Rate TFA out of 10
>>63973273
10 come at me faggots
4/10, slightly below average
>>63973273
OT > shit > III >>> TFA and I >>>>>>>>>>>> II
4/10
>copy and paste of ANH
>constant pandering and fan service
>uninspired photography
>horrible pacing after Jakku
>Rey's invulnerability
i'd give it a 5
Solid 5
>>63973273
Anybody that says this movie is bad is just being a contrarian fedora-tipping edgefag, which is honestly pretty typical of /tv/ by now.
I'd give 8/10. My only problems with it are that the movie has the same "skeletal structure" of ANH, and Rey being so quick to competently use the Force with no prior learning.
The worst star wars because it isn't star wars
It's a copy of Star wars
6/10
>>63973663
>anybody who disagrees with me is contrarian
I believe there is a site where you can express your widely held views and have them reaffirmed, with such disgusting dissent being hidden from view
You should look into it
>>63973663
>Anybody that says this movie is bad is just being a contrarian fedora-tipping edgefag, which is honestly pretty typical of /tv/ by now.
Most people that didn't like it aren't calling it a horribly bad film. Just mediocre.
Capeshit/10
Disney/10
Bring back the madman, this marvel capeshit wannabe fucking sucks
>>63973273
6/10. A worse copy of anh. I'd rather watch anh. Only redeeming things were the costumes, sets and effects.
9
>>63973755
>>63973774
What made it a near masterpiece for you?
>>63973273
Reminder:
http://strawpoll.me/6319517/r
http://strawpoll.me/6319517/r
http://strawpoll.me/6319517/r
>>63973663
>guaranteed replies
wakemeup/10
>>63973728
>person disagrees with edgelord /tv/ hivemind
>respond with le reddit meme
>that'll show him
>>63973897
>http://strawpoll.me/6319517/r
let people vote 3 most favourite.
Oh wait, you wont because TFA would be destroyed. Go back to your Disney containment website
>>63973897
>TFA over ANH
What a bunch of fucking degenerates.
5/10
I surprisingly enjoyed the weepy millennial Darth Vader fanboy, Adam Driver really knocked it out of the park, I thought. Finn was fun, but his change of heart happened too quickly, and was ultimately just a comic relief character. Rey was cute and likable, but kind of boring. Poe is barely there. Also major props to Ford not phoning it in, he really gave a shit and delivered a great performance.
They have a good cast but now they just need to put them in an interesting movie. I kept reading that the movie was ANH rehashed but holy shit you really have no idea until you see it.
I found a lot of the movie boring and the Luke's lightsaber plot was fucking retarded. The wand chooses the wizard. I mean the lightsaber chooses, wait, what? No. That's retarded.
>>63973927
you still have nothing to say except it was good and you're all shit. Stay mad
>>63973663
>My only problems with it are that the movie has the same "skeletal structure" of ANH
I thought that was the point though.
Lucas said he wanted the three trilogies to mirror each other in structure and themes. While this didn't really hold true for the prequels, the new trilogy definitely seems to be leaning in that direction.
8/10
Only stuff I didn't like were the recycled story elements. Everything else was pretty solid and it met my expectations for a modern Star Wars movie. I'll probably see it at least 3 times in theaters.
8
Worst parts were Finn & Death Star mk3
>>63973273
3/10 almost the purest of shit
>>63973756
>>63973769
This. I'm so sick of the ole "WOW ISN'T THIS SO WEIRD" shtick that seems to be ever present in capeshit and now star wars.
>>63973273
6.5
>>63973927
>/tv/ hive mind
/tv/ is basically in civil war mode of this piece of shit plebian movie
Yes, you should go back to reddit you stupid faggot
>>63973273
Essentially, OP, it goes like this.
If you are a prequel baby: <5/10 it was shit why wasnt kylo ren da coolest guy
If you are an OT man: >5/10 it was close enough to the Star Wars I remembered.
Former group should not post on /tv/.
>>63974044
LUKE
>>63973995
Mirroring theme wise isn't the same as literally mirroring them
I = 3/10
II = 1/10
III = 4/10
IV = 8/10
V = 9/10
VI = 8/10
VII = 7/10
(8 and 9 will probably be a bit better since Rian Johnson is good)
1, because of the obvious racist, liberal and Jewish propaganda.
>>63973997
i was going to type this exact post
>>63974072
> the main argument against the prequels, consisted in every thread about them is trying to shame people without actually arguing
Lol
>>63974044
Like
3-4 and thats me being generous
truly awful
30/10
It was perfect and everyone should watch it three times.
>>63973735
I've seen countless retards (or a handful of samefags) spouting stupid shit like
>worse than the prequels
>pls come back George!
>we miss your boring CGI shitfest, awful dialogue, overly choreographed ballet dances, cringeworthy romance, stone-faced acting, and fucking senile edits to the few good movies you actually made.
>>63974127
Rian Johnson isn't doing 9 though, only 8
>>63973273glib / facsimile
>>63973273
Better than the prequels / 10
So maybe like a 5, 6 at a push.
I have to say 8, it will probably end up being 8.5 on imdb
>>63973897
reddit: the poll
>>63973273
trying very hard to be objective and honest here:
4/10
main things:
>beginning was ok apart from the obvious flaws, I liked Rey the instant I saw her
>Rey was the only good character, and solid acting
>Finn's acting is ok, but his character is absolute shit. they did nothing for him plot wise to make us care for him or use his background etc
>Kylo Ren is the biggest villain faggot I've ever seen. Not only is the actor doing a shit job, he is also very poorly written. Firstly he comes across as a very smart and genius bad guy. Then he turns into a 14 y o angry teen. Then all of a sudden he is not so powerful anymore and also he strikes down his dad without any emotion at all. at least make him a full blown maniac if he is supposed to be overly emotional and close to the edge. etc
>too much go pro action handheld effects and shots. not enough panorama views and typical Lucas ways to tell the story
>why the fuck would they make a third death star. they had every chance to give us something new and exciting. the whole plot is basically a copy
>Phasma could have been a cool character... if we got to know her and they used her.
>too much time passed between ep VI and VII, we dont know what happened, we dont care for the characters because they arent introduced at all. Apart from Rey, and not very much.
>Cringy as fuck dialogue (Poe and Finn for example)
>Really awkward trying to be comedy (storm troopers walking out of Ren)
>I kinda liked that Han died. But not the way he did.
>Old characters werent paid any respect or re introduced the old way (C3PO, R2D2, Leia)
>etc
>sound and music was good but not over the top
>animations and cg were good but what else would you expect
>plot holes
>>63974044
thanks Mr Chinaman
>>63974072
>why wasnt kylo ren da coolest guy
Except this was far from the biggest complaint of the movie. It was a 4/10 for me but Kylo was one of the stronger points of the film.
There are very obvious flaws that even those that liked it can identify.
>>63973273
6/10 to watch once (I wasn't really bored, and the first act is fine because the story is still simple)
3/10 as art
0/10 as an opportunity to make a decent Star Wars film: it may have actually buried the franchise as an immersive world because it totally negated the OT character's achievements.
>>63974264
I bet you're fat
poetry/10
>>63974143
They are poorly written and their characters are wooden. The cinematography is uninspired and there is an over-saturation of CGI. The fight scenes have no pathos and exist to fill the screen with lights and bullshit.
There is more emotion and acting talent in Adam Driver and Harrison Ford's discussion pre-murder than in any scene of the prequel films.
>>63974162
Those people are wrong.
I was more talking about this thread.
>>63973273
5/10
Terrible plot, bad character development, forced emotional scenes, good characters, overall good acting, and fantastic visuals.
pretty much every JJ movie that exists.
>>63973896
it wasfun
>>63973273
6/10, enjoyed myself.
Rey wasn't THAT bad but her constant perfection got tiring. She had a great introduction but started to fall apart once the Jakku escape kicked in.
My inner manchild also couldn't get over why they wouldn't bring y-wings (or some version of them) on a bombing run.
>>63974264
Your assessment of Kylo Ren's character is fundamentally flawed. It is tiring to explain to you people over and over though, so I will just cop out by calling you a fucking aspie.
You people don't learn from discussion anyway, so it's basically the same as intelligently debating you.
5/10
Mediocre. Neither good, nor terrible.
>>63973273
8/10
Better than the 4-6/10 prequels, and 7/10 RotJ, not as good as 9/10 (maybe 10/10) IV and V.
>>63974264
>Not liking Poe and Finn's scenes
Literally the only parts of the movie that Finn was interesting in
>>63974360
Everything after the cgi complaint is wrong
They aren't great movies, they just aren't watery dogshit like the meme lords are insisting
7/10. the kylo wanting to surpass vader plotline was vintage star wars done in its own unique way
>>63974044
Sleep tight Luke
>>63973273
>ANH
8/10
>ESB
10/10
>Rotj
7/10
>TFA
7.5/10
OT >> VII >= III > rest of PT
7/10
>>63974459
>It is tiring to explain to you people over and over though,
try me, I'm listening. I really want to like this movie but I cant, and he is one of the main reasons.
>>63974566
You got it.
TPM: 6.5/10
AOTC: 6/10
ROTS: 7.7/10
ANH
8.2/10
ESB
8.8/10
ROTJ
8/10
TFA
7.5/10
I have a feeling that no matter how this movie would have been done like, there are the same people, likely depressed basement dwellers that would have given it a low score, regardless of how good it would have been. You can ALWAYS find flaws in everything if you search hard enough - and that's what those people do, because they are depressed and nothing can satisfy them.
This movie was FUN as fuck, it entertained, which is why it has an imdb score of 8.7 atm, and FUN is what Star Wars is all about.
5/10
Star Wars done competently, but stripped of its mythic resonance and spiritual centre.
6/10, might be higher once I get over how similar it it is to ANH.
>Worst pacing I've ever witnessed
>Litterally zero world building
>Forgettable effects, photography and OST
>Admiral Ackbar makes a cameo without saying his catchphrase
>Finn somehow manages to swing a lightsaber somewhat decently even if it's his first time and even without "MUH FORCE"
But also
>Finn and his black stereotypes always on point
>Rey a CUTE
>Chewie saves the motherfucking day
>Lots of fanservice
>Ultimate villain is not a white male
>Solo's death scene was actually decent
A solid 6.5/10, shit movie but I enjoyed it. I'm courious to see the new trilogy as a whole.
>>63973273
0/10 ACTING
EXCEPT FOR ADAM DRIVER, EVERYONE ELSE WAS THROWAWAY GARBAGE TIER PERFORMANCES
THEY REALLY UNDERUSED OSCAR ISAAC, FLAT NOTHING CHARACTER. DAISY WAS MARY SUE CRAP AND BOYEGA WASN'T CHARISMATIC ENOUGH TO BE THE CHRIS TUCKER OF STAR WARS
THE GIANT SHIP STICKING ITS FACE OFF THE SCREEN IN IMAX 3D WAS AWESOME
ALSO THE LOW SUN SHOTS, ESPECIALLY THE APOCALYPSE NOW HELICOPTER HOMAGE BUT WITH TIE FIGHTER SILHOUETTES INSTEAD, GOOD SHIT
MOST OF THE BATTLES WERE GOOD, PACING WAS GOOD, ITS A GENERIC JJ ABRAMS FLICK WITH STAR WARS PROPS
>>63973273
POTTERY i tell you POTTERY
No seriously though it was a solid 4/5
>>63974661
Stop letting communities role you up you autistic fanboy. I liked the movie too, people on /tv/ NOT liking it doesn't take away from my experience. I don't have a stake in Star Wars that requires that I shitpost in threads to defend it. Why cant you idiots cope?
>>63973273
8/10
>>63974711
What the fuck did i just watch? no seriously, what the fuck?
i dont know where to start with this monstrosity of a flick. if it wasn't for the obvious faces and lightsabers it would just be the usual high budget flick with the thinking that fancy effects and explosions will make a 'movie' good. fucking wrong.
i couldnt tell if it was at the start, beginning or end due to the lack of structure and plot - infact im still struggling to see what the plot was? the whole thing dragged out to see some old fuck standing on the cliffs - greeeaat.
what really fucking me off was how they mocked the dark side to be a laughing stock. that pathetic joke making the clone troopers run away when kylo was throwing a tantrum.
-kylo was meant to be the evil sith boss but actually got KILLED by a girl using a lightsaber for the FIRST FUCKING TIME. the fucking dindu put up a good fight, they both have zero fucking knowledge in using one, let alone the force in general. what the fuck?
how can anyone possible criticise the prequels with pieces of liberal shit like this one? there were no characters in TFA with any presence, or something that made you think 'wow i like this guy'. the prequels had mace windu, anakin, obi wan, darth vader, darth maul, etc. what did this one have? the characters were fucking dull as fuck, im actually angry as im typing this i just cant get over what i just watched and i need to vent it somewhere.
trust disney to fuck up this bad. i dont even need to mention (but i will anyway) the obvious racism with the dark side being all white, and the 'goodies' being a melting pot of spics, chinks, dindus, females etc. how can this racism even be allowed?
sadly ticket sales determine the success of a film, and so people will feel obligated to think this flick was good but in reality it was tediously boring, which lacked a plot, characters with any redeeming qualities, and made the dark side a joke.
>>63974740
meant 4/5 out of 10
Disney you can get your check back
>>63974044
>>63973273
8.5
>>63974757
Yeah. I liked it too, but didn't love it 7.5/10. All the hate hasn't even affected my opinion. It's definitely a good movie, just not great.
>>63974459
Everyone UNDERSTANDS Kylo's character; his inferiority complex, insecurities, his projection of power onto others.
Some people just don't find the idea of the character to be very compelling or a good idea.
It's not about not understanding him.
>>63974757
I want to penetrate into these people's heads somehow, i want them to know how miserable they are and that, that is the sole reason for their dissatisfaction of everything in their lives, including Star Wars 7.
>>63974661
>This movie was FUN as fuck, it entertained, which is why it has an imdb score of 8.7
it was 9.5 before it released. imagine how much FUN everyone must have had when they'd never even seen it.
>>63973399
This, it was mediocre save for Traitor
>>63974807
>all the hate
sorry to interject but, what hate? Everybody is screaming at the miracle and everytime someone dare to post criticisms gets shut down but meme arrows and shitposting
7.5/10
I'm not a big Star Wars fan
>>63974844
>I want to penetrate into these people's heads somehow
lewd
VII
>>63974874
Most hate is from 4chan.
Most people love it though.
The truth is, it's a typical JJ abrams disneyfied movie. His movies are always 7.5/10. He's only a competent director.
>>63973399
This. Just came back from seeing it. I can't rate it as anything more than a 5.5 movie.
>>63974844
No, YOURE the idiot in need of a safe space who can't cope with conflicting opinions. Fanboys are the worst
>>63974844
>i want them to know how miserable they are
because you're creating an ipothetic word in which you're fighting the angry obtuse contrarians. Instead of realizing the only one that needs validation is you
You need to find other people that tell you how much they liked TFA too.
In other words, projecting. There are good perks and there is also valid criticism about TFA. Accept it
>>63973273
5/10
Basically what >>63973399 said
>>63974661
D-don't disagree with me: The Post
>using an imdb score to defend a movie
Top Kek
>>63973273
1/10 not even eye candy.
5 maybe 6/10. Definately not as good as quality as the OT, which are in the 8s and 9s. Considerably better than Phantom and Clones, I'd probably put it on par or slightly better than Revenge. Pretty poor movie in my opinion and I really hope this isn't a sign of the next 2.
>>63975000
umad?
>>63974661
>IMDB
>>63974661
This.
Fucking nerds
Bunch of basement dwelling dweebs.
Why are we even on 4chan.
Lets get the fuck out of here and go on facebook where the real star wars fans are.
>>63974661
Can we safely assume you also like capeshit and defend it with "it's great if you turn your brain off?"
>>63974844
>you
>calling anyone miserable
wew
7
>>63975107
Rian Johnson is fucked.
TFA has good reviews because of the mess of the prequels and because of pandering to the Star Wars fags.
EP8 will be fucked because Disney will even want more pandering and you can only take that so far.
>>63975107
>VI
>8s and 9s
Spotted the plennial.
8.5/10 it was okay
>>63975195
Didn't the second new star trek movie do well?
I don't think you could pander more than that.
>>63973273
It's a solid 8.
Derivative of New Hope for sure, but sets it up for a really interesting story arc in the next two Episodes. I have no doubt that Episode VIII will be on par with the best Star Wars movies, especially with Rian Johnson at the helm.
However, really worried about Colin Trevorrow directing IX. Jurassic World was the definition of a fucking cash grab.
>>63973273
A solid 8
>>63974695
>Admiral Ackbar makes a cameo without saying his catchphrase
C'mon, that would've been way too much of a meme.
>>63973273
meh/10
>>63974830
>kylo is /r9k/
wow so deep
>>63975330
GUY IN MY THEATER BARKED ITS A TRAP
EVERY TIME AN OLD STAR WARS PERSON SHOWED UP THE WHOLE PLACE CLAPPED
MURRICA...
7ish / 10
Music was too quiet/non-iconic, camera work was too modern, Han didn't work for me, a lot of references or information deliveries (BOWCASTER IS POWERFUL GUYS LOOK AT HAN REALLY ENJOY IT TWICE) were really on the nose, Rey was a little too good at everything, Finn was a little too not good at anything, the plot was really thin on the ground even for Star Wars, the montage of Death Star 3 firing made it look like it toasted Coruscant, Death Star 3 was kind of stupid, the pacing was kind of frantic and we didn't really get to know any place in particular except for Jakku, chrometrooper lady didn't do a damn thing except be a punk bitch, Anakin Skywalker's lightsaber in this lady's basement was really really out there, C3PO didn't quite come off right although he was very close, they used all the girl power on Rey and Leia didn't get to do anything except sit around (since when do generals in Star Wars act like generals anyway), and just about everything had this uncanny valley effect from being redesigned just barely enough to sell new toys but not enough to be different in any noticeable way aside from aesthetics.
Everything else was pretty good. So, like, the first third of it or so until they escape Jakku (aside one or two on the nose references). Poe was a bro and BB8 was more fun than I thought he'd be. Liked Kylo Ren a lot more than I thought I would too, TR8R was a real badass, and some of the humor moments flew a lot better than I thought (Craig's cameo, the two troopers turning around during Ren's temper tantrum, the BB8 thumbs up, etc.)
Overall it was just enough like A New Hope to feel kind of weird and disconcerting, but not enough like it to be anywhere near as good.
Also avoiding spoilers was fucking impossible and I'm taking my frustration out on the movie's score.
>>63975201
"Something is rotten in the state of Denmark."
>>63975263
he'll be working from Rian's script tho. And Colin now has the experience of directing a huge studio movie, so that might help. But yea, Disney could have chosen someone better.
>>63975263
>but sets it up
There has been so much rationalising from people since the movie came out.
Not one single fucking person here or anywhere else said they wanted TFA to be a beat-for-beat copy and paste of ANH before they saw it. Since they've seen it, suddenly a "soft reboot" is what was needed to "set up" the next movies. Fans have been so desperate to like everything about this movie that they've convinced themselves a rehash of Ep4 was not only a good idea, "it was needed".
A solid, somewhat original adventure movie, without constant pandering, and with room for the new characters to breath would have been more than capable of "setting up" the next films.
6/10
/thread
>>63975330
This movie could do with some solid memes. At least then it would be somewhat memorable.
6/10
tree fiddy out of five
8/10
9/10 if you consider the A New Hope aspects to be bookending of the original trilogy and not just a blatant copy paste
literally every character was comic relief, after 20 forced one-liners in the first 30min it got really annoying and stupid
>>63974353
stylistic
>>63973689
Even if you use that argument it's still better than Ep II.
6/10
It's strong up until Han Solo shows up and then it just feels confused. Han is meant to fill the role Obiwan did in the first film but for some reason the writers were reluctant to fully commit to it and he ended up being 25% that and 75% reused memes from the original movie that feel out of place and distracting from the new main characters they spent the first 30+ minutes establishing. Seriously old geezer Han Solo is THE main character of the middle third of the film. It's bizarre. And then because Han Solo is too busy being the same Han Solo as before, they needed to invent some other throwaway character to pick up the 'old mentor' slack in the form of that little alien lady who has Luke's lightsaber for god knows what reason and you can be sure we'll never find out.
And the new deathstar didn't work at all. Right off the bat, something that confuses me is why they didn't show the whole sun-draining process the first time the weapon fired. That might have added some tension to the later sections when you're shown it repeatedly but the point is I felt nothing, and the characters seemed to feel nothing. It just sort of appeared without occasion in the final act of the film because this is starwars and that means there has to be a big space station exploding at the end. It just has no presence at all compared to how well the original was built up in ANH. The fact that they made this one 10x the size and 10x as powerful only makes it more laughable by comparison.
Kylo was fantastic
Leia was awful
That's it.
>>63976345
Slightly more pessimistic than me but I can dig it.
I - 5/10
II - 3/10
III - 7/10
IV - 10/10
V - 7/10
VI - 8/10
VII - 8/10
>>63976345
The middle of the movie is fucked.
Jakku is the strongest part of the film.
9/10
Most fun I've had with a movie in years and up there with the OT.
It was very bland and didn't feel like Star Wars at all.
5/10, 6 at best.
>>63973663
I agree with this. I would've preferred a new story that didn't depend on one all SW fans are so familiar with. Perhaps it was JJ's way of maintaining the SW audience and not alienating them with a completely new story. Honestly guys, he couldn't deny or reject all the things SW look for in the SW universe. I'm pretty sure he'll come up with better lore/story in the next two installments of the series. He just had to pay his respects (memes/nostalgia/etc) to the classics by GL and its audience first. Overall I rate it 10/10. I enjoyed it.
>>63976706
Yeah I honestly have very little negative to say about everything up until Han's freighter.
Maybe this is because up until that point it follows the formula of ANH zealously, at times bordering on shot-for-shot remake, but regardless everything is solid. I especially loved the wide shots of Rey crossing the desert, and the few quick cuts when she first gets into town, eyeing the old woman doing the same work as her and such. Gave me really high hopes for the rest of the film which unfortunately weren't met.
>>63977076
Forgot to add: Maybe Fin's 'development' was a little too sudden. I would have liked him to maybe have a moment of hesitation before he slaughters his former comrades, but that's it really.
>>63973273
I actually liked it better than a new hope
Return of the Jedi is the best Star Wars film btw
>>63973273
5/10
it was okayslightly worse than episode 3
8
At first seeing the Stormtroopers within a moder camera work was kind of strange. The first third s prety good, they came up with some interesting characters, Kylo Ren makes sense. It's too much of a rehash though, and there are too many "wink-wink"throwbacks to the OT. I think they somewhat wanted to reassure the fans, but they definitely played to safe. But they managed to establish a decent array of characters that hopefully can go on some refreshing adventures in the next movies.
All in all is just a competent blockbusterclothed in Star Wars imagery. Way better than the prequels though.
>>63973273
8.137.
>>63977076
>I especially loved the wide shots of Rey crossing the desert,
Defintely got some Moebius vibes from that.
>>63974661
>depressed basement dwellers
Are we being raided by Reddit? Why won't liberals and SJWs allow anyone to critique this film?
>>63977057
He's not paying respects.
He's cynically coasting by on nostalgia and fan service.
7/10
It was a fun flick, the protagonists were likable. Biggest complaints would be Rey's hyper competence and the times she has a "don't need no man" attitude. Also too much poetry with the Death Star III exploding. Final complaint would be Phasma doing literally nothing and getting beat like a dumb traitorous bitch.
>>63973273
>row of ceiling lights being reflected off phasma's helmet
>they're outside
Kek.
>>63977203
rolling
>>63973273
I would give 6/10. It's not bad, but it's not good either. It's enjoyable and has a little something for everyone. Toys for the kids (BB-8), Nostalgia for Old fans, action for teens, etc.
Where it goes wrong is that there's no tension in the film and you never get the sense that the characters are ever really in danger. There's also very little backstory or build up to the characters. The character arc is more like a straight line.
It could have been better but I don't know how JJ could've been able to satisfy all the expectations for this new film while trying to tie the OT to the new trilogy and set up the next film.
>>63977203
rull
>>63977262
They are fragile and insecure in their own opinion of the movie being great.
They need everyone to validate their opinions.
>>63973273
610.000.000 / 10
>>63977203
we wuz siths
>>63973273
A solid 5/10 tbqh family
5
>>63973273
The most 7.5/10 movie I've ever seen.
5/10 LOOK AT ME I'M INTERESTING FUCK SW IMIRITE
>>63973957
Literally my opinion as well, minus Ford's performance. Thought he was bad.
Someone collect the data and tell me the average please, I'm a lazy, depressed fuck.
Let's do it this way. It more accurate to rate it and be obviously subjective.
Expected: 6
Got: 7
I r8 8/8
>>63973273
8/10 it was enjoyable but not perfect
>>63973399
You fucks were poking at the prequels at first becuase "It felt nothing like Star Wars"
How is anything in the movie fanservice? Did we ask forHan to die or for Ren to be whiny?
It's JJ Abrams directing, so i'm gonna give yout his one.
The pacing is the same as any Star Wars movi cutting from good guys to bad guys ever since ANH.
If Rey is Mary Sue, then Luke is Gary Stu. Luke could use the force before being trained, Rey can use it too. People speculate on how she may be Luke's daughter and Luke was Anakin's son so they would come from a force sensitive bloodline. Case closed.
It's JJ Abrams
7 for the movie itself, 6 because of the endless references and "callbacks" to the OT.
>>63974360
>They are poorly written and their characters are wooden. The cinematography is uninspired and there is an over-saturation of CGI. The fight scenes have no pathos and exist to fill the screen with lights and bullshit.
I thought you were talking about TFA. That's how shit your opinion is.
>>63977729
How so?
>>63977918
>If Rey is Mary Sue, then Luke is Gary Stu
Please kill yourself just for using this expression
bland as fuck, literally the same story as the 70s movie except with muh diversity and throwbacks.
>>63973273
TR8R/10
>>63977918
You can't honestly say that Luke and Rey's affinity for the force is comparable at all. The first time Luke uses the force he deflects blaster bolts from a remote WITH Obi-Wan's help. The first thing Rey does is fucking crawl into the mind of an at least somewhat trained Sith, and then immediately after she force persuades a stormtrooper, something that Luke couldn't do even after several years of experience.
7/10, better overall than VI
>>63974127
I = 2/10 because good music and entertaining but retarded fights
II = 1/10 good music, that's fucking it
III = 5/10 good music, like one good scene, dumb entertaining parts, and amazing memes
IV = 9/10 few editing mistakes leaked through and some choppy acting
V = 10/10 literally perfect in every conceivable way
VI = 6/10 Ewoks and pointless Jabba scenes almost ruined the movie, Sheev scenes were GOAT
>>63977964
VII = 7.5/10 not a disappointment, great comedy, good characters (minus Mary Sue Rey), mirrored A New Hope little too much
>>63973273
7
>>63974803
this, i thought doing ep4 again was safe and familiar so long as eps8 and 9 do something way different
phasma, firstorder/republic/resistance love triangle, and rey development were my only real gripes and those can be wrapped up in 8&9 pretty well if done right
7.2
8/10
4/10
>Terrible casting choices
>Plot lacks a theme, lacks a morale, and lacks a fucking motive shit just happens the movie
>Non stop action with 0 down time gives you no time to take in what just happened which is for the best as when you question things abut this movie you will never stop and just become angry
>Old established characters... break character
>Main Villain has autism attacks because not enough is happening
>Attempts to be A New Hope while completely missing what made A New Hope a timeless classic
>Trying to modernize a TIMELESS CLASSIC
actually fuck it 3/10 see me after class
>>63977203
rolling
>>63976345
Completely agree with this post except for Kylo Ren.
He was basically the new version of prequel Anakin, though tuned down slightly. The only good scenes he had were at the beginning on Jakku and when he talks to Han at the end.
It attempted to subvert the dark side and show it to have some humanity, as in the prequels, but it really didn't work. He was honestly a whining child. Seeing him take off the mask was the point the film nosed dived for me.
>>63975485
If this movie brought more memes it would have gotten shit for that as well. It was perfectly subdued memery. Anything less would be soulless and anything more would be campy
>>63977203
ROLL
>>63977918
>How is anything in the movie fanservice?
- "Hey! Do you remember this character?" x6 (Han, Leia, C3PO, R2D2, Vader's helmet, and obviously Luke).
- "Hey, do you remember this scene?" x infinity. The shit with the holograms in the falcon, the entire scene where they shoot the death star, I mean planet, I mean whatever the fuck they called it.
- "hey, do you remember this?" -parallel x tons - Rey is an easy parallel to Luke in tons of ways, and so is Jakku and Luke's home, and so on and so forth.
There's tons of fanservice, and that's not even going into the SJW pandering of Rey being a total flawless Mary Sue so that the feminazis don't get mad.
>>63977203
bring it
8
Liked the characters, really liked Hux and Ren, didn't like Starkiller base
>>63973273
2015 / 10
>>63974661
It's the opposite. You had to be a total hardcore Star Wars turbo-nerd to really like that movie. For a normal person it's just an ok-ish action flick. Like Marvel movies for example.
>>63977831
Expected: 6
Got: 4
>>63978436
Kylo was a comic relief character, and an excellent one. Seriously how did more people not laugh out loud when he took off the mask the second an attractive woman asked him to? Or how he basically asked Rey on a date at the end of their climactic fight? He's an insecure fuccboi pretending to be darth vader and Driver sells it so well.
>>63978613
kek
>>63977918
People wanted the movie to have a similar standard to ANH and ESB. They didn't want a copy and paste.
>>63978644
it's more like you have to be a casual normie pretending to be a turbo-nerd to like the film. JJ's blatant misunderstanding of the force would turn anyone who knew shit off of the film.
>>63974162
Maybe stay out of the Prequel dick sucking thread then pham. Half of the is trolling, most are giving it a 4/10 or 5/10 or 6/10 because it was just average if not a bit underwhelming.
5/10
>>63973273
rating movies obvectively might be possibel to an extent, but makes no sense since you watch them as individual with your own taste and expectations. for me as star wars fan, it's a 9/10 because I loved everything about it apart from being not daring enough regarding the plot, but objectively its probably somehwere between a 6 and a 7
>>63977203
rollan
>>63973273
7/10
>>63973273
6 slightly above average with a shit ton of flaws. Enjoyable film that could be so much better.
>>63974030
what are you droning about, you dolt?
7/10
Liked the new evil force, but was Adam Driver supposed to be THAT cringey? I just couldn't take him seriously, hope they flesh him out in the next part and not add more to the pile of secrets. Interested in Snoke's origins though. The 'searching' for Luke was an interesting concept, but then mos of the map was in the empire's possesion? And then R2-D2 got it in ANH? And conveniently awakened and delivered it? I fear they won't be able to explain some of the plot holes, if they ever bother to fill them. The major flaw was the 'Death Star 3' for me, I mean it was interesting for a location, but I couldn't believe they're seriously rehashing the final battle from ANH. I hope that Phasma isn't done yet, she was hyped to be someone important and special only to have like 3 lines in the whole movie? The beginning of the movie with the village attack was very nice to me, and the ending was ok.
>>63978685
But despite that him and the First Order were a complete joke. Admittedly that scene when the stormtroopers just turn around after he spazzes out was hilarious, but the Order just don't seem like a serious threat.
So yes they have the giant Lazer Death Planet Star and they kill the republic. But even that got turned into a joke. Just don't really feel like the film took itself seriously at all, that it treated it's source material too playfully and self depricating.
Maybe i'm just too jaded, Don't know.
>>63973273
9/10.
capeshit in space with giant glowsticks
>>63979132
My thoughts exactly, I mean, we should we care for the Republic and the planet at all, it seemed to me that everyone has given up on fighting that which was already beaten 30 years ago. No help from the Republic, the good guys are resisting to that which they themselves allowed to grow. I don't know, everything feels as if the empire never ended, spies everywhere and big lazors included.
>>63973273
2/10
Han shoot to many people who clearly didnt shoot at him or didn't shoot first. It was not fitting heroic character.
>>63973273
9/10
Only real problem I have is ending the movie with ANOTHER "gotta blow up the Death Star" plot.
>>63979445
So if that's a 9/10? What do you rate Empire or A New Hope?
7.5/10 - Was thoroughly entertained upon first viewing.
The unclear worldbuilding and the shit protag is its biggest problem. But I loved most of the new characters and am intrigued to what they'll do next.
>GOAT TIER
BB-8 -> Easily the best new character. Faster, livelier and cuter than Artoo.
>GREAT TIER
Finn -> Fresh. Feels like an original character, rather than retreading an old archetype. Wonder where they'll take him.
Kylo -> Great villain. Intimidating, immature, unpredictable. Looking forward to his story and was rooting for him the final fight.
Poe -> Had great dialogue. So sparsely used, you want to see more of him. Worked just as it was intended.
Staff-Trooper -> Loved the out-of-nowhere competency. The Boba Fett of this movie.
>GOOD TIER
Young Hitler -> It's great to have a Nazi-suit that knows his shit. Great opposite to Kylo. Hopefully not ded.
Chewie -> Actually did shit. BTFOed Kylo. Should've interacted more with the other characters.
Han -> Satisfying performance true to his character. His death was too obvious and needed more buildup.
Luke -> Revealed too late, long after all the tension was gone. Hyped to see him in VIII, tho.
>MEH TIER
Snoke -> CGI looked fake as fuck. Desperately needs to be fleshed out.
Maz -> CGI looked fake as fuck. Waaay too shallow for her pivotal role as the keeper of the Lightsaber. Granny vibes.
Threepio -> Thankfully sidelined. His humor doesn't work anymore.
>BAD TIER
Leia -> Lost her fire. Granny vibes.
Artoo -> Utterly nonsensical role. Has no use anymore, now that BB exists.
Phasma -> Into the trash compactor it goes.
>SHIT TIER
MaRey Sue -> She's beautiful. She can do everything. She is loved by everyone. Prophecy is calling her. Not a single fuck is given on my side.
>>63978940
Yours is a good post. This isn't a 9/10 movie but I can understand why some are rating it that.
I don't think Kylo is a good villain but I think he's a good character.
We'll probably see Rey swap roles with him as the antagonist.
>>63977203
rawling
>>63973273
9.5
just got back from cinema
4/10 AT BEST
prequels are literally fucking better
I didnt even like the prequels
>>63980000
Quads confirm. 9.5/10. It's literally the greatest movie of all time. Wow.
>>63974353
>characters die in various films
>it's a copy guise
>>63973273
8/10
It was a good movie overall and really felt like it was a sequel to the original trilogy, but it was lazy from a story standpoint since it was just ANH 2.0. Rey was too much of a mary sue who shouldn't have been able to beat her whiny cousin with absolutely no prior experience. Finn was better than I thought he would be, he was solid comic relief and did a good job of not actually being a hero. My biggest complaint is that not-the-emperor looked WAY too CGI, especially compared to the otherwise good special effects. The obvious nazi overtones were pretty hamfisted too but they were bad in the original trilogy too so whatever.
>>63973273
6.5/10 if I'm being generous.
It was pretty mediocre.
>>63977203
Rolling
>>63980000
>9.5
>quads
>absolute truth
>WITNESSED
6.5
>>63977203
Rolling for Rape
>>63979820
>Rey becomes Bastilla
>Kylo Ren becomes light side Revan
Would be a solid plot twist
>>63974647
O I AM LAFFIN
>>63973273
6 out of 10
Felt more like a subpar remake of Episode 4 with elements of ESB than a sequel
Rey is a shit character and ruins every scenes shes in
Finn is a clown with shit character motivations
Poe getting seemingly killed off and just coming back into the plot for no reason was jarring
Kylo Ren was a pretty good Vader clone up until the point he took off his mask
Han and Chewie just showing up inside the MF felt like pandering
The MF just being there in a fucking desert scrapyard felt like super pandering to OTfags
Phasma literally having like five lines of dialogue and then getting offscreen killed is just baffling, like what was even the point of this character even being in the movie?
Other than that the spaceship battles, Han and Leia's reunion, and the few points in the plot where it was doing its own thing unlike not R2-D2, not Tatooine, and not Yoda where the times the movie was actually enjoyable.
>>63973273
7/10. Enjoyable enough, breddy gud production value, but too much rehashing of the plot elements of the old films, MaRey Sue, meh score
>>63977203
Good lord, why the fuck am I rolling?
>>63981139
>Poe getting seemingly killed off and just coming back into the plot for no reason was jarring
This was really weird. Almost to the point that it didn't seem intentional.
Isaac said recently that Poe was supposed to be killed off, and with the way his character fits in the structure of the plot, it's easy to see that that was the initial intentions.
>>63974044
I fucking hate this gremlin
>>63973273
im feeling a strong 6 to a light 7
2/10 true detective exorcised my eyes
