Sexist Shitlords:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igf96qnjHTE
>>63929915
why do people pretend to like star wars?
>>63929976
because its popular and "cool" at the same time
People have always dressed like wookies I don't get it
>>63929915
wasnt the audience like 70 or 80 percent male?
>>63929915
>look it's 2015
nope, shut it off right there
>tumblr glasses
Every time
>>63929915
Why do people pretend to like star wars?
I would love to ask her what locking s-foils means.
>>63930119
>tumblr glasses
>tumblr lipstick color
>tumblr body fat %
>>63929995
when did it start becoming cool? when people who watched it as kids grew up?
>>63930142
I should shoop her holding my schlong
>>63929915
I'm glad a female character is leading this new star wars trilogy. And I think this is now finally being done justice.
But this video is trying its best to diminish that. Why not celebrate Rey instead of talking about how much you like Han Solo. When she said Leia wasn't her favorite character, do you think I was surprised? Of course it's Solo. I personally know of no female star wars fan who doesn't like Solo. Solo is pretty much the embodiment of the classic white male hero. Oops.
Why are is she so angry. Please let's just enjoy star wars.
>>63929915
Fat chicks like Star Wars?! WOW! What a surprise!
>>63929915
>glasses
>>63930186
when nerd culture became cool, which started happening like 7-8 years ago and really blew up in the last 5 years
im really wondering how long this'll last, it feels like it's at its peak already
>>63929915
>Shilling this bullshit
>>63929915
But the most important question is
Who cares ?
I MEAN
>>63929915
>those girls ever shopping at Forever21
>>63930274
I hope it won't last too long. I'm getting tired of tryhards showing up at conventions , shitting up the place before they realize they have nothing to do here and let the organization believe they have a larger audience they actually do.
Weebs were already a pain to deal with but it's getting pretty shitty now.
Can't wait for the day sci-fi finally becames outfashioned again.
IT IS THE CURRENT YEAR
>grown ups acting, dressing and sounding like teenagers
ok
>>63929915
I hate this kind of people. You know, ones that suddenly started to love star wars because there is this huuuge ep VII hype even though they can't even name the fuckin OT/NT titles.
>>63929915
>That like to dislike ratio
Thank god I'm not a nerd so I don't get triggered so hard at all those idiots pretending to be nerds because it's the cool thing now.
>>63930498
Are you triggered by our being triggered?
I'd ewok her chewies. If you know what I mean lads.
>>63929915
>IT'S 2015
is this ironic or is this shit for real? i thought tumblr feminists was a meme, she looks, move and speak excatly like a feminist stereotype what the fuck
>>63930561
Tits on a fat chick is like abs on a skinny guy - it doesn't count.
>>63930594
These people have zero self awareness
>>63929915
Nice rack
why are people these days such attention whores,why do you have to wear fucking t-shirt of a movie god damnit,now i just watched IV-VI
should i procced /tv/? i didnt like VI so much and i am not excited to watch 3 movies that everybody says it sucks
>>63930774
Watch them so you can take part in the meme threads.
>>63929915
>IT'S 2015
I thought that was just a /tv/ joke...
>>63930774
Treat them like comedies and don't take them that seriously.
>>63930652
150Lbs 6'1 no abs. Try again.
>>63930652
Skinny/ottermode is a woman's ideal bf body type. .
>>63930818
Our stereotypical jokes are their lives.
>>63930872
According to who? Some guys on /fit/ who need to eat more and train harder?
>>63930872
neverimprove.jpg
>>63930847
You can get abs in a month if you actually do crunches, Auschwitz. Point it it's not gonna be impressive.
>>63930847
Lose more weight.
>>63929976
Because they DO love star wars. Star Wars is shallow, it's very accesible, basic entry level shit
Why does they look like pigs?
>>63931098
What should we be watching instead?
>>63931165
Babylon 5 and Star Trek.
Sci-fi has always been better written than filmed anyway.
>>63931165
I don't know, what do you like? Sci-fi genre doesn't have too much space for creative, deep stuff.
>>63930323
That was my favorite part. Fat girls shopping at forever 21 so they can find shirts to fit their boobs? Uh hahahahah yeah right.
>>63931194
I'm talking about movies.
pls start another Laina thread
>Literally the first 2 seconds
>>63931314
Me too.Except for the Babylon 5 movies, these are god awful
>>63929915
>my boyfriend's more of a Batman fan
>I couldn't really get into Arkham Asylum (the vidya, not the comic)
>Mark Hamill is da best joker though XD
Fucking triggered.
>>63931205
I'm humbly asking for your opinion. You must know best.
>sjw shill video
>actually says "it's 2015"
>>63930174
She's missing the dyed hair, also known as the female fedora.
>>63929915
>IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR
>>63931356
Wow she is really stretching that five seconds of fame, huh?
>>63929915
"Did you get that Star Wars shirt at Forever 21?"
"So what if I did?"
"Did your boyfriend get you into Star Wars?"
"Even if he did, it doesn't make me any less of a Star Wars fan"
wew
>>63929915
Star Wars has been around since 1977. By their logic wouldn't there have been female Star Wars fans for four decades?
>tfw you're her beta boyfriend who cant tell her how fake their sass and nerdy shit is because there are a million things i "should never say"
>>63931431
kek'd
>>63931453
shut up idiot she's cute
>>63930818
It's true. All of it.
The memes, the magic. They're real.
>>63930915
>>63930955
Showed pic related to GF and got her to ask some of her friends as well. General consensus was skinny/ottermode.
>>63931653
>you will never reach T-rex mode
I don't think the human body was made to cope with these feels
>>63931629
She looks like she's aged horribly.
>>63931559
>I am being asked questions that have a correct answer, this offends me >:^(
>>63931653
Your anecdotes are empirical evidence.
>>63931653
your gf and her friends are
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>>63931453
Don't look up what they did to Grumpy Cat.
>>63929915
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>>63931653
they'd also say they want a sweet nice guy who's shy and nerdy
>>63931653
what happened to bearmode's palm?
>>63931787
They probably smell just as bad as tauntauns as well.
>>63931796
Lifting heavy shit.
>>63931768
Better milk that cow before it dies, cats don't live that long after all.
>>63931821
and i thought you smelled bad... on the outside
>>63931796
probably some crossfit competition nonsense he's paid to participate in when he's not doing crossfit to get that bod
Opinion discarded.
>>63931374
I never claimed I know the best.
nothing makes you a nerd more than the most anticipated and money making movies of all time, m i right
>>63932174
>mocks star wars as nerd manchild thing
>wants in for x reasons and colonize any space
>problematic glasses
>1950s vintage oppression lipstick
>imsuchanurd shirt
3 strikes
>>63932280
this isnt knocking star wars, or even man children, but the cult of culture. slap a star wars logo on a pile of shit, sell it at hot topic, and watch the people who have never seen the films buy it to appear ''nerdy'' or ''hip''.
>It's 2015
Exactly. Make up is more widely available than ever. As are mirrors in general. And there's about a billion workout regimes you can read for free on the internet. Even Planet Fitness is $10 a month for fuck's sake.
>>63932355
God just imagine burying your face in those big udders tho
>>63932407
You really need to get laid.
And get some fucking standards, holy shit.
>>63932357
i know, i was mocking exactly that hip nerdy shit that can at any moment regress back to "lol nerds" at any time for 2 seconds when it's convenient
im sick of star wars but seeing this stuff while i felt ashamed of it as a 10-12yo is a bit annoying
>>63932407
>Implying a SJW will allow your cis white male face anywhere near her body, you sexist shitlord
>>63932355
>>63929915
Why do Tumblrinas go in for that vaguely 1950s look?
It makes sense for fedora guys, because the 50s were superficially a time of manliness and class. But wasn't the 50s also a time of extreme oppression for women?
>>63932584
>But wasn't the 50s also a time of extreme oppression for women?
Suburban American, of coursh, but not all went down the house wife route. Don't buy into the lies and modern propaganda that's currently spreading in TV.
>>63932584
I've always wondered that myself tbqh family, it's like their uniform is a half-assed rockabilly costume or something.
>>63932512
>be a kid/teenager
>be laughted at for liking sci-fi stuff and comic books
>now it's mainstream and cool and all the popular kids from my youth are such nerds
>>63932468
the things i want to do to fat girls are not the kind of things i want to do to the mother of my children. just because i want to go gonzo on a slam pig doesn't mean i don't have standards.
IT'S TWENTY-FIFTEEN
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>>63932734
yeah but it still has a "virgin manchild" stigma to it in men that can be pulled at any time if you're talking about it in front of women or whatever (but somehow we cant be surprised if some rare girl likes or "likes" that shit)
it's really annoying
>>63932582
the sex-positive tumlbrina crowd is actually pretty easy to get with, you just have to make them think it was their idea to fuck. Just laugh at their shitty jokes and talk with them about Stevven Universe or Adventure Time while some alcohol is involved and they'll make the first move.
>>63929915
>it's [current year]
>and the new star wars hero is a mary sue
I don't remember any man...ANY man...bitching and moaning about Ripley from Alien or Aliens.
Hmmm...could it possibly be because she was a solid character who struggled to prevail and existed at a time when special snowflake crybully shitlords weren't constantly screaming "HURR DURR STRONG WOMYNZ"???
>when does this fucking sjw ride end
>>63929915
The only redeeming part of this video is the comment section.
Maybe this SJW fad is ending.
>>63929915
>it's 2015
http://www.bustle.com/articles/131205-21-plus-size-star-wars-fashion-items-because-fatshionistas-love-r2d2-too-photos
>all tihs fatshit sjwshit
can't breath
>>63932856
yeah only girls can get away with wearing those dumb ugly tshirts and still get thirsty white knights
a guy can go from don draper one day to 2 days later not shave and wear that shirt and become a neckbeard
>>63929915
>36-DD tauntauns
>>63933128
if so, he wasnt a don draper in the first place. no real man gets wrapped up like that
>>63933066
>fatshionistas
Jesus
>>63932512
>regress back to "lol nerds" at any time for 2 seconds when it's convenient
That's the bit that bothers me. I don't care that they're just pretending. But god forbid anyone ACTUALLY enjoy this shit unironically.
>>63933350
>enjoying things unironically
>>63933402
>teeth
gross
>>63932584
I'd like to believe that they do it because of a false nostalgia for the 40s war effort that showed that women could infact work like men did and was a major stem in the history of feminism.
But few of them probably know about it. They probably just want to look whacky but classy.
>>63933402
Good lord I always thought British teeth were a meme. How is it possible to have such bad teeth in CURRENT YEAR?
>>63933441
>britshaming
its 2015, i mean COME ON!
>>63933467
>whacky but classy
while having tattoos on their tits, colored hair and a septum ring
when did women become orcs?
>>63930323
I really like the flannel shirts they sell at the men's section there.
>>63929915
How the fuck did you not pick up that this is a parody.
>>63933402
How does he even chew?
>>63933467
I'm just glad pixie cuts are out. Dye your hair red, wear fake glasses, be 300 pounds, as long as you don't have that god-awful bullshit short haircut I'm fine with it.
>>63933557
ive got bad news for you anon
>>63933528
That's the whacky part.
You take something old-fashioned but somewhat stylish, and "modernize" it by adding current trends, colours, etc.
It could technically work if the people doing it had taste.
or maybe they are purposefuly going to a style dating from an era when women and minorities had a shit statut in society and pervert it by adding new, dissonant and breaking elements.
I don't know. I give up.
>>63933646
at this point i just assume it's a double down like getting fatter and becoming body-positive "and fuck whoever doesnt like me" sourgrapes
like nu males becoming male feminists
>>63929915
>didn't play arkham asylum
>still comments on its content
>>63933128
fakenerdgirl privilege t b q h f a m
>>63933402
>>63929915
>tfw femanon
>was always into nerdy shit long before it was cool, was a huge Star Wars fan, video game fan and fantasy fan throughout my childhood in the 90's and early 2000's - well before the nerd fad hit
>dad was the one who got me into Star Wars when I was 4-5, not a BF or facebook friendos
>was bullied for dressing up as Star Wars characters like Luke or Leia for Halloween instead of a typical witch in my tween years
>was mocked for being a weird nerd girl in my childhood in general
>don't wear hipster glasses, never died hair never have gone full nerd in public and still don't because years of nerd conditioning and mocking from my past has been ingrained in my brain
>these fucking feminist posers come and ruin the image of female nerds who did enjoy this shit before it became trendy
>now if I were to tell some regular nerd joe that I was a big fan, they'd assume I'm some trendy feminist bitch and not a true fan or "nerd" or whatever the fuck they want to say to improve their egos...D-do I pass the Bechdel test, /tv/?
>>63932880
Then they'll accuse you of rape or pre-meditative rape or some shit
The only thing sex-positive you'll experience is a 12 inch black dingus rammed up your tight ass
>>63933350
>LOL IM SUCH A NERD
guy mentions he knows the name of Han's ship
>OMG EEEWWWW
guy says he's surprised she even knows star wars
>OMG how dare you
>>63933887
WARM
>>63933859
Just kill yourself already. Star war is trash and women can never be a nerd.
>>63933859
>tfw femanon
stopped reading right there
>>63934056
>>63934075
T-thanks for proving my point /tv/.
We long-time fem nerds are truly a lonely group of people.
Also
>Star Wars is trash.
This whole board and everything about 4chan is pure trash. But that doesn't stop either one of us from visiting it.
>>63934050
UNO
>>63929915
You assume she's really a fan and not just some dumb hipster whore looking for attention.
>>63934213
> just some dumb hipster whore looking for attention.
That's tumblr's motto, anon
>>63934164
Fuck off no one gives a shit about your little female problems, you're probably from /co/ too aren't you?
>>63929915
>>63930174
>tumblr body fat %
OH MY SIDES!!!!
>>63930162
https://www.heruniverse.com/brands/star-wars.html
have fun
>>63934346
>woman literally sympathizing with you people instead of the majority
>chastise her for being a woman anyway
You're just proving the SJWs point tbqh familia
>>63934435
>Starting on January 1st, we will experience one full year of IT'S 2016! CMON!
The ride never ends
>>63930561
>I thought they smelled bad on the outside
>>63929915
jesus christ that lisp is annoying
2nd girl has crazy eyes
>>63929915
is this satire?
>>63934075
>>63934164
don't get cunty
>>63934506
>>63931372
jack nicholson is the best joker
>>63930463
Good lord.
Not even /pol/ but how the fuck did americans lose control of their women? Christ
>>63929976
it's basically a live action samurai jack
>>63933859
>...D-do I pass the Bechdel test, /tv/?
all the good Star Wars movies don't
>>63929915
>It's 2015
Can this meme stop?
>>63929915
the food is strong with her
>>63934665
The Commies really fucked up Gen X'ers and are spreading their cancer to millennials.
>>63934729
Fine.It's 2016.
>>63931877
>crossfit
bruh that's konstantin konstantinovs
I can't wait for sci-fi and video games and etc to go back to being uncool and only for creepy losers
normies have ruined or atleast have massively shit up most of my hobbies
>>63933066
I applaud Ashley Eckstein fully embracing Star Wars and the insane fringe fandom, but jesus christ
>>63934665
blue jeans and rock music
>>63934843
Who's this ham planet?
>go to see tfa with some friends
>friend's gf goes too
>talks about how much she loves star wars the whole time and how she's been so excited about this one
>movie ends
>we're all talking about it in the parking lot
>kylo ren was awesome until he took off his helmet. i didn't know he'd look like THAT
>how? did you not see any of the press photos?
>no
>>63933859
Dont worry nerds are getting sick of feminism and the push back will be glorious
>>63933859
post tits or gtfo
>>63934710
Well this one does, because of Femoda.TFA confirmed disappointment?
>>63933859
>tfw femanon
baka fan it's 2015 ffs
>>63934890
desu senpai I really like Star Wars and I actively avoided all press releases and fan speculation so it wouldn't ruin anything.
I had no idea who played Kylo Ren til I shitposted on 4chan that night and realized he was in Inside Llewyn Davis
My sisters love star wars and read more of the shitty EU novels than I did and they're not even fat. I've known lots of girls who loved SW and plenty who didn't, if you grew up watching the movies then you probably loved them regardless of gender.
>>63934995
confirmed.
>>63934917
>nerd pushback
>glorious
Please elaborate on how you think this is gonna happen
>>63929915
>all those dislikes
Logged in just to leave mine.
>>63935059
>tfw your character is literal trash
>>63934890
Don't you know that a lot of people deliberately dodge info about the movie to preserve the purity of the first watching?
>>63934164
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OUTER
>>63935098
>>63935161
Top kek
>>63929915
Rebuttal by a female Star Wars fan
(most of you will discount her because she doesn't confirm your bias)
https://youtu.be/AUiBl1kOILM
>>63935059
>buys all this shit
>phasma sucks Dialga cock on a garbage storage stuff
>>63935117
what fucking purity, i already knew the plot, we already knew what kylo ren and luke looked like, we already knew han got killed by kylo ren who was his son
the only thing i didnt know about was what snoke looked like but that was top secret until the end
i still fucking enjoyed it knowing the plot
Its more that most people who need to publicly title themselves as something...generally aren't something.
That or they aren't as deep into it that the title, albeit, used to mean.
Both "gamer", "nerd" and/or "geek" all apply to this. Most people who applied to those titles never commonly had to justify to others that they were those things.
Yeah you might have had toys, wore clothes of it, or played a gameboy in public but you never went HEY IM PLAYING POKEMON xDDDD ARENT I KEWL?
People get defensive over things they are passionate about and especially when they feel that community is changing from what they knew. So, yes, you will be poked/tested if you proclaim a love for something that you maybe love skin-deep at best
>>63935218
>2015
>being a non-fat womeme
>>63931796
powder provided too much traction and ripped skin.
Why's she so based bros?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bi-QoAtr9c
>>63935218
>e-fedora
kek'd
>>63935218
We get it, you vape
>>63933859
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>>63929915
If the implication is that only fat ugly chuds like Star Wars these hambeasts look like Star Wars fans
>>63935218
>red artificial hair
Nope.png
>>63929915
At least she doesn't have colored hair.
>>63931165
whatever you want
I like it when sjws gets blown the fuck out.
>>63935658
well to be fair you know thats mostly people who just think its retarded and its being circlejerked around those groups.
Not that it doesn't deserve it, but it should hardly come to a shock
>>63935218
She has a good argument, but I'm still wary of her because of her dyed hair.
Usually dyed hair is a bad sign among nerdy women.
>>63935471
>Problem Phrases
>Patriarchy comes up twice
Fitting, I like.
>>63935771
come on man she just feels like dying her hair, she seems pretty down to earth in that video, no make up, wearing normal clothes, no weird lighting etc
>>63930847
Nigger my 5'1 grandmother (she used to be 5'7) who is DYING weighs almost that much, a healthy weight for a guy who is 6'1 is around 200 not 150 (I know this because overweight and losing it to get to 200)
>>63930214
>>>/Jezebel/
>>63929915
No one thinks I'm a huge Star Wars, video game, and toy nerd either because I just dress like a normal adult. Someone not recognizing your power level isn't some form of oppression.
>it's the current year
thick
>>63935924
Are you her? Why are you offended? Fuck off, dyed hair of unnatural colors is a blatant call for attention, what makes her no different than the girls she's criticizing.
>>63929915
>Star Wars Fan
>>63936155
>dyed hair of unnatural colors is a blatant call for attention
m8 I agree with you but it's not an automatic thing, I know a few girls with dyed hair that are perfectly nice people
>>63929915
LOL look at this fat nerd
hahahaha go back to your basement be a tch no one gives a shit about your weird likings
weirdo.
>>63929976
>Le quirky nerd
When will this meme die. Girls used to tell their boyfriends to beat the Le nerd up and then have sex on top of his unconscious body.
Just get it over with already
>>63935658
>>63935751
yeah, this video only had a few hundred views before /pol/ found it
man who gives a fuck
>>63929976
I hate this whole geek is sheek thing.
>its a fat bitch cares if people think shes a real nerd or not episode
>>63930142
I would pay real money to see her shove that up her ass.
>>63935771
It never used to be a problem anon.
Until tumblr sluts came along.
>>63936413
>tfw lack of sleep
>can't stop laughing at this post
>>63934164C-can I be your bf?
>>63929915
>It's 2015, the new Star Wars hero is a BADASS lady
I couldn't watch anymore, God help whoever had relations with those "women"
>>63930186
>>63933859
>>now if I were to tell some regular nerd joe that I was a big fan, they'd assume I'm some trendy feminist bitch and not a true fan or "nerd" or whatever the fuck they want to say to improve their egos
Unless you're shallow about it no it won't, in fact why would you assume that in the first place and what's regular nerd joe?
Are you autisitic or something can't you just talk about something without thinking about all the social implications behind it?
>>63935218
Had to power trought the vape but yeah good points.
Nobody gave a shit whether bitches liked Star Wrars or not until some attention whoring fat sluts who don't actually like Star Wrars started pretending to like Star Wrars for attention and then complained because no one believed they didn't like Star Wrars, because it's pretty obvious when you're just pretending to like Star Wrars for attention.
>>63937187
>Star Wrars
>Wrars
5 times, too!
>>63937496
Oh fuck dude, I'm wheezing from laughter.
Why did you have to point it out?
>>63931764
That is probably a good thing.
>>63934164
>This whole board and everything about 4chan is pure trash.
You take that back :(
>>63934843
Why is she dressed as a fridge?
>>63938049
Why have they dressed a fridge?
>>63936413
I care deeply what a pair of fat tits thinks about movies.
>>63933066
FATSHIONISTAS
YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>63931653
that's because ottermode has the best looking face you faggot
>>63933859
L-L-London
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ2IhpcMZ6A
>mfw
>>63931653
ottermode and ripped will always be god-tier body types for women. Men do the same thing when they prefer hourglass figures for women, that's just how it is.
Builtfat, skinnies, curlbros and chubbyfats can be cute too though, as long as the guy has a cute/good face.
>>63930652
I'm skinny as fuck and have no abs
>>63929915
EECHI OOWA SA SOLO BOWA KOSO NA AHAHAHA
>>63929915
>an epic space opera that chronicles existential crisis that cripples a young man when he finds out his father is the enemy he's been fighting all along
That sounds exactly like how someone who's never actually seen Star Wars, but knows Darth Vader is Luke's dad would describe the series.
>>63929915
>>63930142
when did anita gain all this weight?
>>63933859
>was bullied for dressing up as Star Wars characters like Luke or Leia for Halloween instead of a typical witch in my tween years
This literally never happened though. Your entire post reeks of made up bullshit.
>we're just like you, don't treat us any different
>also let me tell you my bra size and point at my tits
Women.
>>63939828
what does that even mean?
who makes this shit up?
>>63941970
"Body Positive" sounds like a joke.
It's like when you're filling out an application, and for Sex, you give "yes".
This is like that, but if a dating service asked your body type.
>>63930274
> nerd culture
If you can't program fluently in Haskell you're just a faggot poser.
>>63930323
It's odd but I respect money grubbing whores like "The Hills" girls far more than I do the fake nerd girls.
>>63942338
>Haskell
>>63929915
i wanna hatefuck the fat one
>>63930142
>>63929915
that rotoscoping was legit impressive for a video like this
it was better than almost every star wars fan film I've ever seen
what's the one with the tauntauns' name I'm horny and mad
>>63929915
Why hipsters dress and act like Star Wars geeks? They should be worshipping 2001 A Space Odyssey and Solaris the russian version.
>>63930652
Underrated post
>>63944396
t. Fatty Fatty Boom Boom
>>63930652
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZrcckN0tn4
TITS ON A FAT CHICKDONT COUNT!
>>63944587
You did good Anon.
>>63930652
Visible abs are more about low bodyfat than actual strength. There's a reason why many weight lifters and rugby players don't have them.
>>63929915
I find it surprising a Hutt would be a fan of a film series where they're portrayed as frog addicted criminals
>>63929915
>first words are "it's 2015"
closed
>>63932584
because audrey hepburn, marilyn monroe, and dita von teese
Why is the year relevant to them? The way I see it, we're still stuck in 20th Century thinking.
>>63935218
V A P E I T U P
>>63932584
Women were told that 1950s women were oppressed, but really women were at their most feminine.
I think modern women feel lost and were sold on this idea that careers would make them feel fulfilled.
Which is stupid because even in the 50s, men started families while they had jobs. There was no reason to work if you weren't supporting a wife and kids.
>>63945271
Because come on, it's current year!