I just realized that the reason so many people are up in arms about Rey beating Kylo isn't so much how inherently asspull it was, as that they all really liked Kylo and were mad that he lost.
Who KYLO here?? Easily my favorite character.
>>64028164
Why did people like Kylo? His tantrums? His bitchin Bane mask?
Kylo is a bitch and he has Disney villain syndrome where he's built up for the whole movie, but turns out to be a pushover.
Just like every Marvel villain ever.
>>64028366
DESU, I actually liked him for both those reasons.
>>64028366
yes and yes.
>>64028366
those + dope force powers and actually being a character
They will kick him up a notch in the next movie. He's more realistic because he has flaws. Even as a supposed bad ass Sith Lord he isn't perfect.
>>64028164
Here senpai
>>64028164
I wasn't mad about the fight (Kylo was injured you dumb niggers and it's likely that Rey has some suppressed training) but I did like him
that faggots on this board who are complaining about kylo come from the anime generation, they're just butthurt he's not a pretty Sephiroth edgemaster played straight
Kylo's flaws make him enjoyable.
Why did they hire a 30 year old guy to play what is basically an angsty 16 year old kid?
He's more like Dark Helmet than Darth Vader.
>>64028463
>>64028376
>angsty
>bitch
>murders his dad
b-but he's got emo hair
>>64028164
Don't worry /tv/ bro they will make him more competent in the next movies. Even JJ said they didn't want to make him a Vader type right away. They wanted to build up his character with a natural progression.
>>64028164
people are upset because they fail to realize that:
1) he got shot with a very powerful weapon they made sure to keep reminding us was hardcore as fuck
2) he wasnt trying to kill her in the first place
3) strong force powers do not mean good dueling skills
4) rey really was a mary sue, worse than young anakin
>>64028366
>His bitchin Bane mask?
Is this a new meme? Will every single person to ever wear a mask from now on be called Bane?
>>64028434
not a sith
I like him I just think it's stupid he lost to someone who literally just picked up a lightsaber.
>>64028164
>Liking Kylo
Literally the opposite of what the movie wants from you. I hate Kylo but love that he's so masterfully written.
>>64028463
>16 year old kid
He's confirmed 29 years old.
>>64028366
I liked him because he wasn't what I expected. I thought he was just going to be Darth Vader 2. Instead, he's a guy who REALLY wants to be Darth Vader 2, but secretly knows that he just can't pull it off, which is basically the most entertaining thing he could've been for me.
>>64028624
It's likely she was trained by Luke as well but had her memories wiped
>>64028657
that twitter embodies the plebs that misunderstand the character
any negative or conflicting emotions in a character is "emo"
>>64028726
That doesn't make it any less retarded
>>64028726
She was dropped off on Jakku in diapers m8
Must have been some intense training with her Fisher Price lightsaber
>>64028765
Do you remember the dumb shit with the prequel children?
>>64028749
I would normally agree with you if Kylo had a real reason to turn to the dark side. He idolizes Vader for all the wrong (alderaan) reasons. He's such a try hard with the dark side.
>>64028829
>if Kylo had a real reason to turn to the dark side
Power, ambition, etc? They'll probably explain it in the next movie, y'know, about Luke
>>64028868
>mindlessly wanting power
wow sure is 2nd grade in here
>>64028965
>Star Wars
>>64028164
Maybe you should make an "I'M GAY FOR KYLO" t-shirt and wear it around.
>>64028829
>I would normally agree with you if Kylo had a real reason to turn to the dark side.
Clearly he's fakin' it to do some 360 no-snokes
>>64028829
i want to think he probably wanted to learn more about the force, but luke denied him, so he went looking anyway and got seduced by snoke, then fucked by snoke, then brainwashed by snoke and taught the dark side of the force. but itll probably be something even worse than that and itll all be some plot to provide snoke with a strong body or something
>>64029077
>fucked by Snoke
>>64028164
Snoke should have been in the background with Hux
>>64029077
>provide Snoke with a body
When did Kylo become Sasuke?
>>64029120
could snoke beat madara?
>>64029120
When was Kylo ever NOT Sasuke?
>>64029178
what kinda madara you talkin?
Luke and Rey will have to fight all the Knights of Ren and Snoke at some point so they don't want each knight to be too powerful
>>64028164
>people bitch about the tantrums
>tfw I actually liked having a Star Wars villain that wasn't just some cool typically 'badass' silent type
>mfw I loved seeing him just lose his fucking shit and start trashing control pannels and shit with his lightsaaber when he gets screwed over
>>64028366
I like him because he's the only character who felt like he had any depth and genuine flaws to him besides Finn.
I actually want him to succeed more than Mary Sue Rey. If they do a redemption arc I'll be pissed because I actually want him to achieve his dream and become just like is grandpappy.
>>64028765
If we're going by KOTOR force mindwhiping, then they can give you fake memories too. I don't think there was anyone in the movie that knew how long she'd been on Jakku
>>64031352
What about Mr. HALF PORTION?
>>64028552
>new meme
>new
Dont worry, Kylo will probably get rebuilt and turned into a cyborg/vader esque man and he'll kick the shit out of Rey in the next movie.
>>64028441
>Kylo's flaws make him enjoyable.
This niga gets it.
>>64031352
I highly doubt Jew Jew's feminist fantasy has any explanation for her mary sue bullshit.
>>64031840
Isn't the next movie being done by somebody else?
Christ, I wouldn't want to have to be the guy that deals with that shit.
>>64029218
You mean Sephiroth Madara Grimbad Vader Darth Uchiha?
Kylo Ren, the guy who became a villain to rebel against his parents for getting a divorce.
>>64032302
Pretty sure it's the guy who did the writing for some Breaking Bad episodes and directed Looper. He doesn't have a lot of experience but it'll be interesting to see
>>64028164
>isn't so much how inherently asspull it was
I really don't understand what the problem with him getting his ass kicked was.
He just got shot by a blaster that we just saw send normal troopers tumbling through the air, killed his father, and got mentally rekt. Rey and Finn together barely won.
>>64028366
I always liked the idea of a dark side user with really bad anger problems
