Why does Star Wars theme in TFA sounds like high school orchestra playing? That opening note is so campy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBeYD7yFWxE
Return of the Jedi for comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxUp5Q1vmc8
Did Disney cheapened up on the size of orchestra?
>>63980055
Williams is too old to travel overseas for the memedon symphony orchestra
>>63980055
A mediocre theme to fit a mediocre movie
>4:20
>tfw it's the only memorable theme from the movie
>doesn't even have its own track
>>63980055
it's not the london symphony orchestra.
Couldn't they just afford downloading the mp3 off youtube?
>>63980465
pretty sure they already own the rights
>>63980373
>>63980158
That explains a lot. Dumbass Disney.
>>63980546
I don't know if it was Disney's call. Williams is 83 years old and not in spry condition anymore.
>>63980055
I like how Abrams mindlessly drooling over Williams scoring TFA in behind the scenes footage. Doesn't give any direction whatsoever, just sperging IT'S MASTER AT WORK, IT'S LIEK SO INCREDIBLE. Williams delivers the score without almost no leitmotifs, significantly worse than any other of the series, but Abrams doesn't even understand that. All that matter for him is that Williams worked on his movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEyCX9ExkFg
GOAT soundtrack coming through
>>63980055
No it doesn't you tryhard contrarian
Am I banned here?
>>63980055
Yea the old one really kinda blows you away, theres almost some distortion on it
>>63980640
>hey guise I learnt a scoring term
>>63980711
So far, the best film score of 21th century.
>>63980055
can hardly tell the difference, my god this board is full of autists
>>63980055
Original was recorded on different equipment and it was analog.
>>63980737
4chan.org/banned
Fucking dummy.
>>63980928
Prequels were recorded digitally and sounds similar to the originals in performance.
He liked Lucas more.
>>63981201
He calls him JJ Baby
>>63980737
Yep
>>63981318
I remember that part. I'd imagine everyone thinks around him thinks J.J. is a blabbering douchebag.
>>63980711
They really should get him to score the other two films desu.
Williams' past work is genius but he's lost his touch. Bring in someone else.
>>63980055
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
>>63981646
b-but..but..the force awakes is a nostalgia trip
>>63980711
Oh baby baby
>>63980640
This is true, except that he did give Williams some direction in a behind the scenes video I saw. Still the end result speaks for itself, the OST for this movie is lackluster and has no memorable pieces.
>>63980711
Contender for best movie score ever. It's too bad what happened with The Hobbit, he totally phoned it in for that one.
mediocre score for a mediocre film
williams knows
>>63980055
ROTJ's piece has a more pronounced percussion, it's slightly different. The percussion really brings it home though.
>>63980055
It's not a BAD score, it's just not as strong as his past SW scores. I think another big issue is that Abrams didn't construct the movie to leave room for great Williams compositions.
Say what you will about Lucas but even in the prequels he was good about leaving space for Williams to fill in the gaps with a great new theme. Abrams seemed like he was trying to make a movie that was so fast paced it didn't even NEED a score.
Also a bigger orchestra would have been nice.
>>63981991
ROTJ's horns also have a deeper, fuller sound where TFA horns are baby fuccboi horns. The swing from the opening to the body of the theme is different. In ROTJ it's a bit more vivacious, TFA feels like it's about to become a waltz.
John Williams didn't write it.
>>63981455
Nah. I actually bet he's a pretty likable guy. You're a cunt but, then, so are most people on this site...often myself included.
>>63980055
Absolutely fuck all difference
>>63982223
You might have something there, JJ's gogogogo style might just have left no room for Williams to work. He also didn't see the movie at all while he was composing the score btw
>>63980711
>>63980711
This is like a soothing cup of warm tea on a cool winter morning. So refreshing to listen to, I still tear up during that first minute or so. I don't know how Howard Shore did it, but it's wonderful.
The fools, they recorded in mp3!
>>63980711
I was so disappointed with The Hobbit I forgot about this little gem Billy did. He looks so old now ;_;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8ir8rVl2Z4
Mixing is a little different, the timpani is fuck off loud in the RotJ mix making it sound massive whereas TFA is lower and the oboe sounding thing is higher and makes the bass more subtle
>>63980055
sounds the same to me tbqh senpai
>>63980055
piss off, they just isolated different instrumental groups better, more advanced recording equipment etc., also, this score should be considered a re-interpretation of the original, not a replica
>There will never be a proper release of this Max Rebo vaporwave classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfcg7BfsM90
>epic final battle starts
>this song begins playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcP91tQ4ZSM
FUCK. James Horner is dead. HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS. Put me on suicide watch.
GOAT music coming through. So evocative you can't help but see the movie in your mind as you listen. Listen to the percussion at 1:02. -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kR3IplPXD0
Compare that masterpiece to the trash Williams just shat out of his leaking 83 year old ass.
James Horner was James Cameron's secret weapon. FUCKKKKKKK. You will not be forgotten James.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H66tior0Z70
>>63980055
Rey'a theme sounds like something out of Harry pottee
>>63984746
>tfw Max Rebo will never play at Madison Square Garden
Why live?
>>63982223
This is the key. You barely notice the score in most of the film, so any theme development would be pointless.
Still, there are motifs there and a few developed themes, so maybe under a new director they will be developed more.
The end credits music was great.
>>63983123
Yup. Just think of how The Imperial March was introduced in Empire. There's like a minute long scene of the Imperial fleet flying around which introduces the super star destroyer. Without the music it would be really slow but the music MAKES the scene.
There's a similar scene in Episode I where the droid army is going through the woods and into Naboo. It's just a bunch of shots of their tanks going into the city but Williams' score makes it work.
Lucas knew Star Wars wouldn't have been what it was without the amazing score and always made sure to leave room for it in his subsequent films. He would also ask John to write really bombastic and grandiose pieces. Somehow I get the feeling JJ just kinda let him do it without giving much direction for what kind of sound he wanted.
>>63985284
Cameronfags will never cease to shit up every thread they enter.
>>63985779
you star wars babbies are destroying the board. cameronfags are The Resistance
>Williams literally forgot to add timpani and some cymbal work to the opening note
Go fuck yourself.
>>63985284
I'm a Cameron believer myself, but Horner's scores are nothing to be proud of, Titanic is decent, but Avatar is terrible. Aliens is really good though.
>>63980055
the original track is longer and while not a different pitch or note is played with a lot more theme, if you get my drift.
the originals theme song has that bombastic epic oprah feel like the players were fucking over joyed to be part of the most memorable theme in the history of earth.
The new one's timing is off and sounds like a warm up as opposed to the actual meat and potatoes.
its fucking puny.
>>63984746
I remember looking for this for ages.
>>63985749
I love the Trade Federation march, but it wasn't in the OST as its own piece unfortunately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC5014nKjuU
>>63985953
Avatar's soundtrack was great, evocative and full of good themes, painting a soundscape that will forever be associated with Pandora. What are you smoking?
Yeah, maybe musically it wasn't the best... but it's still leagues above TFA.
>>63985979
>trying to sound smart about music on /tv/
wot
>>63986078
No one remembers Avatar's music. No one.
Just like no one will remember TFA's lackluster score. On the other hand everyone will remember a slew of William's work for generations to come.
>>63986180
>No one remembers Avatar's music. No one.
I do
>>63986180
The Avatar soundtrack is so evocative and unique you can drop in at nearly any point and recognize it as Avatar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0yzYzzZtTs
>tfw the only memorable piece of music from TFA isn't actually it's own piece, but just a theme that's put in at random times
>>63980711
And Ennio Morricone is still alive and making music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kccafOf4O6Q
i mean not just the music itself, which is already god damn brilliant, but that fucking ENERGY!!!
these musicians were playing to blow your fucking mind!!!
and then the single best score ever recorded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOr0na6mKJQ
THAT.....is how you compose a score!
WITH GUSTO!!!
>>63983112
found the person with the untrained ear.
tune a guitar given only the first string's note then come back to us.
>>63986180
>No one remembers Avatar's music. No one.
Without looking at the title, what movie is this music from, senpai?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yR3jP_OxUU
>>63986367
Dude it's fucking cheating to use Ennio Morricone. How can one man be so good? And unlike Williams he's STILL making good music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP-wrI8G1bE
>>63986020
Really? I'm kinda shocked. That played a big part in Episode I and II if I remember.
>>63986493
CD labels butcher scores a lot. The LOTR CD's have some wonky shit going on too.
>>63986020
Pretty solid piece (even if it's a sort of Imperial March 2.0) but the idea of a TRADE federation having their own march is laughable. Fucking Lucas.
>>63986536
Thankfully the OT scores got released in full. The EP V score was one of the first CDs I ever bought and I still cherish it.
>>63986540
>corrupt business using cheap muscle
>what is the mob?
TFA is the first time I've seen a Star Wars movie and coming away with no memorable song, or really just a flat out forgettable soundtrack. There were great scores in all of the prequels and were among their few redeeming qualities. I hope this is just an aberration, and really helped go towards this movie lacking an iconicness.
>>63985284
ok, if you're gonna put Horner.....dont put his two most annoying/lazy works.
put his BEST works.
like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrD4UXzOteA
dont care if its a kids movie, it give me fucking CHILLS everytime i hear it. Also fuck you, greatest animated movie ever.
>>63986540
They're the Confederation of Independent Systems later on in the movies aren't they? Well that ends promptly, but whatever. Still a great march.
>>63985830
they're the same, you nigger.
>>63986126
Why dont you try....i dont know....Making a counter argument?
>>63986616
There you go, that's something every 90s kid remembers. Fuck if I can remember anything from that shit stain Avatar.
And everyone knows the Titanic theme because it was all over the radio for a decade. Thanks Celine Dion
>>63986020
Remember Lucas joking that the audience was listening to the music?
It wasn't a joke. He knew the music was the only good thing about the prequels.
>>63986616
You now imagine eating some of that sweet sweet grass Spike was eating.
will they use duel of the fates?
>>63986737
>the prequels were bad
Getting pretty tired of this meme.
>>63986407
if i didnt get the preview images i would have thought of Harry Potter, some hunger games rip off, bridge to teribithia.....or maby what i'm pretty sure it did rip off of....Chronicles of narnia
that or some dino movie, apocalypto, ect.
its pretty fucking generic.
This was a fucking GOAT song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4D_rt5mUfg
I guess 16 years fucks with your brain when you're a million years old.
>>63986757
That would probably be really good considering what we got for TFA
>>63984010
He is the oldest of the cast dude. He's nearly 50 years old.
He's older than Martin Freeman, and that dude looks old as shit.
See if you look that good when you're 50.
>>63986616
Shit, that was Horner? I'll be fucked.
>>63986790
I found the babby. Was TPM your first moviegoing experience?
>>63986685
>>63986748
>fellow land before time lovers
my niggas.
also yes, spike made that grass look delicious.
i always remember going "i dont know what food that reminds me of, but damn im craving it!"
>>63986794
You're a musical autist.Harry Potter is an obvious rip off of Home Alone.
>>63986825
What the fuck he was 35 when he played Pippin? He looked like he was in his 20s
and don't give me that look Marty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJzuanMUuS4
Probably the best part of the TFA
>>63980055
Those are some loud ass triangles.
>>63986804
>that bombastic intro with the brass section
>that string bass line with that section the Oboe and French horn give amazing flow and build up to.
>more awesome high tension slow build up then finally
> Main piece tease quiet down, more build up and CHORUS!!!
god damn thats great!
>>63986849
of courshe
>>63986806
We got some great stuff. No need for the late 90s Kora Ratama meme music.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OfrCLcjvDbk
>>63986874
i meant middle late potter, not early potter.
With nearly all of the reviews skewing the William's work, do you think they'll replace him for VIII?
>>63986926
>touch on old Star Wars theme a little over and over and over
It goes nowhere, it doesn't even feel like it's own piece.
>>63987026
That one sort of feels like it could be something but it feels more like it wants to fall into the Trade Federation march or the Imperial March but then jumps back out of it again and again it goes nowhere and doesn't become it's own thing. It will fail to stick in anyone's memory.
>>63981117
They sound completely different. Prequels were engineered to by extremely wide, bright and hyped. There's a reason to why they sound so fucking epic and awesome.
My educated guess is that the mixing engineers for TFA were asked to keep the new recording sounding "as similar as possible" to the score from the older movies.
Williams didn't know about that and kept the orchestration subdued, just like in the prequels (compare motifs from prequels and the original trilogy; prequels are based mostly on chords, while OT relies on melodies), which is an obvious route with arrangement when it comes to modern music production (in shortcut, less is more, less can be more forward, less can be easily made louder etc).
When you mix this kind of orchestration "naturally", as it was done in the earlier days, it just sounds unimpressive.
Honestly, Williams is the least responsible for this mess.
>>63980055
YEAH THE SCORE WAS A NOTICEABLE LET DOWN
JJ TRIED TO KEEP THE RETRO OPENING AND SHIT BUT THE MUSIC JUST WASN'T THERE
THE SOUND DESIGN IS STILL AMAZING, DEM PEW PEW LAZORS AND TIE FIGHTER SCREECHES, GLORIOUS
>>63986926
Nothing is memorable about that track. Now here's a scherzo, wish we got this guy to track TFA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP95xT0R28c (play at 1.25x speed for proper listening)
>>63987026
why is he useing so much string and mid level shit?
his strength has always been brass drums and low and high pitched.
he's epic and bombastic. Its like he's trying to suppress himself.
nice song, but just sounds very...well it sounds like pirates of the Caribbean lite.
Rey's Theme has potential, it's probably his best piece in this OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65As1V0vQDM
>>63986611
Same here. I would have even enjoyed a recycled vader theme for whenever kylo was on screen.
>>63987154
It's probably the mix. And if it was recorded at Disney it makes sense it might sound like other Disney pieces.
>>63987152
Awww yissssssssssssss
I love this piece. See? This is classic Williams, I remember the scenes this played in.
>>63987141
>THE SOUND DESIGN IS STILL AMAZING, DEM PEW PEW LAZORS AND TIE FIGHTER SCREECHES, GLORIOUS
Gonna have to disagree.
The lasers and SFX in this movie sounded like 343 Halo.
>>63987026
I wish I could post the Resistance track from the FYC Promo.
>>63987221
Yeah, this was the ONLY even remotely interesting piece.
I actually hum this one.
Too bad it was mixed in so bad I barely heard it.
>>63986611
Ep I had Duel of the Fates
Ep II had Across the Stars
What did Ep III have?
>>63987266
I want to see it again to take more note of the star fighter scenes, they looked like they would be amazing but I came away so distracted by the anomalies in the plot that I didn't take it all in.
anyone remember Basil Poledouris?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UTBlatoJXA&index=2&list=PL6559658E698E288D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hRYRz-K6Po&index=3&list=PL6559658E698E288D
>>63987121
>It will fail to stick in anyone's memory.
You haven't heard it a billion times like you have the Imperial March tbqh.
>>63987343
this bad ass piece of work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFOo86PDDuE
>>63987221
Barely a theme, more like two leitmotifs played over and over and over and over.
Compare that weak shit to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bzWSJG93P8
Notice how that builds and builds and is continually creative for more than 3 notes in a row.
FFS we didn't even get a cantina theme! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCGPt3XFxJk
>>63987368
imperial march is a god damn instant master piece. It sears into your brain the first time.
its borderline heavy metal.
>>63987266
THEY JUST COPY PASTED THE PEWS AND SCREECHES FROM THE OLD MOVIES
THE PREQUELS HAD MUCH BETTER SOUND DESIGN THAN JJWARS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ME5jhsgmB4
TFA WAS SHIT ON THE EARS IN A FRANCHISE KNOWN FOR ITS SOUND
>>63986320
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0yzYzzZtTs :30 sounds a bit like this part from Revenge of the Sith
https://youtu.be/vJJZunXbSIU?t=2m37s
Just not as sinster
>>63987221
I like it. Reminds me of WALL-E.
>>63987377
that's from attack of the clones. they just tracked part of it in for revenge of the sith
>>63987368
The Imperial March made an impression on me the first time I heard it, as did the main theme, and the theme played during the award ceremony. I still feel it, I remember humming it as a kid. If I hear kids humming any of the original music from TFA I'll eat my words.
>>63987368
Nigger I remember watching Empire for the first time and Imperial March was INSTANTLY memorable.
>>63987343
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o--bLEobBFY
This was was only in Ep3 if I remember right.
>>63987439
where was it use in Clones?
>>63987397
I liked the TFA cantina music.
I think the TFA music is more like ANH, with a few motifs repeated in various ways and a few themes sprinkled in. The Battle of Yavin music is very similar in style to the TFA battle music.
>>63987221
Now compare Rey's theme to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gpXMGit4P8
It's really, really sad that Rey's theme is the best in the movie.
>>63987429
>the sound of the blasters from Jango's ship
I came
If only Lucas hired competent writers
>>63984622
STFU muh euphemisms
>>63987560
It is. I wholeheartedly agree.
>>63986616
Horner's best work ever is in Star Trek II.
>>63987377
its just not the same without the sound of marching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2n7j1iUHuk
so did anyone enjoy that Rey was a force user who didn't need anyone's proddings or teachings to start her path?
the entire series has been about the guidance, weather bad or good, from people more experienced, and where it leads characters.
finally there is a character who takes her own guidance and makes her own path.
>>63987560
As others have noted, I think it may come down to the pacing of the film. If there's no long Star Destroyer shot, there's no imperial march. If there's no sunset scene, there's no sunset theme.
It's hard to argue that Williams is losing it. Methinks it was stylistically designed to be that way.
>>63987637
>the death throes of a shill
>>63987350
>not remembering the man who composed the greatest fantasy score ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzscyVeJy6M - my favorite track
>>63980373
>>63980158
It's not because of Disney, apparently the orchestra had other engagements at the time and couldn't commit to doing the score.
>tfw the best part (the trumpet solo) isn't even in the movie
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VJB9O6YvbxM
>>63987637
That doesn't make it okay for her to be able to use force powers without any training or practice. If you want to talk about what decisions to make as to what ideals and goals she wants to strive for then fine, she can be like Kyle Katarn and not choose light or dark for all I care.
>>63987656
>I think it may come down to the pacing of the film.
What is this meme? John Williams has done great music for fast-paced movies before. And DESU if Williams made some kickass themes, I bet JJ would've slowed down for them.
>>63987758
Always loved that creepy Palpatine tune.
>>63987637
How to spot a shill, the post. Stop trying to derail this discussion. The score was shit, disneydick.
>>63987397
you know what makes this piece so awesome and scary?
its almost the funeral march, just 100 times more bombastic.
>>63987553
it was written for the the arena sequence but lucas chose to play most of it without music. the part that's still in the movie starts playing when anakin jumps on the reek.
>>63987775
that's what I meant.
and plenty of force users didn't need some Jedi to teach them to how to use the Force.
the Force is a natural element of the Star Wars Universe, and a Force Sensitive can learn all by their selves, and that is basically how all the "orders" started anyways.
>>63987927
>when Anakin jumps on the reek
I love when the music kicks in just as the chain clinks.
>>63987929
>shill in his death throes
>>63987614
meh...i can see that.
>>63986616
>>63985953
No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weep71ay4Bc
James horner was fucking great.
To be honest, the only composer I'm sick of now is hanz zimmer. Most of his tracks feel pretty samey now.
>>63987621
god damn, i love a good march.
>>63987343
Anakin vs Obi-Wan, Battle of the Heroes, Grevious' Theme. It had one of the strongest OSTs IMO.
>>63987637
no that robs us of slow good pacing, character moments and tension.
its why we call her a MaRey Sue.
>>63987758
Dat Emperor theme. Love how it is introduced as quiet creepy background music and becomes as overblown and powerful as The Imperial March by the end.
Also are those Darth Vader breathing sound effects I hear around 1:20?
>>63988170
And Anakin's Dark Deeds
>>63987929
THATS BULLSHIT
SOMEONE WHO NEVER PICKED UP A SWORD IN THEIR LIVES WILL GET THEIR ASSES BEAT BY AN EXPERIENCED SWORDSMAN
NOTHING PERSONNEL KID BUT DAISY IS THE DEFINITION OF A GIANT MARY SUE SHIT CHARACTER
SHES ALSO HIDEOUS, BACK TO LV-426 JEZUS LMAO
>>63987560
mfw I realized they literally copied this scene in TFA where she watches the ship leave the planet. Except it's not half as cool as the binary sunset.
Truly the movie was a glib facsimile.
>>63987673
im with you. that sound track made Conan from a mostly good movie, to a work of art that has gotten shafted as a silly action movie as opposed to a near philosophical tolkien tier masterpiece that should be on more top 10 list.
yeah i said it. Conan 1982 is one of the greatest films ever made with no irony. Like near Ben Hur levels of good in its own way.
>>63987528
Fuck yeah this is the good stuff.
>>63988135
0:50-1:00 i jizzed
>>63987429
>FRANCHISE KNOWN FOR ITS SOUND
Why the everliving FUCK do they use the Vader breathing noise when he's in the middle of a word? Breathing doesn't work like that.
>>63988135
god damn!
love me some flamenco guitar!
>>63988375
darth vader was a cyborg you autist, he'll breathe how he fucking wants to breathe
>>63987929
I believe she could become attuned to the force if she spent all those years meditating and communing with the force. Sadly she had only thought the force a myth the whole time and she was only introduced to it in a visceral way when she go to Maz's place. Then Maz talks to her for a few minutes and suddenly she can close her eyes and become a Jedi master.
>>63988375
his breathing is done with artificial lungs for the most part.
>>63988375
The voice box is telepathic. If he talked he would sound like a squeaky old man.
>>63988135
Can't go wrong with dat flamenco
>>63988331
Build wall Paco.
>no one ever thinks about this glorious and emotional piece that makes this light saber fight trump everything else in the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE1nL4xFOfM
>>63988563
It's a perfect scene.
>>63980711
>the shire theme
every fucking time
Imagine them having to fit in the Resistance March into this. How out of place will it be?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3UyPagOc7g
>>63988415
Shills trying to derail criticism of the film. Hope you're getting paid well.
>>63988810
resistance had a marching theme?
>>63988976
It played during the scenes with resistance pilots boarding their ships n stuff before the big climax
>>63988256
pretty sure Kylo himself is inexperienced as fuck.
and Rey only one because Kylo was shot by that giant fucking Wookie-gun.
>>63988694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgJYNveHOYU
>they light the beacons
>>63988976
It was posted a couple times in this thread. You could probably just barely distinguish it from the rest of the score. Just barely.
>>63989027
>>63989125
fuck i couldnt tell.
>>63989088
thats some good music.
I dont think the score was any more bland than any other of the Star Wars scores.
The problem is that there was no room for it in the movie. There were no spots where they established any themes for the characters or mood.
Remember that scene from A New Hope when Luke stares out into the sunset and this plays?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcZ9kQ1h-ZY
Can you remember any such moments in TFA?
And whenever they had space to any of that, they rushed through it.
Whenever there were any strong music on, it was mushed up in all the sound design and dialoge.
The sound mix on TFA was a fucking mess.
>>63987221
now imagine the remixed version of this theme that they'll use for the final battle in ep9
going to be amazing
>>63988563
Perhaps she will.
>>63988694
Comfy theme.
>>63987141
Star Wars Battlefront on PS4 has better sound design than TFA.
>>63989557
>Battlefield: Star Wars Edition
bleh
>>63989557
NOTHING INNOVATIVE, BUT ALL THE SPACE BATTLES HAD GOOD OL SW SOUND EFFECTS
ITS GREAT TO HEAR THAT SHIT OFF 12,000 WATTS OF DOLBY ATMOS, RUMBLIN UR NUTS
>>63980055
Replace Williams with Giacchino.
Star Trek 09 was on par with Williams's best work.
Anybody have the song that plays when Rey arrives to Luke's island? I only heard it the one time but I swear it was lifted straight from Assassin's Creed IV
>>63981789
Rey's theme, the Poe / Finn friendship theme, the Jedi Steps and Finale track were really great man..
my favorite piece of music from the prequels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5jzQW1qmlE
not sure what williams was smoking when he made the TFA soundtrack but it's so bland it's practically insulting
>>63989710
you're absolutely right
>>63990772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3YcCLaTnBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65As1V0vQDM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUBUlKgsNK8
Those tracks are fucking great though..
>>63990915
They sound totally generic and phoned in.
>>63991022
Listen to these exact moments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3YcCLaTnBE
0:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHJrfB7VquM
1:18
I don't understand how people can't like those themes. They worked so well in the cinema.
here another sound track i think really got its tone down while sounding awesome as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vU7XqToZso
and regardless of what you think of the film, the score to Man of Steel was pretty awesome, even avoided Zimmer's rehash of gladiator thing he does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4OdIOGBW2Q
and speaking of Flight
John powell's How to Train Your Dragon Soundtrack is beyond Beautiful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IBlQj2U5kU
>>63983123
>He also didn't see the movie at all while he was composing the score btw
Source on this?
>>63990247
That would be Jedi Steps and Finale.
...I liked the Snoke theme. But it also sounded generic.
>>63980055
It's the studio mixing.
The new theme puts more emphasis on the highs and the lows (listen for how much more the kettle drums and the triangle are pronounced in the newer version)
While the old theme is set on the "main brunt" of the theme, which makes it sound "bigger", but also makes it lose a little bit of its depth.
>>63980055
TFA's literally sounds better
it's a neat punch that hits you hard
Jedi's opening beat is sloppy since the percussion comes in slightly earlier
>>63991085
> he shills it for free
>>63991085
Don't bother trying to convince them. They will find any excuse they can to shit on it. Literally just because it's popular.
Also, Rey's Theme is the best.
ITT: I do not understand music theory nor how to analyse the quality of music
>>63991484
True man, I actually listen to that track sometimes. It's great.
>>63980055
The timpani is mixed way down for some fucking reason. Who knows why.
Literally on par with the imperial march
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueqKtype7Kk
>>63991543
Literally on par with a pile of shit
>>63987343
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRgXGigPKuc&ab_channel=TheSpiritofClassicalMusic(TSCM)
>>63987343
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1k5zo0w6N8
>>63991543
"no"
who /yub nub/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neSzpvdKa5k
>>63991316
this
Digital recordings tend to dial back on mid tones for highers highs and lows. You think it sounds good at first due to a better clarity but its actually shit in comparison because theres no balls behind it.
Alan Menken should score the next two movies
You might think that's crazy but listen to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAoVWQnwmhM
>>63991543
Jesus, that shit ending. How many times can you milk the same note over and over
>>63991527
The bells (?) at the opening were very Harry Potter-ish. I enjoyed it.
>>63980711
>you bow to no one
;-;
>>63992481
Yeah man it made her character seem so mysterious and curious.
>>63992764
Here's your 0.0001 btc
>>63991543
This doesn't even sound like a John Williams piece, it sounds like a piece of Legend of Zelda music trying to pretend it's John Williams.
>look it up
>Williams only composed
>didn't conduct at all
>all the music was played by a freelance orchestra, not even the London Symphony Orchestra
BRAVO DISNEY YOU CHEAP SHITBAGS
EVEN JOHN WILLIAMS BARELY WANTS TO BE PART OF YOUR SHITTY STAR WARS FANFIC
>>63980228
Go back to reddit, fucktard
>>63993473
wait...REALLY!?
WHAT THE FUCK!?
that means they hired some shitbag who interpreted that the music was soft and shitty!
I thought Williams died last year?
Wtf
>>63993937
He's alive but he's 83.
>>63991725
Dear god imagine how much the prequels would have sucked if Williams phoned it in as much as he did TFA
>>63991852
I don't understand why everyone hates this
