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Hi /tv/. This is Star Wars fan theories general.

old: >>63970233

A thread made specifically for all speculation and theories about the upcoming star wars novels, films, games, and other media.

Current /tv/ theories:

* Sheev is future Luke theory
* Snoke is Darth Plagueis theory
* Snoke is Sheev clone theory
* Finn is a double agent theory
* Rey and Finn were both former members of Knights of Ren, but had their minds whipped, implanted with false memories, and hidden like Luke and Leia in episode III
* Rey is Luke's daughter
* Rey is Sheev's granddaughter
* Rey is Obi-Wan's granddaughter
* Finn is Mace Windu's grandson
* Kylo Ren is Luke's son
* Finn is Lando Calrissian's grandson
* Rey and Ben Solo are brother and sister.
* Luke is on Rakata Prime theory
* Maz is a droid being controlled by Yoda's ghost theory
* Bigger Luke theory
* Sith lord Jar Jar theory
* Expanding Force Theory
* Rey's sister massacred the Jedi theory
* Hux is Luke's son theory
* Hux is Tarkin's grandson theory
* TR-8R desperately wants to leave the First Order, and is so furious that Finn achieved what he never could, causing him to lash out theory
* Kylo Ren is a secret good guy theory
* Plagueis created Anakin theory
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* Finn and Kylo are actually half brothers. Kylo was able to rattle off Finn's stormtrooper ID because he knew he was family. It would also further explain the Han Leah separation and gives more reason for Kylo killing his dad because he let his mom get blacked. Lando ran off to let her raise the kid by himself so Leah let someone adopt Finn which was actually an agent of Snoke who knew he had potential and why there was such importance on the First Order finding a random deserter.
* Luke is grey Jedi theory
* Kylo left Rey on Jakku because even he couldn't kill his little cousin. The force vision shows the jedi massacre and that part starts with someone attacking Rey only to be killed by Kylo. Then it flashes to Rey being left on Jakku. Luke thought his daughter died theory.
* Rey's vision is here recalling when Ben Solo was taken from her either by Snoke (in which they would have been looking for the child of Luke and he would have lied to protect her and said he was Luke's child) or he was taken by Luke/the new jedi order for training theory.
* Snoke created Rey as his ultimate apprentice theory. Luke saved her as a child, mind wiped her, and left her on Jakku where Plagueis couldn't find her theory.
* Lor is Luke's stepfather and his wife was killed by Kylo and all his padawans and was left by Luke to watch over his daughter from a distance Luke left Rey mindwiped and on her own because he was scared she would turn into Kylo theory
* Leia is Snoke theory
* Luke created rey out of the force theory
* Finn is a clone theory
* rey is luke and leias daughter theory
* Rey = Kateel of Kuhvult theory
* Poe and Finn end up together, everyone else dies, no more Jedi or Sith theory
* Snokw is a native of Rakata Prime theory.
* Starkiller base = Ilum theory
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>>63999811
>fan theories
>being a fan of SJWars
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* Kylo wants to capture and join Snoke because he already knows that Snoke is going to kill him for a more powerful force apprentice anyway so he would rather sacrifice himself for his sister Rey rather than Snoke kill her off because she refused his offer theory
* Hux is Luke's son and a double agent theory
* Sheev is alive theory
* Han survived because no one in Star Wars who falls down a shaft dies theory
* Luke has a wife who's alive. (Who hopefully looks like and/or is named Mara Jade) theory
* Sheev and Darth Maul are working with Snoke theory
* Qui-Gon had a sexual relationship with Shmi Skywalker (a clone?), who had her mind erased before she gave birth to Anakin. Qui-Gonn remembers her in TPM, but she doesn't remember him. Qui-Gon therefore would have raised up Anakin the same way that Dooku raised the clones, and Grievous raised the Separatist army. Luke inherited Anakin's lightsaber, and later he reconstructed a green saber from Qui-Gon's old crystal. After Return of the Jedi, Luke taught at a temple but had a baby girl on Jakku theory.
* Rey sells herself as a sex slave for food theory.
* Snoke and Kylo Ren are part of a cult that worship Sheev as a god. Their goal is bring about end time apocalypse theory.
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Can you explain in detail some of your favourite theories please OP
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>>63999839
Finn being a double agent and Snoke being Darth Plagueis seem to be the most legit theories.
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>>63999811
All true desu senpai
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>>63999862
i'd like some actual theories explained instead of just being told brief titles about what the theories are
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>>63999899
Finn is a double agent working secretly for Snoke. Nobody knows this except Snoke himself. He's part of a super secret elite force sensitive stormtrooper group. He will turn around the end of the next film.

Plagueis being Snokw is kinda self explanatory. It means Sheev wasn't telling Anakin the whole story in episode 3. Where Plagueis was during the events of 1-6? He was controlling Sheev and using him as a puppet the whole time.
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>>63999811
>Expanding Force Theory
?
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where is the Finn is the chosen one and defeats Rey who is evil theory?
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>>63999862
Also Rey being Luke's daughter

>Luke hides her on Jakku for her protection after Kylo kills everyone
>Her memory is wiped/implanted with false memories to make her stay there
>The lightsaber vision, especially with the voices (you hear Yoda, Ben Kenobi, and Ewan McGregor's Obi Wan speak to her, McGregor recorded a bit specifically mentioning her name)
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If Kylo killed Rey's parents when he was ~18 then he should be 30 by now
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>>63999811
I think the training of new powerful Jedi works in a cycle.
>Obi- Wan trains Anikin who becomes powerful sith, goes into hiding, then starts Luke on the path
>Luke trains Kylo Ren who becomes a powerful sith, goes into hiding, then starts Rey on the path

I think Rey will train another young jedi who will then become a Sith
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>>63999862
How can Finn be a double agent after everything that happened. Seriously. He fights Kylo Ren and loses. Is almost blown up and shot several times. There is talk of him undergoing further brainwashing to curb his cowardly behavior. Don't be silly.

I could see Snoke being Plagueis though, would be great poetry.
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>>64000200
It's all part of the infinite cycle.
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>>64000227
>How can Finn be a double agent after everything that happened.

You can see several times thought the film that Finn's loyalty is questioned and he's got a lot of fear of being caught.
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>>64000157
>If Kylo killed Rey's parents when he was ~18 then he should be 30 by now

For the last time, Rey was a former member of knights of ren. She killed her own parents along with Kylo at the Jedi temple. Her mind was whipped and dropped on Jakku.
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bamp
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Where were the knights of ren ? I was hyped to see them. Just a flashback wasn't enough
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I second the Soke = Leia theory

It was pretty clear in the film
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>>64001144
You can't:
1. Shoot your load in the first movie
2. Introduce a badass group of villains without building them up first in the second movie without making it feel like a Naruto episode
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Snoke is actually Darth Jar Jar
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>>64000455
Worst theory I've heard ever
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>>64000455
>literally Naruto episode
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why is mind wipe suddenly possible?
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>>64001349
>why is mind wipe suddenly possible?

Because in a universe with CLONES, anything is possible.
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>>63999811
After seeing TFA, one issue I have with the Plagueis theory is that Han and Leia refer to Snoke by name, as if he's a known entity.

If Snoke/Plagueis has been able to hide from episode 1-6, why would his existence seem like common knowledge to them?
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Rey is a vader clone
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>>64000455
>For the last time
stopped reading there
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>>64001405
agreed. she looks like anakin from the 1st ep
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Rey is the real Kylo Ren and Ben is just posing as her
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>>64001433
Anakin clone that was fed hormones so no-one would find out
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>>64001504
conveniently distributed in the "portions" by Snoke's man
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>>64001372
>>64001349
Outright reading minds is apparently a basic trick you can do with the force now, so mind wiping being a thing isn't much of a stretch.
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>>64001433
>>64001504
Come on, its something the first order/knights of ren would consider as they bum vader

Her being lukes daughter is too obvious, also explains her hax
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>>64001504
>>64001642
Clearly they need to have a regular Anakin clone too and have then fuck.

Y'know, for science.
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>>64001504
Also to make it submissive and controllable

It makes perfect sense, and would also explain why she's so good at everything
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*Rey was artificially conceived by Darth Plagius aka Snoke by medichlorians, her mother is an unknown, Luke knew of this and wiped her mind and hid her and she has a medichlorian count of 40,000 which would explain why she wrecked Kylo theory
*Rey turns to the dark side = 8 and Finn becomes the hero and brings her back = 9 theory
*Rey is Revean theory
*Kylo Ren is Luke's daughter theory
*Rey is either Luke's daughter - or a manifestation of the light side summoned by Luke theory
*Plagueis is Anakins father theory
*Dooku was the real hero of the Clone Wars theory
*Rey is plagueis/sidious theory
*Snoke is actually Darth Jar Jar theory
*Poe Dameron is gay theory
*Vader's spirit will come back to life and possess Kylo Ren theory
*The Resistance is operating independently and is trying to incite the Republic and the First Order into a war to weaken them both and then take over theory
*Same as above, except it's a third party (Remnant of Luke's Jedi Order) supporting the Resistance and trying to take over the galaxy theory
*The First Order is secretly supporting the Resistance in order to provide a reason to go to war with the Republic theory
*Poe could be a clone working on 'The 6th Day' rules theory
*The female sith lord they're casting for Episode 8 is Rey's mother theory
* Snoke is an illusion theory
* Snoke = Malak theory
* Kylo Ren = Revan reborn theory
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I think some of these familiar guesses are unnecessary. Abrams wanted to make a bigger and better-er New Hope, so Hux is a Tarkin expy, but the way he was made "better" is being young, attractive, and actually having the competence to request and carry out an evacuation which doubtlessly saved countless lives and resources in a matter of minutes.
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>>64001316
Not literaly kotor
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>>64001800
>attractive
Gleeson pls
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>>64001504
no hormones necessary:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OppositeSexClone
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>>63999836
DESU, if Qui Gon just fucked a young slave girl when he was a horny padawan or jedi knight roaming the outer rim and that girl gave birth to a kid and then he came back and, though the power of force coincidences, found the kid who led him to his mother and then they had a very awkward conversation. It would actually make everything in TPM make more sense from Tatooine onward, at least concerning Qui-Gon's motivations towards Anakin. Fuck the chosen one bullshit, that kid is his SON.

So many little things that would have made the prequels so much better.
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Wait a second... if the force binds us, penetrates us, and holds the galaxy together... could it be Dark Matter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzLM6ltw3l0
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>>64001891
Pretty sure the Counsel would have spotted that Anakin was Qui Gon's son desu
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Snoke being Plagueis seems like the most obvious one to me. I mean who the fuck else could he be? Some ancient evil from outside the galaxy?

There's way too much pottery at stake for it not to be the case.
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*Finn has an Order 66 style trigger that's going to go off and betray the Resistance theory.
*Snoke is actually a dwarf theory
*Snoke is a last ditch attempt at getting Darth Vader back, they couldn't find the Emeprors body so they tried their best to clone Vader theory
* BB 8 is named after this Quantum key distribution protocol theory
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>>64001205
Kylo feels like Zuko from Avatar: The Last Airbender. I've never seen Naruto.
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>>64002065
They didn't spot a lot of important shit.
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Reminder hux, kylo and phasma are all aleady dead. They did not make it off starkiller base.
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>>64002109
He's a better version of Zuko, who's just a pretty boy with an ugly scar who never does anything that bad. Zuko is like a Disneyfied version of Kylo, ironically.
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>>64001939
>dark matter
>posts video that is clearly about dark energy
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>>64002142
>Reminder hux, kylo and phasma are all aleady dead. They did not make it off starkiller base.

All according to plan..
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>>64000270
Because he lied and said he was a Resistance member, when he wasn't.
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>>64002095
Finn being some high risk gamble manchurian-candidate-esque memory wiped agent who'll reveal himself in the end but who'll be actually be turned through his experience throughout the movies would be some inspired shit

too bad it will not be the case, in any way
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>>64002142

Phasma was confirmed alive.
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Rey is literally Revan and in turn, the true Kylo Ren.

Jewel is a hack.
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Within the First Order army, homosexuality is fairly common among stormtroopers.

Since interaction with common folk is forbidden, stormtroopers are "de-facto" encouraged to release their sexual gratification on their fellow troops.

Finn, being weak and un-experienced with combat, he was raped repetitively in the service. Plasma not only knew this, but encouraged it, as a sign of domination in her ranks. The biggest fucking bad asses would find the little fucks and their dicks in their bums as a rocky high. The rapes were just getting to much for Finn.

What do you guys think so far?
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>>64002423
More like phasma craved finns bbc and had the whole dominatrix thing going on but he thought she was insane.
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>>64002423
From an SJW perspective this theory in unapproachable. Anyone who aggressively denies it is a rape apologist. Good work, anon.
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>>64002423
The most common rapist that Finn had to deal with was pic related. When he learned of his betrayal, he went ape shit on him.
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>>64002423
Good one senpai

>men can't be raped so nobody cares about low ranking stormtrooper shagging each other's arse

>the only woman-stormtrooper we know of couldn't be raped because the rapist would have been beaten to death/superraped/executed/jail

>meanwhile she rapes her way up to her role

>Finn is so angry with her because she fucked him with her galactic strap-on multiple times
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>>64000196
I had fun reading this
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>>64001146
Proof?
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>>64003361
She is the only person besides Hux and Kylo that mention his name.

She clearly mind tricks Han into confront Kylo and bringing him back. Just to get him killed and fully convert Kylo to the dark side
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>>64000455
we literally see her as a 5 year old girl being dropped on Jakku...
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>>64003822
>we literally see her as a 5 year old girl being dropped on Jakku...

false implanted memory.
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>>63999836
>Rey sells herself as a sex slave for food theory
This is true, there's a deleted scene where J.J. Abrams in alien makeup has sex with the girl who played kid Rey. It was shown in the producer screening but cut from the theatrical release.
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>>64003822
Could be her on Jakku,
Could be some other girl similar to her on Jakku
Could be her on a planet similar to Jakku
Could be a false memory that's set to keep her on the planet, same as the false promise to return she believes she was given
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>>64004078
all too complicated

this shit is star wars

you guys are making complicated ass theories
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>>64003709
Seems legit enough
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Rey is Rei
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> TR-8R desperately wants to leave the First Order, and is so furious that Finn achieved what he never could, causing him to lash out theory

Horseshit.
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>>64004556
Rei is worst girl
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>>64000022
You didn't study thermodynamics in school?
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I really hope they don't make Rae Luke's daughter. It would be literally the same fucking twist as not only Empire, but of TFA. We've already had Daddy drama.

I'd much rather her have a connection to Kenobi, like being his grand niece of something. He was obviously too dedicated to being a Jedi to have a some secret honey on the side to have her be his grand daughter, but if it is the grand daughter of his or something, it would be an appropriate connection.
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>>64004057
Underrated pedowood post
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>>64006065
The twist I hope we get in episode 8 is Sheev clones
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>>64006065
>but if it is the grand daughter of his or something


Same poster, meant to say

>but if it is the grand daughter of his brother or something


>>64006497

I could accept that for who Snoke is, but considering how much of the TFA was a complete retread, I'd rather a bit of new ground.


Also, I'm really hoping Snoke is Yoda sized. It would be a great twist VIII
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>>64006692
>I'm really hoping Snoke is Yoda sized.

I'm not, I'm hoping he's huge as fuck.
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>>64003929
>>64004078
Maybe she unknowingly/unwittingly used the dark side on her parents and killed them
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>>64003709

Dont forget, they have an almost identical face
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>>63999811
>* TR-8R desperately wants to leave the First Order, and is so furious that Finn achieved what he never could, causing him to lash out theory
Stop forcing this shit.
TR-8R is just loyal to the good cause.
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>>64006976
>Maybe she unknowingly/unwittingly used the dark side on her parents and killed them

>she's taken from her parents and mind raped and experimented by First Order
>Luke comes in and saves her
>they hid her because poetry maymay.
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