So, the Force Awakens was obviously better than the prequels.
But did anyone miss the world-building and feeling of "bigness" that the prequels had? Episode VII felt pretty small and there wasn't any sort of context given.
>>63994108
>So, the Force Awakens was obviously better than the prequels.
Bait
>>63994120
epic meme
>>63994108
well the republic got down sized to only 5 planets in one system so yeah
>So, the Force Awakens was obviously better than the prequels.
why do they always try to slip it in there?
>>63994154
>>63994120
>>63994157
this
tbqh familia.
>>63994108
>But did anyone miss the world-building and feeling of "bigness" that the prequels had? Episode VII felt pretty small
Yeah I think I agree to that.
I like the areas of the prequels, but not much else.
>>63994120
>>63994157
Why do people meme this so hard? The prequels were bad with a few silver linings. The only reason people don't like TFA here is contrarianism and meme-ing. You people are fucking autist shits.
>>63994108
>But did anyone miss the world-building and feeling of "bigness" that the prequels had?
A bit, but watching TCW greatly helped with that regard. 6 seasons of adventure on just about every planet, new or old.
>>63994108
TFA is so bad that people are actually reflecting on the prequels and realizing that they werent that bad.
>>63994204
>spouts "m-meme g-guys youre just m-memeing
>contrarian
yikes 2bh this is too reddit for me
>>63994204
They're wannabe patricians, anon. Don't take the bait from NEETs desperately seeking validity and attention within their super secret club. Just let this one slide, these manlet closet redditors ain't worth your time.
>>63994269
>>63994157
>>63994120
stop
fucking
meming
>>63994108
Really the only thing they should've done in regards to world building is better explain the nature of the First Order, New Republic, and the Resistance.
>>63994108
Episode VII had no world building.
You see, lucas drew from the monomyth, that's why his character arcs are structurally solid and he's on the spectrum, that's why he was very hands on about the world the movies are set in.
He had certain images in his head that wanted out, like the sunset on tatooine.
TFA is missing all this. It has no soul because JJ has no soul.
Star wars at it's crappiest was still a product of lucas' desire to create a world.
TFA is the product of a bunch of jews having a board meeting on how to scam the goyim.
>>63994283
>>63994290
>this is what subversive reddit fucking shits actually believe
V>IV>VI>III>I>II>VII
>>63994108
>"bigness"
The word you're looking for is "scope"
>>63994283
It just makes any discussion around here pointless because there's a dedicated group of autists shitposting while on IRC probably.
>>63994108
>But did anyone miss the world-building and feeling of "bigness" that the prequels had?
Yes, a lot.
There were no memorable locations in TFA. A sin for a Star Wars movie.
>>63994120
Fuck off.
>>63994108
The "world building" in the prequels was terrible. A bunch of interchangeable green screens and cartoon monsters with shit designs.
Force awakens is smaller in scale for the most part, but the locations/creatures/dwellings all feel real and lived in thanks to great set design and puppets.
>>63994321
No, I'm not
>>63994350
People like you should be exterminated. There was no world building in the prequels beyond Ham fisted space politics and sets that were literally actors in front of a green scene. It was all cheap and lazy.
>tfw the only one that enjoys all 7 episodes even though some are more flawed than others
>>63994430
>redditors talking about exterminating anyone
wew lad
>>63994350
>There were no memorable locations in TFA. A sin for a Star Wars movie.
Best location was probably the the imperial fleet graveyard.
A crashed star destroyer was cool.
but beyond that, meh.
We got temperate forest and snowy forest.
Location wise I was looking forward the most to lake planet with the x wings, but the location wasn't that good in the movie.
>>63994309
I'll take Jakku over jexters ridiculous 50s diner any day of the week. God you people have to be fucking baiting me
>>63994456
>saying reddit makes my opinion less retarded
Yeah you sure showed me
>>63994479
>preferring Nu Trek + Guardians of the Galaxy in a Star Wars skin
>>63994456
UH OH HE SAID HE WAS FROM REDDIT
DID YOU SEE THAT?
HE MEME'D SO HARD GUYS
BTFO
BUTT RUINED
WOW
MOM IS SO PROUD, DAD IS CRYING TEARS OF JOY
AND HE DOES IT ALL FOR FREE
WOW
>>63994283
>replying to yourself
leling
>>63994556
not him but this post seems really angry
>>63994204
If you use the word "contrarian," you're literally an idiot. It's a concept invented by idiots with reddit sensibilities who are too fragile to deal with criticism of mediocre media that has widespread appeal.
It's a troubling manifestation of millennials' mental weakness. Seriously, the only people who would even entertain any "argument" involving the concept of being "contrarian" are weak, lazy idiots who can't deal with criticism substantively.
If it bothers you that much that people criticize mediocre mass-marketed work designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, like Star Wars, Breaking Bad, pop music, etc., you should find a safe bubble and stay there. Or kill yourself.
>>63994675
You're being contrarian right now.
>>63994377
another non-post by a redditor, shocking!!!
>>63994675
Oh fuck off, /tv/ is just as much a safe space for all the rejects who get mad all the shows Chad and Stacy like. Don't act like /tv/ isn't some sort of circlejerk within itself powered by memes. Your taste is shit if you really thing /tv/ is the benchmark.
ITT: redditors starting a ruckus and the only loyal /tv/ anon in this thread (>>63994229). The gig is up, memespouting faggots.
I'm rewatching the series before I saw TFA again and, honestly, Episode 2 and 3 are NOT that bad. And by "that bad" I mean the kind of bad that leads to long nitpicky videos by Internet autists and permanently damages George Lucas's reputation.
Yes, you have that god awful Anakin/Padme romance but it's fucking better than another God damn Death Star.
>>63994746
Speak for yourself
>4chan board x, y, and z are circle-jerk boards
Just because you want to jerk me off does not mean I want to jerk you off.
>>63994855
>not understanding that 4chan is an echo chamber
Seek immediate medical attention, you might be mentally retarded. Sorry?
>>63994887
Stop jerking me off faggot
>>63994855
Do your own voice come back around to you yet son?
>>63994108
>So, The force Awakens was obviously better than the prequels
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
>>63994430
Calm down, autismo.
>be mildly excited for the new star wars
>JJ showed off all the right stuff leading up to it
>get more and more excited
>worried this'll be the prequels all over again
>go see it in theaters
>actually enjoyed
>wasn't as good as the originals, but it did some thing better
>realize people are going to want to turn this into another shitshow
>go home on /tv/
>first day, nothing
>people are talking about how they enjoyed it
>people are proposing theories about rey being dark side
>next day it all changes
>some people imply the prequels are better
>today, 90% of the board says they hate it
>they are the exact same posters who loved it the day before
Can you guys stop trying to be cool, if you didn't like it, thats alright, but I can guarantee you most of you tards are just trying to follow the memetrail right now.
>>63994108
The prequels are comfy as fuck. Fun storytelling, awesome worlds, great characters, awesome action, and meaningful moments. True Star Wars.
I noticed that before 2009, a lot of people liked the prequels. Many were disappointed, but few outright hated them, and like I said, A LOT of people were willing to say they liked them. A thread like this couldn't exist today:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.72432-Am-I-the-only-SW-prequels-fan?page=3
Ever since Plinky the fat fuck made his reviews, Redditors have constantly linked to them, as if "Another guy said these movies suck so they suck!!!1111 I can't form my own opinions lol111!" He nitpicks the movies so much, his fans don't realize that you can nitpick ANY good movie to that level and it'll look bad.
prequels4life
>>63995078
nice meme man
>>63995078
>redditors
You forgot the /tv/ anons that pretend they don't go on reddit (97.5% of this board)
>>63994479
>I'll take Jakku over jexters ridiculous 50s diner any day of the week. God you people have to be fucking baiting me
I don't.
>>63994479
>I'll take Jakku over jexters ridiculous 50s diner any day of the week.
Literally too pleb to realize where lucas was comming from with this.
>>63994154
What's up with all the planets being so close together? Seems like a child's perspective of a galaxy. Did they terraform a bunch of planets? Did they somehow move habitable planets to the same star system? Is this some Battlestar Galactica situation where there is an implied divine intervention of the formation of star systems (which I suppose would be some The Force thing)? When the starkiller was charging, why didn't the light shining on the planet disappear? Why did the baddies have a huge army of folks listening to the ginger speak, when they should have been guarding all the critical infrastructure of the weapon? I could think of new questions all night, but I need to go beddy byes.
I agree with OP. There is hardly any context for the scale of the organizations at play. We see snapshots of the power and influence of these people in specific locations of an entire galaxy. This movie is 2 hours and 15 minutes. I think almost everybody could stand another 5 minutes to provide some context for how these characters are operating in the galaxy, and it would explain some of the motivations. Maybe they're saving some of this stuff for the next movie, but I can't foresee any benefit for the dearth of "geopolitical" information in the first movie.
>>63995061
sup reddit
>>63995667
Sup 90%
VII didn't have any time to establish real context for anything because of how much it emphasized stringing one action scene to another.
The giant death planet blew up the Republic and it's treated as something nearly peripheral. It was like the movie only cared to show it so as to justify destroying the big obligatory menace. I can't help but wonder if this influenced the direction of Rey's character as well. It feels as if she's hyper-competent simply as an excuse to be able to keep the film moving while still providing faux-tension. I'm sure the sequels will elaborate on this, but no matter what stupid explanation we get she's still a terrible, boring protagonist in a poorly paced mess of a movie.
The movie was still ultimately decent and better than the prequels in my opinion, but it does feel hollow.
>>63995061
This is how people in the first world react to media. There's not much to feel strongly about so people will direct all of their strong opinions toward inane shit in the media and condemn others for negative traits they've projected onto them as a result of small disagreements. A lot of people in this thread would have over 90% of the population executed if it was up to them, and one of the criteria would be whether or not Kurt Russell is "fucking based 100 emoji 100 emoji 100 emoji."
Establishing shots =/= world building
