So you don't have to be force-sensitive to use a lightsaber now?
It's just a sword.
>implying Finn isn't force-sensitive
>>64051192
Han, Empire.
Saged for gay wars.
>>64051243
this
dont need to be space wizard to press a button, however you need to be one to master it.
Like when Han Solo sliced open a tauntaun 40 years ago?
>troll
>catfish bait
Or Finn is force sensitive
>>64051192
>force-sensitive
>>64051192
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Pretty much bait, but no, you don't
>>64051265
Seriously.
>>64051192
General Grievous wasn't force sensitive but he could use four lightsabers at once so...
>>64051400
>I'd settle for a good blaster
>chewie, a dog monster that can rip people in half with his bare hands, has his bowcaster, but decides not to use it
What is happening?
>>64051453
This. He had a pretty decent body count too.
>people have forgotten General Grievous exists just to talk shit about a trained soldier being able to barely hold his own with a sword
>>64051453
He was a cyborg.
He had a poorly coded midichlorian emulator.
>>64051192
Bait. But you never ever had to be force sensitive. Ever. There is nothing that ever suggested this at all.
>>64051192
You don't need eyes to drive a car.
>>64051400
>thinking any comic tie-in or video game tie-in is canon
>>64051524
Then why don't regular people use them?
>>64051524
Because lightsabers frequently turn off when the character wielding it is knocked down, some people developed a theory that lightsabers were not turned on by a button but the Force.
>>64051573
Why don't regular people use swords in 2015?
Anyway, vibroblades and staves are cheaper.
>>64051192
Andrew Shramburg was force-sensitive.
>>64051485
A previous page for what little context there is
>>64051535
Well, just about none of the games are canon. but didn't Disney say that everything made or published after they bought the rights was canon unless stated otherwise or something of that sort?
>>64051290
>People still not believing that Han was force sensitive
Why do you think he can understand chewie and was able to shoot Greedo? He used force speed.
You won't be able to deflect blaster shots so anyone who's not retarded would just shoot you.
>>64051691
>anyone capable of anything impressive in Star Wars must be a latent Jedi
i remember someone having a light saber where you need the force to turn it on because the switch is inside it.
>>64051573
ANH novel has Obi-Wan stating they were commonly used throughout the galaxy but fell out of use because blasters were easier to use as weapons.
>>64051192
Why the hell would you need to be? It's just a shitty weapon without the force. You need the force to deflect blaster bolts, so if you're not force sensitive you'll just get shot dead.
You don't need the force to use a lightsaber, but you basically need it to create a proper lightsaber.
Kylo Ren was trained and he still made a shitty unstable one, the reason people don't use them more is because few people can actually make them and the crystals are rare too.
you idiots know that han solo used a lightsaber in the old movies right
>>64051773
this. its not an effective weapon in the hands of a non-force user.
>>64051689
That makes ""sense"" I guess, thanks anon.
Of course it only raises the question of why R2-D2 made of lightsabers?
>it's the force, I ain't gotta explain shit
>dude, midichlorians!
It's just a fucking sword.
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>>64051573
What practical use would a normal person have with a lightsaber besides being a really efficient lumber jack?
If I wanted to keep a weapon on me and I could casually choose between a lightsaber and a blaster, I would choose the blaster.
Lightsabers are cool and super deadly when used right, but only those who have trained in the ways of the force could ever have a hope of using it efficiently. Only those with force training could deflect blaster shots reliably and prevent self harm with the weightless blade.
Also, i always thought that only the more skilled force users could create lightsabers to begin with, hence why not just anyone can have one.
>>64051400
> Han's face
All it needs is a Costanza.jpeg background to be perfect.
>>64051964
You're basically saying the same thing Han did in A New Hope.
>>64052002
>it's true.... all of it.
>i die cuz i failed as a parent
everyone start doing the "i'm han solo" dance with the updated lyrics
>>64051980
This
>>64051898
I don't think it's ever explained where he got all of them from, the Star Wars comics are all pretty shitty honestly, starting way back in issue 1, especially if they're meant to be canon in some way
What I'd really love is for TR-8R to come back.
Have him reunite with Finn and buddy up with Rey and fight against Keylo Ren and Snoke.
>>64051689
This is my kind of stupid.
>>64051980
>>64052062
>30 years ABE (After Battle of Endor)
>ISHYGDDT
>>64051453
speaking of, why didn't obi wan just use the force to pick him up and throw him off a cliff since he couldn't use the force?
>>64052530
What makes this question even more relevant is that minutes before obi-wan used the force to launch grievous five stories into the air and slammed him into some metal girders
>>64052530
Use the force. To pick him up. ABOVE him.
Why would obi wan voluntarily give Grevious the high ground? That's madness
>>64051192
No, you just have to be force sensitive or have near-superhuman reflexes to use one effectively. We never really see Finn do anything that impressive with it, he fights another stormtrooper then gets destroyed by a poorly-trained, badly wounded sith.
>>64052530
>>64052747
In the clone wars cartoons, they show him basically digging those claw things on his feet into the ground, keeping him from getting thrown around. But then the movie completely ignores that by having Obi-Wan launch him.
>tfw Episode III ruined yet another decent character
>>64051691
Force speed helps him speak Wookie?
>>64053228
What do you think the wookie written language looks like?
>>64052530
he is supposed to be faster than the force or some shit, but then the movies ruined him
>>64052530
Because he was a good friend
>>64054689
>faster than the force
If a blaster bolt isn't "faster than the force" then how the fuck is grievance
>>64054811
no idea, it was in the cartoon
How did he even land a hit on Kylo, I get he got shot but come on JJ.
>>64051192
This and you don't need any traine with it also.
>>64054930
I'm guessing some of it had to do with Anakin's lightsaber being an authentic one, thus more maneuverability (Kylo's was made by him and is a shabby remake of a sith one at best)
And yeah, being injured played a large role in it too
>>64054930
If only the movie had foreshadowed Kylo being stronger in the force when calm and worse when he's upset, that certainly isn't in the movie at all nope.
>>64054930
>kylo is toying with him
>kylo stops attacking more than once, it's a game to him
>gets hit once
>instantly ends it after that
What's your problem? It's basically the end of the Empire duel.
>>64055344
This. Kylo didn't think Finn was any real thread until he got hurt by him. The fight with him and Rey was more raw.
>>64051573
Because only the Jedi and Sith know how to make them, and the Jedi don't like giving up their toys.
>>64051400
>Chewbacca dual wielding lightsabers
actually, I'm quite alright with this
>>64051689
Can't believe they did this bullshit
So R2 carries lightsabers all the time, just in case?
I remember Lucas saying Lightsabers are really really heavy because of the gyrospastic effect. Only force users can control them.
>>64051964
>Also, i always thought that only the more skilled force users could create lightsabers to begin with, hence why not just anyone can have one.
They also need the proper ingredients and "blue-prints"
There's also the fact they were made illegal by the Empire, so that plays a part.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1dxbcd0fkY
>>64051243
Not just a sword. The blade of a lightsaber would have no mass making it incredibly difficult to fight with without being force sensitive. At least, that's what I used to assume.
This is the kind of damage the prequels did to people.
The lightsaber is just a fucking melee weapon. I'm glad it was subdued in TFA compared to the jedi whipping them out every 10 minutes in the prequels.
>>64051290
>comparing using it to slice a standing object to using it to fight a guy trained in combat
>b-b-ut he was wounded even if he was doing moves that no wounded people would be able to pull off
>>64054930
Don't you get it? His overconfidence is his weakness.
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>>64053228
It isn't a bunch of roars. It's just english sped up quickly by burly lumberjacks.
>>64056007
pretty much this, lightsabers just bring the guy from yojimbo into space, making them magic killsticks like in the prequels is dumb
>>64051980
It's not perfect, but ah well
>>64056241
BASED ANON
>>64056182
>>64051573
Because they can't build them
Are these not obvious answers or are you all retarded??
>>64051513
This barely koalafies man
>>64051192
Nope! That weapon that was supposed to be a special and tremendously powerful weapon of a legion of space knights who used magic is so easy to use and trivial that someone who doesn't even use the Force can go toe to toe with a trained and experienced user of the weapon after having a couple swings with it himself and then another person who literally just picked the weapon up at that moment can defeat the trained swordsman!
No one ever said in any of the films you had to be forced sensitive to use one of those things.
/TV/ has downs.
>>64051192
You never did. Cite to me where in a canon material it says only force-sensitve people can use lightsabers. I'll wait.
>>64056445
My phone keyboard also has downs.
>>64051192
You never did.
some have switches on the inside so non force users cant turn them on other than that anyone can swing one.
Using one proficiently is another story
>>64056007
But the prequels were the ones that showed it as just some weapon. The original trilogy had Luke and others only pulling out their lightsabers as an absolute last resort, and the purpose of the kendo style fighting was to portray them as weapons of immense power.
In the prequels they pull them out and flood the screen with them spinning around like nothing.
>>64051243
It's more like a flashlight.
As a test, go ahead and turn on a flashlight and swing it around like a lightsaber with one hand and see how long you last without having the beam accidentally touch a part of your body.
>>64055956
The weight of a weapon is a limitation unless you're using it to smash things.
>>64056564
>and the purpose of the kendo style fighting was to portray them as weapons of immense power.
Probably because Jedi where hunted down, if you were to shot it in public you would have the entire imperial local force trying to capture/kill you.
>>64056612
Use it like a sword and you won't do that.
>>64056322
>>64056641
not a swordfighter off course but just thought that the weight of the blade would give the wielder a feel for what he's doing, where the blade is, still not swordfighter so what do I know
>>64056390
>kylo beats the shit out of finn
>how come finn is so good with a lightsaber!
seriously watch >>64054930 and read >>64055344
What's your complaint again?
>>64056641
The weighting of a weapon is part of its balance, and a well balanced weapon is intuitive to use because of your natural understanding of physics and the forces you impart on objects. A sword with a weightless blade is about as unintuitive as it gets, and it also affects your ability to track the object in relation to yourself. Normally you get feedback from the weight of the weapon shifting in your hand as it's swing about.
>>64056678
Yeah, you fucking will, go ahead and test it out. Even if you hold it with two hands it'll be about thirty seconds before you accidentally "cut" the top of your head off with the beam of light. Now imagine trying to manage that while combatting someone.
>>64055344
>>64055530
Not this at all. You faggots need to get your shit together.
Either you say "B-but Kylo lost because he was injured and bleeding all over the forest! He couldnt fight the best he can!"
Or "He was just toying with him, because he is such badass and he had situation under control the whole time!"
Gotta pick one. Or if you want to claim both so bad at least admit its shit writing.
>>64056813
>What's your complaint again?
Did you not read the post?
I hate this new meme.
>>64056678
You've never actually used a sword have you?
>>64056867
Did you not read the post? Watch the clip. If you still want to say Finn is going "toe to toe" with Kylo then you're an idiot.
>>64056857
>Gotta pick one. Or if you want to claim both so bad at least admit its shit writing.
What the fuck is wrong with Kylo being better than Finn easily but losing to Rey because of the wound and Rey's force power? You'd agree from what the movie shows us that Rey should do better than Finn in this fight, right?Those are different explanations for different characters you pleb.
I never said Kylo beat Finn because he got shot. Don't put words in my mouth.
>>64057177
>Watch the clip.
The clip doesn't impact or change the truth of my post whatsoever. Finn stands against him and even gets a hit in, and then Rey absolutely beats him. Both on day one or even minute one of lightsaber usage.
>>64051192
My mom Schmi Skywalker died in a sand nigger incident 3 years ago. She's dead and gone. Sang niggers are her least favorite race. I'm gonna slaughter them like animals.
You don't have to be a Jedi Master to be on the Jedi Council. I'm on the Jedi Council.
My other good friend Sleazebagggano is on death sticks again. He's back in rehab for his 16th time. Good luck with that one.
Sick of the bullshit. Sick of all this shit. I don't podracing anymore cause I hate every mother fucker I don't care what they're up to. 14 year I wasted. Swinging at laser bolts at the Jedi Council. Chit chattin' with fucking virgins. Now I stay at home like a fucking hermit.
Not gonna take any shit from anybody. I know what's going on. He got the high ground, I got jumped. Thank god Padme wasn't there to watch me get my fucking ass kicked. She would have probably wound up with a Jedi and probably went to jail. She has a big mouth.
I live for this shit, I love it. Bring it the fuck on. Payback's a bitch, motherfu-
>>64055344
second this. you see at :23 he moves away from the blow with ease and twirls his sabers. he wasnt trying at all
>>64051192
The force is in everybody faggot.
>>64056887
>You've never actually used a sword have you?
>>64051192
this is a major flaw
>>64057239
I'm talking about the clip, so can we just stick to Finn for now? I promise we can deal with Rey later. The clip shows how fucking stupid what you say is.
>Finn stands against him
>Finn goes toe to toe
Okay what are you trying to say with this? Just that he's fighting Kylo at all or that he's keeping Kylo at bay? One of those is fine and the other would be a problem I agree.
>and even gets a hit in
Then Kylo stops playing and disarms/paralyzing him immediately. I wasn't making a light comparison to Empire, that's exactly how that duel ends. Luke gets his hit on Vader's shoulder, Luke takes cover behind those little tower things, Vader cuts those down, Luke gets his hand chopped off. Are you saying that scene shows Luke being good enough to really fend off Vader? Do you think Luke was even close to Vader's level? That fight lasts more than 8 times longer than Finn did against Kylo. Finn did not last even a literal minute.
One of the things that really seals the Kylo playing around with Finn thing is Kylo lets him get up.
>>64057471
>I talk about things I've no clue about like I have first hand experience
How can a storm trooper rebel? I thought they were all clones, who were brought up to be completley loyal and not be capable of having thoughts about disobeying orders?
>>64057672
No they now train niggers and then are very surprised things dont go their way.
>>64057672
>How can a storm trooper rebel? I thought they were all clones
They aren't
>ho were brought up to be completley loyal and not be capable of having thoughts about disobeying orders?
Not only does this not ever work 100% on real people (especially with a sample size as large as all stormtroopers in VII) but even the clones in that canon cartoon had defectors.
>>64057672
clone troopers are different to storm troopers.
but yeah, finn was taken at the age of 5 and was supposedly brainwashed into being a storm trooper and fighting for the sith. absolutely no idea how brainwashing didnt work on him and how he was able to take the moral highground
>muh black do gooder model citizen
How come neither Kylo Ren nor Rei used force speed?
>>64055956
Is it ever stated in the canon that the blade has no mass? I know originally Lucas said that the blade was incredibly heavy and required two hands to use. Obviously that changed in sequels, but has it ever been officially stated that the blades are weightless?
>>64051192
Who's to say Finn isn't force sensitive? Just because he didn't instantly know he has it doesn't mean he isn't force sensitive.
Also, yeah it's just a hilt with a core and a button, anyone can press it
>>64056828
>>64056793
If it doesn't have mass you can practically move it around as if it wasn't there. Mass is a limitation, not a benefit.
>>64055795
The whole reason they used them was because blasters didn't work at the time.
Why the fuck does Chewie even need a weapon? He can rip the arms off guys
>>64054930
>Blaster hole in the middle of his abdomen
>Didn't even finish his Jedi or Sith training
>Spends more time throwing hissy fits than training his lightsaber skills
Numerous reasons
>>64057946
how come they dont jump and do flips either?
>>64058029
Well I mean not during fights but using the force to enhance your mobility is something even Luke did in the original trilogy.
>Finn uses a lightsaber
>Gets his ass kicked by TR-8R and is only saved at the last second by Han and Chewie
>Ren toys with him in their fight, gets a lucky slash in, then gets curb stomped when Ren decides to get serious
>This is considered a problem
>General Grievous is barely organic yet can wield four lightsabers at once and is basically a Jedi hunter
>Has a huge collection of lightsaber trophies of all the Jedi he killed
>Fought Obi-Wan effectively before attempting to flee to Mustafar as he was ordered to
>This is not considered a problem
>>64057947
Lucas never really had it consistent. I would go by how the prequels show it though, since it is the most recent.
>>64057888
clone deserter
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cut_Lawquane
clone traitor
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Slick
>first order is the sith
nope
There seems much more to Rey/Ben story.
Luke looks fucking PISSED when he sees Rey.
>>64056241
Much appreciated
Is Rey, Luke's daughter senpai?
Is /tv/ the most pathetic userbase on 4chan? The contrarian mental gymnastics regarding Star Wars: TFA is incredible and at the same time absolutely loathsome.
The constant denial, backtracking and moving the goalposts.
>"TFA will be shit! Fucking Jew Jew Abrams, fucking nigger main character, fucking SJWs! People won't accept this! It will be worse than the prequels and a total flop!"
>Trailer drops. Record pre-sales, screenings booked out months in advance. Hype incredibly high.
>"I-i-t'll still be a flop! Guaranteed to be shit! Phantom Menace sold well too before people realised it was shit! N-nigger character!"
>TFA releases. 5 star reviews, record opening day. People love based Johnny B's performance, and he's very well received.
>"o-ok it might not be as bad as we thought, but it's still not going to beat Jurassic World! Disney are finished!"
>Beats Jurassic World, despite being released in off-season and no Chinese release.
>"J-just wait until based RLM eviscerates it for being A New Hope ripoff in a Mr Plinkett review! You'll f-fucking see then Starfags!"
>Mike loves it. RLM approve and think it has saved the Star Wars franchise from the prequels.
>"FUCKING SHIT FILM, MARY SUE JEW SHIT. PREQUEL LOVE THREAD. WHO FUCKING LOVES ATTACK OF THE CLONES? I DO. REVENGE OF THE SITH WAS BETTER THAN ROTJ. BASED GEORGE LUCAS. WELL AT LEAST TFA WON'T BEAT AVATAR, I FUCKING SWEAR TO GOD PLEASE."
The mouthbreathing basement dwellers who strive to be contrarian have been backed into a corner really, they started so verbose. So confident that the film would be a flop, not break any records and would be panned by critics. Slowly as TFA has BTFO them on every conceivable level, they've been reduced to adopting some bizarre cult-like contrarian attitude to the prequels, proclaiming them as underrated gems, and trying to push some kind of narrative where if TFA doesn't beat Avatar, it's somehow failed, despite already being a record breaking movie and saving Star Wars.
MyEpisode IV A Newhope for this trilogy is that both Finn and Rei become Jedi by the end of it. I can't tell you how much I rolled my fucking eyes when Finn got beaten by Kylo but Rei picked up the lightsaber and won the fight.
>>64057980
So you basically just decided to ignore the facts presented to you.
Alright, I accept your concession.
>Stormtroopers were originally suppose to have lighsabers as weapons
>>64058214
Because if you watched Clone Wars, it's explained how Grevious could destroy jedi using superior tactics and only going in for the kill when they were tired and fearful.
>>64058352
I just don't care anymore. Whatever, fucking pretend to like shitty movies, it doesn't effect me. I'll just let new /tv/ act retarded. With how different it is now than it was even 4 years ago, I'm completely convinced that nearly the entire userbase is comprised of people who started posting here post-TDKR.
>>64058400
It made sense. Even after getting shot in the hip by a bowcaster, which they spent an entire battle scene emphasizing how powerful it was, he was toying with Finn when they had their lightsaber fight going so far as to torture him when he stuck the cross guard into his shoulder. It was only after Finn got that lucky slash in that Ren got serious, almost immediately disarmed Finn, and incapacitated him. When he went against Rey, who was also Force sensitive, did the crippling effects of his wounds become apparent.
>>64051192
They did say there was awakening, and it certainly wasn't Rey, wheres Kylo gives him a look at the village.
>>64058501
Why would I watch that shitty show?
>>64058595
I'm talking about the cartoon miniseries not the CGI kid show.
>>64058562
speaking of, can someone expand on this "awakening"?
Like, prerelease JJ talked about it as if suddenly the force was gonna get volatile and everyone's force powers would be abnormally strong but this never happens
That line seems really pointless as it doesn't seem connected to anything we're shown
>>64056241
>>64051980
there was one already made from /co/ i cant find it unfortunately, but i am sure someone will post it
>>64051243
This
Anyone could use a lightsaber, it was simply the jedi signature weapon because they could use it more effectively.
Also manufacturing required someone to use the force.
>>64056828
According to your logic we would have different perceptions of the location of differently weighted swords. The reason swords are balanced is because the weight needs to be toward the hilt to control its movement.
>>64056828
A sword shouldn't be pointed toward your body at any time. It should be in front of you and ready to defend at all times. Real swordsman do not fight as they do in movies.
>>64058542
But why would Rei be any better off than Finn? She uses a completely different style of melee weapon and she's definitely not as physically strong as Finn. I would have preferred it if she woke up and used force to help Finn then they fought in conjunction with Rei using force pushes and pulls and Finn swinging the lightsaber.
>>64058685
>Also manufacturing required someone to use the force.
There was a deleted scene in Return of the Jedi where Luke builds his own lightsaber, and he doesn't use the force.
>>64051691
Had Lando died in ROTJ it would have definitely suggested something.
>I just got a funny feeling. Like I’m not gonna see her again.
It should have foreshadowed the Millennium Falcon being destroyed.
Not that I'd want to lose her, or Lando.
It'd also explain why so many of the "I have a bad feeling about this" lines are from him.
>>64058663
Could be like KotOR where the main characters had their memories wiped and connection to the Force severed. Maybe Luke did that with his surviving trainees in order to protect them before he peaced out and only now are those connections to the Force being reestablished.
>>64058810
You need to be Force sensitive to find the right crystal, which are also attuned to the Force, for your lightsaber to match your identity. It's why Ren knows that lightsaber's is Anakin's.
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>>64058744
see>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5QQs4rURGM
>>64058813
Then again (and I should have posted it in this post) it would be interesting if Han's inklings of foresight actually suggest that anybody has a bit of a touch with the Force, it's just that not everybody actually nurtures it and trains with it.
>>64058927
>It's why Ren knows that lightsaber's is Anakin's.
Or he could have just seen it before because it literally runs in the family.
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>>64058666
found it, the power of trips helped.
>>64056612
You don't flash a torch on and off
It's a torch you Mexican illegal immigrant
>>64052069
It literally shows R2 going up to a table covered in lightsabers in Grakkus' hall of Jedi shit. Right before he gives them to the group.
>>64058959
That lightsaber had been missing since Luke got his hand cut off and dropped it in Cloud City, which happened three decades before TFA.
I find Kylo Ren's devotion to an ancient religion quite sad.
Did anyone notice Han shooting the stormtrooper without looking? That seemed pretty forcey to me. I assume his luck is mild force sensitivity.
>>64056644
Yet Obi Wan whips it right out in the cantina to chop off some guy's arm while Storm Troopers are literally right outside.
>>64058975
Damn it, beaten to the punch.
>>64051586
i think i remember that they can be built either with a switch or by the user implementing a safety so only they could turn it on with the force
>>64051192
You don't have to be force sensitive to use a lightsaber. Andy Samberg uses a lightsaber.
>>64051192
You never had to be.
>>64055956
>what i would assume
it's a universe with space wizards and magic why would you assume their universe uses the same laws of physics as ours
>>64058810
Assembling with the force is just for shit and giggles
But at some point, finding, focusing and attuning the crystal is quite a big deal and could need deep meditation.
Look at their pilots.
>>64056758
>>64059183
>why would you assume their universe uses the same laws of physics as ours
The fact another universe has different laws of physics is beyond me, but this is the only explanation i've got for hyperspace, interstellar communication and sounds in deep space
Why do people keep forgetting about based Pre Vizsla?
a lightsaber is just a sword. didnt han use one in empire to open the tauntaun?
DUDE SCIFI EGALITARIANISM LMAO
>Yfw you realize lucas was redpilled for introducing the concept of hereditary force aka midichlorians which only whites could get
>>64056090
Finn was trained in the Imperial Academy, they all have to learn hand to hand and close quarters weapons to leave the academy.
Literally anyone can use a light amber but only force sensitive use it because without the force guiding your movement with it you WILL cut yourself
>>64059761
>Lucas turns the Force into some genetic thing that can be measured, negating all of the mythos behind it
>Goes a step further in the show by making midichlorians a fucking species
>>64059792
>without the force guiding your movement with it you WILL cut yourself
But General Grevious used 4 at once
Boba Fett used one in the EU
They never cut themselves.
They don't use the force to stop themselves from getting cut, they use it to predict the moves of their opponents.
>>64056238
They weren't "magic killsticks" you stupid cunt
They're concentrated beams of pure fucking energy so when they hit you you're literally having the heat on the level of liquid Carbonite slicing through you.
There were seriously only three people with lights ayers in the original trilogy so of course it was seen less especially since one of those three was killed even before the half way mark in the first movie.
God you autists are stupid
>>64059919
Even then lightsabers were seen as a relic of a time long past.
>>64054930
Ren looks so edgy
>>64058980
>>64058980
Pic related is a torch
We are talking about flashlights, an American invention. And in American English it's called a flashlight, stop trying to be edgy and speak properly
>>64059706
Because that sorry excuse for a show isn't star wars is trash just like your opinion
>>64059830
>Goes a step further in the show by making midichlorians a fucking species
Lucas did not okay that, when they did that he wasn't even a consultant anymore
>>64059901
>But General Grevious used 4 at once
That's because he was a machine and therefore could aptly use them
>Boba Fett used one in the EU
He's also easily one of the best duelists in the Galaxy, if you have stick based weaponry training you can use them but doing anything other than very rigid movement without years of practice will fuck you sideways
>They never cut themselves.
>They don't use the force to stop themselves from getting cut, they use it to predict the moves of their opponents.
>>64051192
Han used one in Empire. And no he's not force sensitive. Grievous also isn't force sensitive, but used them all the time.
>>64060036
Almost two decades is a long time in tech years and in military grade hardware period
>>64058233
>I would go by how the prequels show it though, since it is the most recent.
>I would go by the trilogy that is essentially non-canon.
You are a fucking idiot.
>>64060243
>American
>English
Pick one
Btw how's the TAPwater taste from your faucet?
>>64051192
Finn is force-sensitive. In fact anybody that can handle a lightsaber in an actual fight with any degree of skill whatosever is. You have to be, or you'll cut your own limb off. They clearly implied Finn is force-sensitive in the movie at several different points.
>using a lightsaber
>a few scenes where he pistolwhips a stormtrooper he couldn't see
>few other situational awareness cues which I can't remember off the top of my head.
>inb4 Han used one in V and Grievous wasn't.
Yeah he used it to cut open a fucking Taun Taun not fight. And Grievous was a droid who didn't do much other than spin them anyway.
>>64060552
>>64060432
Where do you guys get the idea that you have to be force sensitive to use a lightsaber?
>>64051960
this
>>64060432
see >>64058948
there is no reason for someone using a lightsaber to cut themselves
>>64060636
He flailed around a stick as a kid and uses that as proof that there is no way to use a sword without cutting yourself.
>>64060636
Because there were a shit-ton of Jedi before Order 66 and after that there were two, and everybody who died had a lightsaber. Why aren't people using lightsabers?
Also it just makes sense. Lightsabers are (I imagine) lightweight and yeah, it's a meme, but without having a "sixth sense" they would be impossible to wield safely.
>>64060552
Finn foresight isn't nearly good enough for him to be force sensitive at all. He made a terrible gunner both times in the TIE and the falcon.
>>64060757
After Order 66 many Jedi survived, but the empire hunted them down. This is shown in Rebels.
Also it makes sense that lightsabers are jedi weapons sure, but not that only Jedi are capable of using those weapons.
>>64060791
yes he was, but iirc so was Luke. and he's shown himself to be excellent with a handheld gun. like that anon said, in the battle of Maz's Palace a stormtrooper fixes aim when Finn has his back to him several meters away, and Finn instantly turns around and shoots him first.
stormtrooper aim obviously is still present, so it can't be attributed to imperial training
>>64060878
I may have implied otherwise, but I agree that a lightsaber is not absolutely a purely force-sensitive weapon. But for a normal person to effectively fight with it they would need training. Which Finn didn't have, and he handled himself fairly well.
>>64057981
Wookiees have a strong cultural thing where using your claws and acting like a feral beast is very, very frowned upon. Chewie is a civilized space sasquatch.
>>64060312
>just like your opinion
Kek.
Also The Clone Wars is canon faggot
>>64051265
Came here to post this
