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Darth Maul Appreciation Thread
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHqdESArkqU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMylmOlot4g

The last fight of Episode 1 between obi wan, qui gon, and darth maul is still arguably the best light saber fight in the whole series.

>dat music
>dat choreography
>dem darth maul force kicks and being a general bad ass

there's just so much energy put in to this scene from all three actors(yes even liam neeson).

>it's so dense

it really is. you could probably find something new worth noting on every rewatch.

darth maul is so focused. one, or two jedi,
it doesn't matter to this guy. he will take them both on.
yeah it's a shame it was wasted for this movie, but it still holds up pretty strong.


tl;dr what's your favorite star wars duel and why is it episode I maul fight?
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Maul should've been what Dooku was.
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>>64028269
>people think theres no emotion in the prequels

Look at Obi-Wan's face just after Qui Gon dies. Ray Park is cool as fuck too, trained in martial arts I believe.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ3SPmmHKps

My favourite star wars duel is Luke vs Vader in Empire Strikes back because it's actually pretty good. Return of the Jedi's followup was okay, but a little too one sided.
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>>64028358
Literally every fight in every movie is like this.

Dunno what this guy was trying to prove
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>>64028269
He was just a plot device.
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>>64028358
When Luke is hiding in RoTJ, love that shot under the stairs when the music starts.
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>>64028387
Not true. In the original movies, the combatants tended to swing forcefully at their opponents bodies, only to have their blows parried.
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@ 3:17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RFYoZ7H67A
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>>64028582
God, Luke looks like such a faggot.
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Was it true that he was suppose to come back as general grevious in early drafts of episode 2?
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>>64028739
They were literallly making it up as they went along, so probably.
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>>64028269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw

go fuck yourself.
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While Darth Maul was pretty cool, his popularity shocked Lucas into making even more dumb decisions like turning all lightsaber fights into Chinese flicks.
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so /tv/, which movie has the best saber effects?

which movie has the best saber hilt?
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>>64028924
every movie is like that retard.

kill yourself
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>>64028958
7 had good saber fx

Obi Wan's in episode 2 imo
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Darth Maul was a great villain. People always give him shit because he never said anything, but that literally was he character- the silent intimidating enforcer. The only thing that could have made him better is if he was a recurring villain throughout the prequels and Obi Wan and him had a final fight in Episode III.

That being said, Luke vs. Vader in Return of the Jedi is still probably the best fight. Maul vs. Qui Gon and Obi Wan is good but a little too static and choreographed for my taste.
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>>64029073

Darth Maul is to Star Wars what Jaws is to James Bond. Lets not kid ourselves on his significance beyond that.
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>>64028963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-DeI3ohVbY

go to bed spergy.
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>those whispers right before Qui-Gon's death

Never noticed that.
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>>64028269
>The last fight of Episode 1 between obi wan, qui gon, and darth maul is still arguably the best light saber fight in the whole series.

no it's not, Luke vs Vader in Empire is still the best by a wide margin. the only neat idea in the whole Naboo fight was the random laser hallway thing (which unfortunately created a plot hole by contradicting the scene where the Jedi run away from the Droideka at super speed)

little babies who prefer dumb anime shit over thoughtful cinematography and blocking, please go.
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>>64028567
True, IIRC the guy who did highlander also did the choreography for OT. I think he was dead by the time PT came out so they got someone new
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>>64028269

>Obi-wan tries to strike him from above in the beginning of the duel

Why didn't it work?
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Is it starting? are we finally starting the "prequels were better than the new movie" meme?
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His light saber was bullshit, but I did like his character, and how he paced back and forth when that force field thing went up between him and Qui Gon, who was just sitting there meditating.
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They really should have given Darth Maul his own one shot movie. Honestly who the fuck wants to see a Han Solo movie where Han isn't even Harrison Ford? That slot should have gone to Darth Maul, a character that actually had room to expand upon and isn't one of the main characters in the fucking series and who wasn't originally played by a man now in his 70s.
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>>64029217
They are though?
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Maul was criminally underused, he could've served the same role as Dooku or Grievous in the sequels with Obi Wan finally facing and overcoming him. His anger towards Darth Maul could've even been shown to rub off on Anakin making his fall to the dark side more believable.
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Ep 7 saber battle is best in the series
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>>64029102
I more or less agree, but don't you think that makes him a great villain alone? He is very effective for what he is suppose to be. Of course, like I said before he probably could have been better if he was carried over all the way to Episode III.
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>>64029222

That was cool. He reminded me of a wild animal with prey cornered in a tree. It also really showcases the differences between Jedi and Sith approaches to using the force. Qui-Gon sits down and meditates, surppresses his emotions and feels the force flow through him. Maul paces back and forth, no doubt building up his passion and hatred and using it to channel the dark side. Honestly I find people who refuse to acknowledge the occasional strengths of the prequels (like the entire Darth Maul duel) are just fooling themselves.
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>>64029299
Maybe third best, I liked how the lightsabers gave off light and affected their surroundings but there wasn't enough emotional impact in the scene. The only character drama is that Rey has a meditation moment and unlocks her potential.
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>>64029299

>Oh no I'm losing to this clearly well trained and superior enemy!
>Nevermind lol I just thought about the force for a few seconds so now I win!
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>>64029390

>The only character drama is that Rey has a meditation moment and unlocks her potential.

The most hammy of hamfisted moments in Star Wars history
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>>64029259
Agreed. That's democracy for you. Everyone hates the prequels, so therefore that means anything within it. Darth Maul was mysterious, an expansion on his character and initial being would be glorious famfam.
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I still say Darth Maul was the best thing about PM.
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He is cool no doubt about it
But "Maul" is a stupid name

What is his real name?
If Sidious is Sheev and Tyranus is Dooku then what is Maul's real name?
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>>64028269
>the best light saber fight in the whole series.
You don't know what makes a good lightsaber fight.
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>>64029518
I bet you think 80+ year old men swinging swords around makes a good saber fight right?
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>>64029471

but muh luke destroying the death star
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How Obi-Wan did it? How did he knew about high ground mindset then?
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>>64028269
>made him a darth
>gave him a red lightsaber
booooo
I know EU did it first, but having every dark side user follow these two elements was stupid.
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>>64028269
Luke vs Vader in Death Star II is by far the best duel

>You have a... SISTAH
>If you won't turn to the dark side then... PERHAPS... she will
>Luke gets his jimmies rustled

Maul duel was shit desu, it bored me... they were three random dudes dancing, I didn't care for any of them
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>>64029559
No. But the Empire and Jedi duels are the best in the series, nothing even comes close to them. They're so far and away from anything in IV or the prequels there's not even any use in deciding which of the two is better than the other.

Darth Maul is just some asshole to these guys. The only thing interesting about it is Liam biting it, but then it ends with Obi-Wan just jumping over Darth Maul. I'm okay with toying with him over the pit, but it was stupid that Maul just watched him jump over and stab him.
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>>64029769
plus pic related
>Face is half in the light, half in the dark
>Right after that Vader mentions his sister and he goes so mad he almost kills his father

This is good cinematography, fuck those anime fights
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>>64028269
Episode one is the most underrated of the prequels. It has the best score and also the best villain introduced from the prequels,

EP V > EP IV > EP VI > EP VII > EP I > EP III > EP II
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>>64029924
Not bad pottery desu
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>ITT: 1990s babby's first Star Wars film

Maul was a character who was reduced to having a unique lightsaber to make up for his lack of personality and character arc.

I hate prequel apologists.
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>>64028739
Nah, Grievous wasn't planned until III. Boba Fett was supposed to be in III though.
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>>64029806
Not that guy. I agree, with respect to emotion. I enjoyed the prequels as an early teen due to the stupid but entertaining saber fights, but I would watch the originals for story. I'm happy that George went with a polar opposite. A rehash over 3 movies would have failed at the box office within that time. Compare the movies at the time to Star Wars, lotr, the matrix, etc.. He had to change it.
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>>64029561
GETTING PEGGED BY FINN DECTECTED
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Maul vs Obi/Qui-Gonn

Luke vs Vader on Death Star

Kylo vs Finn/Rey

All the best fights and unique in their own way. The rest is just opinion. I will saythough that Obi had more emotion in watching Qui-Gon die than the entire time he fought Anakin.
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>>64028582

Uno Farto??
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>>64029500
Senpai'pai
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>>64029561

T16

womp rats

the Force

you know the rest
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>>64029500
Bob
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>>64029806

I'd say that the fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan in Sith has quite a bit of emotional weight to it. I mean sure high ground is dumb but McGregor really carries it with his performance.
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>>64030365
>sure high ground is dumb
heeeeeeeeeelllo reddit!
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>>64030148
kill yourself gramps
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>>64029184
Obi-wan was only JUST starting to learn about the high ground.
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>>64030273
per te
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>>64030148
No one disagrees with that. Would you rather this fight never took place? Of course you would. You hate it, but you still love it babes. If you dislike the prequels you're not a Star Wars fan, you can't Disney your way out of this.
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>>64029500
>Sheev: "Maul, uou have completed your training as a Sith."
>"Henceforth, you shall be known as Darth....Maul."
>Maul: "...What?"
>"Riiiise!"
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>>64029261
Thank disney and all the mindless prequel hate for a shitty soft reboot mirroring the OT.

Just one of the many things. Whole Republic senate got blown up with trillions of people? Let's just ignore that and pretend it didn't happen. Also 2 Death Stars destroyed by poorly defended weakpoints? Let's just add the biggest and dumbest we've seen. Also never mind that they had to get the so important DS plans in ANH. We've a janitor nigga that knows his shit.

I could go on with many many things such as the shitty characters but I'd rather go do something productive.

This shitty trilogy is on you OT fags.
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>>64030365
>McGregor really carries it with his performance.

YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE, ANAKIN!

YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO CARRY THIS SCENE, NOT DESTROY IT!
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>>64030607
YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY WOODEN ACTING!
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>>64030583

>Coruscant getting blown up
>another bigger, blacker Death Star
>Mary Sue McGee is your new Jedi

I reject VII
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>>64030607
>I HATE CHOOO!
>REEEEEEEEEE

It's like Obi took all his chicken tendies away
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>>64030660
(X) HATE OBI WAN
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>>64030607
Damn, Ewan is so based.

What other actors were as memorable?

>how's the pie?
>SO GOOD
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>>64030551
lol
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>>64029471
Did anyone else think that Rey's choreography was not nearly as well-executed as Finn's?
We go from Finn x Kylo which was actually pretty good, to the slow-mo basic moves in both phases of the Rey x Kylo fight.
Putting both scenes directly after one another invites comparison, and I was really let down by the much tamer second fight.
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>>64030733
Her awful choreography was to mimic Sheevs. You thought all those stiff thrusts were by accident?
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OFFICIAL SITH POWER RANKINGS:

>1. Tyranus
>2. Sidious
>3. Vader
>4. Maul
.
>9001. Kylo Ren
>9000000000001. Gollum
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>>64030661
Is it proven to be Coruscant yet? It's also cute that people are comparing a two hour movie vs over three hour movie prequels. Lets see JJ direct without the shaky camera to redirect eyes for over three hours, he couldn't do it. He relies on his shitty techniques.
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>>64030803
The planets and the system it was apart of is called Hosnian Prime. It wasn't Coruscant.
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>>64030777
Y'know anon, I really did. I'm not a very smart man, so could you continue the metaphor for my sake?
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>>64030803
Glad someone else is directing VIII episode.
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>>64030798

okay. what about jedi rankings?
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>>64030853

Should I keep faith in Johnson righting this ship

I want a compelling movie that doesn't downright disrespect the OT by emulating it in the worst way possible
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>>64030849
It was just something I noticed and confirmed with a friend. I then saw the theory on /tv/ Rey could be the force baby of Sheev. No other real reason than that.
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>>64028269

Wasn't it said that Qui Gon was really restricted by the narrow hallways off that area because of his saber style using wide swings or something?
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>>64030869

OFFICIAL JEDI POWER RANKINGS:

>1. Obi-Wan
>2. Luke
>3. Qui-Gon
>4. Yoda
>5. Finn (tentative)
>6. Nick Fury
.
>9001. the hordes of other irrelevant Jedi from the prequels
>900000001. Rey
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>>64030869
1. Obi-Wan in his prime
2. Luke
3. Yoda
4. Windu
5. Anakin
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>>64030961
>obi wan
>above yoda
"no"
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>>64030909
Even if this holds to be true I don't think I can really learn to like that scene.
My unhappy suspicion is that Disney threw all these promising new actors into VII because they had a bunch of rich kids in the Mickey Mouse club and had to turn them into stars to be able to make a profit. I can't help but feel like Rey, Finn, Kylo, and whatever that psuedo-hitler admiral was named, were all just shoehorned in because disney.
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>>64030961
How could you forget George Lucas' kid saving Bail Organa from the clone troopers?
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>>64030934
that's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard
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>>64030961
>Qui-gon
>Above anyone
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>>64030173
Prequels are mindless action if I don't care or like the characters even a little. So because I can't give a fuck about the stakes or characters it detracts from the fights. I think the saber battles are overdone, but the space and vehicle shit is mostly really fun to watch in II and III.

>McGregor really carries it with his performance.
I agree it could have been an emotional fight. I mean how Anakin fell was stupid and they never really seemed like friends but there was a relationship there and it was at stake.

My problem with that fight is how over the top and even ridiculous it is. Three things specifically really bug me about it. Swinging from cables. I don't doubt their ability to do it and fight but it's just so contrived. The platform they're on breaks off, becomes a kind of lava boat but they're still having like a vertical fight on it and it goes over a lava fall. A fucking lava fall. But don't worry because they start surfing on robots. They even have a close up of the droid with just anakin's boots in frame and it rises up a little looks around and drops it's bucket. What the fuck, why? Is that humor? But it's really just the idea that the famed Obi vs Vader duel, the duel to be the greatest in all of star wars history, had Darth fucking Vader surfing on a little lava droid like the sewer bonus level in Turtles in Time. It's literally video game shit.
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>>64031148
>VADER JUST PIERCES BEN
>BEN JUST DISAPPEARS LIKE IT WAS A HOLOGRAM NOTHING PERSONNEL ANAKIN
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>64029500
>There is much speculation as to Darth Maul's real name, but common consensus seems to hold that his birth name was either Khameir Sarin or Manuel Gonzalez.
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>>64031277
>being this much of a pleb

Even Vader reacts to this mystified. How does are you son?
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>>64028269
Was Darth Maul a character in episode one? I thought he was just a twirling, sentient light saber. Not like he had any personality or anything.
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>>64030720
Ewan was pretty much the only person trying in the prequels, besides Based Christopher Lee and Sheev.
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>>64031148

I understand your point, but I do find it kind of ridiculous that people constantly complain about how the prequels don't have enough action but when there's an action sequence suddenly there's too much action.
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>>64031148

before ep II they go on so many adventures together, spend so much time together, I think seeing padme for the first time after so many years triggered his rebellious teen side. after that it all goes down hill pretty much.
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>>64030497
>If you dislike the prequels you're not a Star Wars fan

Kill yourself you millennial piece of shit
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>>64031472
hello reddit!
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>>64031148
The fight with Obi-Wan and Anakin was absurd, definitely. The acting inbetween with Ewan and Hayden was decent, I thought. Swinging from cables and jumping on platforms was ridiculous and not needed.
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>>64031483

They were two fighters with identical styles. The conventional approach was going nowhere. So they got creative and in the end the only delimiting factor was Anakin's rash nature.
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>>64031472
It's true. Provide every reason for hating the prequels?
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>>64030961
>Qui-gon Job
>above anyone in terms of combat and making good decisions

Windu is the greatest lightsaber duelist, Yoda the greatest Force master.

Obi-wan is an excellent balance of both and Anakin had the potential to be the greatest of all time, the Kanye of all Jedi.
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>>64031472

TRAITOR.
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>>64030396
Fuck off millennial scum. Go watch Yoda do some flippy shit some more in the prequels because "LOL who needs a story and a character arc!"

Cancerous fuck.
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>>64031531
Obi is just the greatest baiter of all time. He baited Maul into a false sense of security till he chopped him in half. Baited Anakin into jump he couldn't make. Then baited Vader into turning him into a force ghost that would benefit Luke throughout the trilogy.
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>>64031537
>apparent mature adult
>frogposter

Off yourself, wizard.
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>>64031537

Tbh the story in the prequels was way better. Sheev's behind the scenes manipulation and engineering a galactic war is way more interesting than generic tyrants vs freedom fighters dynamic. Aside from the fun parts like space battles and shit the only genuinely unique and interesting thing about the OT's story is Luke's relationship with Vader.
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>>64031611
would obi wan be a good MOBA player?
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>>64031389
Basically space fights are cool because all you need is to know who the good guys are.
Jedi action is dumb because that's reliant on characterization to make me care.

>>64031401
great fanfiction you got there, maybe you can add in shemale twileks and post it somewhere someone who cares can read it

>>64031483
Ewan was good overall. The dialogue was still shit, but Ewan was great so it just comes off fine to good. Hayden's only good line is the "hate choo" one and every other line, literally ever line aside from "hate jews" after obi-wan confronts him with padme is fucking terrible. Both writing and acting are terrible, though I suspect it's george's fault in directing the actors. Hamill, Ford, and Fisher have said as much about the OT.
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>>64031537
You're not a star wars fan if you didnt like the prequels.

Literally kill yourself nobody likes you
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>>64031611
The Jedi Master Baiter.

I think the reason Obi is my favorite character in the series with Luke a close second is simply because he isn't a complete and total idiot like 90% of other characters. No decision he made was poor or out of character/forced in any of the films.
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>>64028269
Darth Maul did oithing wrong. Glad he's still alive
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>>64031709
>great fanfiction you got there

expanded universe, bro...the light novels..
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>>64031709
The HATE CHOO line is ridiculous but is pretty much the only time in the series where Christiansen shows any kind of earnest emotion without looking angsty and like he has to take a shit.

I'm sure a lot of it is Geroge's fault, but hey, the kid still can't act and E-Mac had to do A LOT of heavy lifting as far as acting goes to make the prequels even watchable.
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>>64031837
>the books
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>>64031825
Source on this? If he's alive, how old is he?! Where is he?
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>>64031016

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Form_IV:_Ataru
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>>64031893
I hated that line. Of all the complex emotional things Anakin could have said. He spurts out something a 5 year old tells his 10 year old brother after getting slapped in the face.
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>>64031016
>>64031928
>There's a whole wiki dedicated to explaining a prequel fight

Prequel apologists know no bounds.
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>>64031915
The clone wars cartoon. His last appearance was in Son of Dathomir comic where Sheev kills his mom.
He is also the leader of militant Mandalorians.
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>>64031938

Well he, uh had just lost both his legs and was probably very hot
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>>64031928
I don't know how that makes it any less dumb

He's a movie character, not a videogame one
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>>64028269
I liked that these fights were more intense, they were a lot younger after all
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>>64031938
>>64032120
you could say he was a hot head?
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>>64032086
You feel the love of the prequels deep inside of you, feel it, let it flow through you. Become your true self.
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>>64032197
He wasn't suffering from a concussion. The best we got was Lucas writing down "I hate you" and Hayden's delivery. Which you know Lucas made him redo about 14 times.
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>>64031938
>>64031938
I liked it precisely for that reason.

It was a culmination of all of Anakin's negative emotions directed at the person who (very reluctantly, yet with horrific efficiency) defeated him and whom he was the closest of friends with, who literally taught him all he knew.

It was exceptionally juvenile and petty and completely driven by raw emotion, devoid of all reason (Anakin still tries to literally claw his way to Obi-Wan after ). An Order that trained its practitioners from a very young age to control emotions and the most powerful and selfish one that betrayed that Order is showing why he was never fit to be there in the first place, while the paragon of the Order, the one who balanced his emotions with logic more than any other character in the series, is weeping how at how low his former pupil and best friend has fallen, and how he was forced make him fall to this low point.

Obi-Wan is the best developed character in the entire series.

Prove me wrong.
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>>64032334
The intention was pity, but the delivery was pitiful. Kylo simply yelling "TRAITOR" at Finn had more emotion than Hayden's line and delivery. Obi/Ewan are one of the few real reasons to re watch the prequels t b h f a m
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>>64031938
Reminder that Anakin never knew his father, Darth Snoke. He was portrayed correctly as a man trapped in time and immaturity.

>my father left me so I can project
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>>64032334

Everyone with taste has known that Obi-Wan is the best character forever.
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>>64032422
As I said before, Based Ewan was the only one actually putting in any acting effort in the Prequels.

It's still my favorite fight of the series.
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>>64031903
OMG, them fucking teeth
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The prequels are emotionless garbage, the new movie overall story is unoriginal, this franchise is shit post OT.
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>>64030696
I couldn't resist.
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>>64032465
Based Ewan. Dude is so down to earth. Good Scot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIAgELk-P6w
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They should of kept Maul around and not killed him in the first movie.
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>>64033261
would've been nice to have maul injured or missing an arm, then suddenly surprise the audience and whatever jedi he's fighting by getting up and continue to fight to the death like some sort of blinded mad dog.
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>>64028655
you can't blame him. luke wanted to do more fancy moves with the choreographer like in the prequels, but george INSISTED that the lightsabers were to be 'heavy like exalibur'.
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his death was pretty groan-worthy but up until that point it was good.
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He's so good he never actually swings at his opponent, but merely above their head
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>>64033261
He should have taken Dooku's place in II and III.
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>>64033067
>"How much do they cost?"
>"They're 150 quid each!"
>that dead-pan 'nigga imma swing this like I'm Obi-Wan Motherfucking Kenobi, because I AM Obi-Wan Kenobi' smirk he gives as he starts a lightsaber duel with Chris O'Dowd

God I fucking love Ewan. He even still remembers some of the choreography. Those twirls were on point.
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>>64031668
>Tbh the story in the prequels was way better
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>>64028269
1st video. 55secs in.
>Dat Feint
Obi-wan da sheit nigga. Could have fucked maul 1v1 if he wanted to. was just having a master/student moment desu
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>>64033666
check thee behind me satan
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>>64028269
compare: the listless tard flailing of Farce Awakens
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>>64034453
2/10. shit bait
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>>64028948
His only crime was pander to the fans. He loves us all yet we give him so little credit. He made sacrifices to his vision(and merchandise) for all his child, yet we gave him no love.
BRAVO LUCAS
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOCiqcwbaHQ

The best
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>>64030995
John Boyega and Domnhall Gleeson are both pretty successful British TV actors, they have jack shit to do with Disney.
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>>64029365
I agree but.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z29OVZLbZk
In the end it didn't chance his fate
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>>64031514
>identical styles
They had literal opposite fighting styles
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>>64033067
>"That's Alec Guiness's one"
>Pick's Anakin's
Whatever you say Ewan.
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>>64028269
It got better when it was only Obi Wan vs Maul.
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qui gon died like abitch tho
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>>64036104
and why do the jedi only kill sith when they get all angry and shit.

light side a bunch of pussies.
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>>64036104
I agree. I'm pretty sure you'd fair far better against Maul
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>>64036262
thanks for the vote of confidence senpai
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>>64030798
>>64030961

why is sidious ranked so high, if finn is stronger tha mace windu? wat.
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>>64028269
even tho in 1 the sabers dont touch it's still the best choreo/best boss battle

7 has best fx, but it's the worst fight out of all

3 has all the best battles tho imo
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>>64034453
He isnt wrong. The PT gets a lot of shit. I do honestly think they were great movies. The scale of those films is what really sets it apart from the OT. It shows just how vast and diverse the republic was. It also show how the Jedi where so dominate and thought they were right on everything that they couldnt see the sith coming. Sheeves plan to eliminate the Jedi and at the same time take complete control of the republic while having support of all the galaxy was pretty fucking clever. He used fear to do it too and people gave into that fear. Fear to Hate to Suffering. The people were in fear of the trade federation which lead to the rise of the empire which lead to people hating the empire because of its dictatorial ways which then leads to the empire crushing anyone who questioned it aka suffering.
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>>64036968
>you share a board with these people
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>>64037050
?
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>>64036968
wasn't it also like a 1000 grand plan by the sith to take over the republic, like slowly gaining supporters over time?

i figured that's why in ep 3 palpatines all "I am the senate", because he had finally got in to a position where he had won over the majority of the senate.
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>>64030148
The movie is called the mother fucking Phantom Menace for a reason. That is the reason they didnt flesh out Darth Maul. There was no need to. Evil (dark side) just fucking showed up.
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>>64029299
64029299
I found it horrible.
The lightaabers seemed to weigh more than a steel sword. that was so ridiculous
>b... but they're untrained
she knows melee conbat and also you dont need training to strike somewhat fast.
alsi the fight was pretty predictable. they just kept attacking eachother and blocking. nothing visually or emotionally interesting. that fight didnt even need coreography. if you just gave 2 people sticks they would make up a more interesting lightsaber battle
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ZOMG DARTH MAUL THE BEST VILLIAN EVER SO BADASS

>why btw

THE DESIGN IS SO COOL AND, YOU KNOW.... SUCH BADASS

>he literally didn't have a character

YEAH, NO HE WAS A COOL BADASS THAT WAS HIS CHARACTER
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>>64028387
its literally a cult to bash the prequels bro
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>>64030004
what a bland, inoffensive, reddit tier ranking
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>>64031148
this is bait
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>>64032422
youre literally face and emotion blind man
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>>64029217
But they are. Is that even worth debating?
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>>64037566

here's mine. rate me anon.

III > IV > V > I > VI > II > VII
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>>64028269
Shit character for 12 year old, shit movie and shit overchoreographed lightsaber fight
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>>64034814

We literally gave him billions of dollars to show our appreciation.
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>being a prequelfag
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>>64036968
>I do honestly think they were great movies
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but the best fight is objectively Luke vs Vader from RotJ
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>>64028355
He really is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhMHukjJ6Nw
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>>64032086
The make-up artists they used for Sheev in the prequels should be shot. He looks like shit compared to the OT.
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