>nitpick the prequels to hell, to the point where every single line is somehow criticized and made fun of
>Gives TFA a complete pass on its massive glaring flaws because it's "soft reboot" so it being shit doesn't matter so long it has lightsabers
Where were you when RLM died and became a glorified Disney advertising channel?
theres nothing good about the prequels
TFA was a good watch
>>63977687
There is plenty of good in Prequels and there is plenty of bad in TFA. It's fucking childish to assume one is inherently shit while the other is inherently good like RLM does.
>>63977570
> Literally discuss script structure 101, character motivation, plot coherence and how the prequels failed on fairly fundamental aspects of screen writing.
> Think RLM are the only ones who did this.
> Call it nitpicking
Fucking Christ
>>63977777
nice
Redditors hate the prequels and the best way to become Internet famous is to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I have to hand it to Mike, he knows his craft and I won't hold that against him.
>>63977725
no it isnt. the prequels fail in every category.
>>63977725
>There is plenty of good in Prequels
no there isn't
>>63977815
ha ha reddit. we here at 4chan dont like those people. callin another a redditor is insulting. ha ha
>>63977815
sup reddit
>literally praise it for being a soft reboot that doesnt step away from A New Hope
>Shit a Jurassic World for being a soft reboot that at least tries to be new.
>>63977838
>>63977863
Hello Reddit. Please upvote my comment ;)
>the bad guy is literally an edgelord jew
>it's a good movie
>>63977570
He's MovieBob tier now.
>>63977570
except TFA did things well that the prequels did badly
for instance the lightsaber battles aren't soulless video game scenes in TFA
>>63977956
kek
kiko ren.webm
>>63977570
with the prequels he started with how the fundamentals were just totally wrong, and the ''nitpick'' criticisms were the icing on the cake.
TFA got all the basic parts right that it needed to get right.
>>63977987
And TFA did a lot of shit wrong. Why did RedditLetterMedia overlook those flaws?
>>63977956
>the bad guy is a jew
>tv will say this is bad
wow you guys sure flip flop a lot
>>63977815
I know being a contrarian might make you feel like you are starting from a superior position in most conversations but liking or defending the prequels won't get you there. Just makes you look like a shit eating baby every time.
it was just post-premiere euphoria
mike and jay will come around to rich's views after a couple of weeks, if they haven't already
Half in the Bag =\= Plinkett.
I still think we will get an actual Plinkett review out of TFA
>>63977815
Go to r/starwars out of morbid curiosity and see how much they love the prequels and hate TFA
>>63978021
its not a plinkett review you fucking incoherent retard. have you ever seen a half in the bag on the prequels? moron
>>63977777
Rich Evans didn't like it and Jay didn't really give a shit.
>>63978063
>/tv/ is one person
>>63977570
>thinking that a kneejerk reaction review made at 4am after seeing the movie for the first time at 1 am the day it came out will have the same level of intricacy and insight behind a 70 minute pet-project review made years after the fact
>>63978130
Isn't Mike the one writing the Plinkett reviews?
>>63978166
Mike is Plinkett
>>63978034
Have you watched the video? They talk about things that they liked and didn't like, but ultimately agree that the movie was still enjoyable to watch. People without autism are able to accept that not everything has to be flawless to be enjoyed.
>>63978157
Wow, it's almost like making a review as a kneejerk response to please Redditors is a bad idea.
TFA would not get the pass it does without the Prequels, to be honest. Only by going, well, it's not as bad as it could've been, can you justify that piece of shit.
>>63978192
So why is he so lenient on TFA while going ape shit on the prequels? All I ask for is consistency.
>>63977838
>>63977863
>soundtracks
>clone wars
>Sheev
>>63978247
Because TFA wasn't total shit like the prequels were.
I'm sure Mike might nit pick the shit out of it eventually though.
>>63978269
>muh duel of fates
Why does everyone consider that a saving grace for shit movies
>>63978341
>Because TFA wasn't total shit like the prequels were.
But it was. But I don't expect RLM to care since they love capeshit anyways.
>>63978269
Duel of the Fates is great. Williams had a decent moment or two in the prequels, but he also had misses like the entire AotC score. Sheev was ridiculous, as much as I love Sheevposting and the CGI clones were a joke.
>>63978404
>but he also had misses like the entire AotC score
The Arena and Love Across the Stars are really good.
>>63978404
>misses like the entire AotC score
This one was good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM_ZWnD40aA
Reddit loves TFA because it has a wisecracking funnyman like in their Marvel movies
>>63978496
>Reddit loves TFA because it has a wisecracking funnyman like in the OT
>>63978475
>this one song was good so the movie is good
They had years to digest the prequels individually and what they meant as a whole. When attack of the clones came out, people didn't shit on it all that much compared to what they do now. I remember a lot of the reaction at the time just being how cool it was to see a bunch of Jedi fighting. It takes time unless it's something truly horrible like Prometheus.
They definitely softened up lately, I think it's just because they want to release videos really quickly. It's obvious that not all that much thought goes into them.
Plus, Plinkett is the angry autustic side of him.
They also love it because it's progressive.
>>63978553
How did you get that from what I said?
>>63978625
>sorting by best
If you're going to browse reddit, you have to sort by controversial.
>>63978496
I rewatched ANH a few days ago and honestly there's as much quipping as there is in your average Marvel movie.
>>63977687
>>63977838
>>63977863
Exposed Reddit, feel free to disregard these opinions everyone
>>63978692
thanks for the tip reddit
>>63978553
I'll take reading comprehension for 400.
>>63978496
that line felt out of place in a Star Wars film
>>63978496
>>63978625
>blatantly browsing Reddit
Man things have really changed around here. At least in the past people posting about reddit would feel embarassed.
Why do you people still care about Star Wars? It's a kids movie and always has been one. If you're an adult and arguing about these movies then you need to get a life.
>>63978496
wait... REDDIT likes something? I HATE IT NOW! I HATE IT!
>>63978496
>>63978625
You seem like a reddit expert, anon. You should go check it out some more.
>people unironically believe TFA is as bad as the prequels turned out to be
you niggers srs?
>>63978737
>maybe if i shitpost enough about reddit the TFA tourists will leave my board so i can do some more pedoposting
no
>>63978788
>>63978799
>>63978797
Reddit exposed
>>63978838
>pedoposting
it's cunny you goddamn tourist
>>63978896
I know what you pedophiles call it. That doesn't mean that you're not a disgusting pedophile that should kill yourself. :^)
>pedophile exposed
>>63977815
>I don't know what I'm talking about
>>63978759
>>63978662
Samefag, 800 Alex
The Plinkett reviews are a mix of Rich and Mike.
Rich was much less pleased with TFA than Mike was. Mike just wanted a Star Wars movie and that's what JJ gave him.
JJ saw that people just wanted the old Star Wars and just made that.
>>63978864
>reddit exposed
most reddit thing I've heard on this site baka senpai
>>63977570
>I don't understand the difference between glaring storytelling failures and minor nitpicks: the post
>>63979104
Rich was still pretty okay with TFA though
>>63979104
Old Star Wars movies were mostly self-contained. TFA makes no sense if watched alone.
>>63979159
Being okay with TFA is a fine reaction, which surprised me since Rich spergs out usually.
>>63979209
>TFA makes no sense if watched alone.
How come? All characters and events are explained pretty well, even if its' just with a throwaway line.
>>63979159
Yeah, but he saw what it was more than Mike did.
TFA isn't terrible, it's just a rehash that hits all of the beats of the originals, mostly ANH and Jedi.
Like Jay said, it's just a dumb Space Movie, not some terribly deep thing that needs to be glorified.
TFA was a Star Wars movie. It was so much a Star Wars movie that it was almost too Star Wars, and that's what the fans wanted.
Rich was fine with it because it was competent. It's not like he praised it like Mike did.
>>63979353
>that's what the fans wanted
No shut up, nobody wanted more Star Wars movies. It needed to die.
>>63979114
>glaring storytelling failures
Plenty in TFA.
>>63977570
wait, were they not being serious in the end? I thought their entire review was a joke?
>>63977570
Mike has always been a problem. Jessi and drinking has ruined what was going to be a majestic man.
Thank heavens for Jay. At least his hipster thoughts allow him to like shit that's not designed for man children.
>>63979464
But Jay liked it more than Rich did
>>63977777
THE QUINTS HAVE SPOKEN
>>63977687
Prequels have very few redeeming qualities. BUT at least the fan service and gender/racial politics didn't ruin them. It's was George's ineptitude to make a movie after not doing it for 22 years.
JJ was just sucking the franchise cock. He shoved his old R2 up his ass and directed a light lens flare take on Star Wars.
>>63978115
what the fuck are you babbling about you imbecile?
>>63979682
please read again you crippled shitstain
>>63979568
How did the gender/racial politics ryin TFA if Finn and Poe were amongst the best characters?
Do you think they considered a black Indiana Jones or Luke Skywalker or maybe they were specifically looking for white actors?
>>63979259
T H I S
B
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>>63977987
>soulless
>lacks emotion
Nice meme
The prequels failed to connect to the audience on an emotional level
this film accomplished that
that's the ultimate failing of the prequels that episode 7 got right
>>63979840
>this film accomplished that
If you're 7 and this is your first movie.
Ironically I watched PreRec and AIDSMoby and Rich's opinions on the movie were a lot more aligned with /tv/'s than Mike and Jay's.
Never would have thought Jack would actually be the one talking sense, but here we stand.
>>63977920
have you ever fucking been to reddit? it's literally a prequel circlejerk about how they are actually good. but anything I disagree with is a pleb reddit opinion lel the prequels were actually gold and TFA is made by a nigger loving kike haha
>>63979773
>huge emphasis on Asian pilots or female pilots
>Rey is a special character
>most evil characters are gawky pale white dudes
TFW made sure it included everyone. Fine. But to say shit like Rey is a perfect character is a stretch.
>>63977956
He looks like Snape.
>>63979912
Thats the irony of all this prequel apologist shit posting. Its the most reddit opinion you can have
>>63979770
your post is still as incoherent as it was before.
OP whined about how mike didn't give TFA the plinkett treatment, while completely ignoring the fact that the prequels fucked up on a very basic level while TFA didn't.
>>63979313
>All characters and events are explained pretty well
No they are not. Let's try to watch the opening text pretending it is a movie of its own:
>Luke Skywalker is missing!
Who? Why?
>But an old ally of the Resistanse has the piece of map to find him!
Who is that ally? What is the Resistanse? Why didnt that ally told everyone already?
>And so general Organa, former princess Leia, sends her best pilot
Who again? And, since the title ends with line about him, why is this pilot guy barely in the movie?
And so on.
>>63979952
One asian pilot with only a name given in supplementary material is hardly indicative of any thing.
Also you're acting like a qt asian pilot is a bad thing.
Rey's character and adaptability is by far the weakest aspect of the film. Agreed
>>63979912
reddit normies shit on the prequels just like every other website in existence. it's practically an unspoken rule.
>>63979353
>it was almost too Star Wars, and that's what the fans wanted
Well that confirms them being dumbasses.
>>63980021
>fucked up on a very basic level while TFA didn't.
But TFA did. A copypaste movie is inherently shit.
>>63977956
>that giant poofy hair
Why in the fuck would you have a character that's supposed to be wearing a helmet-wask have that kind of hair?
It's not like he could be copying Anakin's long hair, since all he knows about is Vader.
>>63980023
You should compare that with the other title crawls in the series, since its fairly close in tone and delivery.weakest title crawl since the prequels though
>>63977570
Plinkett is a character you fuck, that's why he nitpicks everything. Mike is a real person.
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE TO ACT LIKE A BUNCH OF CONTRARIAN FAGGOTS?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>63980023
>It is a period of civil war. Rebel spaceships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire.
Who are the rebels? Who is the Galactic Empire? Why is it evil?
>During the battle, Rebel spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire's ultimate weapon, the DEATH STAR, an armored space station with enough power to destroy an entire planet.
How did they steal it? Also if the plans are secret how did they know about them?
>Pursued by the Empire's sinister agents, Princess Leia races home aboard her starship, custodian of the stolen plans that can save her people and restore freedom to the galaxy....
Who is she? Why didnt she give those plans to someone already?
>>63980167
What's /r9k/'s opinion of TFA?
>>63980167
You are using the meme wrong newfriend
>>63977815
This is epic
>>63980069
except it's not. you can dislike it for that reason, but it doesn't mean that it's shit. the plot for ANH is pretty basic anyway.
>>63979906
>AIDS
Where did they opine about the stars war?
>>63980299
Yes it does. A literal copypaste is worse than original stories. Fuck TFA. Barely a movie of its own. Felt fake and safe as fuck.
>If you think the prequels are shit you're from reddit
But I've never once posted on reddit, and the sequels are shit.
>trying to watch plinkett reviews
>WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR FACE xDDdD
>WHO WANTS A PIZZA ROLL xddDD
holly fuck they literally are reddit-tier
>>63980023
>doesn't know what serials are
>>63977570
They should have done the review like, a week later, not right after the screening. It's obvious Mike bought into the hype and Jay and Rich didn't want to spoil it for him.
>>63977920
>>63978737
So now it's reddit to think the prequels are shit? Jesus fucking christ /tv/ how contrarion do we need to be.
>>63978496
>implying young obi wan wasn't a handsome wisecracker like han solo
>implying that line was in any way "human" and did not require balls of steel
>>63980384
plinkett is reddit: the character
TFA felt like a Star wars movie the prequels didnt they were fucking awful.
>>63980167
At this point i'm so lost i don't know anymore if you mean to go against the "contrarians" or the ones memeing who says TFA was mediocre
>>63980129
Yes, they are really weak. They concentrate on the very wrong points, making viewer feel that Poe is going to be main character, for example. Or the whole "old ally" part - you can pretty much remove it and there will be one hole less in the plot (aka why didnt that ally tell them already). The title crawls, well as far as i understand it, are needed to quickly familiarize viewer with the basics of a universe (there is a rebellion, there is an evil empire, it have superweapon which can make it unbeatable and Leia has vital information to destroy it), not to explain plot, not in the trilogy's first movie at least. ANH didnt even had in-universe terms like Jedi. Even ESB crawls can pretty much explain the movie to the one who didnt watch Ep4 (which has some flaws too). TFA, on the other hand, dont even bother with explanation, and it is much needed (Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen from the ashes of the Empire and will not rest until Skywalker, the last Jedi, has been destroyed. - seriously, if you are not a SW fan, you will probabli be confused as hell with this).
>>63980356
>felt fake and safe as fuck
what did you expect from an advertisement wars movie? an avant-garde experimental flick? they absolutely needed to get this one right, and to that end they used a pretty basic and straightforward plot. again, the plot in ANH is not that original or unique.
>A literal copypaste is worse than original stories
not by default, no. by this standard, Miami Connection is better than Yojimbo because the former tells an original story.
>>63977570
RLM became shit after they released their last ever Plinkett review.
I'm considering unsubbing.
>>63980549
>muh feeeels
>not muuuuuh
What a post.
> Nitpicking
People should maybe watch the entirety of the reviews before making these sorts of claims.
https://youtu.be/c_W5OuuV-hk?t=6m12s
>>63980725
>I'm considering unsubbing
Literally nobody cares, faggot.
>>63980615
all the normies I know think the film is mediocre and are generally deflated.
then again I'm in my 30s so it's possible that younger fans are being blinded by hype more.
>>63978496
>film needed a Han Solo type
>Han Solo is already in the movie
>>63978496
Hello Reddit
>>63980916
Or you and your friends are plebs that can't recognise a good movie.
>>63980964
What the fuck is good about it? Micheal Bay could have put together a better movie than this hack.
Star wars autists/manchildren are the only ones who hates the prequels.
These people are so autistic that they literally prefer remakes rather than something fresh.
>>63977687
>TFA was a good watch
Amazingly Finn was more compelling and believable to me, as was Kylo. Rey was a Mary Sue. The entire New Order and Resistance or whatever made no fucking sense at all, J.J. is a fucking hack.
Sure, TFA is technically marvellous but it just feels like Star Wars Into darkness for some reason, can't say why and the darker bits on any ship felt like Nero's throne room from Star Trek 09. Fucking Rey being a Mary Sue fucked me over but not as bad as the bigger badder death star. Fuck disney and fuck J.J. for insisting on a bigger death star and how it had a weakness only a rag tag bunch could exploit. why not a virus wiping out worlds and han and leia dying trying to save and shuttle victims to safety, why a death star? why not a virus which is controlled at a centralized location and the new republic literally gets all of obliterated throwing there entire fleet at this rag tag bunch of hold outs from non aligned worlds who created the new empire and follows snoke who was the one who created this new virus with thousands of systems joining the new empire in order not to be wiped out by the plague...why a bigger and equally as flawed, death star?
why rehash a new hope? why make Rey an obvious cash grab character to sell star wars to girls? didn't they think making her so powerful would cheapen and lessen her accomplishments? i literally felt nothing for rey, and everything she encountered, from her time being captured to her telepathic session with kylo to her final fight with him was like something J.J. and Disney set up just so Rey could Mary Sue her way out of it. Now they're calling this fucking lousy shit character a feminist Icon? is this fucking real life, or is this some kind of fucking nightmare?
dafuq is going on here? Han dies and Leia hugs, REY? Fuck is this shit?
>>63981087
A fresh turd is still a turd
>>63980725
i can't stand these guys.
>>63980833
The X-Wing battle at the end on the Starkiller is just as bad and "dense" as the coliseum fight in AotC.
>>63980833
>you see, the originals borrowed from a wide range of media
>in 2000, Lucas seen the Gladiator and decided that he'd want an arena
>And a futuristic city like in Blade Runner
So in 2000 borrowing from wide array of cultural artifacts becames bad somehow. Yet another reason why shitkett's reviews are three hours of loud "NOT MUUUUUUUHHHHH!!!!!!!!".
>>63981171
thanks for your input! we really appreciate it!
>>63981147
jesus
I never thought I would agree so much with someone on 4chan
rey was OP as fuck
>>63978221
Because obviously no one here watched it or was interested. That's why this thread exists. Those darn Redditors, it's all their fault!
>>63981204
This. And destruction of the core is very anticlimactic. Hell, it looked more like a flyby, and music tone didnt even change.
>>63981210
he's implying that those decisions were done for more cynical reasons.
nobody gave a fuck about old 40s/50s serials back when SW and indiana jones first came out. those aesthetic decisions were made because they had a genuine passion for and love of those serials.
>>63981269
also apparently X-wing's blasters can cause massive explosions where ever they hit, if the plot requires it at that moment.
>>63977570
Half in the Bag is not a Mr. Plinkett review.
>>63981332
But everything in TFA was done for the same reason. It's why we got an even bigger and deadlier Death Star, an even older and wackier Yoda, a desert planet, and so on. It was all just to make money because it's what the dumbass fanboys want.
>>63981359
>A barrage balloon, sometimes called a "blimp", is a large balloon tethered with metal cables, used to defend against aircraft attack by damaging the aircraft on collision with the cables, or at least making the attacker's approach more difficult.
>TFW couple of them in the tunnels could have saved both Death stars and Starkiller
>>63981332
>he's implying that those decisions were done for more cynical reasons
That's literally NOT MUH. Literally.
>>63979906
I fucking knew it. The negative downboats on PreRec puzzles me at first, but then I realized that it's not quite the RLM main channel.
>>63981385
Doesn't mean they can't criticize a film in depth on half in the bag. They've done it several times.
But still, TFA and the prequels aren't really comparable. TFA is at the very least good, whereas the prequels are awful.
>>63980833
>My Way instrumental
I don't care about the memes, these reviews are carefully crafted pieces of art.
>>63979259
This
>>63978715
this is a lie, because I did the same thing.
>>63981491
Besides SPLOSIOOOONS and Han Solo!!!! what is good about TFA? It shits on the OT, it fails to develop any original characters, and for trying to copy ANH its plot is fucking retarded with a map to Luke and a bigger badder deathstar.
>>63981581
>it fails to develop any original characters
Prequel kids are completely delusional at this point.
>>63978715
>ANH
Please stop this, it's called Star Wars.
>>63981581
>it fails to develop any original characters
That's not true, Po and Fin are good (the credit goes to actors though).
>It shits on the OT
> its plot is fucking retarded
This is true and it is sad.
>>63979259
>4chan
>a hack
>another hack
>>63981424
Oh obviously there was lots and lots of cynicism involved in the making of TFA, I mean it's a movie with a 4 billion trillion dollar budget.
But at the same time, those things that they happened to do, like practical effects, is what incidentally makes for a good movie. And the characters were about as unique as you can get in this type of movie.
As far as the death star thing goes, yeah that was lazy. But it didn't make the movie ''bad'' the same way the prequels were.
RLM are the living embodiment of the smug, detached Gen-X ethos.
I'd venture to guess none of them has felt a single sincere conviction about anything since childhood. They exist as polyps upon the colon of culture, satiating themselves on the perceived failures of others (i.e. "The Man") while adding nothing new to the discourse aside from ironic complaint.
They're a group of insecure, lost, rapidly aging burnouts who silently believe they could do a better job of making films than the professionals in the industry. Yet they lack the ambition and ability to actually enter the very industry they're obsessed with. They choose instead to fuck around and make student film piss-takes well into middle age.
They are awful, awful people. I've met thousands just like them, and the last thing we need is for these people to gain any attention for their navel gazing.
Please, /tv/, do not aspire to become anything like these people. Theirs is a lonely and pathetic road leading to depression and a life devoid of real purpose.
I hope they disappear and their disaffected followers stop subsidizing their lifestyle. Perhaps that would force them to do something productive with themselves.
>>63981624
Poe gets 15 mins
Finns character development is finished once he meets Rey
Rey is a complete and total mary sue used more as an infallible plot device to move the show along than anything resembling an actual character, and her use of the force is against everything currently in SW canon to that point.
How can you justify a THIRD fucking Death star?????????
These people are idiots.
>>63980224
>How did they steal it? Also if the plans are secret how did they know about them?
This is pushing it a bit right here. Maybe a dictionary is what you really need if words are so hard?
>Who is she? Why didnt she give those plans to someone already?
At the time a long distance message was pretty unbelievable. So, selective technology I guess.
But still beats the hell out of TFA which has the evil first order fighting a resistance backed by the republic, none of which really makes sense in context or out of it.. It generally confuses exactly how much power is held by each side.
The whole first scene is a disgusting rehash of the first scene of ANH though.
>>63981581
>SPLOOOOSHIONS
As opposed to the subtle and low-key storytelling of the prequels? The 40 minute lightsaber fight at the end of ROTS was awful.
And what's wrong with bringing Han Solo back? Besides, they kill him right in the first episode.
As far as the original characters are concerned, it does a surprisingly good job at developing them.
>>63981734
>Finns character development is finished once he meets Rey
Oh, so some other character wanted to escape to outer rim. How was his name again?Him escaping and finding Luke himself eventually would be much better than the stupidity with map and R2D2 though.
>>63981826
>How can you justify a THIRD fucking Death star
This is like complaining about armies still using guns and governments still building nukes. It's an effective weapon.
>>63977570
>He thinks youtube nobodys are immune to payola.
>>63977838
It doesn't fail in,
>Liam Neeson as Qui-Gon
>Ewan Mcgregor as Obi-Wan
>Ian Mcdiarmid as Sheev
>John Williams' memorable score
>the Duel of the Fates duel with Maul
>the opera scene
>the prequels being an alegory of our very own political climate
>creature design
>character design
>art direction
>sound design (waaaaay superior to Force Awakens actually)
>the Ben-Hur inspired podracing sequence
>CGI work (best at the time)
>miniature/bigature model work
>interesting and exotic locations
The prequels weren't great, but hey definitely had good, quality elements to them and are memorable and well done in their own right.
>>63981933
It's a plot device that has been used three times. Shitty writing.
>>63981886
>And what's wrong with bringing Han Solo back?
Why? He looks so old and tired at screen, just like Leia, that i cannot help but feel better when Kylo puts him out of his misery.
>>63981933
It's not really effective when it constantly gets blown up the exactly same way.
>>63981933
>effective weapon
It took like 50 years to build and managed to blow up one planet full of pacifists before being destroyed by a bunch of teenagers.
And the second one was destroyed by spear chucking teddy bears
And the third one was destroyed by a Janitor
>>63977687
wrong, the prequels were garbage. The new movie is a cliche cash grab with a bunch of ham-fisted fanfare nods.
I liked the movie through the first 3rd, after that the plot holes piled up fast.
JJ Abrams is a fucking hack, good thing he won't be directing the next episode.
>>63977570
What are some other jewtube review channels with a similar entertainment value for either movie, tv, games? Mostly interested in the old 30-40 year olds being drunk having banter and clearly being somewhat knowledgeable about the behind the scenes aspects of the shit they review.
reminder
>>63982038
If Disney actually cared about putting out a good product instead of capeshit cashgrabs, this point would be moot.
>>63981963
the podracing was good.
sheev was good, very entertaining.
John Williams' score for the first episode was very good. Duel of the Fates is great, but the fight itself was bad,
the rest is wrong.
>>63981933
no, it's incredibly expensive and huge and apparently just as flawed as all the others.
it was used because J.J. and the Mouse are hack artist only interested in A New Hope 2.0 pandered they did this shill of a movie hoping that it would some how be as culturally significant as A New Hope was. If that was their hope, which it probably was then they failed horribly. a bigger and badder and just as fucking retardedly weak death star is pure shit and shows their lack of creativity.
>>63982065
Left needs more based Lucas.
>>63982065
False analogy, there's literally 0 memes on the right.
>>63981994
>It's a plot device that has been used three times
They use guns in all WW2 movies, I guess they are all shit then.
>>63981963
>the Ben-Hur inspired podracing sequence
I hate to disappoint you anon, but it was inspired by norwegian stop-motion cartoon of 1975.
https://vimeo.com/84289137
TFA felt more true to the originals than the prequels. Whilst it had its gimmicks they were throw backs instead of shit like Jar Jar Binks.
>>63979912
>>63980061
One of you is lying but both of you are from Reddit so I'm at a loss as to who's opinion I should disregard.
>>63977570
>nonsensical plots, horrible characterization, and bad acting are nitpicks
Whatever you say, OP.
>>63981963
This is why even mediocre prequels are better than The Capeshit Awakens.
>>63982027
Not to mention that it's just very unrealistic that the empire would actually destroy a planet. It's an awful waste of resources.
A whole planet destroyed. Natural resources, living space, etc. It's a waste of money.
>>63982107
Revenge of the Sith's final battles were a ladtage that surpassed Empire and A new Hope saber battles.
Return of the Jedi blows them all out of the water though...before the Emperor was marvellous done both musically and visually.
>>63982027
>And the third one was destroyed by a Janitor
But they got to completely wipe out their major enemy with it. The entire enemy fleet is gone as it's their main political and economic center.
So it was a good investment.
>>63982210
a virus would have made more sense but whatever.
>>63982210
Agreed. One Star Destroyer is apparently enough to raze the entire surface of a planet, so why build one Death Star if you can make eight thousand Star Destroyers?
>>63982003
Well, that was part of why they're bringing them back. In order to give closure. Ford always wanted Solo to die, and now Solo gets to die, nobly.
I didn't think it was a very elegant death, something about it felt off (maybe that Han should've died in TESB) but better late than never. And also, it's the only way to get the cinematic SW universe off the ground again. If they said ''We gonna make a SW trilogy but it won't have any real connection to the OT even though the original cast is still alive,'' nobody would care.
>>63982144
>They use guns in all WW2 movies, I guess they are all shit then.
Call back when they will use guns in WWII movies as plot devices, three times in a row in the same series.
>>63982144
Just give up.
Even the most hardcore lovers of the OT will admit that it was a bit silly to introduce a second Death star in RotJ.
>>63982210
When a dog is beyond saving it's better to just put it to sleep to end it's suffering.
Like Lucas, Mike spent every idea he had pretty early. He was scared to go in again.
>>63982224
Yeah it was really lucky all the planets where in viewing distance of each other so that the beam could magically split and blow them all up at one time.
(Wtf was that?)
>>63982278
Yes, but you don't have to destroy the planet where the dog lives.
>>63982215
>Revenge of the Sith's final battles were a ladtage that surpassed Empire
>>63977777
Checked
>>63982257
>The Guns of Navarone
>Force 10 from Navarone
kill yourself now please.
>>63982257
Every single WW2 movie uses guns as plot devices.
>>63982254
>better late than never
Not in that case. Han Solo in TFA ignored all the character progression from the originals.
>nobody would care about the multimillion release in Star wars franchise if old cast will not be in it
Do you honestly believe this?
>>63982224
> entire republic fleet all in one system
Not even Georgie would write something that pants on head. Look at all these systems damnit.
>>63982328
The Empire's fight of Luke Vs his Father musically wasn't as moving as Obi Wan and Anakin fighting on an ocean of lava. Stop for a moment and think about, really thin about it. let's forget for a moment that most of the prequels scenes were shitty and think about the impactfulness between Anakin and Obi Wan on Mustafa fighting on an endless ocean of molten Lava. For the love of all that's sweet, ignore their spoken bits, and just listen to the music.
>>63982385
The same Republic that didn't even recommission mothballed Star Destroyers? That Republic?
>>63977570
>Where were you when RLM died and became a glorified Disney advertising channel?
I was un-subscribing from there YT channel and getting banned from their cesspool forum
>>63977570
I was sobbing on my bed shouting, "You fucked it up Mike! You bastard!"
I've been betrayed and will never trust again.
>>63982288
>the beam could magically split and blow them all up at one time.
>(Wtf was that?)
It's how modern nuclear weapons are delivered.
>>63982433
don't blame the actualizations Lucas established on the horrible plot holes J.J. crafted in TFA!
>>63982433
See why wouldnt they? What was that from? Some new canon bullshit?
>>63982385
It's not the same Republic though, it's probably much smaller.
>>63982458
They travel in a single beam and then split when they get close to their target?
But I was talking more about why where all the fucking planets so close to each other?
>>63982385
They had New Respublic disband the army in novellisation just to "not make the old respublic mistakes".
>>63982364
Try ones that are not about SPLOOOSIOOONS.
>>63982353
Yeah, those guns definitely was the ultimate superweapon impossible to destroy to anyone but the protagonist himself. And we totally meant heavy artillery, and not rifles and machine guns. Fuck you.
>>63982419
>ignore their spoken bits
How can anyone ignore that stupidly retarded dialogue? Or the fact that it drags for too long? Or that they jump and swing around green screens with no emotion involved?
>>63982367
It didn't ignore ALL of the character progression from the OT. I said that I didn't think it was a very elegant death, all things considered, but it was fine enough.
>Do you honestly believe this
These are beloved characters, and people wanted to revisit them after all these years. It was perfect from Disney's pov. Even Lucas, who told these supposedly experimental and risky tales, just made a prequel trilogy about Vader and Obi-Wan, because that's what people care about.
If you want those record breaking box office bucks you gotta them original cast members.
>>63982492
One system does not a republic make. This is why at least the title crawl or 5 minutes of the movie should have been taken to establish a galactic state of being. Because the promo material does not mesh with the movie at all.
>its a death star because its round and shoots stuff
at least it was more original than the crap in rotj
>>63982516
>They travel in a single beam and then split when they get close to their target?
Something like that.
>>63982458
>tangible nuclear missile vs. sentient energy beam
the fact someone would even posit such a response really, truly (honestly) should result in their deportation and gifting to "ISIS"... sincerely
>>63982458
It's a LASER.
They travel in a SINGLE DIRECTION until acted upon by a force.
MIRVs are solid projectiles which are acted upon by forces such as friction and specific impulse of the rocket itself. Hence in your example they would split
>>63982612
>One system does not a republic make
It's not the entire republic, it's just where the senate and fleet resides. They clearly state this in the film.
>>63982619
Those are warheads with guidance systems.
Not beams of energy
>>63978761
Absolutely. I aactually cringed, but luckily he redeemed himself in the rest of the film.
>>63982552
but look how well they are spinning their lightsabers. isn't that great?
and we also see Yoda do backflips while having a lightsaber fight with bela lugosi. wasn't that really awesome when he did those backflips?
>>63982552
>104 Juche is coming to an end
>not realise that that scene is meant to be a show of how carried both Anakin and Obi-Wan are with their knowledge of styles and stances and that they need to let the emotion in to fight each other
>>63982552
>this is useless
they're imbued with about as much Force that was ever in a single place in the SW universe at that time... I think they could have danced the jig and it still could have been somehow qualified
...as opposed to a dilettante dyke going god mode
>>63982652
No they fucking do not. Show me webm where that happens. Literally nobody could name that system leaving the theatre, and half thought it was coruscant.
>>63982682
>a wisecrack from a dashing, confident, irreverent ace fighter pilot character is out of place
le cringe xD
>>63982643
>It's a LASER.
>They travel in a SINGLE DIRECTION until acted upon by a force.
not quite -- until its path is IMPEDED or the beam is refracted / deflected
but the 'science' of sci-fi is immaterial... the issue is the inane scripting, direction and thought processes involved in the wroughting of such a schlock
>>63982715
>going god mode
>knocks a guy backwards until he falls
yeah, thats much more OP than flipping around like a fucking retard
>>63982751
>wisecrack
It was just a shitty line. Something a child says on stage during a play.
>>63982693
>wasn't that really awesome when he did those backflips?
Yes it was. It added a layer of depth to his character, the style (backflips) itself did.
>>63982630
You are trying to make sense of a movie with space magic.
It's a visual reference, it doesn't need to make sense.
>>63977570
Why does Mike look like he'd reek of piss, shit and BO? I just get that feeling when I look at him.
>>63982726
Hux clearly says that they are going to destroy the senate and the fleet. Watch the movie again and see for yourself.
A THIRD DEATH STAR
People will actually defend this. Wow. This is why prequel haters can't be taken seriously. They also complain about jarjar but loves the ewoks
>>63977570
RLM died when they became a mouth piece for Gen X redditors
That's why Spacecop is taking so long. Mike and Jay know in thier cynical hearts they can never make anything great so they shit on others people's work just to feel better about themselves
Garbage like Feeding Frenzy and Gorilla Interrupted already proves that these hacks will never accomplish anything in their lifes
>>63982802
>It added a layer of depth to his character
>turning a wise old sage into an action figure is depth
Are you fucking kidding?
>>63982797
it sounded like something a character like Poe Dameron would actually say when he is at the mercy of someone like Kylo Ren.
do you also complain about how Han Solo didn't take things seriously enough the majority of the OT and how he made wisecracks?
TFA was no good.
RLM has changed.
it's no longer about original content, epic GETs, and win it's an endless series of reposts, perpetuated by newfags and trolls fail - and its consumption of RLM, has become an unstoppable cancer. RLM has changed.
>>63979259
>>63981699
It all makes sense
>both 4chan and Lucas got heavily inspired by asians
>both Reddit and JJ takes thier "OC" from 4chan/Lucas
>>63982940
No i am not. Turning a weird hermit monk into a brilliant strategist and fighter whose style is basically his "Do. Or do not" philosophy in practical form and who has damn good reason to exile himself is depth. Your only argument against it is NOT MUUUUUUUUH. Get over it.
>>63982778
Apologies, have to brush up on optics.
Much like the explanation, the film was indeed flawed.
>>63982552
the only thing that lacked emotion or realism was REY. REY as a character is literally dull, uninteresting and over powered for no reason at all. The battle between Anakin and Ben was more compelling to me than Rey out force uses Kylo.
>>63982940
no, he is not kidding.
another part I liked about the prequels was the lightsaber fight between maul and gin and kenobi. it was hella fucking epic. the fights in the OT always felt sooooooooo fucking boring. like, who fucking cares? lol.
>>63983022
>mfw RLM has become the very same thing they fought agaisnt.
>>63983178
Stay mad. You are not Star wars fan, you are Plinkett's whore. And you know it better than i do.
>>63983171
Rey performance shows all the emotions involved really well. JJ also knows exactly when close ups are necessary and when the emotion can be seen just in the way she swings the sword.
>>63983178
Fuck RLM for suggesting otherwise but even as a young child all those years ago, I found the fights to be boring as shit. Fuck Mike and his try hard shit. The best part about the Prequels were the saber duels, fuck anyone who says otherwise.
>>63983131
why did Yoda need the cane then?
also, backflips = brilliant strategist and fighter
he came across like a senile doofus in the prequels.
>>63983261
>>63983290
Yeah guys they were hella epic!!!!!!!!!
>>63983265
Rey was a cookie cutter princess that had as much depth as a bucket of piss. Padme was stiff as shit in AOTC but in ROTS she becomes more compelling to me and as wooden as she still was, she was way more interesting than Rey ever was.
>>63983261
>>63983290
>mad little kids
>>63980023
This is the sort of person who wants the opening crawl to be the novelization.
>>63983363
>but in ROTS she becomes more compelling to me
maybe if you have brain damage
>>63983363
Why? What depth did she have?
