I watched a New Hope today. One thing I don't get is why did Obi Wan let Darth Vader kill him?
>>64108133
How about allowing the protagonists to escape?
>SE lightsabers
Jesus christ
>>64108133
to become more powerful than Vader can possibly imagine.
A disembodied voice that will deceive a boy into killing his father.
Obi Wan was holding up Darth Vader so Luke could escape. by killing himself Obi Wan made things more difficult for them.
bravo lucas!
>>64108167
Would they be unablr to escape if he kept fighting?
>>64108133
Plot demanded it. Mentor needs to croak.
>>64108133
The guy who played Obi Wan demanded it in his contract because he hated the movie. Like Han did for the force awakens
>>64108279
Luke would have never left Obi-Wan "I have the high ground" Kenobi behind, so, yes.
>>64108296
he could have been bested rather than just weirdly committing suicide by vader
>>64108354
jokes on him for being in both sequels
>>64108354
Untrue.
There was no high ground there, so he just gave up since Vader is taller.
>>64108400
this.
Vader should have just defeated Kenobi. what the fuck was Lucas thinking.
>>64108133
He knew he would be able to help Luke more as a Force Ghost then an old man.
To provide incentive for Luke and to be able to guide him as a Force Ghost
I dunno
>>64108468
Hey may have gone too far in some places
>>64108440
>>64108133
He became one with the force and was able to show that to Luke, fully setting Luke on the course to becoming a jedi since he would accept that the force is worth being committed to. That was more useful in their struggle than him staying around as an old man.
>>64108133
It wasn't real Obi-Wan
It's a body double
>>64108133
>defeats him in the prequels
>somehow loses in the sequel
That's not how it works
LUCASSSSSSSSSSs
>>64108133
I always thought that Obi Wan and Yoda planned it that way, that in order for Luke to become a Jedi he had to be motivated by Obi Wan's death. Obi Wan knew he would become a force ghost and he and Yoda basically used Luke.
>>64108133
because he knew he wasn't the one who is supposed to defeat Vader
He literally tells Vader if he strikes him down he'll become more powerful. He needed Vader to kill him so he could help Luke.
I also watched it and was amazed at how great it was. Very few things I'd change about it
At the beginning, Luke said when meeting Ben "isn't Obiwan dead" and Ben chuckled, saying "Not yet.."
He knew he was going to have to sacrifice himself to give Luke that extra kick into believing and following the path of the jedi. Anakin started his path of darkness with the death of a loved one (his mother). I'm guessing Obiwan used the death of a loved one (himself) to make sure Luke would never join Vader
>>64108541
He did the spinning move and everything
>underages are only now watching A New Hope
fuck off
>>64108133
i like the seventh movie better
i watched tfa before anh
>Obi Wan kills Vader
>Force tosses the storm troopers into a wall
>everyone boards the Millennium Falcon and escapes
>Obi Wan is Luke's wing man in the Death Star raid
>instructs Luke to use the Force
>Death Star destroyed
>Obi Wan continues Luke's training
>events proceed as normal minus Vader
>Luke and Obi visit Degobah to meet with Yoda
>Emperor Palpatine himself shows up at Cloud City
>Yoda, Luke, and Obi Wan head to Cloud City together and kill Palpatine
>empire falls
>Return of the Jedi doesn't happen at all
>Peace returns to the galaxy
>Yoda, Luke and Obi Wan rebuild the Jedi Order
>Obi Wan and Luke duel and kill Snoke
>Yoda passes away
>Luke and Obi Wan train Ben Solo and other padawans
>Obi retires
>Luke leads the Order into a bright future
>>64108572
Except Obi Wan planned on going to Alderaan, it would have been a completely different movie if Tarkin decided to hold off on destroying a planet for no other reason than "muh evil"
>>64108675
Needs more Will Smith tier comedy
>>64108682
What does Obi Wan's plan to go to Alderaan have to do with the fact that Yoda and Obi Wan failed to defeat Vader and the Emperor, so they concocted a plan to use Vader's children against the Empire? According to the prequels Obi Wan and Yoda had been training to become force ghosts, Obi Wan knew what would happen if he was killed and knew that Luke had to become a Jedi. His death allowed them to escape and drove Luke to seek Yoda out and train to be a Jedi. Luke and Leia were their plan all along, Obi Wan and Yoda had no intention of facing Vader or the Emperor again. That's why Obi Wan sacrificed himself, to ensure their plan could succeed.
>>64108133
He didn't, he used super speed (as shown in TPM) to quickly take off his robes and run away. Later when he appears to Luke he's just a hologram.
>>64108675
>Obi Wan kills Vader
>Force tosses the storm troopers into a wall
>everyone boards the Millennium Falcon and escapes
>Obi Wan is Luke's wing man in the Death Star raid
>instructs Luke to use the Force
>Death Star destroyed
>Obi Wan continues Luke's training
>events proceed as normal minus Vader
>Luke and Obi visit Degobah to meet with Yoda
>Luke finds out Vader is his father
>feels conflicted and angry that Yoda and Obi Wan didn't tell him
>Emperor uses this confusion and anger to turn Luke to the Dark Side and kill Yoda and Obi Wan
>Peace returns to the galaxy
>Yoda and Obi Wan are the last of the Jedi Order
>Luke leads the Empire into a bright future
>obiwan lets vader kill him with luke watching so luke will have to grow up and learn to use his powers so that he can eventually defeat vader
>han lets kylo kill him so kylo will feel guilty about it and return to the light so that he can eventually defeat snoke
>>64108465
>>64108400
If a fucked up Vader could easily beat Obi Wan then there would be no sense in obi wan having defeated him early on his prime. The point was if the duel took any longer everyone would get captured
>>64108133
I always liked this scene even when I was younger
Something was just really magical and mysterious about his disappearing trick
>>64108133
You know, if Ben didn't die Luke wouln't just leave him behind.
Ben knew he have to die or else everyone would die
Why didn't Chewie get a medal?
>>64108541
Yes it does?
In the prequels Obi-Wan was at the peak of his power.
By the time he faced him again in ANH he was an old man who had not trained for a long time.
Plus he knew that it was up to Luke to defeat him.
Also by becoming a force ghost he was able to then have the high ground compared to whoever it is he was talking to
Is Obi Wan really a good fighter? All the fights he wins in the prequels are pure luck.
>>64111115
He is the best soresu style fighter in the galaxy, he IS soresu
He is also the ideal jedi.
>>64111169
Next best after Windu
>>64111198
windu is not soresu
>>64111115
he defeated Maul and Anakin. although one could say that Anakin defeated himself by not controlling his anger.
>>64111213
My bad, I was meant to quote the anon above you
>>64108354
No he didn't, he gave Lucas the idea of killing his character off though
>>64108270
He allowed himself to die right after he saw Luke stop because he saw them. If he'd continued fighting Luke would have refused to leave.
>>64108541
Vader had just turned in the prequel and so wasn't properly trained in using the Dark Side. Vader when they fought again had been a Sith for twenty years and Obi-Wan in comparison was well past his prime and out of practice.
>>64111451
And vader was totally in practice from the last laser sword battle he fought 20 years ago
>>64108675
Obi-Wan couldn't beat Vader.
So that he could help Luke fire the winning shot. In ghost form, he was able to land a hand in that crucial moment. He made sure that powerful, but inexperienced Luke would be able to actually use the Force in a skillful way.
>>64108133
Why did he disintegrate?
>>64111508
he became a part of the Force, bro
>>64111470
He hunted down all the Jedi that survived Order 66 other than Yoda and Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan even says it in the OT.
>>64111091
>Also by becoming a force ghost he was able to then have the high ground compared to whoever it is he was talking to
>>64108133
>>64108296
>>64108468
>mfw Luke pulls the same bullshit in episode VIII and allows Kylo to kill him
>>64111470
>>64111524
This. Rebels is canon too, so he was fighting and killing Jedi even up till 5 years before ANH.
>>64108133
Is everyone in this thread a retard? He did it to motivate Luke to eventually avenge him. It was a risky gambit, because it exposes Luke to the emotions of the dark side, but it also makes Luke all the more powerful thanks to a newfound drive for revenge. Remember Episode VI was originally titled "Revenge of the Jedi" when it was in production.
For anyone who is still not understanding, it's essentially what Itachi did to Sasake in Naruto but for good reasons.
>>64111573
>Implying it won't be Rey killing him after she turns
>>64111576
Man, Vader killing Ahsoka is going to be brutal.
>>64111605
This is the only thing that gets me really excited about the next movies. Otherwise the movies are going to be so boring following a predictable storyline.
>>64111169
what's soresu?
>>64111576
How does Rebels justify there being active jedi 5 years before ANH when III establishes Yoda and Obi as the only remaining jedi, both in hiding?
>>64111635
Her turning is basically the only thing that could make her character any good.
>>64108133
Because he didn't have the high ground.
He knew Qui-gon-jin was shaking his head in shame in the aftlerlife. So he did the only honorable thing left to do.
>>64111584
>Star Wars
>Naruto
One fanbase full of manchildren pffffffffhahahaahaha
>>64111605
>Luke dying at the hands of his shitty Mary Sue counterpart
pls no
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>>64108167
>>64111671
Never watched it but 5 years is enough time to be the last of something.
>>64111470
Vader was also half machine.
Something tells me with proper upkeep robotic limbs don't age as fast as regular, human ones.
What was the point of Qui-gon-jin's character even existing?
So he could tell Luke to use the force at the end
>>64111671
>III establishes Yoda and Obi as the only remaining jedi, both in hiding?
It doesn't though? They're just the only ones that know each other are alive because they both met up.
Plus one of them, Ahsoka, wasn't a Jedi when the shit went down, and another is a kid who gets trained as a Padawan during the series.
>>64108133
Balance of the force
Luke will become OP so Obiwan kill himself so the force is balance.
>>64111751
They needed a character to test Anakin's medichlorian levels
>>64111763
Who trains her?
>>64111781
If you mean the Padawan it's a him, he get's trained by the only one who was actually a Jedi. Ahsoka was trained by Anakin, but left the Jedi before III, and so she's still got the training from when she was Anakin's Padawan.
>>64111778
I still dont' get the fucking reasoning behind that. Why the fuck couldn't he have just sensed Anakin had a really obvious connection to the force already as a kid and that that meant he had absurd potential.
Vader never did learn that Obi-wan was referring to moral high ground. Becoming a ghost was something he never imagined.
>>64111695
Shame the episode I'm talking about came out in 2004 when I was an actual child and I've since grown out of Naruto, as many people have.
Never change /tv/, you glorious conglomerate of stupidity.
>>64108133
Star Wars was kind of a LoTR in space, at the time that was intended to be a "fly you fools" scene before it was a thing
>>64111908
>Luke=Frodo
>Obi-Wan=Gandalf
>Leia=Arwyn
>Han=Aragorn
>The Force=The one ring
>Yoda=Gollum
>R2D2=Legolas
>C3P0=Gimli
>Sauron=The Emporer
>Sarumon=Vader
Does this change anything?
Is Vader fucked now?
>>64112105
Result is >>64109300
Honest answer, I always felt like Obi Wan thought he had failed Anakin and had lived the rest of his life regretting it and feeling responsible. So he kind of did it to punish himself.
>>64111754
Force Ghosting is much more elegant than the crude radio transmissions of the modern age.
>>64108133
How can you be this stupid?
The others needed to escape.
Luke stopped and would likely have tried to save Obi Wan.
Obi Wan knows this so he lets himself be killed so that Luke has no reason to stay.
Everyone escapes.
>>64111669
A fighting style which advocates staying on the defensive until your opponent fucks up and gives you an opening to strike. Its the in-universe explanation for why Obi Wan just let Anakin drive him back until he had the High Ground.
>>64111584
I do believe that Return was the original title, the guys funding the film thought Revenge would be better, but it was shortly before release that the title was returned.
>>64111733
I find it hard to believe robot Vader would be a threat to the agile acrobatic Jedi of the prequel. He just lumbers around clumsily and hacks at enemies like some drunken gorilla.
Maybe Sidious just let him continue like that as a joke.
>>64112223
>Also he knows he'll be stronger and more useful to Luke as a force ghost
this
/thread
>>64108133
Because he was Le good friendz
Because he was a good friend.
>>64112378
Well he probably would have been more useful alive, but he did know that even if he died he could still help guide and train Luke.
>>64112295
You know what happens to AGI fags. One hit and they are done.
>>64112696
He literally says "If you strike me down I'll become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."
Being incorporeal is more OP than you can imagine you Sith faggot.
>>64108241
Snorted.
>>64111091
>By the time he faced him again in ANH he was an old man who had not trained for a long time.
And Vader was a fucking cripple in a robot suit.
Stop trying to excuse Prequel trash.
>>64112295
He was only like that because it wasn't the prequels though. If they had prequels style fighting Vader would just dominate them through really fast and skilled strikes and parries and so all their flipping around wouldn't mean shit. In fact it would ironically be much like the high ground scene. Try flippy shit, get fucked up.
>>64112862
Robot suit would logically just make him stronger though.
>>64111751
>apprentice sees master die, takes mantle
poetry
>invents becoming a force ghost and teaches it to yoda and obi wan from beyond the grave
if the novelisations mean anything to anyone
>dying wish is to train anakin
not necessary but is one way of explaining why obi wan trains him
>>64112295
The suit was constricting, they didn't have a fight choreographer and the actors were old, they just didn't have the budget to make cool lightsaber fight scenes.
>>64112934
>if the novelisations mean anything to anyone
That was in the movie too brosef.
>>64112874
>>64112900
Pretty sure this is how it works in the novels. He strikes were absurdly fast and strong in a lightsaber fight, and you couldn't overpower him in a force contest, so every Jedi that went up against him got wrecked.
>>64112951
I sometimes forget yoda actually mentions it
but it's fairly vague
also, in the film anakin hears qui-gons voice; the way it's shot, it looks like he's dreaming or reminiscing or something (doesn't help the soundbite is sampled from Phantom Menace), but guess what it's qui-gons force ghost talking to him
>>64112727
top kek
>>64108133
For anyone TOO FUCKING STUPID to articulate this themselves, when Obi said being struck down would make him more powerful than Vader could possibly imagine, he did not mean he would become a mischievous ghost.
He was saying his death would give Luke a reason to want to fight the empire and become a Jedi.
>>64113766
>implying ghost Obi-Wan didn't go around waiting until Leia changed and used Force Perv on her
>>64111716
>GOUT
It has a poor color range, it has too neutral colors in many shots, it has lots of glitches and uncorrected scratches/dirt, a d it does not make justice to the original special effects.
>>64113766
>will make me more powerful than you could possibly imagine
>me
incorrect
>>64114519
He becomes a matyr. So... it's correct. You dull dimwitted faggot.
Are you out of the 11th grade yet?
>>64114556
obi is talking specifically about himself becoming more powerful, not luke becoming more powerful
he is talking about himself becoming a force ghost
>>64108133
It's just a big plot hole, something Lucas was probably going to explain later but then he did Ewoks instead.
>>64108541
Kenobi is like 75 years old in the sequel, of course it makes sense
>>64111669
one of the lightsaber combat forms.
it focuses on defence and using the strenght of the opponent against them.
obi was the master of this form.
it allowed him to keep up with anakin even though he was weaker.
although dooku's dueling form seemed to be the counter to obi's as dooku kept reking obi
>>64114823
Dooku should have been the main antagonist of the prequels god dammit
>>64108279
Luke would have probably went back for him
because the others needed to escape, weren't going to leave him behind, and the fight with Vader was going to take too long.
Luke and the others would've been captured if they kept fighting and Obi Wan knew he probably wouldn't beat Vader.
>>64111584
>Is everyone in this thread a retard?
Yes
>He did it to motivate Luke to eventually avenge him.
Correct
>It was a risky gambit, because it exposes Luke to the emotions of the dark side
And that makes sense because Obi-Wan was admittedly a shitty teacher that takes credit for fucking up Anakin.
Remember Episode VI was originally titled "Revenge of the Jedi" when it was in production.
Yes
I can't believe it took this far into the thread to get the right answer. All this shit about force ghosts and being able to train luke is brain dead.
>>64111064
Why should he have? He was literally the dog
Who /despecialized edition/ here?
>>64116157
>mfw Harmy is considering releasing "Star Wars" in multiple versions with different color palletes, one based on Technicolor prints and other in Eastman prints
>>64116216
muh dicc
Because it was meant to follow the same path as LOTR where ObiWan dies, comes back more powerful, except guinness didn't want to, thus Yoda was created
>>64108675
>Obi-Wan kills Vader
>Force tosses the storm troopers into a wall
>everyone boards the Millenium Falcon and escapes
>Obi-Wan is Luke's wing man in the Death Star raid
>instructs Luke to use the Force
>Death Star destroyed
>Luke is awestruck by Obi-Wan mowing down everything in his path
>believes he was only able to do it because of Obi-Wan's presence and guidance
>begins to doubt himself and covet Obi-Wan's power
>Luke and Ben go to Dagoba and meet Yoda
>Yoda calls Luke impatient, Luke thinks he only receives training because Obi-Wan vouches for him
>Palpatine shows up at Cloud City
>Luke and Obi-Wan go to Cloud City, Luke tries to take on Palpatine and gets blasted, Palpatine reveals Vader is his father and that he made Vader powerful, tries to get Luke to join the dark side, Ben kills Palpatine
>Luke is never injured, never humbled, never accomplishes anything fully on his own
>resentment against Ben for keeping the truth from him mixed up with frustration that he isn't as powerful as Ben
>Return of the Jedi doesn't happen
>Luke doesn't have to rescue Han
>doesn't have to temper his rage to resist the Emperor
>never senses that there is some good in Vader, never gets to refuse killing him and deny that he's evil, never knows anything but hate and resentment for his father
>Yoda tells Luke about Leia on his deathbed, Luke finds out Ben already knew ("there is another") and was going to train her if Luke died
>Luke thinks he was replacable, just a tool all along
>goes full angst
>turns to the dark side
>"YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE"
>"I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND"
>30 years later
>"Han never told you what happened to your father."
>"He told me enough! He told me you killed him!"
>"No, Rey... I am your father."
>>64108541
The prequels spell this out, you fucking idiot. Obi-Wan literally says he has the high ground so Anakin can't win. Then in the OT they fight on equal ground an Anakin wins.
Get some meds for that ADHD.
>>64108440
kek
>>64108541
why not? In the mean time vader increased his mastery of the force. ANd it is possible he lost the first time due to bad strategy and decision making (not factoring in the high ground) not due to a lack of skill and power
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>>64110784
>>If a fucked up Vader could easily beat Obi Wan then there would be no sense in obi wan having defeated him early on his prime
Cyborged up Vader with mastery in the force. There is no reason to believe he should have been weaker. As there is no reason to believe Obi wan had become weaker in old age- that's not how the Force should work imho
Either
A) Obi-Wan knew he could not defeat Vader so he put on a spectacle to draw the Stormtroopers away
B) Obi-Wan could defeat Vader, but it would mean Luke, Han, Leia, Chewie, and the droids would not be able to escape. The Death Star plans would never get to the Alliance and the Empire goes on to rule through planet-destroying fear.
>>64116216
harmy is a hack and his restoration looks like trash
>>64111584
>>64113766
B-but, luke wasn't motivated before that?
>>64117434
The Blurays look much, much worse.
>>64108133
why not?
>>64108133
obi wan is a christ figure.
>>64117592
That's Anakin.
>>64108682
Huh? He clearly did it as a show of force to scare the Empire's residents.
>>64108541
Reddit, is that you?
>>64108133
Bait.
Either that, or you're just fucking retarded.
I still don't get how he just dissappeared
>>64114457
this tbqh w/ u family desu, I can put up with a few shitty effects at mos eisley so I can have much better effects the rest of the movie. Anyone who fanboys over how 'great' GOUT is a fucking idiot.
>>64117515
What is the point of this? That they look the alike? Shmi, Padme and Rey's mom are all unrelated.
1. So he could be a force ghost and guide Luke
2. So Luke would leave. Luke would have tryed to save him otherwise.
>>64108541
>Obi-wan was on equal ground
Do you even /highground/ anon?
>>64116751
>except guinness didn't want to
But he still acted in the movie anyway.
I'm pretty sure you're full of shit.
>>64119563
that's what you're going with?
not this?
>>64108133
To allow luke to escape and to motivate luke to defeat the empire
A better question is why does Vader go for the kill?
With all we know about them now, why wouldn't he want to capture Obi-Wan? Force pull the lightsaber from his hands and turn him over to the Emperor
The truth is Lucas had no plan
>>64123117
Sheev had no use for him. He was too old and rooted in Jedi beliefs to be made apprentice.
>>64108133
Scotty just beamed him up at the exact right moment to trick Vader into thinking he died. That's why he comes back as a hologram later, because he's in hiding and can only communicate using long-range holograms.
>>64123494
So he's the Jedi equivalent of Snoke?
>>64108133
Obi Wan always has the high ground. He let himself die so he could train Luke from a higher plane of existence.
>>64116157
s t r e a m w h e n
>>64123569
if you were to punch someone who is less privileged than you but has the high ground, would it be considered punching up or punching down?
>>64123546
Yeah, basically. The Jedi are notorious cowards, really. Yoda got beamed up, too, because he was afraid the Empire might find him on Dagobah and was unsure Luke and the rebels could win. That's why when he "dies" even his clothes disappear.
>>64119444
the point is literally 'who is her mother'
Pay attention to the fucking movie and you'll understand
>>64119748
He despised the role
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Guinness#Star_Wars
>>64123860
they don't have beaming you dumb shit, its force teleportation
>>64124504
what is this from?
>>64124674
A mod for Jedi Academy called Moviebattles. You canslaughter younglings/v/'s favorite star wars game
>>64124504
>Rosh
For shame.
>>64124674
Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
probably movie battles mod
>>64124727
>/v/'s favorite star wars game
That's KOTOR 2 tho
>>64112295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLRvUhyh2ok
>>64108354
he actually liked it a lot but got sick of manchildren over the years
>>64111860
This. Vader was able to say of Luke "the force is strong with this one" while he was chasing him down the Death Star's trench, so surely Qui-Gon, sat calmly next to Anakin could pick up on the boy's force capabilities
>>64117434
looks pretty fucking good to me
>>64111860
Maybe because he wanted wanted to gauge it more accurately? Think about your last visit to the doctor. Everyone can tell you're a fatass, but they weigh you anyway.
>>64116157
Is there a 1080p version of the despecialized edition?
>>64117434
>>64117515
>>64125164
>720p
LMAO
>>64108133
Self-Sacrifice. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/self-sacrifice
>>64108133
Obi Wan had no choice, look how much lower ground he has than Vader
Vader kills Obi-Wan in Episode IV
Obi-Wan kills Anakin in Episode IIIfrom a certain point of view
Poetry in its purest form.
>>64123962
its either leia or luke
>>64108133
Gotta balance the force dude
>>64108133
the jedi are a death cult
He didn't. His disappearance was all part of the plan to immerse himself in the Dark Side to destroy it, and resulted in him becoming Snoke.
>>64111051
Obi could have ran and joined the others to escape
>>64111584
Nice fanfiction. Obi could have motivated him by telling him that Vader killed his father. Which he did, only as a ghost since he went and died for no reason.
>>64123299
Have no use for him? He was directly connected to the Rebel Alliance. Why else would Princess Leia be headed to Tatooine? Torture him, maybe get some information out of him, ransom him to the Alliance (and set a trap in the meantime) etc.
Granted they probably should have locked the Falcon down and sent Star Destroyers to Yavin IV in advance of the Death Star, but whatever
>>64108675
obi wan couldn't bring balance to the force, only vader
>>64126572
He's been a hermit for years, he wasn't up to speed on intrigue. His only potential worth was as lure for a trap as you said, but even then unless Vader stood guard over him directly, he'd cause more trouble than he's worth.
>>64108133
Because he's old and could be more help in training Luke as a force ghost
>>64108133
I don't know why this was changed. In the original script and novel, Vader just lands a lucky blow and kills him fair and square
Obi Wan wanted to prove the trancendent nature of the force to luke and Vader
>>64117070
And Count Dooku fucked up Obi Wan every time and he was old as shit
>>64108639
Or that's just a joke old people make
>>64108133
>"If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine."
>Literally disappears into thin air and transcends life and reality
>Can go and be anywhere he wants
>>64116888
>this post is now posted on /r/StarWars
