>TFA on Thursday
>48.1% domestic, 51.9% overseas share
>"fucking terrible domestic/overseas ratio for 2015, but at least it can't possibly get any worse"
>TFA as of Friday
>49.5% domestic, 50.5% overseas
JUST
>>64132213
not out in china yet
america is particularly excited for a truly american franchise like star wars
get rekt
>>64132254
At this rate m8, by the time China's out, TFA will be at 52/48 domestic/overseas and China will push it to a max of 45/55, which is objectively fucking awful and the worst overseas share by FAR for any major blockbuster since probably fucking 2005 when RotS was released.
>>64132213
>Titanic
>71.8% overseas
Impossible. Literally impossible in 1997. At least make your shitposting believable.
>>64132213
It's way more of an achievement to appeal to brave Americans than foreign plebs.
>>64132529
but anon, avatar is the highest-grossing film of all time domestically
>>64132649
Cameron is the biggest manchild of them all.
>>64132699
Would a manchild have the will, desire or vision to create the highest-grossing film of all time, twice?
butthurt hater pls go
>>64132213
You don't follow box office grosses, do you? Foreign box office numbers usually take longer to gather
>haters having to work this hard to find numbers that make TFA not seem like a smash hit
>>64132877
Absolute shit and you know it. Name me a blockbuster that took signifcantly longer to make most of its money overseas than it did to make most of its money domestically. Protip: you can't name one that isn't "avatar" or "titanic"
>>64132440
>I can't go check!!
>haha see its only 69.9% in those numbers!!
>>64132877
THAT ONLY HAPPENS WHEN THE MOVIES AREN'T RELEASED AT THE SAME TIME!
Star Wars has been released everywhere except China!
star wars shits, just wait for TFA to come out in china
avashits, just wait until avatar 2
>>64132938
>jewjew dethroning based cameron
>>64133365
Oh I was only shitposting pretending to be a delusional Jim hater, but looks like they forgot to add in the $50m of domestic gross to Titanic's 3D re-release, but did add the $300m from the rerelease overseas. Either way, still an incredible number for the time.
>>64133403
this
this trolling about TFA's box office is the worst meme, it's only been out for a week and a half
>>64133626
It's not even trolling or shitposting. A pretty much 50/50 split between overseas and domestic is completely unheard of, of a blockbuster released in 2015 (even without China). It's legitimately bad.
>>64132649
>Furritar highest-grossing film in Rednerica
Fucken dog fucking Americunts. You keep on ruining the world with all your animal loving shit, donkey breeder mule fuckers
>>64133365
>1.5 billion foreign
holy shit
How does he do it?
>>64132213
I can't imagine being such a life loser that this is worth throwing a fit about.
>>64133790
>being this butthurt about kike wars
>>64133790
>star wars manchildren screaming on /tv/ for months about how TFA is going to completely curbstomp avatar
>TFA is doing badly overseas compared to domestically, and has such a bad overseas ratio that it's literally impossible for it to even come close to avatar
>DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL I CAN'T LET JIM FANS KNOW THAT THEY'VE WON
kek
>>64133705
What if it just winds up making a billion dollars in the US alone? It's already nearly halfway there.
>>64133891
Impossible to beat or even come close to Avatar with a 50/50 ratio excluding China and $1b domestically
>>64133859
>>TFA is doing badly overseas compared to domestically,
>The international opening wasn't short on records either as it included the largest opening weekends of all-time in the UK (4-day), Australia, Russia, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Austria, Poland (3-day), Denmark (5-day), Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, Croatia, Ukraine, Iceland, Serbia, New Zealand. Second biggest opening weekend in France, Belgium, Israel and Chile.
>>64133891
>cry more overweight piece of shit
>>64132213
2009 was such a bad year for films in REDNERICA.
>>64133960
Nothing more than superficial opening weekend records for the most hyped movie of all time. If you check the weekly numbers for Monday to Thursday overseas, and even Friday (Christmas), there's a huge drop-off.
>>64133960
>muh records based on crazy promotion alone
>still biggest shit film ever
>starts flopping everywhere because europe has standards
>MUH RECORDS !!!
piece of shit orhans
>>64133998
>REDNERICA
What is this gay ass meme?
What does it mean?
You people are fucking retarded. Foreign box office numbers just take longer to gather and to calculate
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=starwars7.htm
Look at the % of total numbers. Look how many are at 100%. Either the film made literally no money after its opening day in those countries, or the only numbers available are opening day numbers.
>>64133739
Avatar had $2 billion in foreign alone
>>64134093
AVATARDS BTFO
>>64134093
Everything that says "100%" means that
the numbers beyond opening weekend haven't been gathered
>fastest film ever to 1 billion
>B-B-B-B-B-BUT THESE NUMBERS I GOOGLED SAY ITS GONNA BOMB
>>64134093
>>64134211
I'm sure countries like Colombia or Hungary will push that ratio. :^) Almost all of the biggest foreign BO markets have already been calcuated. UK, Australia, Germany, Japan, France, Spain, Brazil, Italy, Mexico, Russia, South Korea, Sweden etc.
You can go back to sucking JJ's dick in the other thread now.
>>64132440
The fucking Chinese love Titanic bruh.
When Titanic 3D was released the theater was full of Chinese exchange students.
>Yea I went to see Titanic 3D fight me m8.
>>64134093
>>64134173
>>64134211
Box office mojo does not have the data to update every country daily, so it usually only does weekends.
What it DOES have is the cumulative up-to-date total from all overseas box office markets. This is the number you see at the top there, "foreign total", and is NOT just a sum of all the individual countries. That wouldn't make sense because, as you pointed out, they don't even have the data beyond opening weekend for a lot of countries individually.
What you are seeing is the foreign total being completely correct and exactly what the film has made in every overseas market up to Friday. That is why the foreign total says up-to-date as of the 25th, even though boxofficemojo does not have the data for each individual country up to the 25th.
You're a fucking idiot.
>>64134286
You can't honestly assess foreign box office numbers without half the world's being available. So this entire thread is useless.
>>64134405
see
>>64134341
Fucking retard.
>>64134341
>>64134341
That's not true at all. They update the foreign numbers in chunks, and the domestic numbers daily. I've been visiting the site for years.
>>64134093
>>64134211
the chart also doesn't include figures from countries it's opened in already, including Greece, Norway, Ireland, Vietnam, Indonesia, Bahrain, Denmark, Portugal, Serbia, Luxembourg, Morocco, UAE, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia, Belarus, Dominican Republic, Fiji, Guatemala, Croatia, Kazakhstan, Macedonia and a few more
>>64134448
>he's been reading the site wrong for years
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Here's a source for the $449.9 culumative overseas total as of Friday. This is the number boxofficemojo is citing: http://deadline.com/2015/12/star-wars-the-force-awakens-international-box-office-studio-record-1201673261/
>>64134423
See>>64134448
If you followed Jurassic World's numbers on the site you'd see the same pattern. Furious 7 was still climbing months after its release in every market.
>>64134445
BOWING AT JJ'S FEET
GOOD BOY JIMMY
Star Cucks on suicide watch
>>64134270
>fastest film ever to 1 billion
>hasn't even reached 1 billion yet
KEK
>>64132213
>James Cameron
>big time weeb
>Terminator 1-2, Aliens legit GOAT
>Crushes the hopes of star wars faggots when the Avatar series continues to out gross it internationally and domestically
LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH
>>64132939
>Absolute shit and you know it.
It's not shit. BOM hasn't even updated a lot of the foreign box office takings in the past week.
>>64132213
>caring about 3rd world box office
>>64134521
Furious 7's page is the same.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&view=bycountry&id=fast7.htm
A foreign total that is CORRECT at the time the movie left theatres in every market (28 October), and lots of individual countries that only have data going up to May, June, July in most cases. BUT SURELY THIS MEANS THAT THE BOX OFFICE TOTAL IS WRONG AND WE ARE STILL WAITING MONTHS LATER FOR DATA FROM THESE COUNTRIES TO COME FROM MAY TO OCTOBER. No, you're a fucking idiot.
>>64133705
>>64134341
>>64134506
they don't have completely up to date international figures after a week and a half
domestic figures come in quickly because studios do their own data gathering since they take a much larger percentage of domestic gross
it takes much longer for accurate international figures to be reported because there are more middle-men involved, reporting often happens weekly rather than daily and the foreign cinemas don't care as much about US studios,
the current figure is just what has been reported so far - it's by no means everything it has taken internationally up to this point
James Cameron is reddit: the director, generic, bland, edgy anti-western (especially american) muh rainforest 90's douche
avatar will forever be associated with slavic autism after abatap, anyone who unironically praises it exposes themselves as an autist or a reddit emigree
>>64134506
You do realize that the number cited here wasn't tracked and added daily, but added as a chunk on Friday, right? That's my point. We have to wait until Tuesday for accurate foreign weekend numbers, unlike domestic which is tracked daily.
>>64134661
>Furious 7's page is the same.
Except that it isn't. Read that page.
>>64133708
Lol this guy loves Star Wars. Did you choose to love objectively terrible movies?
>>64132213
>tfw crushing others like bugs
>>64134770
>You do realize that the number cited here wasn't tracked and added daily, but added as a chunk on Friday, right?
Please clarify what you mean by this, so I can tell you how and why you're completely wrong about it.
It's fucking Reddit to care about how much money your Jewish overlords are making. Yes, they're jewish and yes you do everything they tell you.
just curious, im not on either team but tell me something
why do you want a film as shitty as avatar to be the #1 grossing film of all time? its an embarressment to all students of film
>>64134672
You're a fool. See >>64134661, >>64134506
Both the overseas and domestic totals are being updated daily. This is coming straight from Disney themselves. Again the overseas total is being updated with its gross from ALL overseas markets daily.
Jesus christ how can so many fucking retards misunderstand how simple figures work?
By the way,
>it takes much longer for accurate international figures to be reported because there are more middle-men involved, reporting often happens weekly rather than daily and the foreign cinemas don't care as much about US studios
If this were true then the overseas opening weekend of every major blockbuster wouldn't be reported completely accurately at 9am the day after the weekend ends. If this were true we'd see overseas opening weekend box office "estimates" that would change significantly weeks later when the final figures came in. That is not the case, you fucking idiot. The overseas opening weekend totals that come in 9am on Monday after the weekend DO NOT CHANGE months down the time. The same figure than was reported 9am on Monday after the weekend that Jurassic World, Avengers, Avatar, ANY MOVIE EVER MADE, is the final figure, not an estimate, and is the figure that is cited in every article about the movie's gross, on wikipedia, whatever.
>>64134848
he means that the complete, up-to-date foreign figures have not been added to the total, because either foreign cinemas have not yet reported total gross to the distributors, or the distributors have not yet reported to the studios
>>64134549
duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuddeee!!!!
KEK!!! bro!!!! hahahahah!
>Arguing with a SW fag
>Arguing with a SW and a tripfag
Literally no point. Probably will be shifting goalposts again when his "real numbers" pour in.
>>64134763
>REDNECKDIT
>>64135008
And the force awakens is the new citizen kane...
>>64135037
There are no "real numbers", that's what's so pathetic about it. These are the totally up-to-date, accurate, "real numbers".
Why are there all these james cameron shills around nowadays? Mad that no one wants to talk about titanic or avatar?
>>64134848
Foreign numbers aren't added daily like domestic ones. Simply checking the site every day demonstrates this: the foreign box office gross often stays static for multiple days. The foreign box office total for Star Wars was at $279 on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, then was updated yesterday
>>64135062
i didnt even imply that in greentext senpai
i just dont get why people actually root for such a piece of shit
>>64135013
Disney can only report the figures they receive
they cannot report the figures they have not received
ACCURATE international figures take longer to generate because they take longer to get back to generate
Jesus Christ, how can so many retards misunderstand how simple box office reporting works?
Cameronfags are hilarious. They know he hasn't made a truly good film since 91, so they prattle on and on about how much money Titanic and Avatar made, as if that makes them not awful. It's frankly embarrassing.
>>64135068
they are not up-to-date, only the domestic figures are
but whatever, you'll see
>cameron
reddit is that way
>>64135013
>Both the overseas and domestic totals are being updated daily.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150616195116/http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=jurassicpark4.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20150617212418/http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=jurassicpark4.htm
if avatar is so popular why is it never on tv?
all 6 star wars films are shown multiple times a year on network and cable tv
titanic is on like 20 times a year
i have never once seen avatar shown on tv
>>64135151
>t. underage who didn't see it in the cinema
>>64135174
>hating on True Lies
Too far. Also Titanic and Avatar got both major critical acclaim, but sure keep believing redditors who think they're above them. They're great movies and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>64135122
Erm, no it wasn't.
End of Friday, $449.9m overseas total. You've seen this one.
>http://deadline.com/2015/12/star-wars-the-force-awakens-international-box-office-studio-record-1201673261/
End of Thursday, $422.4m overseas total
>http://deadline.com/2015/12/star-wars-christmas-eve-thursday-overseas-box-office-international-results-1201672147/
End of Wednesday, $402.4m overseas total
>http://deadline.com/2015/12/star-wars-the-force-awakens-wednesday-box-office-international-results-400-million-1201671943/
End of Tuesday, $364m overseas total
>http://deadline.com/2015/12/star-wars-box-office-tuesday-international-results-1201671569/
End of Monday, $322.7m overseas total
>http://deadline.com/2015/12/star-wars-force-awakens-monday-box-office-record-1201670879/
See that the box office totals for the 10 major markets are being updated daily along with the totals in those links. This should unequivocally cement what I'm saying is fact.
>>64135321
a terrible film is a terrible film
how does watching it on a bigger screen with a bunch of strangers enhance the experience?
>>64133739
Don't forget, this is in the days before China box office too.
The thing is, Titanic's a great fucking movie. It can be enjoyed by anyone of any age. It's got a solid cast, amazing visuals and a straightforward, watertight storyline.
The same goes for Avatar. If you can get into the same 70's sci-fi/prog rock album cover headspace as Cameron, it's a great adventure film. Granted, it's just Dances With Wolves in space, but it's the best possible version of that idea anyone could have made.
>>64135289
Either the running time is prohibitive for TV schedules or the licensing fee is too much.
Or it could be that there isn't much demand.
>LOLOLOL TFA HAS ONLY MADE 900 MILLION DOLLARS IN A WEEK AND A DAY, WHAT A MASSIVE FLOP
y'all need to chill and come back in 2 months before you can make any sort of concrete predictions, and then come back in 5 months when it's actually out of theatres
>>64135352
See>>64135242
If you want to move the goalpost and talk about deadline, sure, but this thread was about box office mojo.
>>64132304
What is wrong with you? like what are you trying to prove? I'm legitimately curious its like someone is holding a gun to your head....
TFA will beat Avatar hard.
>900 in a week
No movie ever did that.
>>64135379
running time is not an issue
godfathers are shown multiple times a year and both are longer. casino is longer, always on. licensing fees are never too much if you have an audience.
>>64132213
>caring about the movies that shitty foreign countries like
>>64135374
Titanic was released in China, it did 44 million there
It's worth noting that many of these countries pay less to studios than the US does. So a film can make more money overseas but still be less profitable.
>>64135408
HAHAHAHAHA HE'S NOT EVEN ADMITTING HE'S WRONG
Boxofficemojo cites their overseas total from deadline, who get it straight from Disney. For whatever reason boxofficemojo deem it necessary to update the overseas total using deadline but not the individual countries that they report. However deadline gets updated figures from the top 10 biggest markets for TFA daily, and a daily overseas total gross figure which includes updated daily figures from every overseas market. Straight from Disney. Sorry, but you lost. You were wrong.
>>64133403
>>64133559
>everywhere except China
>literally the second biggest market for movies in the world
lets just say for the sake of this argument that TFA breaks the record in china
that would *only take $210 million
add that to the totals and we are still a long way off from 2.7b
it needs to do $100m + in japan, UK, germany, france and australia, russia, SK and soain to have a chance
>>64135550
>>64135408
I may have made a leap in logic here bigger than your brain can handle.
The fact that boxofficemojo gets their overseas total from deadline, which is an overseas total that is updated daily with the gross from every overseas market, means that the boxofficemojo figure too is accurate and up-to-date and includes gross up to Friday from every overseas market. Because they are the same figure.
>>64135550
>Sorry, but you lost. You were wrong.
No, I wasn't. First, deadline doesn't calculate every market simultaneously, only the biggest ones. Second, this entire thread was using box office mojo as evidence without understanding how their system words. Third, this thread assumes that the total domestic percentage is a static thing, when Jurassic World was at 45% domestic before settling at 39%. Pretty much every assumption that OP made is wrong.
I'm trying to figure out what the point of this thread is.
Is foreign money greener?
>>64135716
>First, deadline doesn't calculate every market simultaneously, only the biggest ones.
If that were the case, you could go to any of the links in >>64135352, note the difference between that day's and the last day's figures in each of those top 10 markets, add them up, and they would equal the total overseas gross they've reported for that day. Nope! Not the case. So er, wrong again.
>Second, this entire thread was using box office mojo as evidence without understanding how their system words.
You seem to still not be getting it. The fact of the matter is boxofficemojo are citing their overseas total gross from deadline, who have an updated figure daily that includes gross from all overseas markets up to that day, hence (and this is a big leap) the boxofficemojo total figure is up to date with gross from all overseas markets, because boxofficemojo are getting it from deadline.
You've been misunderstanding how it works the whole time.
>Third, this thread assumes that the total domestic percentage is a static thing, when Jurassic World was at 45% domestic before settling at 39%.
Of course it's not static, it's actually going up in domestic percentage, which is hilarious.
>>64134572
Yeah, I'm kind of torn on all this. On one hand, I love Cameron for Terminator 1/2, Aliens, True Lies,and Piranha 2, but I fucking hate Titanic and Avatar, and desperately want to see them knocked out of the top 2 grossing spots.
>>64135654
yeah it's not happening, what was Disney thinking with Boyega (who did great) and Katniss Jr? One is ok but two is just death internationally. At least they got liberal brownie points
>>64133708
The Resident Evil movies found most of their success in foreign markets, and now they're killing people irl. Based James has never killed anybodywho didn't deserve it.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
>>64135927
What do you predict TFA's final box office will be? since the domestic/international split seems so important to you, can you also provide your predictions for each?
>>64135927
I can't find individual international domestic grosses on deadline
>>64135122
>The foreign box office total for Star Wars was at $279 on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, then was updated yesterday
OP here, this is wrong. I've been checking boxofficemojo daily and they've been updating the overseas total every day after the opening weekend shortly after deadline posts it. You can see this for yourself. First piece of evidence, this archive from Friday: https://web.archive.org/web/20151226012813/http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=starwars7.htm, showing the overseas total at $422.4m, same as deadline reported, and then on Saturday, https://web.archive.org/web/20151226012813/http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=starwars7.htm, $449.9, same as deadline reported.
There unfortunately aren't any achives of the page between then and opening weekend, but I've got you covered there too. I've been posting these threads/making posts daily updating the domestic/overseas ratio (see http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/J%20U%20S%20T/start/2015-12-23/). As you can see, I've been doing it since wednesday and the pictures I've posted come from http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?id=liberge.htm on boxofficemojo, which takes its totals from the main page from each film. Look at my pictures in the archive link - the percentage for TFA changes every day, hence the totals are updated every day.
>>64135518
Yeah, but we now live in an era where a movie can make hundreds of millions in China. $44 million is nothing, albeit extremely impressive for the time.
>>64136593
What do you think the final totals will be?
>>64136593
The international total didn't change from Monday to Wednesday. Only the weekend estimates were aviablable until Thurseday
>try to appeal to other non american audiences by adding latin, black and jew characters.
>Backfires completely
Has that strat EVER worked?
>>64136493
We'll look at between Sunday and Monday as an example.
>Sunday cumulative totals
>UK ($48.9M)
>Germany ($27.3M)
>France ($22.7M)
>Australia ($22.7M)
>Japan ($13.5M)
>Russia ($12.3M)
>Mexico ($11.3M)
>Italy ($9.2M)
>Brazil ($8.3M)
>Monday cumulative totals
>UK ($59.4M)
>Germany ($31.4M)
>France ($26.9M)
>Australia ($22.4M)
>Japan ($15.9M)
>Russia ($13.3M)
>Mexico ($12.7M)
>Italy ($10.4M)
>Brazil ($9.6M)
http://deadline.com/2015/12/star-wars-the-force-awakens-overseas-box-office-1201668699/
http://deadline.com/2015/12/star-wars-force-awakens-monday-box-office-record-1201670879/
Deadline reports $41.7 total overseas gross on Monday (see 2nd link), but the cumulative differences only total $26.1m. There's a slight inaccuracy in that the cumulative total for Aus is $0.3m less on Monday than on Sunday (I assume this is a typo), so if we assume it has a similar gross to France on Monday (which it had grossed exactly the same as up to that point), that's another $4.2m taking the total to $30.3m, still nowhere near the $41.7m reported. So the logical conclusion is that the $11.4m difference is made up from the Monday gross from every overseas market except those top 9 above.
There is no way to argue yourself out of this one, sorry.
>>64136937
What do you think the final totals will be?
>>64136961
Alright, jesus. I imagine we'll see somwhere around $900m domestic with somewhere very close to a 50/50 domestic/overseas ratio minus China, taking it to around $1.8b without China. I predict it will make around $300m-$350m in China, so the final total will be around $2.15b, finishing behind Titanic.
>B-b-b-but muh Avatard!!!
>B-b-b-but unobtanium!!!!
>B-b-b-b-but sales equals quality! Just as McDonalds!!!!
>>64132213
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-wars-7-the-force-awakens-breaks-christmas-day/1100-6433376/
Awwww, so sorry James. You just got BTFO on Christmas day.
You know Christmas right? The day chosen to celebrate Jesus Christ, a man you hate.
>>64136937
Australia having a smaller cumulative gross on Monday is a pretty big bugbear in your theory. I wouldn't say your assumption is 100% safe, unless how that cumulative international total is determined is flat-out stated.
>>64135374
>watertight storyline
damnit carlos
>>64135374
>Titanic
>watertight storyline
Please tell me that was intentional.
>>64135289
because 3d tvs aren't popular enough. The only reason to watch Avatar was because it was filmed in 3d
>>64137329
>Australia having a smaller cumulative gross on Monday is a pretty big bugbear in your theory.
It's a typo, you absolute idiot. In fact, looking at boxofficemojo's opening weekend by-country gross, it's a typo on Sunday, not on Monday. Sunday should read $20.6m. So that's a $2.1m increase Sunday to Monday, making the cumulative difference between the 9 biggest TFA markets $28.2m.
>I wouldn't say your assumption is 100% safe, unless how that cumulative international total is determined is flat-out stated.
Where is the rest of that $13.5m discrepancy coming from? Only half of the remaining overseas box office markets? I'm not arguing with an autist that can't make reasonable jumps in logic without the facts staring him in the face. The 9th biggest TFA market only jumped $1.3m from Sunday to Monday. It is entirely reasonable to conclude the rest of the small markets made $13.5m together.
So to conclude, you were wrong about boxofficemojo and have had no idea how their figures are calculated for years, you were wrong about them not updating their overseas numbers daily, and you were wrong about deadline only being calculated from the major markets that they bother to provide figures for.
>>64137698
>you were wrong about them not updating their overseas numbers daily
see>>64135242
>>64137744
Yes, I forgot I hadn't finished off the post that proved you wrong there too. Here you go:
>>64136910
Did you even read the post? It did change Wednesday. I posted http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tv/image/1450/88/1450888118409.png on Wednesday, taking the screenshot from http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?id=liberge.htm, which takes figures from the main page of each film. The percentage 52.8% is exactly the figure 364/689.4 of the overseas divided by the total figure taken from when deadline posted the end-of-Tuesday results (http://deadline.com/2015/12/star-wars-box-office-tuesday-international-results-1201671569/). Hence boxofficemojo updated the end-of-Tuesday overseas total from deadline on Wednesday. On Monday, the total was updated with the opening weekend figures of course, and I've also accounted for days after Wednesday. The only day unaccounted for is Tuesday with the end-of-Monday results, but given that boxofficemojo has updated with figures from deadline for every day since its opening weekend, I'm going to conclude that it was updated with the end-of-Monday results from deadline on Tuesday like every other day this week.
>>64137884
They wayback numbers for the weekdays didn't change until Thursday
>>64135152
>>64135190
>>64137884
My final post is just to prove that the overseas totals that are posted on boxofficemojo are indeed accurate to the "as of" date they say they are (that is, they incorporate the box office gross from every overseas market up until the "as of" date). Here's an archive from May 20 showing Age of Ultron's overseas May 8-10 weekend gross: https://web.archive.org/web/20150520203441/http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&view=byweekend&wk=2015W19&id=avengers2.htm.
Note that the total is exactly the same as it is now (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&view=byweekend&wk=2015W19&id=avengers2.htm), and in fact ALL the individual country figures are the same. The only thing that has changed is they've filled in some of their gaps and added some more individual country figures in (Mexico is absent in the May 20 archive, for example). Note that the total does not change between the two even though more countries are added because that total ALWAYS included those countries in the first place, they just didn't have accurate individual data then, only a total. This is exactly what is happening with the overseas total. The total is updated daily with the new box office numbers that included cumulative box office gross from every overseas market up to that date. The individual figures do not change yet because they don't have accurate individual data, only a total. When they do update the individual country figures to a more recent date the overseas total will again, not change because it always included them in the first place
You can do this with any movie you can find boxofficemojo archive data for.
>>64138297
So you don't know how the wayback archive works either? Fortunately the site itself can enlighten you:
>Note: This calendar view maps the number of times http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=starwars7.htm was crawled by the Wayback Machine, not how many times the site was actually updated.
>>64138527
Something being true is some cases doesn't automatically make it true in every. There are multiple instances of the domestic tally rising while the foreign tally stays static
>>64138680
I never claimed that the overseas figures were updated daily for every film; they're absolutely not, and I know that. I claimed only that they were being updated daily for TFA at the moment. For 95% of movies you will only get weekend and weekday overseas numbers being released in batches and updated on boxofficemojo according (for example, Monday to Thurs gross, updated on Friday and Friday to Sunday gross, updated on Monday). It's only because TFA is such a big box office event and it's in the very early stages of its release that we're getting daily updates from overseas at all. It's also a marketing thing - releasing new figures daily to news sources keeps them talking about the film and makes the film and Disney look good. Domestic figures are much more likely to be updated daily for longer, and yes, almost every record-breaking major blockbuster in its first few weeks gets daily domestic updates but only weekend total and weekday total overseas updates every week. Jurassic World (I imagine) followed this pattern.
>>64138297
I don't care to pettily argue with you whether the numbers were updated or not just because the archive happens to not have any screenshots from between Monday and Friday. I know they did, and you'll see them being updated every day from deadline figures from now on if you look. I've made my point quite clear about everything else.
Back to my main point, TFA is doing poorly overseas in comparison to its domestic performance and will have no chance of toppling Avatar, and only a slim chance of knocking Titanic off of #2. The overseas numbers (which are completely up-to-date with domestic numbers in every overseas market) as of the end of Friday only make up 50.5% of TFA's total gross, incredibly poor even with out China. My predictions for TFA's final gross are >>64137017
This is my final post.
God I can't wait until Avatar 2 barely drags itself to 700m worldwide
