Is this show worth checking out?
>>64018517
Yes, it explores the lore and is entertaining to watch.
It's enjoyable
Though there's Jar Jar episodes and I have to wonder who thought that was a good idea
>>64018517
Yeah
>>64018517
Yes, I'm not even one of the faggot contrarians on this board pretending the prequels were good, but this show takes the prequel material and MAKES it good.
Explores a lot of cool ideas like what it means to have an army of clones and the moral implications.
Yeah if you wanna see grievous get gang raped by gungans baka
It does a good job of filling in the massive holes in the prequals, showing anikin and Obiwans realationship, anakins, slow turn to the darkside.
The show has very inconsistent quality though , some episodes are great and some are garbage, there is an image floating around /co/ that shows the must watch episodes.
>>64018517
In my opinion, avoid the prequel movies and watch the animated series instead. Much more plausible that way.
>>64019164
Fuck those last ones were awful.
>queenie
Yes. It explains some questions people have had for a long time. Why did the Clones suddenly turn so easily? How do Force Ghosts work? It also gives more insight to the lore and pretty much salvages that era. It's pretty Saturday morning for the first season or two but it really picks up. It shifts tone quite a lot though. One episode may be about necromantic witches and the darkness of the Sith and the next could be about fucking Jar Jar. You can safely skip the Jar Jar episodes by the way.
i don't know, i had a really hard time watching them.
but the jedi are literally my least favorite part of the star wars universe, so your results may vary
>>64018517
What about Rebels? Is that any good, anons?
>>64019521
It's a lot more childish
>>64019518
They're far and away my favorite part so that may be why I enjoyed them so much.
My rankings
1 - Jedi/Sith/Force stories
2 - Criminal Underworld stories (bounty hunters, smugglers)
3 - Soldiers/War
4 - Literally anything else from even another franchise
Extremely distant 5 - Politics (Padme)
6 - Whatever the hell Jar Jar is
>>64019521
Not as good but not horrible either. Give it a look and stick around for a few episodes. I liked how Billy Dee Williams reprised his role as Lando as well as Frank Oz and James Earl Jones.
>>64019521
Its a child show, an actual child show. Very simple and silly.
>>64019630
that reminds me
if rogue one is going to be a "guns of navarone"-style military heist movie, i think the next non-main SW movie should be a noir-ish bounty hunter/smuggler/hardboiled detective movie.
Yes.
Granted the show isn't consistent in quality, but it gets constantly better. Season 1's pretty bad. Things get better in 2, but things don't really get into the swing of things until season 3, and even so, there are bad arcs all the way up until the last season.
>>64019927
The next spin-off movie is a Han Solo movie set in his early years so there is that. They're looking for a late teen/young adult I believe for the role.
>>64018517
YES.
>>64018517
Yes
>>64020991
IS THIS A FUCKING SPOILER YOU MOTHERFUCKER
>>64018517
Clone episodes are GOAT
>>64018517
Manchildren go here >>>/co/
>>64020015
>>64019927
There's a novel where Han assembles an Oceans 11 style group of thieves, con artists, etc to rob a Black Sun vigo.
I know they're not using the books as source material, but something like that would be fantastic in a movie.
>>64018517
Yes if you like Star Wars, season 4 onwards.
It's cheesy but not absolutely dumb as Rebels.
It's arguably the most "Star Wars" production to date, and emphasizes what's best about SW, good action scenes, space battles and lightsaber duels.
There's a torrent in kickass with all seasons
>>64021428
They might. In their press release where they killed the EU they said they were open to taking stuff out of it.
Some of it is really fanservice-y but is fantasticThey bring Maul back as a cyborg
>>64021496
Well Kylo is a shitty version of Jacen Solo
Also his name being Ben was probably from Luke's son Ben
>>64021716
it's a shame because I feel like the novels have much more interesting stories
>Jaina has to kill Jacen so she goes to Boba Fett to learn how to kill Jedi
What about Rebels?
I've seen some of it and it doesn't seem too bad,
Yes solely for pic related
>>64021901
It's not bad but it's not to the level of TCW. It was kind of hard jumping into it literally right after I finished the last TCW episode but all in all I'm enjoying it.
>>64021901
It's so dumbed down and cliched it's almost insulting and absolutely embarrassing.
TCW was also awful but got better.
The only thing I love about rebels is this
>>64018517
It's literally the only good thing that came out of the prequels. Actually does a much better job fleshing out Anakin's descent to the dark side.
Plus there's her.
>>64021985
i like that its more centered then TCW was. Even in the last season we still had arcs revolving around Jar Jar. Plus ive always been fascinated with Jedis dealing with the fall of the order and on the run and it touches on that a little with Kanan.
>>64022127
centered meaning consistent with a core group of characters not just jumping around to smaller groups i couldn't give less of a shit about (the astrodroids lead by that frog fuck).
The earlier seasons are kind of off but they become better at 3rd.
Rebels is kind of worth, has its moments.
also pic related
as for s6, watch all. even the jar jar arc
>a fan from /m/ makes a better cartoon than any of the official ones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTUShame about the music.
>>64022666
Do TIE Bomber's work that way?
>>64018517
I enjoyed The Clone Wars. I also enjoy Rebels.
>>64022868
Missile circus?
In anime land they do!
>>64022127
>>64022161
I will say I like that. It's nice to not have to worry about a great episode get followed by Jar Jar.
Man, I wish they would do an Star Wars Episode 2.1.
Who cares about a Hans Solo or Boba Fett "one shot" movie.
You have Hayden and Ewan in their prime, imagine the bad ass movie they could make.
They could give a bit more depth to Grievous and develop their relationship with the clones...
>>64023517
agreed sucks theyre shunning the prequals, at least theyre still canon.
>>64023488
;_;7
>>64023587
Agree. And a bad ass live action Ahsoka would surely please "everyone"!
>>64023517
Disney hates the prequels and normies seem to have taken the PREQUELS SUCK THERE IS NO REDEEMING QUALITIES ABOUT THEM to the extreme.
Which is why they quickly abandoned clone wars for rebels and have every new star wars content focused on episodes 4-7.
>>64023736
worse is the future of star wars is just a rehash of 4-6 era and not trying to be its own thing
>>64023629
>>64023778
I like how the prequals and original have a different feel bc it shows the power of the dark side in the original corrupting everything and turning life in the galaxy to shit. now 30 years later its the same again. so defeating the emperor and the empire was pointless.
>>64019521
I enjoy itMY WAIFU IS DEEEAAADDDDDD
>>64022666
so fucking cool
>>64023778
To be honest, in terms of history and world building Episodes 4-6 is very bland and quiet compared to the shitton of things that are happening during the clone wars.
What can they do after ANH?
The empire controls everything and even criminals have a tough time, Stormtroopers are brainwashed so there's barely any stories there, Darth Vader is overplayed, the Rebels are honestly a boring bunch of people and etc. It's pretty much the empire running around unchecked with no real threat to them other than Luke and gang which we saw.
>>64019326
It's like a swarm of ants bringing down a big spider.
>>64023955
which would make an interesting story with after 6 the galaxy is now allowed to get back to its old self but then we just get neo-empire coming thru with anh 2.0 and sequals of star wars nostalgia feelz movies
>>64023736
It's a shame desu, the Clone Wars is such a rich environment for the anthology films. I hope they do take advantage of that.
>>64023877
Wh-wh-who was your waifu? I just started season 2.
Apparently several TCW actors make cameos in TFA. James Arnold Taylor was the voice of Obi-Wan in Rey's vision at first but then they got Ewan McGregor to come in and replaced him. I heard that the guy that played Anakin was in it as well with several others.
>>64023906
I'm guessing this is from the new Battlefront?
>>64024223The Imperial Minister. She died ep. 1 Season 2 IIRC
on a side note, I wonder if they'll have the balls to off Ahsoka. Preferably at Vader's hands
>>64024296
Oh her. Yeah she got a raw deal. I was thinking to myself "Why have her get on the shuttle and not on your ship?" once they ran to their ship, but maybe I just missed something. Ahsoka is the one I'm dreading because it's likely going to happen. She wouldn't back down from the fight against the Empire if she was able to continue it and we all know Vader doesn't lose so yeah.
>>64021919
>>64022089
Why was Ahsoka never hunted down?
>>64022089
The original animated series was the superior Anakin arc, both on tv and across the entire franchise
>>64024417
She got expelled from the Jedi order, so she wasn't in a position to get whacked by 66
>>64024417
She's not a Jedi anymore.
>That entire story arc with Darth Maul and Mandalore
Fucking GOAT
>>64019164
At least he's useful for a good chunk of them.
>>64019365
Can anyone find this image, I'm really interested to watch this but 6 whole seasons is too much, especially when some parts are apparently as bad as the cg clone wars feature
>>64024446
>>64024461
But she was a close personal friend of Anakin's and knew the force. Letting her live is dangerous.
>>64024516
>>64019365
do people not scroll through threads anymore?
>>64022317
>>64024564
>>64019365
>19:23
>>64022317
>20:46
baka
>>64024519
I think Vader assumed she was dead because he was quite surprised when he found out she was alive. He's going to want to correct that. According to the showrunner or someone Vader really wants her dead because she is an old thread to Anakin Skywalker and that makes him hate her even more.
>>64024621
>yfw Ahoska shows up in the next film and trains Rey
>>64024976
I wouldn't be able to stop fapping in the theater.
>>64025068
shed be old af tho
>>64025157
True true. How well do Togrutas age though?
>>64023517
I'd watch that. Also who the fuck wants a Han Solo movie?
>>64025920
Chris Pratt prob will be cast too, making this movie unwatchable. Harrison is the only one who can do this character everyone else will just shit on it.
>>64021456
It doesn't just emphasize action scenes, space battles, and lightsaber duels, it does a beautiful job handling the opera side of space opera.
It's not just some action show, it's actually thoughtful and beautiful.
>>64018517
Only a select few episodes but fuck no not that video game trash known as Republic Heroes.
>>64018517
A lot of people will tell you it makes the prequels good or at least the time period.
They are wrong. It has all the same problems at the prequels except for the dialogue is better.
The lightsaber fights are even more ridiculous, Vader has a fucking padawan, and you have to skip most of it to enjoy it.
It still reinforces the prequels as Anakin's backstory and that's probably reason enough alone to not like it.
>>64018517
No
>>64028450
He put on a lot of weight for the movie. Shame he never got nominated.
>>64018517
How much of a kids' show is it?
For example, I'm getting through Rebels but there's only so much of that I can stomach at any one time.
>>64028540
The first couple seasons are like that, but after that it's only the droid- or Jar Jar-focused episodes that are kiddy
>>64028540
I'd say about the same as Rebels, it's by the same people.
>>64019521
Thought it was okay, but I think it plays it too safe, I get that it's for kids but it does seem really childish sometimes.
The show is better than the movies save Episode 5.
>>64028540
Much less of one. Season 1 and parts of two are somewhat kiddie, but at no point is it on the level of rebels.
The show does not pull punches. Named characters drop like flies, the main characters all kill without hesitation. The level of violence is pretty intense too. Lots of on screen stabbings, decapitations, getting crushed, that sort of thing. There's not much in the way of blood or gore, but there is a bit.
>>64022317
You will want to follow this guide. The first time I tried watching this I dropped it mid season 1 because of all the filler. Following this guide made it more than just watchable; it was an amazing experience.
>>64028675
Fortunately Rebels has shown it's capable of killing characters, even if it's not as often. Though I do doubt the main cast will be touched.
This series is great but brings up a ton of continuity errors, like in EPIII when Kenobi and Grevious fight they talk to each other like this is the first time they've fought each other.
>>64028666
This is all honestly.
Like the movies, there's a definite mix of good and bad, but in the show's case, there's a much greater ratio of good to bad.
All of TCW > All 6 movies
Which one is the good one, the first series or the second series?
>>64019167
who???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>64028297
The prequels are being reinforced as Anakin's backstory as they are Anakin's backstory. Also there's nothing wrong with Anakin, a Jedi, taking on a padawan, as Jedi tend to do.
>>64022317
>Savage Oppress
When I heard his name watching the show I was like "Are they fucking serious?"
>>64028450
His lightsaber's buzz and fighting style was so fucking based
Watch this http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Clone-Wars-Movie-Series/id/17325 that's what I did. Pretty good but the guy only did 2 out of 9 yet.
>>64023736
This so much. Even if the prequels weren't as good as the originals they introduced a lot of really cool concepts and characters. The fact that people loved the Clone Wars cartoon shows that Disney avoiding anything prequel era is just idiotic. He'll even prequel the movies themselves are more popular than people think.
Also I was really disappointed when I learned that they were doing a Han Solo one shot movie. Like he's been in four of the main movies why does he need his own? This would have been a perfect opportunity to salvage some prequel content with a Darth Maul or Republic Commando movie.
Let's hope that those rumours about Snoke being Darth Plagus are true because it would show that Disney is willing to recognize gold nuggets in a turd.
>>64025343
force unleashed was set right before anh and shaak ti was bangin in that, so prob pretty well
TCW starts out very dull (first two seasons), but gets very good in the later seasons.
Rebels starts out very dull, and so far is still dull outside of the Season 2 Premier where Vader shows up. I'd imagine it'll get better as it goes along especially when Vader runs into Ahsoka and Rex.
>>64018517
The movie and first few episodes are pretty cringey, but it picks up around Rookies.
I'm rewatching myself, since I never got to finish the series. I keep mishearing things though.
>Avacado System
>Genital Grievous
But yeah, give it a shot. IMO the best thing to come out of the prequels.
>>64021901
I've only seen a few episodes so far. As others have said, it doesn't seem as good as The Clone Wars, but it's alright. And I enjoy when they explore stuff with the Force.
>>64028834
brehs
This shit show has literal personifications of the Light Side and Dark Side of the force.
Can't defend this shit.
>>64028834
Yep, I'll take Ahsoka in that outfit please.
>>64028730
>Though I do doubt the main cast will be touched.Obi-Wan and Yoda were the only Jedi left by the OT. The cast is fucked.
>>64028791
>The prequels are being reinforced as Anakin's backstory as they are Anakin's backstory.
Just let me forget already, they butchered him more than anything.
>Also there's nothing wrong with Anakin, a Jedi, taking on a padawan, as Jedi tend to do.
And it never comes up in III. I get sheleaves because of the bombing stuff.but you think someone would mention it.
Okay you like this show right? I tried season 1 and didn't like it but I realize the first season of most shows are not indicative of overall quality. Give me one arc off this list (or 3-4 contiguous episodes of your choosing) that 'fixes' Anakin's character. Involving dark side or not, I need to see an Anakin Obi-Wan would look back on fondly. Does this series have that?
Fuck me
this list >>64022317
>>64029026
>>64028791
The only reason people like the shows outside of terrible taste (including m-muh Ahsoka) is that they provide what Ep2 and Ep3 doesn't, that being a more gradual fall for Anakin to the dark side and expanding on the friendship of Obi-Wan and Anakin.
That alone doesn't make it great though, and it's more terrible than what little good it does offer.
>>64028761
Both, for different reasons.
The first is typical Genndy fare, cool, stylized, overblown action. Highlights are general grievous actually being cool and badass and murdering dozens of Jedi, and Anakin liberating some blue aliens in a nice subplot.
TCW is much more, in depth. It's much more like the movies. Early seasons are weak, but as it goes on gets much more polished. Complex, multiepisode arcs, with well fleshed out and written characters, good action, and very solid direction.
I prefer TCW, but I can see why some like the first one.
>>64028804
In all fairness he's fucking Maul's brother, not like 'Maul' is much better.
>>64029026
What do you want another round of special editions?
>>64029026
Yes. Anakin is far more likeable in the show than he is in the movies and he has a lot of great moments with Obi-Wan that clearly show how close they are. It doesn't fix the bad dialogue or acting in te prequels but it really does help it from a narrative point of view. I watched Revenge of the Sith right after finishing the show and it is actually heartbreaking.
>>64029087
I want the "good friend" line to make sense
I want Anakin to have a tragic fall
In the words of Dennis Reynolds, "We don't want wild girls. We want good girls gone wild. It's important to see the transition, watch the process..."
>>64023488
Allahu Akbar!
>>64029026
>Give me one arc off this list (or 3-4 contiguous episodes of your choosing) that 'fixes' Anakin's character.
It's tricky. The best Anakin arc is definitely Ahsoka Framed, but that really relies on you spent time with the show before it.
The Slavers arc might be the next best thing, as far as arcs go? It's hard, there really aren't that many arcs where Anakin is that central a focus.
>>64021901
Needs Lucas' money. Though I suppose that would mean his daughter would get to write more episodes...
>>64029109
>Revenge of the Sith right after finishing the show and it is actually heartbreaking.
Order 66, and Yoda and Obi-wan killing all those 501st troopers is what's really heartbreaking.
>yfw Obi-wan and yoda probably killed Kicks and Delta
>yfw Cody had to live with thinking he murdered Obi-wan
The show doesn't have any sense of subtlety and just turn up the jedi shit to eleven.
It's really just there for people who want more adventures during the PT period.
>>64022317
They need the arc with ahsoka kidnapped, that's my main gripe with this guide
>>64023838
agreed. prequels had their own unique feel and it was superior imo
>>64024031
best scene from that arc besides gregor. Mmmph
>>64025343
normally I think. That's what wookieepedia says at least. But she's a jedi and jedi always live a long ass time
>>64027500
;_;
>>64029224
>>64029109
Yep. RotS is my favorite star wars movie after TCW. Second half of the movie is absolutely heartbreaking.
>>64022317
>deathwatch arc
>good
wat
>>64029169
Arc, episode I don't care. Show me a good friend.
>>64028540
The Clone Wars gets really dark at a certain point, but I watched the show sporadically so I can't recall where that point is. Season 3 is where most people agree things kick off, but I think that's when the Senate arc happens and that should be skipped at all costs. In comparison with Rebels, it doesn't try to paint things with moral lessons for kids, it's kind of just people in a war doing what people in a war do. Mostly dying.
>>64021281
not really no
>>64028804
All the shit Lucas's daughter added was terrible and it's not like they can say no to Lucas.
>>64021919
muh orange buttcheek waifu
Some of the worst things of the prequels turned into a CGI cartoon. Add a bit of EU flavour and that's what this is.
Yes it has better writing than the prequels, but that's not saying much with how low a bar that is.
>>64022317
A few things to consider with the list, is that while the first season has some really shit episodes there, by season 3 the quality has leveled greatly and even the non-essential and mediocre episodes have good moments and fantastic visuals.
>>64021901
better than tcw imo pham.
someone explain to me the difference between the cgi show where the characters all look like they were carved from blocks of wood and the Samurai Jack 2d animation show of the same name
>>64029502
One is canon and the other isn't
>>64029502
The genndy series was actually good
>>64029167
>that one episodes where the republic sends military advisers to help insurgents fight off the CIS and eventually gave them anti-air rockets.
>>64019611
Watch the first 2 seasons of TCW and tell me with a straight face that the first 2 seasons of rebels is more childish
>>64029502
The CG one is canon and actually has a number of story arcs that really help to flesh out the characters and universe. The 2d one is just mindless action. It's fun but it really doesn't compare to the CG since that one has plenty of great action too.
>>64029502
One is good, enjoyable and doesn't try too hard to be more than what it is. The other is what they're calling canon just to make people watch them.
>>64029614
>>64029548
which is which
>>64029502
Samurai Jackakin is all-around quality, but less story and sci-fi stuff and wackier action. The final few episodes are the best part of Darth Vader as a character. Star Wood is closer to mediocre but still has good points and goes on much longer, has more of the weird sci-fi stuff from the prequels and the fights are tamer. If you have time, do both. If you don't, Samurais in Space is excellent and compact, totally worth the time.
>>64029154
Tbh I don't understand why people hate on Anakin so much in the prequel movies. Like sure he can be whiny and a bit of a dick but his character totally makes sense within the context of the story. A character doesn't have to be likeable to be good, and even if Hayden can be wooden when he does show emotion I think he does a pretty good job a lot of the time, especially in ROTS.
>>64029502
The Genndy one is pretty good but non-canon I guess? Either way, watch it, the whole thing is like 2 hours and totally worth it
>>64029625
The episodes with anakin getting his scars were so cool. Good characterization that was fucked by Ep3.
Also seeing Grevious for the first time and him kidnapping Sheev, fucking goat
>Lucasfilm told TV Guide that The Clone Wars would not supersede the original Clone Wars series in continuity, but would expand upon what the earlier series established.[113] However, Dave Filoni has defended any differences in continuity: "But there's never an implicit connection between the micro-series that Cartoon Network did previously and the series that we're doing now. I personally as a fan never think of it as discrediting any of the other material, it's just that other material is from a different point of view, a different look at the war and take on the war. It's an ever-Expanding Universe in a lot of ways."[114] Despite this, however, nearly all preceding Clone Wars–era content is being retconned to match with the new show, whether just by the timeline shift or by other factors. One example of a direct contradiction between The Clone Wars and Clone Wars is the use of Eta-2 Actis-class interceptors at the same point in the timeline Anakin is knighted[115], whereas in The Clone Wars Delta-7B Aethersprite-class interceptors are used, which were ostensibly used before the later Eta-2s. In addition, some G-canon elements from works like the novelization of Episode III: Revenge of the Sith are being retconned. For example, in the novelization, Anakin remarks that he has only read about Grievous' IG-100 MagnaGuards in an intel report, despite having fought them in the show.[116] Another very noticeable continuity error is the fact that Anakin has his scar which he received shortly after the Battle of Rendili from Asajj Ventress. He then injured Ventress so severely she was forced to recuperate until the Battle of Boz Pity, after which she deserted the CIS and the war for good. However, he was originally shown to receive his scar in 19 BBY, yet the series takes place in 21 BBY.
good god what a clusterfuck
>>64019164
It's almost like the show is made for kids and not manchildren who discuss cartoons on the internet you retarded faggot
>>64029625
Actually, I'll expand that to say all of Anakin in that is the best part of the Anakin saga of Darth Vader. He's very masculine, rather than whiny, and genuinely troubled and frustrated with the Republic. His fall to the dark side has great pathos and is much more sympathetic than his fall in the prequels. Grievous is also pretty cool. It's still pretty light on story, though.
>>64019197
>Explores a lot of cool ideas like what it means to have an army of clones and the moral implications.
I hated how they never went into this in the movies. The Jedi are leading an army of brainwashed slaves against people who just want to be free from the Republic. This alone is a decent reason for Anakin to turn to the dark side, the whole "from my point of view, the Jedi are evil!" thing could have actually been part of the plot. Instead of Padme saying something stupid to Anakin like "this war represents a failure to listen", she could have said "so the Jedi are leading a slave army....to keep people under the control of a dictator...and they're the good guys? How does that work, exactly?".
>>64028786
Ahsoka's voice actress
>Savage Opress
Who thought this name was a good idea?
>>64029683
oh shit the episodes are like ten minutes what the hell
>>64029736
>Republic
>Dictator
>>64029279
episode 2.13 has some great Anakin/Obi-Wan interaction.
Actually, deception is a really good arc, and has some good stuff with their relationship, but there isn't much actual interaction between them. Anakin thinks Obi-Wan is dead for most of it.
Deception's really good though. It wouldn't make a half-bad introduction to the show. Episodes 4.15-4.18
>>64029658
>A character doesn't have to be likable to be good
But Anakin did. He was Obi-Wan old pal. He fell, he was seduced by the darkside. You never see a good or even mostly good Anakin outside of him being a kid. You never see why Obi-Wan and Anakin are friends.
In the first movie he has any jedi training he slaughters a village with women and children. No one seems to give a fuck except qui-gon of all people. It's hardly a fall in Episode III if he's already a violent murderer.
>>64029564
It really is. TCW isn't that quality in the first season, but it's never rebel's level of kiddie. I mean, one episode revolves around Ahsoka dealing with the guilt of getting her entire squad killed.
Not that rebels is bad, or doesn't have any mature or dark stuff, it's just more kid-oriented than TCW ever was.
>>64029747
Isn't he some EU shit that snuck its way onto the show and by extension into canon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVk9lPotcW4
Here's the samurai jack clone wars in its entirety.
>>64030006
No.
There were several EU characters who made it in though. Delta Squad, Darth Bane, Aurra Sing, to name a few off the top of my head.
>>64030085
I feel I'm the only person who didn't like Republic Commando. All the weapons felt like shit and you moved like a rock.
>>64029823
>Republic
>Dictator
A Republic just means a state not run by a monarch, nobody ever said it has to be democratic. And the Republic is definitely not democratic during the Clone Wars, Palpatine basically controls the entire government as well as the military by the end of it even though his term expired about halfway through.
>>64029920
>>64029920
Eh I see your point, but I still found he was sympathetic at times. I felt for him after he loses his mother and I felt his desperation to save Padme in the third one. Also I always looked at his relationship with Obi-Wan in the movies as more of a father-son thing, which still makes it heartbreaking when they fight. It could have been done better but I just don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be. Tbh I thought his fall was done better than his redemption, since it seems pretty clear that Lucas didn't even come up with the idea to redeem Vader until after Empire came out. His redemption always seemed more rushed to me than his fall.
>>64029464
THE TRANDOSHAN KIDNAP "MOST DANGEROUS GAME" ARC soooo beautiful
>>64030141
and palpatine is also the one backing the separatists. so what you're saying is the emperor was backing a group of people fighting a war to free themselves from himself
>>64030153
I fucking loved that arc right up until the exact second whenchewbacca showed up
>>64019167
jesus christ
I tied to get into this but couldnt get past the 2nd episode without fapping to ashoka porn constantly.
>>64019481
>How do Force Ghosts work?
fuck me, so it really does explain this?
>>64030277
Yes. Literally the very final episodes but yes.
>>64030006
Savage is original.
Actually a lot of TCW content is original. George was involved, and you can really feel his influence in a very good way, especially in the later seasons, but one thing Dave Filoni revealed is that while George generally likes the EU, he considers it separate, and he'd rather make something new than import something already present.
And when he DOES import stuff from the EU, he usually changes it a LOT. To the point of being almost unrecognizable sometimes.
>>64030152
The issue is that Lucas's objectives were fucked from the beginning. He was aiming for neo-realistic acting with a cast that mostly didn't have anything to make us interested in them. Neo-realism can work, but you need serious heart at the core of these characters. Luke could be done in neo-realistic form. Anakin was totally unlikeable, given neo-realistic flair, and expected to be respected as a protagonist, all at the same time.
>>64030269
Same here. She made me so hard.
>>64030191
The Separatists were a fantasy Confederacy, they weren't actually interested in freedom. They were a tool of an economic elite to maintain power in a world that is invalidating them.
>>64030277
Final arc.
But it doesn't like, EXPLAIN explain it. It lays out the most basic elements of the rules in poetic Jedi Force speak.
>All that surrounds us is the foundation of life, the birthplace of what your science calls midi-chlorians, the foundation of what connects the Living Force and the Cosmic Force. When a living thing dies, all is removed. Life passes from the Living Force into the Cosmic Force and becomes one with it. One powers the other. One is renewed by the other.
>At death, in order for you to preserve your identity, you must know yourself, your true self, and then let go.
>>64030277
It's like 3 episodes of Yoda doing a ritual that involves facing his dark side blah blah you get it. It's at the very end.
>>64030191
>and palpatine is also the one backing the separatists. so what you're saying is the emperor was backing a group of people fighting a war to free themselves from himself
Yes, but nobody knows that except for Palpatine himself.
>>64030335
>Nearly sold into slavery twice
>>64030191
The Jedi don't know that, if they did the prequels would have been over pretty quickly.
>>64019481
You CAN safely skip the Jar Jar episodes, but that doesn't mean you always SHOULD.
I've got a soft spot for "Shadow Warrior" in season 4, because it turns out you get something fucking amazing when you put Jar Jar, General Grievous, and an adjustable chair in the same room together.
"The Disappeared" two-parter in season 6 is the Mace Windu/Jar Jar buddy cop version of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom we never knew we wanted.
>>64030496
I'd pay top dollar to fuck her tight holes whenever I want.
>>64030510
>>64030496
No price in the world is too steep. I'd lie, cheat, and steal for that.
>>64030554
kek, thanks anon, saved
>>64019521
it's goodwhen TCW characters are around
>>64030553
>>64030580
>>64030418
Please tell me those aren't the Whills.
I always imagined them being hairier. Bulkier. More serene.
Something that would fit in with The Dark Crystal.
>>64030525
they did know that their side was made up of a real democracy, with a massive senate representing all member systems. the separatists were butthurt trade federation space-plantation owners and an unknown sith lord who will most likely not represent the interests of the people as well as elected representatives
>>64030609
I don't think they're ever called the Whills, also they don't really have bodies anymore.
>>64030609
They are the five Force Priestesses. From left to right, they are Joy, Anger, Serenity, Confusion, and Sadness. Yoda encountered them on the planet that is the birthplace of the midi-chlorians.
Nothing more is known about them.
For all we know, they could be Whills, but somehow I doubt they are.
>>64030609
They're Force Priestesses, not from any species in the galaxy.
>>64030207
same 2bh. too much shoehorning. coulda just been random wookiees or even rodians or some shit but just not chewie
do you think they'll have leia show up in rebels?
>>64030590
This, sadly. I don't like a single one of the main characters in Rebels. The ones I don't actively dislike, I just really don't give much of a shit about. Then when Rex shows up I'm thinking "Hell yeah!", and when Ahsoka comes in and just embarrasses everyone with how much of another level she's on, I wonder why I'm not just watching TCW instead.
>>64029056
Is the flick part of TCW?
>>64030604
Fuck I want her so bad.
>>64030758
i don't understand why Rebels writers don't understand how to develop interesting characters. even in episodes completely dedicated to a single character we learn almost nothing about them or their actions contradict their character. especially that episode with Sabine and her sister where she claimed to care about droids, then promptly lied to one and sent it on a suicide mission.
>>64030787
It's pretty much the very first episode. Has Anakin meet Ahsoka and everything. It's absolute trash though. Probably the most saturday morning of either Rebels or TCW.
>>64030787
The TCW movie is unfortunately part of it.
Endure, anon. In enduring, grow strong.
>>64030604
fuc
>>64030842
Can't I just skip it?
>>64030796
>>64030865
Remember when Lucas said there was no underwear in space?
>>64030886
yeah. all you really need to know from the movie is that Anakin gets an apprentice and he initially isn't happy about it.
>>64030829
It's because George is gone.
George was part of TCW, involved at every level of production.
He trusted his team, and they trusted him, and the result was probably the best thing George Lucas has ever created. He had just the right limits, but all the freedom he needed.
Now he's gone. The future of Star Wars has a Lucas ratio of 0%. And I am terrified.
>>64030929
He gets an apprentice between episode 2 and 3? That's weird, he seems so young and immature.
>>64030886
Watch the first 20 minutes or so.
Once the film leaves Christophsis, you can skip all the rest.
>>64030886
You can, but you'll miss the setup for Ahsoka and the whole "Anakin has a Padawan" thing.
>>64030604
Tbh I prefer her timeskip minidress. It looks sluttier somehow.
>>64030935
God help us
>>64031008
>>64030935
or maybe the writers just suck at their jobs
Rebels could be good, but they keep squandering its potential.
that's why they have to keep bringing back TCW characters in order to keep it interesting, cuz no one gives a fuck about Ezra's whining.
i guess Ahsoka was annoying at first but she experienced a lot of growth throughout TCW. i was hoping Rebels would get better on its own but so far it's just been coasting.
>>64030949
It was arranged by Yoda and Obi-Wan to help him grow up and become more responsible.
It ended poorly.
>>64030918
Makes it easier to get to her cunt. Also she has the best cock sucking lips.
>>64031066
To be fair it ended poorly because of them.
>>64031068
You think she was born with those dick-sucking lips? No! She sucked endless dick for years!
>>64031043
>filename
Whether you named it yourself or found it that way, I appreciate this.
>>64030698
>also they don't really have bodies anymore
Oh, that's fine.
But that might just support the likelihood of them being Whills.
>>64031168
>>64031066
It actually wasn't a bad idea, they just kind of betrayed her and shit. That double fucked them as far as Anakin is concerned.
>>64031307
the finale of s5 makes Anakin's turn to the dark side a lot more believable. what great television that was.
>>64031168
That's a myth. Her big, luscious dick suckers are purely genetic and totally independent from the copious amounts of dick she's sucked.
>>64031365
Ahsoka was a mistake.
-Jedi Council
>>64031365
It took 5 seasons of a kids show to fix the prequels. I just meditate on this sometimes.
>Watching "Destroy Malevolence"
>"Spinning is not flying!"
>"But it's a good trick."
>Hurrr durr, TCW good, prequels bad
The prequels are comfy as fuck. Fun storytelling, awesome worlds, great characters, awesome action, and meaningful moments. True Star Wars. TCW is great, but the prequels (and Genndy wars) are just as good to me.
I noticed that before 2009, a lot of people liked the prequels. Many were disappointed, but few outright hated them, and like I said, A LOT of people were willing to say they liked them. A thread like this couldn't exist today:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.72432-Am-I-the-only-SW-prequels-fan
Ever since Plinky the fat fuck made his reviews, Redditors have constantly linked to them, as if "Another guy said these movies suck so they suck!!!1111 I can't form my own opinions lol11!" He nitpicks the movies so much, his fans don't realize that you can nitpick ANY good movie to that level and it'll look bad.
>>64030418
>midi-chlorians
dropped
>>64031460
>>64031464
As much as you like the prequels, you have to admit they're massively flawed. I love Cloud Atlas, but holy crap can you tear that movie apart frame by frame. Just because a movie is very flawed, doesn't mean it can't be great.
>>64031466
It's just that one arc that mentions them.
It's trying to rehabilitate them, find a way to make the Force magical and mysterious again without having to retcon midi-chlorians away. The only way to do that, then, is to build the Force back up in a way that fits them into the magic and the mystery.
>>64031511
>Giant lumbering blocks moving at like 10km/h
>majority of laser fire misses
>>64030604
>>64031405
Think anything happened between these two? I couldn't really believe the mangina in the movies would have a smoking alien sidepiece outside his childhood oneitis, but with TCW Anakin I could totally see it. And losing his sidepiece is a great explanation for being a mangina.
>>64031464
The Plinkett reviews are shit, but that doesn't excuse the prequels' many, many flaws.
I did enjoy Genndy Wars though (Anakin's cave painting vision was one of my favorite Star Wars moments), but they were short and limited in actual narrative scope.
>>64031466
Midichlorians will forever be canon. The only thing that can be done now is work around them. It's reestablishing magic by saying that midichlorians are powered by magic or something.
>>64018517
Didn't they cuck grievous in this? I love grevious but i feel like most of the time they do him wrong.
>>64031710
>It's reestablishing magic by saying that midichlorians are powered by magic or something.
I'd say more that they allow one to sense magic, rather than producing magic.
>>64031710
Midichlorians aren't even that bad once you realize that they aren't in any way The Force itself, which is still a mystical energy field that flows through every living thing and has a will. If anything they're just messengers or the middle-man.
>>64031521
>>64031710
It's even worse because it mentions the planet midi-chlorians come from. You know what you can do instead of bringing them up? Don't bring them up, ever again. Having a microscopic force organelle is fucking terrible. Just never mention it again. That's what the NT is gonna do.
All you had to say to explain the ghosts was what the said that actually explains the ghosts. Know yourself and let go willingly and fully into the force's loving embrace. You don't need the midi-chlorian cosmic force (the fuck?) bullshit in there.
>>64031464
>prequels
>great characters
???
i don't think the prequels are the worst thing ever, but the characters might be the single worst thing about the prequels.
>I noticed that before 2009, a lot of people liked the prequels. Many were disappointed, but few outright hated them, and like I said, A LOT of people were willing to say they liked them.
prequel defenders are out in full force all the time, they've just slightly changed their tune to clickbait titles like "am i the only one sick of prequel hate?" in fact here's one right now - it's you!
ragging on the prequels is cathartic for a lot of people. lines like "i don't like sand" are the butt of star wars jokes. it's fun to laugh at how bad it is.
unlike TFA, TPM and AOTC were largely panned by critics. even ROTS response was mostly lukewarm. the myth that when they came out everyone loved them is a lie. go back and read the reviews from when they came out - most of them are bad.
things like the Plinkett reviews jbecame viral and people started parroting it. but at the end of the day all the critiques and defenses of the prequels won't change the fact that they just aren't good movies and never will be remembered as fondly as the OT.
>>64031466
they tried to make do with what george gave them. at least they tried to make it interesting rather than "oh we just need a blood sample to detect your power level"
should i watch it in a different order than the original airing? i heard that for the first couple seasons the episodes were out of order
>>64031874
There are some that are out of order but it's really not a big deal at all.
>>64031776
They never produced magic.
Episode I established the following:
They live inside your cells. In fact, they live inside all living cells of every life form in the galaxy.
They make life possible. Without the midichlorians, life could not exist.
They continually speak to you, telling you the will of the Force. If you learn to quiet your mind, you may even hear them.
Naturally, someone with a higher count per cell (or per blood sample) is going to have an easier time with that last part because they've got a fucking choir screaming at them, but it doesn't preclude the possibility that anyone could potentially get in touch with the Force.
>>64018517
http://strawpoll.me/6352421/r
>>64031871
>they tried to make do with what george gave them.
And I guess that's ultimately why I can't get into this show. As good as the clone antics or new ships and battles are, it's still to mired in prequel george lucas shit.
>>64031464
>great characters
>fun storytelling
You don't know what these are if you like prequels.
This shit is lit. I just finished watching season 4. Been taking it slowly. It takes the great setting, characters and conflict of the prequels and explores it really well.
>>64031988
you can just skip season 6 entirely. it's not like they talk about midichlorians all the time. in fact there's an episode guide in this very thread.
>>64031988
Search your feelings, anon. You can't do this. I feel the conflict within you! Let go of your hate!
>>64032025
Stopped after season 5 because it was done at that point. Is season 6 really not that good?
>>64032025
>in fact there's an episode guide in this very thread
Which post senpai?
>>64032285
Season 6 is great.
The first arc in particular is magnificent.
But if you rage over new Force concepts and efforts to fix midichlorians, you'll hate the last three episodes of the season, just fair warning.
Which is a damn shame, because they're AMAZING episodes.
Why are you so afraid to try watching things that you need us to tell you if it's good or not? If you don't like an episode or two it's not like it's the end of the world.
>>64023488
As I watched this, "Come Fly With Me" came on. Was not disappointed.
>>64032392
>Why are you so afraid to try watching things that you need us to tell you if it's good or not?
Do you have any idea how many great movies and tv series are out there? I have over 40 seasons of tv on my backlog, and over 200 movies. I don't have the time to watch all of it.
>>64019111
>it explores the lore
it's a fucking kids show, there is really nothing to keep you watching this series even if it's lore related.
>>64032320
near the top friendo
How does one get into the lore of Star Wars? Where does the clone wars fit in to the movies? I've only seen the main 7 movies.
>>64032501
Star Wars is a kid franchise m8.
