>Be Jacen Solo
>turn to the dark side because his brother Anakin is killed
>Be Ben Solo
>turn to the dark side because who the fuck knows why?
Great writing guys...
he probably listened to too much Linkin Park.
>>64022222
the trilogy isnt even finished
We know why.
>>64022222
I will not allow these digits to go unchecked.
>>64022222
You're a retard. They hinted at Kylo's past. It's obvious that we'll get the full details in the sequels.
>>64023206
>They hinted at Kylo's past.
Such as?
asdasdasd
It's almost like they're saving that reveal for the next movie or something
>>64023273
>It's almost like they're saving that reveal for the next movie or something
Or the next 100 novels.
>>64023237
murdering jedi younglings
>>64023300
>murdering jedi younglings
But that doesn't explain why he did it.
His name should have been Kyle Solo. Then we get a flashback of him choosing his Sith name.
>>64023322
Leia literally says Snoke turned him to the dark side
>>64023329
He's not a fucking sith. Also, Kylo is a combination of sKYwalker and soLO.
Its fucking obvious.
>>64023329
And Ren isn't a sith name, he's part of the Knights of Ren. Which we know nothing about.
>mfw after this trilogy they'll release another set of prequels explaining everything
>>64023414
dat 30 year gap.
>>64022222
Snoke turned him to the dark side just as palpy did for anakin you dumb piece of shit
>>64023343
>Leia literally says Snoke turned him to the dark side
And he did this how?
>>64023414
POETRY
>>64023620
probably promised to make him as good as Darth Vader, he was a giant fanboy after all
>>64023273
"Saving"
>>64022222
>"LOL the stoopid writers forgot to write his backstory!"
It's like you idiots don't even realize there are more movies coming out.
>>64023620
The dark side is like a drug and can muddle your thoughts easily. Hell you could see Rey was tempted by Kylo in this movie.
>>64023693
>probably promised to make him as good as Darth Vader, he was a giant fanboy after all
And how did he learn about Vader?
>>64023760
Somehow this guy thinks this is a point in the movies favor lol
>>64023387
>Knights of Ren
They're obviously just a bunch of advanced troopers/droids who fuck shit up with Kylo.
>>64023783
how could you not have heard about Vader?
The empire was in power just 30 years ago
>>64023730
>Lucas made it up as he went along
>JJ must be doing that, too!
>>64023801
So you'd rather have everything about the main bad guy be given away within the first movie?
I can tell you'd just be a great writer.
>>64023813
>how could you not have heard about Vader?
I wonder if they tried to keep that shit secret to Ben Solo.
Skywalker family is literally being a member of like Himmler family.
Rey killed all of Ben's friends
Going full edgelord was the only way to become strong enough to get revenge
>>64022222
>turn to the dark side because his brother Anakin is killed
Trite "sympathetic" villain garbage.
>turn to the dark side because who the fuck knows why?
He was corrupted by Snoke and willingly became a monster. Having a villain that's utterly despicable makes his defeat that much more satisfying.
That's why the emperor became the main antagonist in the last movie of the original trilogy, because Darth Vader was being set up to be redeemed, so they had to have a new totally evil guy to get comeuppance for everything that happened.
I think over the course of the original trilogy Vader killed as many Imperial officers as he did rebels, including Ben Kenobi.
>>64023946
why is she such a qt?
>>64023860
I mean like why would they save it for the next movie, when it makes this one non-cohesive?
>>64023885
Not everything obviously, but it should make sense. I don't believe anyone in the universe would do something for power or just because its evil.
>>64023997
Too add: this is not exactly a deep observation, but Kylo Ren's real name adds something to the whole choosing to go over to the dark side thing, I think.
>>64024038
>why didn't we know that Darth Vader didn't kill Luke's father but was Luke's father in A New Hope
>Not knowing that makes it non-cohesive!
>>64024097
>I don't believe anyone in the universe would do something for power or just because its evil.
Jesus Christ, just because they didn't reveal his intentions doesn't mean he's bad for the sake of being bad.
>>64024097
>not everything
>but everything
wait until 2017, autismo
>>64023620
WELL WE'LL FIND OUT IN THE NEXT MOVIES WONT WE YOU FUCKING RETARD
>>64024097
>I don't believe anyone in the universe would do something for power
c'mon son
>>64024122
A New Hope was released almost 40 years ago. It was fresh and exciting back then.
fuck the EU forever
>>64024176
Its shitty writing.
>/tv/ circa 1977
>"Why did Darth Vader turn against Obi-Wan and become evil? The shitty writers forgot to put that it in. Bad movie, Flash Gordon is much better."
>>64023885
Is Kylo even the main bad guy?
>>64024302
I think you're implying that they're going to do more prequels after 7,8,9, huh?
>>64024306
Until we see more Snoke, yes. That probably wont be until the 3rd movie.
>>64023783
Probably from his family? Vader was like a fairly prominent force of the empire. I'm sure most knew him
>>64024348
disney plans to milk star wars to hell so they probably will
>>64023811
Incorrect
>>64024302
Suss the fukn Historical context m8
>>64024355
nah, kylo ren is the bad guy in 7, snoke in 8 and rey in 9
>>64024453
Yeah don't bother explaining why.
>it's okay guys, they'll explain it in the sequels :)
Why is this an acceptable excuse?
>>64024523
>rey the bad guy in 9
It's like you don't even understand the purpose of the new trilogy.
>>64024188
>plot twists in general are no longer interesting
>>64022222
let us analyze these repeating digits and their infinitely greater significance than the thread's topic
>>64024550
Its perfectly fine for a planned trilogy. LoTR is a perfect example of that
>Everything has to be explained in one movie
People like you are the worst
>>64024259
>no does amoral things for power
>showing people fall for authoritarian movements is unrealistic
>it's inconceivable!
>that's never happened!
>>64024601
I don't want to have to wait 2 years for a stupid plot twist. A new hope was written to be able to stand on its own, which is why it worked.
>What could have been
;_;
>>64024655
I phrased it badly. I meant to say even if they did do it for reasons like power, they would still believe in what they were doing. Not just "I don't WANT to be a good guy!"
>>64024662
people would be infinitely more butthurt about a Star Wars movie that was even more of a reboot than this one was, i.e. one that "stood on its own" (read: didn't have that strong a plot connection to past and future films).
It's not hard to see why Disney chose to do it this way, y'know?
>>64024709
What's the chance they elaborate on the whole Darth Vader legacy thing? I suspect there's something to it, not just "I hate you, mom and dad!"
Disney has too much riding on this to reduce the main conflict of the series to "I just want to be evil! The dark side is cool!"
>>64023997
>Trite "sympathetic" villain garbage.
Hmm, let's see
>I want to protect the galaxy from another threat that killed my brother and trillions of lives and since I stopped the last threat, I should seize control and stop all the threats and anyone who doesn't listen to me has to go down cause I'm basically a god. But I will never kill my father or my family.
or
>No, the supreme leader is wise. I'm so torn up inside, dad...*stab* HAH, GOTCHA! ALL HAIL SNOKE!
I'll take the former, thank you
>>64024725
Yeah. and the worst part is all of this shit ive spent 20 minutes arguing against would be fine if it WASNT JUST ANOTHER DEATH STAR!!! that shit didnt even work in ROTJ
>>64024833
>It's not just a Death Star
>It's a Death Star THAT'S A WHOLE PLANET
>It's introduced and then destroyed in what feels like less than twenty minutes
the fuck?
>>64022222
>>Be Ben Solo
>>turn to the dark side because who the fuck knows why?
because JJ is a fucking hack faggot
>people actually believe Kylo singlehandedly killed all of his fellow students and cucked Luke hard enough to send him to exile
>>64023620
you realize we had no idea how anakin fell to the dark side for fucking 25 years?
>>64024819
You are genuinely retarded if thats how you read Kylo killing Solo
>>64024971
>something went really wrong
>one student in particular went off the deep end
>it was all over
>Luke's a hermit
>Kylo's tryna be a Sith
>This must mean Kylo splashed his orange juice on all of them and turned to the DARKNESS
But why
>>64024984
you realize we've known both of ben's parents as galactic heroes for 30 years
>>64024802
>>64025114
Jaina is substantially more attractive than this skank bitch.
>>64025308
>Jaina
she no longer exists, EUdiot
>>64025925
*EUnuch
>>64025925
she exists, just isn't canon, faggot
>>64024025
Diogenes was a bad ass.
>>64027767
If he lived today he would be the cranky homeless man on the street corner with a meth addiction.
>>64024984
We still don't
Palpy promised him the ability to keep Padme from dying, and then Anakin murdered Padme and just went crazy
The only thing we can assume is that he was either already evil, or he has some kind of mental condition
>>64027971
Anakin didn't really murder Padme though, at least not intentionally.
>"No. She was alive, I felt it!"
>>64027971
>he doesnt understand the power and allure of the darkside
think of a heroin addiction, fucking star wars casual
>>64022222
How can people like the EU when shit like Luuke Skywalker exists.
>>64029894
Because there was nothing wrong with Luuke.
>>64029894
Because the EU is bigger and better then a few shitty stories. It's not worth throwing the fucking baby out with the bathwater. It's been around for DECADES. Of course there will be some batshit stupid stories. That's not an excuse to toss it. That's like saying Marvel or DC need to be expunged because they have stupid stories with their fucking heroes.
Eat a dick you cockgobbling faggot.
>>64029894
How can people like the OT when shit like Bigger Luke exists?
>>64025925
Get out you JJ ass kissing butt muncher.
>>64030022
Old EU was great because it tried so many different crazy things.
