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So we have to wait another year and a half to find out who these assholes actually are?
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I bet Kylo was the only one who survived boot camp.
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>>63901704
the other Knights of Ren. Wow that was fucking tough one
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>>63901704
They are Disney's new toy series.
That's all you need to know.
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WHERE THE FUCK WERE THEY WHEN THEIR MASTER NEEDED HELP

WHERE
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This movie was a long commercial for the next movie
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>>63901886
dead
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>Only 521 more days until episode VIII
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>>63901704
Is that one guy in the back wielding a cricket bat?

They're Sith chavs?
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well unless you want to dig into the new EU but... we now how that ends
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>Ren and Rey represent fans today
>there's always those guys who love the dark side and are vader fanboys
>and those who don't know much but pick the jedi because it's familiar and good
>boyega is those faggots who never chose a side
>poe is the kid who liked the ships and robots more than the jedi vs sith thing
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>>63901704
Why does one of them have a skateboard?
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>It's getting cold, isn't it?
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>>63901704
Kylo Ren and the Edgelords
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Luke took on Kylo and others to train. Luke tried to keep the force balanced by dabbling in the dark side. Kylo turned full dark and converted others along with him. Luke hid Rey because that was his one chance at a pure jedi. Kylo led a coup against Luke. Luke killed everyone except Kylo because it's his nephew.
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Did Snoke say Kylo was the last of the Knights of Ren or Master?
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>>63902054
So he can shred the resistance
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>>63902406
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>>63902034
Poe reporting in.
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>>63901704
you have to wait for "Star War the search for more money" to come out.
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>>63902406
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It's better than 3 years
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>>63902034
Where was the representation for the Jizz fans in the audience?
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i assume it's ren's fellow jedi trainees who went full crawwling in my skiiin along with him
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>>63902034
I think I'm just Han in this equation

We had a good ride but it's time for me to go
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>>63901704
I don't remember this scene
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>>63903141
part of rey's lukesaber-induced vision/flashback, the shot of the knights is about three seconds long
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>>63902406

gnarly
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>>63903185

I like how they put that in the trailer suggesting we'll see them in the movie but then nothing.
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So, I guess the next title is Star Wars episode VIII : The Knight of the Ren?
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>yfw one of the Knights of Ren is Mace Windu's daughter
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Was there a post-credits teaser at the end of the movie?
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>>63903472
nigga she'd have to be atleast like what, 50 something?

OT takes place like 20 years after the prequels no? and then the sequels are another 30 years after the OT no?

>>63903475
from what I understand no, you'd of heard about it by now
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Luke was God and his academy and students were angels.

Ben was the best angel but was an edge-lord and took some of the surviving students with him after their rebellion

Rey is Jesus
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>>63903826
but jews don't into jesus no? how could JJ and disney allow this
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>>63901931
>sith chavs
>mfw
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Why do I get the feeling Rey was one of the bad guys?
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>>63903919
Not possible she was a child when she went to Jakku. More likely is she's a mind wiped survivor of Luke's Jedi Academy or his mind wiped daughter.
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>>63903428
Ren's Revenge
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>>63903826

That makes too much sense.
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>>63904023
You say it's not possible since she was a child when she went to Jakku, then say she was mind-wiped

If she was mind-wiped then it doesn't matter when she thinks she went to Jakku
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>>63901704
They were part of Kylo's shitty emo band but they broke up
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>>63904023

See that doesn't make much sense.

Shes' roughly the same age as Kylo and Kylo was in his late teens/early 20s when he raided the jedi academy.

Actually I checked the wiki and Kylo is supposed to be born right after Endor so he's 30?! Didn't seem that way at all. He looked like he was early 20s at best.
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>>63904131
>>63904214
I was assuming that Kylo was older than Rey but if they are the same age then yes it is possible that Rey was one of the bad guys. I think mind wiping is a given though
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>>63902034

Poe here
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really the biggest thing that bugged me in this was rey fucking MIND TRICKING a storm trooper despite NEVER HAVING USED THE FORCE BEFORE

like fuck me come on, Luke used the force like once in ANH to guide the missile in the death star, in ESB pre-yoda he was still struggling to barely just lift his lightsaber off the ground and shit like that, after yoda he was only a bit better, it took him until ROTJ to get to the level that rey started at in this movie

fucking shite man. people defending it saying "hurr natural ability she's probably a skywalker!!!" fuck off
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>>63904214
His actor is 32
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>>63901704
Fuck the
>Kylo Ren killed all students

I think what really happened is all of the students joined the dark side with Kylo, and became The Knights of Ren.

The dead bodies are those who refused to join Ren or maybe were TR8-TORS

Why is this?
>Obi Wan: Darth Vader betrayed and ´murdered´ your father.

SCREENCAP THIS.
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>>63904271

He'd recognize her and would mention it.

I think the most reasonable explanation is that Luke gathered the survivors and hid them in different parts of the galaxy so they can grow up on their own and find him.

There's probably going to be a few more of them showing up later.

Ren's Rekking Crew there is probably working somewhere in the First Order territory so he'll call them in, if for nothing else then to sell toys.
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>>63902034
Poe master race? Poe master race.
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>>63904364
>mfw it's true
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>>63904404
>SCREENCAP THIS
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>>63904404
Hey

Hey wait a second

One of those Knights is holding a fucking staff!
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I'm thinking that the reason we got Mary Sue Rey in Ep7 is because she will gradually fall to the dark side so she had to start out as pretty much perfect.

On the other hand it's kind of obvious that Kylo will turn to the light before the trilogy is over.
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>>63901822

This. They are basically Kylo's high-school buddies that rode the coat-tails into the First Order.
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>>63904496
P O T T E R Y
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>>63902054

>Stormtrooper with a giant paddle board.

Standing up to the darkside..

That's a paddling.
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>>63904404
Capped'
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>>63904493
Reply with something useful instead of a reaction image.
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>>63904023
>>63902110
where is all this mind wipe fanfiction level garbage from, no where does it say anything about mind wiping jesus
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>>63904336

it's turbo obvious she was trained by Luke as a child
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>>63901704
fuq that cleaver bro. I hope they will be there in sequel kicking some ass and aren't just disappointing fodders like phasma. I think i set my expectation too high though
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>>63904496
Uh oh
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>>63904496
So dense.

So I actually liked TFA, guys. I'd say it's between ANH and ROTJ in terms of quality. What's your take on it? I've only found shitposting on /tv/ about TFA since I saw it today.
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>>63904336
>Luke used the force like once in ANH to guide the missile in the death star
Jesus holy fuck no, it was just feeling when the right moment to fire was.
It was a reflex thing, like blocking the training droid blasts earlier.
Luke has trouble pulling a lightsaber a couple feet in Empire as you say, you think he's nudging torpedoes around at range 3 years earlier?

>it took him until ROTJ to get to the level that rey started at in this movie
Jedi mind trick is cool and we only really see full on jedi knights do it, but Rey isn't exactly choking out gamorrean guards effortlessly or murdering an entire sand barge full of jabba's thugs. She mind tricks an already indoctrinated and subservient stormtrooper who's entire conditioning is about not questioning orders.

Also be careful not to equate Vader and Kylo. Rey doesn't have to be better than Luke to beat Kylo just because Luke got rekt at Bespin. That's a huge disservice to Darth Vader.
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>>63902034
>not being a Sheev

I only follow this series to have fun toying with people who take it seriously
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>>63904410
>He'd recognize her and would mention it.
>I think the most reasonable explanation is that Luke gathered the survivors and hid them in different parts of the galaxy so they can grow up on their own and find him.

That's a really good explanation and would make sense for why Luke's been missing. He could have been travelling space secretly checking on his apprentices
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>>63903826
Did he shout Ben or Ren? Because Ben makes no fucking sense.

Also Kylo was sent off after Luke's academy betrayal. He couldn't be trained by him, so Kylo has no impact on the Academy.
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>>63904496
It's similar to iambic pentameter
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>>63904496
oh shit man. that staff looks familiar. whose to say that all staff dont look like that though
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>>63904673
Not him but I think Luke used the force in ANH because Ben comes to him and says literally "Turn off your targeting computer and use the fucking force" or something along those lines.
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>>63904733
Ben. Why doesn't that make sense? Han and Leia named their kid after Obi-Wan.
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>>63904496
it's fucking darth maul's lightsaber, just more longer and with shorter saber tips.
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>>63904410
>He'd recognize her and would mention it.

on wookiepedia it says Kylo is meant to be 30, Rey looks about 20 - early 20s

we see Rey being abandoned on Jakku in a quick flash when she looks about 5

which would make Kylo 15 when he kills the other pupils, a bit young but old enough, maybe more 16 or 17

however if you met a 5-7 year old girl 15-13 years ago, theres a good chance you wouldnt recognize her as an adult, and if she had her memories suppressed, he couldnt read her mind and realize who she was
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>>63904750
I wasn't disputing it was the force
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>>63904800
Neither of them fuckin' knew Obi-Wan. That's absolutely retarded.
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>>63904614
>has flashbacks of Kylo turning on Luke years ago
>was taken to Jakku and abandoned there years ago

hmm could the two be connected? hmmmmmmmmmmm what a mystery
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>>63904733

you have no comprehension of what happened in the movie
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>>63904877

Han is only involved in the story because Obi-Wan hired him, and Leia saw him give his life to save her
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begin charging the weapon
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>>63904896
I'm pretty sure you're plum fuckin' wrong, mate.
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>>63904733
>Also Kylo was sent off after Luke's academy betrayal.
>He couldn't be trained by him, so Kylo has no impact on the Academy.
What the fuck are you trying to say?
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>>63904877

did you ever even watch episode 4?
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>>63904947

Kylo's real name is Ben ya plonker
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>>63902034
Poe master race
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>>63904404
>I think what really happened is all of the students joined the dark side with Kylo, and became The Knights of Ren.

>actually believing there are jedi WORSE than kylo
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>>63904937
This. Also probably Luke told them stories about how great Ben Kenobi was. By naming their son after him they're honoring him and their best friend.
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>>63904996

>le everything was a dream meme
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>>63904623
>she was trained up to mind control levels by the age of 4

yea no JJ

>>63904673
nig that's exactly what i was saying with "used the force in ANH to guide the missle"

i don't mean he literally used the force to physically move the thing into the thing, come on m8

why do you feel the need to defend this stuff? it's obviously lazy and no matter the reason, rey starting off with advanced shit is lame and kills potential character development.

Luke going from a schmuck to the badass he is in ROTJ is probably my favorite shit in the OT, Rey starts off exceedingly competent at everything and that is nothing but lame and lazy

everyone defends this saying shit like "oh but stormtroopers are easy to mind control!" or "Rey was trained by luke when she was a fucking toddler!"

hell fanboys even refute the "How was Rey trained by Luke when she was a toddler" thing with "Well they mind wiped her into thinking she was left there as a toddler (for some reason?)"

I guess there is no reason to argue with you people but fuck man, blindly defending something because you like it isn't going to help it become better
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So what was the deal with this bounty hunter being cut down by Kylo int hat scene? How did he live like 60+ years since the clone wars?
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I'm real slow due to brain damage

Are the Knights of Ren a real thing or is this theorycrafting nonsense?
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>>63905060
It wasn't all a dream though.
Kylo Ren makes a sacrifice and restores order to everything by resetting time to a specific point while giving Anakin the memories of what happened.
It's a second chance.
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>>63901859
underrated post
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>>63901895
how. it feels like we know absolutely nothing about the next film except that rey and kylo are probably about to be trained more (which is only shown in the last few scenes). what else was advertised?
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>>63904971
no. and I shouldn't have to if this is a soft reboot of Star Wars. I shouldnt have to go back and watch anything
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>>63905098
snoke mentioned it for one line

he says something like this to kylo "you're the strongest of the knights of ren'
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>>63904336
This is more evidence that she was a Knight of Ren who lost her memories.

Rey = Revan
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>>63904131
We literally see her when she was left on Jakku and she's super young. They wouldn't lie to us in a flashback like that that's really cheap.
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>>63905251
I thought Rey was a child when the Knights of Ren attacked.
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>>63904410
>There's probably going to be a few more of them showing up later.
The main reason I would believe something like this is because they showed that stormtroopers have weapons that can withstand lightsabers. Feels like they're already setting up a situation where the fight isn't too one-sided if there are multiple Jedis.
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>>63905280
What if that was when she was being taken from Jakku?
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>>63905098
Snoke mentions the Knights of Ren in the movie. They haven't exactly explained what they are yet though.
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>>63905094
aliums. didn't han say the yellow bar lady was 1000 years old?
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Benecio del Toro is going to play second in commando the knights

screencap this now
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>>63905375
She's standing on sand with that alien guy yelling "come back!"

I think you can see the tent city too.
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>>63904673
>She mind tricks an already indoctrinated and subservient stormtrooper who's entire conditioning is about not questioning orders.
Not to mention she has to say it 3 times for it to work.
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>>63905403
but WHY was he at the temple?
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>>63903428
The Force Awakens
Knights of The First Order
Shroud of the Dark Side

screencap this :^)))
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>>63905093
>nig that's exactly what i was saying with "used the force in ANH to guide the missle"
>i don't mean he literally used the force to physically move the thing into the thing, come on m8
Sorry I don't speak whatever version of English you do. Guiding something means you're helping it along, it doesn't mean you pressed the fire button at the right time.

>why do you feel the need to defend this stuff?
Why do you feel the need to attack this stuff? I assume because you see it as a plothole or shitty writing. I defend it because I disagree. You're already trying to assert I have some stake in this movie that you don't. Don't be an asshole.

>Luke going from a schmuck to the badass he is in ROTJ is probably my favorite shit in the OT
mine too, black robe luke taking out gamorreans is badass

>oh but stormtroopers are easy to mind control!
Because that's canon in ANH and they reinforce the idea in TFA with the whole obedience brainwashing thing

I'm not making any claims about secret training because there isn't any evidence for that or if there was, future movies can't fix issues with past ones.

But you're so sure I'm a fanboy or one of "you people" in an attempt to discredit what I say because you disagree and you're so sure of your position that anyone else must be blinded by something. Get off your high ground.
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>>63905404
It was leaked that he's going to be a politician or something boring like that.
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>>63905487
So he's going to be the senator sheev character while Snoke is the emperor sheev character?
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>>63902034
Kenobi reporting in, Jedi and nothing but Jedi all day every day.
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>>63904496
Rey confirmed for joining the Knights of Ren to help Kylo take down Snoke.
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>>63905114
>>63904996
Wait I thought the image was meant to be a joke but it sounds like you're actually taking it seriously/defending it? It's an utterly shit idea and would make for one of the worst possible conclusions to the new trilogy.
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>>63905432
>>63905375
And a ship is flying away from her
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>>63901704
If they're weaker than BEN, the Resistance should have nothing to worry about.
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>>63905432
Yeah her parents sold her to Luke to become a Jedi and fucked off of Trash Planet.
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>>63904805
Rey's staff actually does have parts of Maul's saber
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>>63905590
Explain why.
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>>63905741
What if her parents dumped her somewhere so they could bring her sibling to the Jedi Academy? Maybe it was too expensive for all of them to go or something, and the parents figured they'd get plenty of money if the older sibling became a Jedi.
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>>63905093
>she was trained up to mind control levels by the age of 4

yoda was training 5 year olds how to use the force, its probably like real world meditation where its easier if you start young when your mind is super pliable and you're not encumbered by adult thought processes
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>>63905696
I understand people laughing at how bad Kylo was at dueling, but it makes sense and worked really well with his character. Not to mention it felt like he had the strongest command over the force out of any character we've seen on-screen before. He's powerful but he's not fully trained and he's emotionally unstable.

>>63905764
I'm not going to explain why the new trilogy ending with resetting everything back to Attack of the Clones is a bad idea. Even just the first line of that theory is shit. You're delusional if you think anybody would find that ending satisfying.
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>>63905764
How about the fact that it would make all the good movies non-canon (or in an alternate universe or whatever), while preserving the utterly shit ones?
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>>63905933
>AoTC
>He didn't read the fucking image
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All these Rey theories nobody really talks about the possibility that Luke doesn't know she's his daughter and that it was the mum who abandoned her on Jakku. I'm pretty sure in the scene with the lightsabre, the little old lady tells Rey that the person she is waiting for is not going to come but there is somebody else. And then Rey whispers "Luke"

I might be remembering that wrong but it felt like it was explicitly stating that the person who left her there and Luke are two separate people.
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>>63905990
Not even that anon, but that would be a good thing.
It would make the OT be a tragic story that was avoided only by the events that took place inside of it.
A necessary evil.
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>>63906049
I got that impression too anon.
I'm really, REALLY hoping that Rey isn't Luke's daughter. Can there not be another fucking force-sensitive family in the galaxy somewhere?
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>>63902034
I'm Poe with a dash of Finn.
Rebel scum and proud of it.
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>>63905991
It's a really really shit idea and it's embarrassing that you're putting any energy into defending it.
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7 swordsmen of the myst
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>>63905098

>"..even you, master of the Knights of Ren, have never faced such a test."

-Supreme Leader Big Guy
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>>63906181
Then let's hear your idea.
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>>63904496

Looks like there's a blade at the end of it. Gfycat links here, go on em for better quality.

EthicalPerfectGrasshopper

RingedInbornArmyworm
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>>63905444
>not Episode VIII: The First Order
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>>63906113
If she isn't related to anybody significant (and really, who else could it be?) they should have made that clear already.They're teasing the audience making everybody think she's Luke's daughter. A twist reveal where it turns out somebody ISN'T related is not exciting. It's an anti-climax.

Either way, it's not going to be shocking. If she is Luke's daughter, we all already sort of knew that. If she isn't, there isn't anything interesting about that revelation either. I hope it's dealt with in act I of the next movie, sort of like Kylo's parentage wasn't dragged out. It was mentioned almost casually early on.
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>>63906287
Guy on the left looks like he has a Boba Fett-style helmet. Even has some kind of an arm weapon.
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>>63904815
Rey is 19.
Confirmed in the Force Awakens novelization.
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>>63906287
Is it just the quality or does Kylo's saber look more stable there? Could this be a premonition rather than a memory?
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>>63906406
It still has the vents, it's the same unstable saber. I'm sure he'll get a new, proper lightsaber though once he's completed his training. Rey broke his.
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>>63906357
I see your point, but I'm just sick of everyone having to be a Skywalker. Maybe her parents will be connected to the plot of these movies, something with the First Order or something.

Or honestly, just drop the question entirely. It seemed like a theme in TFA was moving on. So just let her move on.
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What if she's related to Sheev?
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>>63906361
It's probably Fett's son.
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>>63904996
>Kylo travels back in time to stop Sheev
>better yet, Darth Bane
Yeah, I can totally see this. Would be amazing.
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>>63906406
I assumed the corpses were Luke's jedi order and the knights of ren were the defectors.
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>>63906406

It's just the compression of the gif and its limited colors eliminating all the detail
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>>63905170
>makes a statement about <Movie>
>is asked if he even watched <Movie>
>"no. and I shouldn't have to...[retarded bullshit]"

You kinda have to have seen something to make normative statements that are true. Generally. Unless you're guessing, and sometimes you can be correct.

But you weren't, because you're a fucking faggot and this board is filled with retards like you.

Either make funny ebin memes, discuss television and film, or drown yourself.
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Is Ren an honorific given to those in the Knights of Ren?
Kylo Ren, Bilbo Ren, Boba Ren etc.
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>>63906529
Are you just the same person posting over and over? How could anybody even remotely like this idea. It's completely nonsensical.

>travelling back into a movie from 10 years ago that most fans hate
amazing
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>>63906669
To render those movies no longer canon. We would be free.
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>>63906669
That wasn't me, no.
He doesn't travel back in time, anyway.
He imbues Anakin with the knowledge of what will happen if he continues down his current path.
Anakin, being the chosen one, finally brings true balance to the force.
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>>63906638
I'm starting to think it's possible. Since Kylo doesn't seem that high-ranking overall, and the way Snoke says that he is the strongest of the Knights of Ren or whatever. That would be a bit of a stupid statement if the group was literally named after him.
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I just assumed that the Knights of Ren were kind of like Vader's First from the comics and that First Order is just a coalition of empire remnant forces and resources.

It would be nice for that to be explained because I don't like having to use my mind to fill plot needs
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>>63906698
>ruining the new trilogy so that every film is non-canon besides The Phantom Menace
bravo lucas

>>63906756
you actually seem serious about thinking this is a good idea, i don't understand
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>>63906638
Well his real name is Ben Solo so Kylo Ren could be a total honorific. Like maybe Kylo means "superior" and Ren speaks for itself
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>>63903135
My nigga
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>>63906837
Because it is a good idea, anon.
"It isn't because it sucks" isn't a reason why it wouldn't be good.
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Rey confirmed for being part of the Knights.
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>>63906638
>>63906767
Adding onto this idea, if "Ren" is an honorific. And instead of bestowing the title Darth onto anybody (because there were too many / they were too shit), Snoke formed the Knights of Ren as a group of potential sith. And in the next movie we get to know the other ones better and maybe they betray Kylo/each other and the strongest becomes Darth ___

I don't really think this is going to happen, and don't particularity want it too. But I'm interested to see what other villains there will be and what Kylo's fate is.
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>>63906287
So the KoR is basically just some elite kill squad for the Empire. That's pretty dope
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>>63906844
Kylo is skywaker and solo together. How did no one notice this?
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>>63906978

Shit I didn't pick up on the sKYwalker part
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>>63906908
There is something not right about you. On no level would this ending satisfy anybody. The casual fans would leave confused, the hardcore fans would leave angry. It's utterly utterly shit, even for a fanfiction. If you can't understand why it's bad there is honestly no amount of detail I can give you that will make you understand.

Maybe instead you could explain how it could possibly be a satisfying ending to the new trilogy?
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>>63906978
letter selection is a bit random

would mean Rey would be Ader Ren
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>>63906978
I wonder at what point did he pick this name. Obviously he's proud of his Skywalker heritage because of his grandfather, but why would he name himself after Han?
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wew lad I thought kylo was the leader of the knights of ren
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>It is time to complete Kylo's training

WHAT DID HE ACTUALLY MEAN BY THIS
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>>63901768

Snoke called him the Last of the Knights of Ren, I imagine Luke killed the rest after they destroyed his Jedi Order. Luke don't play.
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>>63907063
I can certainly try.
The prophecy states that Anakin will bring balance to the force, but he doesn't.
Even after killing the Emperor, the Dark Side of the Force still exists as shown by Kylo Ren and Snoke existing.

By offing Sheev Anakin fulfills the prophecy.
It would be an unprecedented and never-before-done ending to a triple A film series.
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Knights of Ren and Stimpy
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>>63907175
Teach him the advantages of the high ground.
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I don't think I'd mind if Luke never picked up a lightsaber again. I definitely don't want to see him flipping around with it.
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>>63907212
Okay, now post again but this time explain why that would be a satisfying conclusion to any audience at all.
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>>63907244
I can guarantee you tears of sympathy and joy would be shed.
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>>63907175
He meant that it is time to complete Kylo's training
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>>63907244
Not him but I really dig the idea.
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>>63907295
From who?
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They're the people that showed up to Luke's Jedi academy and massacred everyone because Luke is a dumb asshole that wouldn't teach his apprentices how to build a god damn lightsaber. Because muh peace.
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>>63907332
Anyone with a vagina.
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>>63904214
Shes 19, kylo is 29, just like luke and han, and anakin and obi-wan
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They exist just to give the main characters some kills desu
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>>63907175

He meant that kylo's training is currently incomplete
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>>63907175

I think that would be the first time Kylo actually meets him in person and they'll spar

>yfw it turns out Kylo is a deep cover agent sent by Luke to kill Snoke, but to meet him he has to gain his trust by killing his own father
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>>63901704
Just a bunch of grunts, whats there to know?
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>>63907619
Their spar will look like Yoda vs Sheev because Snoke is actually tiny
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>>63901931
Oh my God.

They're Krikkitmen.
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>>63907199
No he said "Master of the knights of ren" not last.
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>>63903475
Nah, it was just Bad Robot and Lucasfilm title cards. This is Star Wars, not MCU.
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>>63907619
Holy shit, if this is true it would be the biggest twist in history. That would explain why he is such an edgelord. He has to cope with doing such shitty things.
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>>63907175
He'll become an actual Darth Sith in future movies.
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I really want Luke's force ability to reach absurd levels. Now that he's an Old Monk I want to see him like move a moon or some shit
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Or when the leaks come out
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>>63902034
Wat Tambor is at your disposal
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>>63908017
THAT'S
NO
Snoke.
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>>63907332
For you
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Luke will assemble a group of heroes to combat the knights of Ren

Coming 2017:
Episode 8
The Fantastic Force Avengers of the Galaxy
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>>63907649
I'm a little bit concerned about this. It feels very likely that Snoke will be small, or at least move in an unusual way since he's played by Andy Serkis. It also fits because he tries to be intimidating by projecting his hologram as huge.

But I don't know how they can do this reveal without it coming off as comical.
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>>63904499
>Mary Sue

"Mary sue" only means "competent female"
The movie is amazing and all of you are just being contrarians as usual. God forbid there is a positive role model for girls out there, we can't have that, oh fuck no!
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>>63908146
It feels like you're just baiting the anti-sjws but yeah. Rey was fine. If the character was played by a guy nobody would be talking about "mary sues" or "gary stus" or whatever it is.
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Two questions.

1.) Do people like Poe?

2.) Why?
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>>63901886
Snoke is their master.
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>>63908192
>Do people like Poe?
Yes.
>Why?
He's likable

Are you autistic, or what?
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>>63908146
>my face when I saw you post this on /pol/
>my face when I saw you post this in other /tv/ threads
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>>63908146
oh shut up your whiny dipshit. rey being capable of so many feats that luke could only do post-training is fucking bullshit and you know it.
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>>63908142

I think I can guess who he'll turn out to really be
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>>63908174
When they make a point to play le stronk female, then its bound to attract more criticism

If they just casually made her the hero nobody would've cared. Typical baiting though, that kike made a point to make her the lead and purposefully remove as many whites as possible then cry oppreshun when anyone says something about it
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>>63908224
No, he just seemed a bit dull to me. I can understand people liking him but I can't imagine anybody leaving the theatre with him as their new favourite character or anything like that.
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>>63902034

Even as a kid i was none of those.
The first SW character that i could say as a favorite or something was ep1 obi wan.
I was all in for the force and lightsaber jedi sith shit but i didnt find luke or especially Vader cool.
Despite growing up on OT then PT i am way more attached to TOR era characters.

After rewatching the entire saga i liked Kenobi in PT and Solo in OT the most.
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>>63908253
Luke was some whiny teenage that lived a fairly sheltered life, Rey has had to fend for herself basically her entire life. And the force in general seems to be stronger in these movies. Kylo's command over it was impressive, even though he's still lacking in training and can barely control his emotions/duel. Not to mention Anakin was doing wild shit at an even younger age, like building his own robot, podracing, etc. Rey's abilities aren't a problem at all.
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>>63902034
Where's the EU nerd stand in? It's certainly not that uncommon a stereotype.
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>>63903428
Knights of the Old Ren Order
Then "The Ren Lords"

And final and unexpected EP10 is The Shadow of Kylo Ren
Or Knights of the Fallen Ren Order


Just based on how originsl ep7 was.
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>>63908261
>If they just casually made her the hero nobody would've cared.
Exactly what they did.
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>>63904336
It almost felt like he was just fucking playing along from the delivery, especially after no-selling the first two tries.

>pff sure whatever I'll drop you the blaster too kid
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>>63902034
Fuck yeah, Poe. /tg/ has the good life for Poe fags.
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Do you think the 'son' reveal was ruined by Snoke and Leia/Han before THAT scene?

>You have to kill your father
>I saw him, Leia

Then THAT scene happens, it would've been so good.

Much better subtle dialogue.
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>>63908192
I do and because he's charismatic, his relation with his soccerball and his bromance with Finn was cute and he's a damn good pilot.

It's nice he's also a Latino too.
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>>63908437
It wasn't ruined, it was a sensible decision. The scene carried more impact/meaning because we already knew it was his son. If they had kept it secret and revealed it during that scene we would have had like one minute of surprise before the shock of Han being killed.
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I thought "The Raid" guys were supposed to be the Knights of Ren? I also thought that they were there to teach lightsaber duels and stuff. The fuck happened?
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Anyone have scans or torrents of the force awakens incredible cross sections or the visual dictionary?
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I think the Knights of Ren are all former students of Luke who were persuaded by Snoke, an ancient alien aligned to the dark side, to join the dark side.
They're all still training under Snoke with Kylo being the most proficient student which is why he's allowed to be on the front line.
I think we'll see a few of them in the sequel but in that image where they're all in the rain, they've just slaughtered other students who were unwilling to join them and members of the church Max Von Sydows character was a member of, which is why Luke sent him to Jakku to watch over Rey.
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>>63908514
>legitimately wanting The Raid style combat in a star wars movie
pls no
those fags were only there as stormtroopers
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>>63906529

>Kylo stopping Bane

Bane would literally tear him in half with his bare hands.
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>>63908700
I didn't say I wanted a Raid style combat. I wanted the lightsaber stuff to look brutal and messy. I thought they were there for that. In the end they were there just to tentacle-porn'd.
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>>63902034
What if you were one of those that liked all the cool aliens and their crazy societies and worlds? Does that mean I'm a Chewie or something?
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>>63906213
>>63905381
>>63905247

Knight's of Ren are a few students who decided to follow Snoke when he convinced them to destroy the ongoing jedi training, killing the ones who opposed. Luke, upset that he has failed as a teacher puts it all on Han and Leia's son, who was forced onto Luke for training when he tried to refuse because he could see the darkness within him. And 1 failure in a bunch is ok. A group of failures? Well Luke looks like a bad teacher.
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>>63908284

he was the only new handsome character. He flies an X-Wing. He has a soccerball robot.
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>>63908416
>fucking this

She happened to be with the most sarcastic stormtrooper in the Galaxy.
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In my bed laughing uncontrollably at the guy posting about the 'it was all a dream' ending. It's clearly a joke post you fucking moron, that is probably the worst ending to a trilogy ever seen. Retcons every film bar one completely, nonsensical, confusing/rage inducing to both general audience and fans- just lmao
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>>63906638
Oh fuck. Yeah. Supreme Leader Big Guy isn't a sith. Kylo Ren is a Sith Lord, and his apprentice will be CIA Ren, etc. etc.
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>>63908416

Yeah it didnt feel like actual mind trick.
It felt like the trooper just didnt give a fuck and went with it.
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>>63908877
I'm glad to see I wasn't going insane. I hope that guy is just messing around. How anybody could think that is a satisfying ending is beyond me
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>>63908904

When will you faggots realize that there isnt any Sith after EP6.

Dark side =\= sith
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>>63908970
Of course there will be more Sith.
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>>63906971

They've abandoned the Sith and the ideals that go with it.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/J-J-Abrams-Clears-Up-Huge-Misconception-About-Star-Wars-Villain-Kylo-Ren-79057.html
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>>63909096
Doesn't this literally only say that Kylo isn't a Sith in this movie? That doesn't mean much. I didn't read it all because the rest looked like filler by the article writer, but where did Abrams say that they've abandoned anything?

It's really hard to believe this will be the first Star Wars trilogy without any Siths or a Darth ___
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>>63909096

Exactly.
They had to because they cant pull shit like what kotor2/swtor/books has in a 12 rated disney movie.
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>>63909172

But its true.
There wont be any Sith unless they pull some Revan shit.
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>>63909198
>>63909227
What are you guys even talking about? Is this some EU shit? Every Star Wars movie has had sith, the people who make the movies aren't going to go "oh wait we can't have any more sith ever again because of some vague in-universe reason that most people aren't aware of". The title Darth is iconic. This trilogy will absolutely use it and it'll use the word "sith" too. It's easy to handwave whatever technicality you're caught up on and why wouldn't they
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>>63905579
Oh shit, that would be edgy and neat
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>>63906287
pretty funky party desu senpai
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>>63908146

Don't you have a ball pit filled with piss to drown in?
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>>63905114
So Anakin is Donnie Darko & Kylo is Frank the bunny?
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>>63902034
Poe here, the entire movie I was thinking about how cool Imperial military hardware must be
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>>63907175
TO HATE THE SAND
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>>63907898
You mean like Snape? Shit's been done before, yo.
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>>63909898

Snape wasn't presented as a full on villain from the start though, he was just an edgy teacher, and only seems like a full blown villain in the 6th book
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>>63907898
Luke: "Hey, go kill lots of innocent people and resistance fighters, but it's all just a ruse for you get close to Snoke and kill him. The ends justify the means, after all."
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>>63907898
It's an even bigger twist when you realize that Kylo was actually saving Rey from certain death during that flashback sequence with the knights of Ren. A jedi academy student was going to off her with a machete before he comes in and stabs the guy with his lightsaber

He's the one who sent her to Jakku, that's why gets all enraged when the First Order informs him that a girl is one of the suspects carrying around the droid and the plans. He also knows what she's capable of, which is why she tells the stormtroopers to find her as quickly as possible as possible after her escape.

On the other hand the cover agent shit doesn't make sense because it goes against his little talk-to-talk with Vader's helmet about the temptations of the light side.
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why didnt they all have lightsabers
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>>63910895
jj watched the plinkett reviews
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>>63910895
Because they're high school kids that're still in-training.

Kylo's lightsaber is made from cheap scrapheap for a reason.
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>>63904336

Luke had shit faith in the force. He was even in doubt after Yoda pulled out the X-Wing from the swamp and Yoda told him "And that is why you fail"

Rey bought into the Force way earlier than Luke did.
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>Trained by Luke
>doesn't seem to know that Vader turned to the light in the end
>Vader is a force ghost now why doesn't he just appear and tell him?

Like this stuff isn't really plausible is it?
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>>63903826
Rey = king

king of kings = Christ
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>>63907175
It means Snoke is actually a manlet.
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>>63911342
>doesn't seem to know that Vader turned to the light in the end

He knows, he just doesn't care
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