Is this the best cinematic scene of all time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hoXNXSpmng
>>64129889
Bingo
>>64129889
>but muh plinkett said all the prequels are trash and have nothing good in them!
>>64129889
Yes.
God I want to fuck Padme
>>64129889
1:22
thingken about sand
>>64129889
nah its shit
>>64129889
What are they thinking about?
>>64130368
sand
This scene was well done. The idea for the scene was to show the moment when Anakin turns to the dark side. This was all that was needed, a soundtrack and his face showing the conflict and his ultimate decision.
So damn good.
>>64130500
go to sleep Georgie boy
THE REPUBLIC WILL BE REORGANIZED INTO A NEW GALACTIC EMPIRE FOR A SAFE AND SECURE SOCIETY
>>64130626
I will never watch clone wars because I think all 3D stuff looks goofy as fuck
Just comical proportions.
>>64130683
>I will never watch clone wars because I think all 3D stuff looks goofy as fuck
You're missing out on the best Star Wars ever filmedafter season 1 which is awful kiddie shitand the clone wars movie which is so bad it's unbelievable
Clone Wars is so good it makes the prequels good, by explaining the characters and why you should care about them, and filling in all the details of how Palpatine came to power.
I was honestly thinking just a while ago why TFA didn't feel right to me, and I think I finally got it.
Lucas was always a weird experimental film director, even the original star wars was actually an experimental film. It stylized itself after a Saturday serial, had some of the first truly dirty and used looking prop work at least in sci-fi as I can't say about all of film, the aliens were just this down to earth matter of fact thing. It just happened to be based on the concept from a hero with a thousand faces which made it really resonant with a lot of people.
And the more I think about it the prequels really were the same, they just didn't mesh as well with the public because instead of being this great but resonant and easy to understand story, it was this weird mesh of the fall of Rome and the rise of Napoleonic France, where the experimental visuals were CGI based and designed to contrast the gritty visuals in the original with this super pristine world and the Jedi doing all this crazy shit that they couldn't do by the time of the empire because everything had gone to shit. And the fall of a hero.
But TFA... it didn't try anything, except to be ultra personal. And this scene really made that just hit home, compare how Lucas understands how to use subtlety. The way he uses the light, compared to jar jar who just went. "umm, okay so red is bad and blue is good, and to show he's bad now we'll have the blue light go away so it's all red"
>>64130787
That's nice but I just can't. It looks like some dreamworks or pixar trash that'd run on nick at 10am in the morning.
>>64130500
yep
if this was done by Disney, it would have had an ugly quip in there somewhere, ugly acting with lots of ugly camera movement and ugly shitty ambiance
why does the camera keep showing the hovercars
>>64130807
autism=/=experimental film director
>>64130865
same here. I can't take it seriously.
I don't mind too much though, I like the prequels as they are and don't need any extra explanations,
>>64130954
in regards to clone wars cartoon*
>>64130899
to advance the story
>>64129889
No, this is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gpXMGit4P8
>>64130787
You are welcome
>>64131148
sorry i meant >>64130683
>>64131148
>Maul
>>64129889
This scene always used to unsettle me as a kid.
It's also quite a powerful one, that sweetens some subtle OT moments. Anakin's in deep thought, already regretting the things he has done and will do.
In VI, When Luke is captured and tells Vader that he can turn to the light, Vader responds with "It's too late for me, son." He turns to a balcony and looks out.
Echoes this scene quite a bit. POTTERY
>>64129889
Revenge of the Sith actually has a lot of great scenes, people just tend to lump it in with the other prequel movies and forget about the good parts.
>>64129889
I haven't seen this since 2005 in theaters. Natalie looks so beautiful in this scene.
>>64129889
The scene honestly would have been better with moments of complete silence.
>>64130249
who doesn't?
>>64131358
I know, right?
RotS is great just for the rise of the Empire and watching McDiarmid chew the fuck out of the scenery.
>>64129889
Thank god Courescant got blown up, I hated that fucking planet.
I would fucking ravage natalie portmans cunt
>>64131148
Thanks man. I was looking for this earlier today.
>>64131266
the music used to legit scare me when i was younger
>>64131393
I don't think she'd willingly let you do that
>>64131393
I would insert my dongle into Natalie's port, man.
>>64129889
DUDE THIS IS SO DEEP
>>64131475
The shit-brown eyes ruin her for me.
>>64130500
HURR DURR LE PREQUELS ARE MASTERPIECES NOW
HIM STARING INTO THE WINDOW JUXTAPOSED WITH CUTAWAYS OF PADME STARING OUT THE WINDOW TOO IS SO DEEP AND SUBTLE ESPECIALLY WHILE THE INTENTIONALLY SAD TRAGIC MUSIC PLAYS IN THE BACKGROUND HURR DURR SO CINEMATIC SO MANY UNDERLYING THEMES
>>64131377
Unholy things
>>64131519
Better than anything out of TFA. Face it, pleb.
>>64129889
I was actually rewatching this today, and it's certainly the best scene in all of star wars. I forgot how truly damn good RotS is.
>>64131552
nah its not prequelshit
>>64131519
>he doesn't understand the poetry
>>64131565
>I forgot how truly damn good RotS is
This.
Easily the best of the prequels, andBetter than Return of the Jedi.
Not gonna lie this scene felt like it didn't even fit in with the rest of the film it was a tier above it.
10/10 cinematography
>>64129889
At least the last star wars movie made by lucas did envoke feelings within people.
>>64129889
This could have been good if the rest wasn't so shit and they had a believable romance with actual chemistry
>>64131148
ahsoka is a garbage character for garbage people.
>>64131588
Honestly? Its better paced and a more interesting story than ANH too, which I watched directly after. It doesn't help that george shit some of the worst cgi of all time all over the SE either. Need to watch empire next to see how its held up for me.
>>64131387
?
The fuck are you talking about?
Prequel haters are so dumb that they don't even realize it wasn't Croissant that got blown up in TFA.
>>64131683
I still think the first half of ANH (until Obi Wan dies) is better, but everything after that is worse than RotS.
I re-watched TESB last week, so it's pretty fresh in my memory. In my opinion it still holds up perfectly and is the best in the series, no question.
>>64130249
>wanting to fuck padme over anakin
faggot
>>64130168
Do you people honestly believe that everyone didn't hate the prequels before mike's video he made fucking 10 years after phantom menace?
>>64131683
The republic winning --> Anakin turning and murdering children and the whole Jedi order murdered
All this within 15 mins
now this is what I call great pacing
>>64130787
The Clone Wars isn't that special. It's more competently done than the prequels, for the most part, but its storylines are frequently wacky or contrived (Darth Maul's return and Savage Oppress being the most obvious, but Ahsoka's very existence is another) and it doesn't really make the prequel movies themselves any better. If anything it just creates more inconsistencies. Anakin's character was handled better in the series but it's somewhat difficult to reconcile his depiction in TCW with how he is in the movies.
It's not a bad show, but it's far from "the best Star Wars ever filmed." It's decent with some good episodes.
>people actually calling RotS better than any OT films
Jesus fucking Christ
>>64130787
clone wars is just the same prequel tier garbage over and over
The only redeemable quality is the clone troopers
All of them has the same looks but different personalities is pretty good
>>64131852
Yes, they believe it.
>>64131869
You underestimate how powerful love and fear are.
As does everyone who complains that his turn is too quick.
It's set up perfectly.
>>64131852
>that everyone
>everyone
nice meme
you mean people without taste?
>>64132014
No I mean everyone that wasn't 7 years old or kevin smith
>>64131998
It's not
Nothing significant happens in that fucking movie until that godawful duel with Sheev and Windu
And after that shit just goes down in barely 20 minutes
>>64132057
>you will never be this retarded
feels good
>>64131998
fuck off george
>>64129889
I cry every time senpai.
>>64131998
AAHAHAHA THE CRINGE IS REAL
>>64132041
>or kevin smith
fair enough
>>64129889
>Padme sitting on couch
>Anakin sitting on chair
>Padme stands and walks over to a window
>Anakin stands and walks over to a window
This one scene is 1000x more emotional than anything in TFA.
>>64132128
>sincerity is cringe
hello normalscum
>>64129889
No, but the one that comes after is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT8j9DxlRyE
>>64132158
Welcome the post-modern world. Enjoy your stay. If you like anything with any degree of sincerity you're naive and not intelligent like us cynics who separate ourselves from the things we like with a layer of irony.
>>64132154
>Padme sitting on couch
>Anakin sitting on chair
>Padme stands and walks over to a window
>Anakin stands and walks over to a window
You just described the entirely of Revenge of the Sith, and most of Attack of the Clones.
>>64132205
He thinks the world is still post modern, lol
http://www.metamodernism.com/
>>64131998
>defending the prequels
what
>>64132262
Welcome to post-star wars VII /tv/, where we defend avatar,the prequels are under-rated gems and george lucas is literally jesus.
>>64132205
this is why I just fall on post-irony
star wars prequels are the essential new sincerity starter pack
TFA fedoracore plebs can fuck right off
>>64132331
Very well put.
>>64132317
>post-star wars VII /tv/
>where we defend avatar
you haven't been here long enough
>>64132317
What a miserable existence this is.
>>64132374
oh I have, I've been pretty absent though, since bane posting ruined this board beyond repair
You guys just can't appreciate George
He is truly a fantastic director and a true visionary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXaDtAtpLPs
>>64132331
>Implying defending the prequels isn't maximum fedora
>>64132222
quads wasted on a Plinkett fanboy that can't think for himself, shame
>>64132429
fedoras are usually OT purists tho
>>64131475
Is it just me or does her face look CGI'd in this?
>>64132429
>>64132469
Why would anyone not be an OT purist? That doesn't make sense.
>>64132522
t. fedora
>>64132522
people who's first star wars was phantom menace I guess.
The prequels are shit. Star Wars has been done better in videogames like Jedi Knight than 3 prequels managed
If only the EU wasn't such a joke that at least Lucasarts games could have made it to canon. Characters like Kyle Katarn deserve to exist in an actual movie
>>64132558
That's a terrifying fucking thought.
>>64131519
This is what happens when you fall for the memes, or an example of the type of person that falls for the memes. Get a good look.
>>64132331
>>64132158
>>64131998
>>64131683
>You will never be this autistic
>>64132635
>the prequels being good is a meme
nah
>>64131519
>someone does something with sincerity in their heart.
>gets mocked for it, attacked for hating the fans
>someone does something for pure commercialism
>gets praised as being a champion of the fans.
>>64132558
Can confirm, saw OT when i was 5
still not an OT purist. Prequels are pretty cool t͏͏b͏͏h lads
>>64132679
You're missing out.
>>64132693
this
>>64132693
>sincerity
DUDE LUCAS TOTALLY DIDNT MADE THE PREQUELS TO BOOST TOYSALES LMAO
>>64132740
He didn't.
Where were you when you realized that OT purists are not even 20 years old?
>>64132759
meme
>>64132693
>being sincerely shit is better than being insincerely competent
No
And George wasn't sincere with the prequels. He had no fucking idea what he was doing
>>64132760
On 4chan, probably.
>>64132778
Thanks for the (You).
>>64132522
Idealogical purity is poison, doubly so for fandom.
>>64132719
>Liking shit.
It's okay to like something bad if you're self aware enough to know it's bad. Prequel fans trying to pass their shitty movies off as good is so fucking cringe inducing.
>>64132786
fucking idiot, lmao
George: Talentless Genius
JJ: Talentless Hack
>>64132740
yeah he made this weird, complicated story and very heavily made to play off the originals with lots of scene by scene playoff, that was hard to follow becuase he was looking for a safe money maker.
>>64132786
Are you retarded?
Sincerity has fuck all to do with competence.
Go back to high school.
>>64132815
nah. Star Wars was a fucking miracle for George. If it wasn't saved in editing, he would be a fucking nobody.
>>64132740
>dude fleshing out the senate, the clone wars, and Anakin's young love and fall to the dark side (literally classic tragedy here) was all just one big cynical cash grab for kids
>>64130500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvWv3uosN9E
This one is also great. Anakin realizing what he had done, what price he paid for saving Padme. He was before what could be only described as the devil himself, there was no turning back for him now. He embraced the darkness and his responsibility.
Both actors performance were also top notch in this scene.
>>64132833
Yes it does
I can sincerely love star wars and draw a fan comic for people who also love star wars, but I draw like a 6 year old so it is shit
My intent was sincere though
>>64132786
It's amazing that people don't understand this. The Phantom Menace was such a cynical movie; it was designed to appeal to as many people as possible so it could be a massive box office hit. That's why's it's such a fucking mess.
Anyone who thinks George had any sort of "vision" with The Phantom Menace, or any of the others, is fucking lying to themselves. Fucking revisionists.
>>64132860
That's why he's a Talentless Genius.
>>64132740
>replying to obvious memers
>>64132860
He was already known for American graffiti.
>>64132803
they aren't shit tho
>>64132803
I'm also self aware enough to know that Empire Strikes Back is a coma-inducing meme flick with 1 iconic scene that's blown out of proportion
It rhymes like a poem!
>>64132945
They objectively are.
>>64132949
>battle for hoth
>coma inducting
>>64132943
THX 1138 is amazing as well.
>>64132918
You're the second most stupid person i've ever met.
>>64132919
Actually, the outright dismissal of George's vision is the revisionism.
>>64132949
Got me to respond.
Give me one good reason why the opening scene of RoTS isn't the greatest of all time.
George: Myopic Visionary
>>64132986
Yourself being the most?
>>64132919
>yfw TPM was closer to his first ANH draft than ANH was. The story had been written since '76. There was nothing cynical about it.
>>64132978
>objectively
There's that word again.
>>64131519
Hello Reddit!
>>64133025
It's not
>>64133025
>Computer animated starfighters fly around an even bigger computer animated capitol ship above a computer animated planet with tons of computer animated ships in the background.
What's memorable about it exactly?
>>64133056
No,The guy who ran the unit at this long term behavioral correctional facility I was at.
>>64132979
you better believe it
I saw the un-color corrected "original" theatrical edition without any additions this year
Most notable standout stuff is the banter between han and leia, but even that couldn't save how hollow the movie actually is overall. I just kept waiting for it to finish.
>>64133100
>computer animated
>this is an objectively bad thing
>>64132986
>THX 1138 is amazing as well.
Wasn't a mega hit tho, American graffiti meanwhile made an outlandish amount of money at the box office.
>>64133060
>TPM was closer to his first ANH draft than ANH was. The story had been written since '76. There was nothing cynical about it.
So why is it so much worse than both movies?
>>64133130
So you think all people who are above you in the power structure are dumb?
>>64133179
>both
What third movie are we talking about here?
TFA?
Because TPM is an order of maginitude better than TFA.
ANH>TPM>>>>>>>ANHSE>TFA
>>64133100
It's an artistic and technical marvel.
>>64133165
It is when it's shoved in your face for no clear reason and looks obviously fake. There is absolutely no drama or tension in that scene, as opposed to say, the opening to ANH. All the beginning of ROTS is doing is saying "Look what we can do with our computers," when the opening scene to every OT movie is trying to tell a story.
>>64133186
obi-wan and the council don't trust me
>>64133186
of courshe!
>>64130683
It's actually much much better than the horseshit prequels. I don't think lucus writes for it at all.
>>64133100
Hating all CGI is reddit tier. The CGI in ROTS is miles away from the garbage in AOTC and is the best space battle in the series, far ahead of anything in the OT.
>>64133223
No, it isn't. How deep in denial do you have to be to believe that TFA is worse than any prequel film? That's so absurd that I'm convinced you're a troll.
>>64133223
>Because TPM is an order of maginitude better than TFA.
Just because you trolls keep saying it doesn't mean it's true
>>64132222
awesome get, shit post (ahahahaha get it)
>>64133278
Oh look! Another Mr. Plinkett impersonator.
>>64133229
>when the opening scene to every OT movie is trying to tell a story.
???
How is the ROTS opening not telling a story?
If you hate CGI fine, but don't make up dumb bullshit.
>>64133278
It's in no way absurd, and dismissing reasonable opinions as trolling is annoying.
>>64133268
>It's actually much much better than the horseshit prequels.
anti-art man children who still watch cartoons typically do have trouble getting along with the prequels
>>64133278
I'm not him but TFA is only better than AOTC. ROTS is miles ahead of TFA and TPM is slightly better.
>>64133311
>trolls
I'm not trolling. That's so fucking lazy to use "troll" as copout for opinions you don't like.
>>64133273
Maybe best LOOKING space battle, but definitely one of the least important on a story telling level. It literally only exists so they can jam a space battle scene in for the sake of it.
Even then, the Battle above Endor still looks fucking awesome.
>>64133335
The prequels are cartoons.
>>64133360
And saying TPM > anything is the laziest of b8
>>64133371
Endor battle= best practical effect space battle ever
RoTS opening= best CGI space battle ever
>>64133381
You're a cartoon.
>>64133335
Dumb frog poster.
>>64133371
It's a visual spectacle that does get the characters where they need to be in the story. It's not totally pointless. Sure it could be done differently but well, it was done that way. and it's fun, it's cool. And does what it needs to do for the narrative.
>gives you a snippet of the war
>anakin and obi-wan working together as bros
>gets anakin to face dooku and meet palpy face to face.
>>64133335
>anti-art man children who still watch cartoons typically do have trouble getting along with the prequels
The prequels are literally a PS2 era cutscene.
>>64129889
>>64132874
These scenes are seriously great and the transition of Anaking becoming Darth Vader is actually well done. I wish it would have been longer though.
I also wish Anakin had been more tempted rather than manipulated. As if, why should the fear of the dark side stop him from becoming the most powerful Jedi of them all?
>>64133396
It's not bait.
>>64133444
>>64133424
Endor battle: characters we like engaged in a final battle for survival.
ROTS battle: ?????????????????
One battle exists to help tell a story, the other exists simply for its own sake.
Could you prequelbros
Explain the significance of this scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXaDtAtpLPs
I'm not that smart and I have honestly no idea what George tried to tell us with this scene
>>64133381
they are neither cartoons in form or substance
TFA and even aspects of the OT fit that description better. TFA is essentially a video game. J.J. makes video games for the video game audience.
>>64130249
She WANTS TO FUCK YOU TOO!
>>64133439
>I also wish Anakin had been more tempted rather than manipulated.
This is what threw people for a loop.
Anakin's fall working for you depends on if you can accept a different motivation than the one you were expecting.
>>64133371
Shows what's happening in the war
Shows change in anakin and obiwans relationship
Shows bro ship with the clones
Introduced first plot conflict (find the chancellor)
Ensor scene:
Has action with random extras not important to the story
Remind me again how Endor is superior?
>>64133491
>they are neither cartoons in form or substance
Kek.
>>64133371
>jam a space battle scene in for the sake of it
Or show that the war has reached a stage where it's right by their fucking doorstep.
Don't hate for the sake of just hating.
When people ask me why I defend George, I like to make a simple comparison. Jay Jay Abrams is the Thomas Kinkade of film, while George is the William-Adolphe Bouguereau of film. One makes generic crap, the other, a master of his art that produces work far beyond the understanding of mainstream audiences.
>>64133431
No they're not.
>>64129889
mute sound, try not to laugh. lmao
>>64133498
>Anakin's fall working for you depends on if you can accept a different motivation than the one you were expecting.
Well, it's more about Obi Wan's explanation, that he was seduced by the dark side. Here he saw pretty much no other choice, which is fine by me. I like Lucas decision there.
>>64133520
>Or show that the war has reached a stage where it's right by their fucking doorstep.
Doesn't seem to mean anything since the surface of the planet is totally unaffected.
>>64133025
If you're talking about greatest opening scene for a Star Wars movie, it isn't. The original Star Wars had a much more exciting and visually innovative opening.
If I'm allowed to bring up non-Star Wars movies, 2001: A Space Odyssey makes the prequels look like movies made by 8 year old children with Super 8 cameras.
>>64133474
What?
The RoTS battle is showing that the seperatists have attacked the capital of the republic and captured the chancelor and the two best generals in the galaxy have been dispached to deal with it.
>>64129889
>thinking about sand
>>64133427
That space battle is so out of place. Why the fuck are the droids even there? At the end of ATOC we see the droids get their ass beat by the superior clones.
>>64133520
And literally nothing has changed on the planet. They're completely unaware that the droids are even there.
>>64133531
>>64133566
What a dumb post. You have bad taste, my friend.
>>64133563
I like it too, i'm just trying to be diplomatic with people who don't like the prequels.
>>64133566
bad post
this thread is a meme
>>64133531
I hate to break it to you, but Bouguereau was behind the curve in terms of actual things that were pushing the limits. He did some progressive shit to be fair, but his work was pretty standard mythologized stuff.
>>64133575
Except we never see him get captured. We're told he gets captured by a character we've literally never even hear of before. The most confusing thing about that movie, seeing it the first time, was that no one had any idea who the fuck General Grievous was.
>and the two best generals in the galaxy have been dispached to deal with it.
>Dispatching two generals in easily destructible craft to boards a ship by themselves with no assistance.
What a great story. Please explain how it makes sense to for two generals to act independently in such a way.
>>64133487
Comedic relief.
The movie was meant for 12 year olds and he felt it needed some cheap jokes so it doesn't lose the younger crowd over its serious and fairly complex plot.
>>64133685
>Please explain how it makes sense to for two generals to act independently in such a way.
It doesn't. Lucas just gave all the Jedi the title of general because it sounds cool
>>64133706
>Defending TPM
Stop
>>64133676
So you're saying he didn't care about trends and instead focused on mastering his art?
>>64133589
>That space battle is so out of place. Why the fuck are the droids even there? At the end of ATOC we see the droids get their ass beat by the superior clones.
Because there's fucking trillions of them. Droids are way easier and faster to make than Clones, but clones are way better.
>>64133565
>>64133589
Which is a shame I agree, but the scene still makes its message. Too bad Lucas didn't build on it by showing complete paranoia in the city and economic disruption instead of everyone just walking around unaffected.
>>64133706
you're a memer I'm out of this thread
>>64133805
What about it? It's a perfectly reasonable explanation that completely leaves any personal feelings about the scene in question, you are still free to dislike it for what it is.
>>64133755
Eh, the really big thing he did was teaching though, and getting women into the academies. I mean using his clout to open the French Academy to women is a brilliant thing don't get me wrong. But the realists are the real heroes artistically of that time period.
>>64133786
Yeah how terrifying, a massive droid fleet that was literally thwarted by two people showed up above Coruscant and did absolutely nothing for the first twenty minutes of the film. Talk about tension.
>>64133805
>space trade taxation
>boycott
>corruption from within
Have you ever read history? The build up to either ww1 or ww2 is precisely what Lucas went for.
A small economic/political disagreement develops into an internal and external conflict, which political leaders take advantage of in order to gain more power. That's a complex plot. It was executed poorly in the prequels, but it's still a complex plot. At the same time you have light saber fights for the transformers generation and slap stick humor in order to keep the younger generations interested.
Keep in mind, i'm not the same anon you responded to.
>>64133805
>you disagree with my opinions that I got from Plinkett, I'm out of this thread.
>>64133805
Ironically, you and your kind are the memers here pal. Don't use words you don't understand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme
>>64133769
So why aren't they attacking planet or doing anything smart? Don't tell me Sheev told them because it's a terrible excuse.
>>64133786
I got the vibe that Lucas was trying to make a point about the Iraq war and how most people were completely unaffected in their lives by it. Just felt out of place and didn't line up with how AOTC ended.
>>64133786
Because lucas at this point was obsessed with realistic depictions of these things. and in situations like that people tend to be a bit flippant unless it's actually gone completely to shit.
ITT: prequel haters shitpost while prequel defenders are polite and intelligent.
>>64133949
>hey guys lets shoot civilians instead of trying to secure our valuable hostage and retreat with as much of our fleet intact as possible.
>>64133955
>Prequel defenders
>intelligent
>>64134016
Case in point.
>>64133955
more like shit tier baiting and yet people still can't stop replying
fuck I just replied
>>64134002
They blockaded Naboo and occupied it, clearly they're not above targeting civilians. Bombing the planet would get the Republic to negotiate or at least demoralize them.
>>64134078
>opinions I don't like are bait!!!111!!!
this got old a decade ago
>>64134122
but your baits are not even subtle
>>64134121
Trade Federation=/=CIS
>arfuing about movies you haven't seen
>>64134121
what. That makes literally no sense and would only serve to galvanize them, not demoralise. And you don't just start shooting random people when you're engaged in a pitched battle with valuable cargo.
>>64133928
>Phantom Menace paints the Senate as a weak, decentralized, extremely bureaucratic central government
>Doesn't even have a military or real ability to enforce laws outside of imposing sanctions and sending strongly worded letters
>Systems rebel anyway because they feel oppressed by space UN
>During a civil war what is basically a confederacy turns into a dictatorship because the space wizard chancellor said so thanks to his dark magic
>>64134078
>b-b-bait
>m-memers
Not a good look for OT purists
>>64134201
last (You) I'm giving to you
meme more
>>64134158
It's not bait.
>>64134186
>the dark side of the force surrounds the chancellor
>>64133100
Everything you just described, since you obviously remember it
>>64134242
thing you don't like=/=meme
>>64134273
BTFO
>>64134185
Literally happens in every major war in history. Lucas seems to love using the buildup to ww2, but he doesn't use actual strategies used.
>>64134159
The Trade Fed was a major player of the separatists.
>>64134242
No memes here pal, just original content and #NewSincerity. I'm not the one regurgitating some fedora gospel from a YouTube pleb.
>>64134349
yeah the blitz sure did make the Brits want to give up.
The only people that even may have surrendered due to bombing like that are the Japanese. and that's debatable forever.
>>64131113
this guy is right, this scene was done perfectly without blue sets and cgi.
>>64133927
It could have been tense if you could see that it was a separatist attack on the republic. Aka, civilians of Coruscant were killed and the clones had to stop the attack with all that they got.
>>64134016
>>64134078
Top kek. You're just proving his point.
>>64134377
nice false flag
>>64134382
The Allies destroyed German and Japanese cities to demoralize the Axis populations.
And it's not like capturing Sheev would have worked either. The Republic would have just promoted someone else
>>64134496
>Implying getting caught wasn't part of his plan
>>64134493
Not even false flagging t͏͏b͏͏h f͏͏a͏͏m
>>64130787
Is Rebels any good?
>>64134186
>Phantom Menace paints the Senate as a weak, decentralized, extremely bureaucratic central government
Like the Weimar Republic for instance?
>Systems rebel anyway because they feel oppressed by space UN
Like Germany under League of Nations for instance?
>During a civil war what is basically a confederacy turns into a dictatorship because the space wizard chancellor said so thanks to his dark magic
Kinda like Hitler taking power by manipulating the Weimar Republic and the German people, for instance?
We all know that Lucas was inspired by ww2 in many instances. Also, how many 12 y/o kids would care about this shit?
>>64131358
Seeing her in Clone Wars, gave me a crush.
>>64134558
Obviously, but the Republic and Separatists didn't know. If he had died somehow, the Republic would have promoted someone else to take over.
>>64132475
No, she was just 16
>>64129889
The clearly fake chairs are a representation of Anakin's hollow Jedi vows. Literally every scene is poetry but I bet you all thought it was just bad cgi like a bunch of plebs.
>>64134847
the cgi wasn't that bad in the scene. It was probably the dawn lighting that made it look aesthetic
>>64134877
>the cgi wasn't that bad in the scene.
>>64129889
mandatory sorry george
>>64130807
Lucas didn't FUCKING direct Empire, the best Star Wars film, and he sure as fuck didn't edit A New Hope
He had his ass saved with Star Wars and he had his stupid ass decisions ignores with Indiana Jones, but the prequels are where he stands alone and where it becomes obvious he is a hack
>>64134987
sup reddit
>>64130168
I just watched his revenge of the sith review and he said it was one of the only good scenes in the movie.
>>64134633
>Like the Weimar Republic for instance?
The Weimar Republic's problems were political instability and currency issues, not that the government was inherently weak.
>Like Germany under League of Nations for instance?
The nations that left the League of Nations did so because they didn't give a fuck about it and viewed it as a waste of time, not because they felt oppressed by it.
>Kinda like Hitler taking power by manipulating the Weimar Republic and the German people, for instance?
This is the only one that even remotely fits.
>>64129889
RotS definitely had the best score out of the series.
http://youtu.be/o--bLEobBFY
>>64135123
>not because they felt oppressed by it
When did they ever say that?
>The Weimar Republic's problems were political instability and currency issues, not that the government was inherently weak.
I'm not going into a historical debate, but Hitler used the Weimar Republic's acceptance of the Versailles treaty to his advantage. Same with the dependancy on loans from the US plus a limited size army.
>>64135243
>Born in 93
>Watched all the old star wars before the prequels because my grandpa had them on VHS
>Watch the Prequels
>Still love the fuck out of them like I did the old ones
>Never understand the hate, because it still looked, felt, and sounded like Star Wars
>Force Awakens comes out
>Absolutely hate it, sounded nothing like Star Wars, looked nothing like Star Wars, felt nothing like Star Wars.
Am I alone in this?
>>64131519
Kids. It's why 4chan hates atheism and liberal shit (big part is reddit though), complete 180 from 8 years ago. The kids are 18 now and think leftist shit is mainstream cause it's popular, hence all tastes are now reversed. Prequels are great, Tom Cruise is great, being a right-wing conservative is great. These modern fags hate weed as well. 8 years ago my agnostic and somewhat-fascist views would have gotten hell, now unless you have a similar view you're 'reddit'.
tldr: average poster age is 18, these fags don't absorb the culture and impose a distorted fold to reddit.
Anyone feel like Padme when the republic lost to the empire? Teens think the prequels are actually good. Fuck son, I'm barely 25. A new age is upon us, old newfags. 6th generation newfags have overtaken us.
>>64135412
No. I'm in the same boat.
>>64135414
>projecting
>>64135412
97 here. Feel the same way. Funnily enough, I watched the originals on VHS too.
>>64135334
The point was that Hitler had a power structure he could use once he stabilized it. Sheev pulled one out of his ass and everyone accepted it.
Though to the points you brought up: They also do not carry the comparison. Weimar Germany was under strict guidelines under Versailles (not the League of Nations) to limit its ability, both financially and militarily, and France and Belgium even occupied the Ruhr when Germany failed to pay reparations in full. These are clear external threats and could easily be viewed as oppression by the people on the receiving end of it. The best argument that could be made for why the CIS rebelled would be due to taxation, but that is some retarded libertarian crap since taxation comes with being part of a nation, or viewing the Trade Federation's occupation of Naboo and the Republic's pathetic response as a reason to form a new system where the member systems could actually feel protected, but that is also retarded since the Trade Federation is a key member of the CIS so why the fuck would other systems join the one that did the initial abuse?
The motivations of the CIS and its members makes no fucking sense. That entire rebellion feels like Lucas shoehorned it in for plot reasons.
