregards everything layed down by the originals basically making it into a "muh animu powerlevel garbage"
They are completely different movies
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>>64188232
5>4>7>6>1=3>crap>2
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nope
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>>64195005
now this is vomit inducing
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>>64194836
If that's how you wanna envision it.
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>>64188854
Finally some sense on this board

It was an enjoyable movie. Flaws and all. But enjoyable.
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>>64188854
Go back to your home board already
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>>64195165
my main gripe is that it was the exact same formula as IV, he just repackaged and sold it as new
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>>64195005
Pretty much perfect buy Ep 2 still sucked.
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>>64188232
Nah, the correct ranking is actually
6 > 5 > 4 > 7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 > 1 > 2
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>>64189961
That is really the weak point.

As interesting as some of the developments were, the world building was slim to none.

Even literally, besides Jakku, all of the new places introduced were literally annihilated.
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>>64195267
>Jakku is new
Literally just tattooine v2
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>>64195351
And that new Jungle planet Yavin iV 2

At least Luke was on some island.
But we see a cloud city in VIII...........
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>>64195227
That's certainly a valid point but the way I see it is that this is a Star Wars for kids these days to grow up on. They won't understand or enjoy the originals, but that story is great and simple for a kid to understand. So they updated it and rereleased it. For people who wanted something new I can understand the frustration but I can concede that this is better for the kids.
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>>64195137
That's how I feel about TFA. A charming reboot of the franchise, was cute really. But still nothing more then a fun flick.
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>People like TFA and shit on prequels

You are joking, right? Prequels are the product of one mind and not a studio asspull, they are the closest thing to arthouse films in sci-fi since Dune.
They have lots of similarities with Dune in fact
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>>64188232

Not really. Episode I was underwhelming, as was II, by the time III came out the whole thing felt like a bad joke.
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>>64196409

Dune was shit, as were the prequels.
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>>64195221
this is my home redditor
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>>64196409
Star Wars isn't sci fi unless you watched a different movie than me
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>yfw the memeing gone too far
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Anyone who disagrees with this list is an idiot:

5 > 4 > 6 > 3 > 7 > 1 >2

-anyone who doesn't have 2 at their bottom is a contrarian faggot
-1 really isn't that bad
-within the scope of the original trilogy 3 is trash
-7 isn't that bad, it's just a bland space movie that happens to be star wars, but it did a good job at capturing that star wars feel
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>>64197201
>literally defending a made-by-committee action blockbuster space movie

You're the epitome of a 35-year-old neckbeard "nerd" who will never touch a physically attractive woman or have a real job.

If you use the word "contrarian," you're literally an idiot. It's an invented concept by idiots with reddit sensibilities who are too fragile to deal with criticism of mediocre media that has widespread appeal.

It's a troubling manifestation of millennials' mental weakness. Seriously, the only people who would even entertain any "argument" involving the concept of being "contrarian" are weak, lazy idiots who can't deal with criticism substantively.

If it bothers you that much that people criticize mediocre mass-marketed work designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, like Star Wars, Breaking Bad, pop music, etc., you should find a safe bubble and stay there. Or kill yourself.
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>>64197201
Can't take anyone seriously who puts 3 above 7, tbqh.
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>>64197305
Most films are made by committee you delusional loser
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>>64197314
don't reply to pasta pls
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>>64197314

Sure thing, Disney
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>>64197466

This is what low IQ /b/ posters actually believe. Try watching films that aren't just "hyped" up on your social media page.
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>>64197305
>Ad hominem: the post
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>>64195259

VI > V > I > VII > IV > III > II
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>>64194085
This is the correct one
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5>4>7>6>3>2>1
This is the correct rank. No need to argue about it, guys.
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This thread made me suspect I didnt watch Episode II, because I can't remember most of it
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>>64188854
Truth
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