Can Star Wars VII (7): The Force Awakens beat James Cameron's Avatar?
It's locked to kill it domestic, but will almost certainly come short world wide
>>64078366
It may just fall short.
>>64078366
>Star Wars
>Beating Avatar
That's what butthurt hater's actually believe
Yeah because plebs can't stop eating this shit up
Both garbage movies desu
>>64078366
>Blue Furry Movie vs Bad Sci-Fi
whoever wins we lose
>>64078366
Well obviously because Avatar is steamy horseshit.
one was Pocahontas in space, the other was a remake of Star Wars Episode 4
which one was more original?
>>64079546
this tbqh
Its baffling how avatar is such a successful movie when its boring and has no real substance or originality. Really really really good marketing I guess. Don't bother responding with "shut up Cameron is based", seriously Avatar was fucking dull, you're a damn redditor or stupid normie if you actually like it, just like dumbasses who like TFA or any garbage movie that gets thrown at them.
>>64079922
because MUH 3D
>>64079922
Avatar didnt had any special marketing, its just got a good word of mouth recommendation by people.
It may not be the most original story (neither does any other movie that makes $1b+ at the box office), but it was really well told by Cameron and was really gorgeous to look at.
>>64078366
No.
>>64079922
yeah I can't even remember one single character or line in the movie and I saw it twice
>>64079922
People saw it for the 3D, nothing more. Watching it in 2D takes away part of its appeal.
>>64078366
>>64078366
there was literally nothing else to watch that year.
>>64079922
Domestically Star Wars has already crushed Avatar. Avatar was super successful because it did extremely well outside of the US. Why was it so succeful? Because it was the perfect escapist movie that anyone from any culture could watch and sympathize with the aliens.
So what happened to Abatap 2?
Its been seven years when is it coming out
No.
>>64079922
>no originality
It's special effects were innovative. People who work at effects companies will tell you that. Admittedly, the story and characters were nothing new, but the visuals definitely were.
And I'm not saying it's a great film, although you can reasonably make that argument, but it's certainly a league above the typical action blockbuster that *literally* has nothing new to offer like Jurassic World, TFA, etc.
>>64080288
Masterpieces take time
>>64080288
2017 with 3 coming the year after
it will be interesting to see Ep 8 go toe to toe with Avatar 2
>>64080293
except it Star Wars VII The Force Awakens is the best movie of all time
>>64080333
The highest grossing movie of all time. Not once. But twice though?
>>64080375
Star Wars will make $3bn easy.
Also Ney Ney a shit
>>64080293
>impersonating abby
kek
>>64080327
kek, Disney moved the release date of Episode 8 to May 2017
>>64080404
>>64080405
0/10 you're just butthurt.
>>64080429
no matter. Its not like Russia will get to see it
:^)
>>64080278
>Domestically Star Wars has already crushed Avatar.
>Avatar
>Domestic: $760m
>Star Wars
>Domestic: $391m
I dont see how thats "crushed"
Not even close, it won't break the 2bil club
SW just isn't that big worldwide
>>64078366
Both bad sci-fi.
A good(or bad) fight
avatar was excellent tbqhwy
caring about a motion picture's story is like caring about lyrics, it means you don't understand the medium at all
Unless Episodes VIII and IX are phenomenal, VII is the best bet for topping Avatar.
It'll be interesting to see how the two trilogies compete with each other over the next few years. One is quintessential Americana and the other is subversively anti-American.
>>64080506
Avatar was expensive
>>64080561
plebs don't realize that there are only so many stories
Is Reyreyrey better than Neyneyney?
Avatar 2 might go past 4 billion, China fucking loved Avatar, it's the sole reason western movies make bank over there now & their market has grown so much in the last few years
It will do ridiculous numbers in China, especially if they can push 3D/Imax etc into China, it might do a billion there
So even if SW7 did beat Avatar (it won't) it will be crushed by the sequel in 2017 anyway
>>64080607
not really
>Avatar
>$237m
>Star Wars
>$200m
so its pretty much equal if you consider that TFA had a much bigger marketing-campagin than Avatar
The glorious People's Republic of China absolutely loved Avatar.
As far as Star Wars goes. It is relatively unknown in The People's Republic (Mainland) but the same can't be said in Hong Kong.
>>64078366
it probably will
>>64080679
Avatar was all word of mouth, FOX didn't spent shit, lucky fuckers, while i bet Disney spent a billion on marketing
>>64080641
>4 billion
Everyone in China is not going to see it twice. The Chinese market that has the leisure to see movies, wants to see it, will be buying an individual ticket instead of watching a group rate in their factory dormitory and won't see a pirated version or knockoff isn't some massive motherlode that's exponentially larger than the American market.
>>64080782
The thing that made Avatar gross so much was that the word of mouth was all "you just have to see it on the big screen/in 3D"
it was an experience, no one wanted to pirate it, everyone had to see it, preferably in 3D to raise the ticket price
>>64080641
It's actually mindblowing how much China loved it. A gross of $200m in 2009, and the market is already 10x bigger now. Soon enough they'll surpass the US.
>>64080882
Yet people still claim "there's nothing innovative about it." Say what you will about the story, but the visuals were like nothing before.
>>64080882
3D isn't new and exciting any more.
>>64080937
It helps when you live in a country that is oppressive
>>64081018
3D comes & goes in popularity, Avatar 2 is coming out almost a decade after the first, 3D will be fresh again, especially for China
Oh & the whole 4K/60fps shit they will market also will help
>>64081018
3D is done wrong in almost every movie, that's why people are complaining. Hollywood just wanted to cash in on it, and forgot about everything that made Avatar great.
Avatar 2 will also feature a lot of underwater scenes, and we already know Jim is the only person who can handle those. It'll look gorgeous in 3D.
>>64081113
>Oh & the whole 4K/60fps shit they will market also will help
This.
>TFA has only made around 800 million so far in all markets
>TFA spent 200 million on the movie/flick, and a further 200 million on marketing.
>to break even, TFA must make 6 times its investment and twice that to be realistically profitable
>yfw TFA has to make 2.4 billion just to break even, and 4.8 billion to be a financial success
What was Disney thinking? Star Wars has always been a sinking ship. Can anyone even compete with James CAMERAron?
>>64081113
Avatar 1 - 3D
Avatar 2 - 4K/60fps
Avatar 3 - VR
Avatar 4 - full-body suits to experience Pandora on your whole body
>>64081270
will I be able to experience Ney-Ney on my dick?
>>64081270
BLUED
>>64081253
they'll prolly make 4 billion through toys and merchandise alone
>>64081253
>Star Wars has always been a sinking ship.
James Cameron confirmed for Episode IX's director.
>>64081229
Yeah Hollywood fucked up 3D with the whole converting shit
Avatar 2 will bring back the 3D craze & Hollywood's jewish 3D conversion with it, shame
>>64079749
avatar is more original than star wars 7 by far
>>64081113
How is it going to help?
Most movies are filmed in 4K these days and the only theatres that still have 2K projectors are backwater shitholes in Indonesia.
And HFR/60fps is pretty controversial, some people love it but others hate with passion. Can't see a lot of money in there.
Avatar 2 will bomb. Screencap this post.
>they think disneyshits can touch based jim
>>64081332
Cost of toy production is huge as Disney rely on Lego who take 80% of all profit, and Disney has no manufacturing plants. Disney would then have to make 12 billion in toys alone over the course of three years to break even, and a further 24 billion to make a profit.
>>64081359
>60fps
it's bad for live action films, people who confuse gaming fps with live action are mostly /v/edditors who think that more is ALWAYS better.
FOX should play chicken & set Avatar 2 on Star Wars 8's release date
See who changes the release date first
>>64081270
>Avatar 5
>James Cameron uses his funds to rebuild Pandora in our orbit so you can visit the Navi and world of Avatar irl... the absolute madman!
>>64081364
It's too bad they can't spend a long weekend adding in a few CGI aliens and theatrically releasing the movies again in a few decades.
>>64081359
Hobbit was shoehorned in interpolated 48fps, complete shit, Avatar 2 is actual 60fps & Cameron will design it for it in mind
>>64081455
To do this would require an investment of several billion to Disney Animation Studios, I've never heard of a re-release making more than a billion. They'd lose a (debatable) 7 billion on this move alone.
You are now aware that James Cameron will spend his last years making a shitty series that will generate less and less profits and people will end up hating instead of doing sonething exciting and original and almost perfect like Aliens, Terminator or True Lies.
>>64080425
Its been that way for quite a while now
>>64081552
>Avatar isn't perfect
This isn't reddit you edgelord, back to your liberal containment site
>>>/reddit/
>>64078366
I doubt it, SW has a lot of fans WW, but i don't think it'll be enough to sustain long run, especially with holidays coming up, i feel like Avatar had insane results for like 2.5-3 months, i can see SW going for maybe a month
>>64079922
Avatar is one of the movies that was SO BIG that everyone talked about how huge it was and how you have to see it because everyone else already did, barely anyone actually talked about the movie.
>there are people that ACTUALLY think star wars has a chance of outgrossing even Titanic, let alone avatar
Do these people have no idea how the box office works?
Why was Avatar so fucking successful? It's not that good of a movie.
>>64079749
Avatar no contest, even with the stale story.
>>64081359
>>64081515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGR4tmgypKU
>>64081552
>61 years old
>will start pre-production for another movie in 2018 most likely
>Alita produced by him is on the way
>said he will die in the directors chair
>>64081681
3D done properly. It literally would have been a faint blip on everyone's radar if the cinematography weren't so gorgeous, the story was bland and the pacing was geologic.
>>64081681
>successful = good
name me one good movie that made $1b+
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/
Where the hell are they supposed to go with Avatar's story? Humans are either gonna join Na'vi yoga classes or raze and pillage the planet, the body transfer thing at the end of the movie would seemingly hold the key to clinical immortality.
>>64081799
I did not think the movie looked that good. I mean, there was interesting tech behind the scenes but I didn't think it looked exceptional on-screen.
>>64081828
>Jurassic Park
>Toy Story
>Return of the King
>>64080937
this still looks good even today
fucking amazing
>>64081515
They were filmed in 48fps, retard. Not interpolated.
>>64081879
>Avatar 2 plot
>Humans kill Eywa causing the mindrape abilities of the pandoran life to go away
>Suddenly every animal they domesticated goes apeshit
>No more Eywa makes the Na'vi panic and go nuts
>They start killing eachtother and think life has no purpose so go full edgemaster.
>Na'vi tribes go around murdering Pandoran life because Pandoran life has no purpose without Eywa at all
>One Na'vi tribe decides to learn more about the new Eywa less existence rather than destroy it
>Clashing tribes consider them insane and try to kill them
>It doesnt work
>Jake Sully is the leader of one of the nihlistic murdering tribes and his human moralfaggotry is annoying everyone there
>Tribe rejects Jake and says if he never came none of this would have happened
>Jake is now outcast on Pandora
>Meanwhile humans far away laugh at the chaos that is going on
>>64081359
Maze Runner 1 is the only 4K movie, but the cinemas got a 2K master
I bet they will fuck up & the 4K Blu-Ray will also be the 2K master
>>64081405
This.
I hate "muh fps" babbys. 48fps is one of the major reasons why Hobbit movies sucked, and Avatar 2 will suffer the same fate. I hope it's enough to sink this retarded idea.
>>64082110
how the fuck???
>>64082174
There is 100 reasons why Hobbit trilogy sucked, 48fps is not among them
>>64082232
europe (and china soon) are not into niggers nor sjw girl power themes
>>64082246
>48fps is not among them
You for real?
>>64082110
>>64082232
The world hates blacks but loves seeing American capitalists get their shit ruined.
>>64081253
>movie has to make six times its investment to be profitable
You people who vomit up "facts" like that me sick.
>>64080254
kek
>>64082120
It will be a literal rehash of the first one except the humans are even more fucking brutal. And somehow a bunch of primitives will win again; WITH THE HELP OF WHITE/BLUE MAN JAKE :) SULLY
No one wants to see anything else.
>>64080506
After one week Star Wars has only half the gross of Avatar? Avatar ran for 200+ days?
Man what a failure SW is going to be :^)
>>64082731
>half
Worldwide lifetime gross:
TFA: $793,451,329
Avatar: $2,777,223,601
possibly
