>your rating /10
>something you thought was good
>something you thought sucked
>7/10
>hux/kylo ren competition
>finn starting off as a compelling character and then devolving into a retarded comedic relief monkey
>>63882449
>8.5/10
>Kylo Ren being flawed
>Starkiller Base being destroyed (and like no big deal either)
>>63882449
9.1/10
Poe in general
The Rathtar scene
6.5/10
>good character interaction and motivation
>horrible worldbuilding, very hard to believe that this is 30 years after ROTJ, death star 3.0 but better is completely unnecessary and the movie either needed to be entirely about destroying it or entirely about finding luke, not both
a lot better than expected
7/10
I like Rey and Finn, and the overall feeling of the movie was good, but the plot was retarded (let's build another death star! This time it will work!) and Kylo Ren is a whiny bitch. Ford and Fisher were not great either.
>>63882449
>7.5/10
>having no fucking clue what or who rey is, her being a total fucking mystery
>starkiller base i just death star 3.0, fuck that
too many things recycled from a new hope overall to give it an 8 or higher desu
>>63882786
Kylo is supposed to be a bitch you dense fuck. What was wrong with Ford?
>>63882859
He just stood there and looking bored, like he couldnt wait to get home.
>>63882449
>9/10
>The Characters are not one dimensional and boring
>The similarities to IV/V
>>63882859
I get that he is supposed to be a bitch, I just don't like that character choice. Ford was acting like he really didn't want to be there in about half the scenes he was in (he was fine in the Starkiller base though) and he is just a little too old for the character I thought.
>>63882449
4/10
>>63882965
I really disagree, he seemed like Han to me. Not only Han but what he would be like 30 years later
>10/10
>it was the Star Wars of my generation
>have to wait years for the next one :(
>6/10
>no one is immortal
>everything was rushed. not enough moments to give the characters depth
overall a solid film but it had a lot of flaws
>>63882449
4/10
The CGI was better than any other SW film.
The hacky dialogue and derivative plot/mary sue lead killed this movie for me.
>>63882449
>6/10 could go up though after the trilogy is complete
>Poe and Finn character chemistry
>Rey and the fact that the entire film is just A New Hope with some original stuff
>>63883012
Hey at least he has some depth to him unlike any villain from the prequels
>>63883139
and yet he is still a much less compeling villian than Darth Vader
>6/10 watchable
>beginning in the desert/ life of the people on jakku with rey
>feeling that this is 0815 avengers average movie
>6/10
>"BEN!"
>Rey's overacting and her character in general, it being overly derivative, predictable, and overall not an interesting movie
>>63882449
7/10
>The new characters (even Rey). I liked the tormtrooper becoming humanized
>Han and Leia talking. That was some tv tier dialogue. In fact a lot of the film reminded me of tv shows
>>63883139
>Hey at least he has some depth to him unlike any villain from the prequels
At least Darth Maul was intimdating and added menace to the film, Kylo is just boring and hacky.
>>63883185
Well yeah, because you have 3 movies with Darth Vader. He was just a badass villain in A New Hope
>>63883139
I'd agree, I just hope they develop him into becoming a much more compelling villian in 8 and 9. I'd say he completed a full transition to the Dark Sidewhen he killed Han.
>>63883185
Rewatch ANH
>9/10
>rey was a really good character, innocent and bewildered at everything like anakin in prequels, but better developed, plus she friendzoned the nigger
>kylo ren was an absolute whiny faggot, overhyped, and in the end really disappointing
>>63883259
subtle bait
>>63883259
this
>>63883231
Darth Maul was just that though, Kylo has 2 more movies to develop
>>63882449
Solid 7/10 nothing more. Nothing to really love and nothing to really hate about it. Just the typical solid Disney/marvel sci-fi movie.
>>63882449
8/10
>good: Poe, Kylo Ren, Han Solo
>bad: rey shreking kylo ren just like that
>>63883314
what makes you think its bait
>>63883231
You can't say with a straight face that he's boring.
>>63883251
The worst thing they could do with his character would be to redeem him. I also want him to become a real badass evil asshole, but that couldn't be fully appreciated without first setting him up as a human, relatable character.
>>63883251
He definitely did, that's basically what he told Han too
>8/10
>Likeable characters, gives the trilogy good potential, ambiguous character backgrounds
>Rushed in places, plot holes
The downsides I mentioned don't bother me too much as I don't have Aspergers. Was going to say about the similarities between TFA and ANH, but I'll wait to see how the trilogy plays out. If it ends up being the Jedi defeating Snoke, Kylo Ren redeeming himself like the OT then that'll suck, but I'm hoping for some twists and a different ending. TFA was much better than expected.
>>63882449
9/10
The good
The broship between Finn and poe
The bad
Han dying
7/10
>the force being actually useful
>Rey being a Mary Sue (might redeem itself if she becomes evil)
>>63883372
This guy knows my feelings
Episode 1-3 were kick ass, gay disney dick suckers .
>>63882859
Nothing. Ford was awesome. The best he's been in years. The guy who wrote that is a virgin with incurable neckfat. Discard his words as meaningless.
>>63883426
Exactly. I don't want him to be redeemable at this point. I'd like to see his complete transition to a fucking Sith Lord especially now that we know who he was.
>>63882449
6/10
The good:
It's enjoyable, something the prequels weren't.
The bad:
It's not a Star Wars movie, it's a Disney movie.
>>63883259
>friendzoned the nigger
You are fucking deluded pal they are clearly going down the romance lines with them. You really think Jew Jew is going to pass up the chance for interracial romance?
>>63883259
shes just such a qt, i mean cmon
5/10
good: Kylo; Poe and Finn's bromance
bad: Rey is an expert in everything she does; STAR WARS Episode 4.20
6/10
>>63883548
>rey isn't going to fall in love with kylo ren
you are the one thats fucking deluded
>>63882449
> 9/10
> Poe and Kylo Ren
> How the fuck did Rey shoot 3 trained stormtroopers who had time to aim with a gun she couldn't even use?
>>63882449
7/10
>all the first order characters
>the way the phasma and first order got jobbed
>>63882449
9/10
>Kylo Ren is a fascinating character and his actor did an excellent job selling that internal conflict
>When even your characters in-universe are calling out your lazy writing over doing yet ANOTHER "we gotta blow up this operational battle-station!" plot for your climactic setpiece, then maybe you should rethink the script.
>>63883548
>T-they're saving it up for the sequel I promise!
Jesus, cuckposters are pathetic
>6/10
>Oscar Issac broing it up
>the bad cg on princess leia's face had me uncanny valley-ing during every closeup of her
>8/10
>Kylo Ren/Ben Solo
>Starkiller Base
>6/10
>Any scene involving stormtroopers
>Too repetitive, shitty chase scene with CGI tentacle monster
8.5/10
>Oscar Issac
>Not enough Oscar Issac
He better be more prominent in 8, I think with Finn being in a coma-esq situation (kinda like Luke in the beginning of ESB) we'll get more Poe in the beginning or first half of 8.
8/10
Good: Practical Aliens and Puppets were great, new and old characters were fun and interesting, manages to capture the fun tone of the originals
Bad: A New Hope 2.0, another fucking death star, rey being a mary sue, the entire nightmare sequence was off and fucked with pacing
>>63882449
>7/10
>The self-awareness to make Kylo Ren a Vader fanboy rather than a Vader ripoff.
>Han Solo's death. It's probably time for him to go, but he should have gone with a Han Solo-style smirk on his face pressing the red button and blowing up the place. He's an iconic character and deserved better than being shanked and thrown off a platform.
>7/10
>New characters are good, interested to see what happens next in the story.
>Too much fucking poetry, fuck off with all the callbacks and references JJ we get it.
>>63883610
nah, I bet she'll fall in love with the pilot dude while the black dude is in coma, and then they'll find out that the pilot is her brother and then she'll go back to the black dude who'll wake up or something
>>63883371
>>63883231
Maul was a wasted opportunity to show people what a "real sith" is (as opposed to a Jedi who eventually fell for the Dark Side and was fucked over in the process) and what sith culture and philosophy are about, and why everyone thinks it's fucked up.
All the other siths we've seen were either tricked into becoming evil, or were already full-grown bad guys, whereas Maul was still an apprentice, and unlike Vader, he was PROUD of being an evil asshole. But we never got to see what this attitude entailed.
At least with Ren we finally see what a guy who WANTS to be evil acts like until he's become a real villain. And that shit is fascinating.
>>63883615
>kylo ren trying to be some sort of dark ascetic mystic
>got jobbed
generally:
>movie hypes itself up at various points
>doesn't deliver fully
>>63883259
>>63883548
>>63883610
>Rey and Poe were not excluded, though their sudden, tight clinch of shared excitement led to a moment of mutual awkwardness.
“Uh, hi,” the pilot mumbled. “I’m Poe.”
She nodded slowly, searching his face and finding that she liked it. “I recognize the name. So you’re Poe. Poe Dameron, the X-wing pilot. I’m Rey.”
“I know.” He smiled back, a little more at ease. “Nice to meet you.”
>7/10
>Kylo Ren being a Vader wannabe rather than a Vader clone, Poe Damnson
>It follows almost the exact same plot as the original movie, Rey being a mary sue
8/10
>Poe and Finn
>Starkiller Base being glossed over and I felt the tone was inconsistent
>>63883749
he gonna come back with spider legs like darth maul
>>63883807
Poe is obviously a gay character
>>63883848
kek
>>63883738
>Any scene involving stormtroopers
They were great
>Dat opening scene
>The two who talks about a new model lf a blaster or spaceship or something
>The Daniel Craig trooper
>Those two that turn around when Ren is sperging out
>TRAITOR
>Riot trooper fucking up Finn
8/10
>pretty much everything
>the story was a rehash of a new hope, to the point where they couldn't even change what kind of planets they went to
>>63883859
If he is, I'm going to kill myself
>>63883548
JJ Abrams is not writing or directing the next two movies. Episode VII was his movie and now he's done with it.
>likable characters
>Rey
>Finn
>Kylo Ren
>>63883969
read the novels fuckface
>>63883610
Possibly this.
They need to keep the Skywalker bloodline going past episode 9. So either Rey is a Skywalker or her and Kylo will make a new one.
>>63882449
>8.76413/9.999998
>General ambience was bretty gud
>Solo's death seemed like it didn't affect anyone
8.5/10
>good: kylo ren being an intimidating and monstrous villain yet also having a surprising amount of depth
>sucked: the way they chose to reveal Luke at the end and the weird panning helicopter shot being the last cut in the film
>>63883752
This sums it up for me.
>calculating averages of posted scores in the thread because why the fuck not
>average score of 7.2/10 out of 36 posts
3/10
>Kylo was cool most of the time
>Storm troopers were entertaining
>xwing scenes were cool
>to many cringy jokes
>Kylo was cringy a few times
>black character / race mixing propaganda
>pacing was horrible
>death star rehash
>way to much fan service
>character development was hamfisted
It was okay
9/10
>>63882449
That scene is so obviously and hamfistedly supposed to look like the Nuremburg rally
>>63883548
Boyega is already screen testing for chemistry with actresses to play Finn's love interest in Episode VIII. Rey will likely remain single throughout the trilogy as Luke did.
>>63884027
I don't care about the novels dipshit.
>7/10
>Btich ass nigger getting his monkey hands all over muh rey
>Rey is a qt
>>63884007
This kind of worries me actually. We know that JJ is at least a solid pick for Star Wars now.
Colin Trevorrow for Episode IX especially has me concerned. The guy directed one small indie film and suddenly he's been handed the keys to the kingdom with Jurassic World and Star Wars, how has that happened?
>>63882449
>8/10
>The Characters were all pretty cool, the direction of the story has me hooked for what comes next. Plenty of balance between cool light side characters and dark side characters.
>The Starkiller base was pretty forced in. If it was such a big threat why not stretch it out over the next three and have it be an end game piece. Why throw it in and destroy it so fast.
>>63884150
>black character / race mixing propaganda
>>63884240
He sucked a lot of corporate cock
Just figuratively I hope
Whay was rens relationship with darthvader? i mean he's not his grandfather but he has his face mask skeleton on his vader love shrine and he obviously aspires to be like him so whats the deal.
>>63882449
8/10
Finn, I thought he was great
Rei had far to much control over the force
>>63884325
Uh, Vader is Ren's grandfather.
>>63884240
Safety Not Guaranteed but Jurrasic World was really fucking bad and that's what I expect SW 9 to be. It seems like he's just become a Yes man director which is a shame because I though he has some potential after his first film.
I'm incredibly excited for 8 though since Rian Johnson is directing it. That guy knows what he's doing IMO. I don't see him taking shit from Disney on his writing either.
>>63884325
ren is han and leia's kid.
you answered the rest of your question in your own post
>>63882449
8/10
>good acting, great action sequences
>that scene where they're able to bring down the entire Earth-sized base's shields just by putting A blaster to a stormtroopers head.
Some plot holes, sure, just like literally every other Star Wars. Pretty good overall.
>>63884355
wait but he's hans son not lukes wut
>7/10
>use of practical effects
>homage paid to the originals while still being unique enough to be seperate
>few too many campy bits (Finn was a bit too much of a baffoon, soccer ball droid was a but too much like a Disney pet dog character)
>underuse of Oscar Issac
Overall I though it was pretty good for a reboot
>>63884425
Fuck off, asshole.
>>63884325
This post is giving me PTSD
>>63884260
oberstein-kun
; _ ;
u will never get the respect u deserve
>>63884392
Yeah, I'm excited about Johnson, at least the guy has fresh ideas and has created something fresh and innovative.
Hopefully Trevorrow has a Trank-style meltdown and is taken off production before it happens.
>>63884402
oh leia i get it now
>>63884425
He's Han and Leia's kid
>>63884392
>Johnson
Are you serious? Looper was tired as fuck
3/10
Lots of diversity
Le strong perfect independent woman who becomes master jedi within 30 minutes universe time and 5 minutes movie time
>>63884452
>>63883548
Jedis dont do romance, fucker
>>63884546
But Luke was pretty much the same
>>63884546
this is shitty bait
>9/10
>It was fun. Pretty much everything boils down to that, it was fun.
>You pretty much have to read supplemental material to understand Republic-Resistance-First Order relationship. Could have been simplified just down to Rebels-Empire and no one would have been confused. This is nitpicky, but I thought it was a way too complicated backstory thing for fucking Star Wars.
>No scenes with all of the new big three characters together interacting, all the three actors did a great job, why not let them interact? (Especially lacking Rey and Poe interaction)
>>63884629
at least he has a montage
>>63884392
Safety Not Guaranteed was a dime-a-dozen stereotypical indie film about hipsters being hipsters.
>>63884546
i tip my fedora to you cinema master
>>63884610
This
Last time they did it led to all of them getting killed
>>63884646
can you explain me how the republic-resistance-first order thing works?
>>63884541
I disagree. Looped is a great film along with his previous films. Brick is incredibly underrated imo as well.
>>63884558
>anime fag
>having a valid opinion
>>63882449
Numerical ratings are stupid but 8/10
>Good
I enjoyed the fact that it felt like a Star Wars sequel. It didn't rely on nostalgia and did plenty of new things. The "REHASH" complaint is a non-issue for me. Star Wars has always been about callbacks and parallels.
They nailed all of the little details that make a Star Wars movie unique.
The new characters are all great. Kylo Ren is a far more interesting character than I expected.
Han felt like Han and seeing him back in action was fun. His relationship with Leia felt just right.
As disappointed as I was with only getting 30 seconds of Luke, I'm really happy with how they gave him such legendary status, to the point that he's literally considered a myth. No better way to treat the greatest Jedi of all time.
>Bad
Maz has an ugly design and her voice actor wasn't great. Easily the worst new character and felt really out of place.
Both Maz and Snoke did not need to be CGI. They hyped up the practical effects so much, yet the two most important new aliens were CGI. Dumb as fuck.
The score is by far the weakest of the saga and nothing even comes close to matching the music from the prequel trilogy. I hate to say it but John Williams has lost his touch.
>>63884629
>>63884645
>>63884712
Hello Reddit!
>>63884646
I personally hope Poe never meets Rei. Every hero from a galaxy spanning rebellion don't need to meet
>>63884752
>tfw we'll never get the Knights of the old republic movies
Why fucking live
>>63884773
you faggot edgelord contrarians need to go back to /r/movies. you act like a fucking expert and hate everything you see.
>>63884679
I didn't say it was the greatest film of all time just that I enjoyed it and I thought CT showed a lot of potential, especially with it being his first film. Obviously I was wrong because JW was fucking terrible.
>>63884646
>I thought it was a way too complicated backstory thing for fucking Star Wars.
What do you mean? I thought it was pretty simple; the First Order has risen to overthrow the current powers and re-establish the Empire. The only thing I was confused about is what the "Resistance" is (given there's not really anything for them to be resiting)
>>63884755
Maz looked like a fucking minion
>>63884755
>It didn't rely on nostalgia and did plenty of new things
Come now. I enjoyed the movie but to say it didn't rely on nostalgia is retardation
>>63882449
>9/10
>Amazing creativity, best Han, Leia performances, including the OT
>CG Snoke, he's not impossible to create with make up, pic related
7/10
Good: opening scene, BB-8, Falcon take-off and escape, TRAITOR stormtrooper, Chewy, Kylo's fits of rage.
Bad: almost identical clone of A New Hope, too many winks toward the original trilogy, Starkiller shields are stupid since any ship with lightspeed capability could get through no problem, too much Nazi symbolism with New Order, Finn was too good with a lightsaber, Luke scene was awkward.
>>63884755
i thought the music sucked too
>>63884646
Wtf? the R-R-FO dynamic is pretty easy to understand if you have watched the previous films. They even explain it in the opening text sequence.
>>63884325
But Vader is literally Ren's grandfather...
>>63884646
>you pretty much have to read supplementary material
What material? The opening text crawls? Expanded Universe isn't canon.
>6/10
>Fin, despite all the memeing just because he was black, was actually a pretty interesting character and was acted well. Rooted for him the whole film.
>Rey is the most Mary Sue bullshit I've seen in a movie in a long time, and her being the main character makes me seriously question wasting my time with the next two movies. They blatantly wrote around Fin being the main character but pussied out due to international market pressure halfway in and had to scramble to make Rey the best at everything.
>>63884854
This. It wasn't clear why they blew up the first planets. Were they able to blow up any planet in the galaxy from their location?
>>63884815
>contrarian
good goy!
>>63884875
It only relied on nostalgia in that it's a Star Wars movie. There are going to be constants that are unavoidably iconic.
>>63884926
It was definitely a SW soundtrack though. It was ok. It was just missing some iconic songs. At least the prequels had Duel of the Fates.
>>63884926
>>63884755
Yeah I'm giving a third to the music complaint actually. I only saw it last night and I can't remember any of the original music
>>63884412
>>good acting, great action sequences
When will this tourist cancer that knows nothing about cinema leave?
>your rating /10
6/10
>something you thought was good
Daisy Ridley a cutie that did a good job
>something you thought sucked
Kylo Ren as a whole. Just made for a bad villain
>>63884916
Yes they upped the Nazism to a cringeworthy level. I know there are supposed to be obvious similarities, but they went overboard. Especially that salute/Nuremburg rally scene
>>63884425
are you fucking dumb? darth vader was leia's dad so he is his grandfather
>>63884815
If you use the word "contrarian," you're literally an idiot. It's an invented concept by idiots with reddit sensibilities who are too fragile to deal with criticism of mediocre media that has widespread appeal.
It's a troubling manifestation of millennials' mental weakness. Seriously, the only people who would even entertain any "argument" involving the concept of being "contrarian" are weak, lazy idiots who can't deal with criticism substantively.
If it bothers you that much that people criticize mediocre mass-marketed work designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, like Star Wars, Breaking Bad, pop music, etc., you should find a safe bubble and stay there. Or kill yourself.
>>63885029
>Kylo Ren as a whole
This. They made a mistake by showing his face so soon; it brought him down, humanized him too much. They should've waited until at least theHan death scene
>>63882449
4/10
>han solo
>you know what and it triggered my fucking PTSD
>there are people who seriously believe the ANH rehash meme
>there are people who don't think Kylo Ren is a great character
>>63882449
5/10
Film's a cynical franchise re-launcher ala Jurassic World.
Enjoy your Star Wars movie every year until you die.
>>63882634
literally my view as well
>7.5/10
>the supporting characters are like able
>the pacing is terrible.
>>63885219
Only thing cynical here is you kiddo. Enjoy dying alone
>>63885119
Humanizing him early was good though. It will make him a better villian for later in the trilogy. Were gonna get to see him rise to a full fledged mature Sith Lord instead of a whiny child, similar to a young Anakin Skywalker.
0/5
Freighter sequence re-introducing Han and Chewbacca
Awful editing/action scenes, zero gravitas. no attempts at emotional resonance ring true, because they feel like they popped off an assembly line in a nerd's basement. kylo ren is a cartoon, and has zero of the imposing nature of his idol. like a failed pilot episode of a star wars spinoff, this is a joke.
>>63882843
They'll explain that in the next one. People think they'll explain eveeything in the first part.
>>63885200
>>there are people who seriously believe the ANH rehash meme
How can you not see it?
>>63885318
It's no more a rehash of IV than The Phantom Menace was.
>>63885219
>Enjoy your Star Wars movie every year until you die.
Fate worse than death 2bh
>>63885078
>posts a pic saying Art-house fans are fair and intelligent and that action fans are pissy and immature
>post is pissy and immature
>8.5
>General Aesthetic. It all looked really nice. Likeable characters. Fin, Rey, and Poe were all enjoyable to see on screen. Could have used a lot more Poe though, he was good. Oh and and like how they factored in the strange design on Kylos saber. Makes way more sense.
>I didnt like how Rey went from, "Oh Im sensitive to the force" to "Now now I'm kicking ass". She needs to take a more gradual path to being powerful.
Thankfully they didnt completely jack it up. Finn got rocked, as he should have.
>>63882449
>9/10
>Kylo Ren was surprisingly interesting
>Rey was surprisingly boring
>>63885277
he's right tho. I enjoyed the film, but you're fucking kidding yourself if you think this isn't a cynical film
>>63885344
This is horse shit and you know it
>>63882449
>4/10
>Finn pretty high on coolguy scale. That this was only the first movie and there's a chance that they'll get better.
>Just about the entire rest of the movie and how blatant of a reskin it is. Rey.
>7.5/10
>The escape of the star destroyer with Finn and Poe was awesome
>Han dying from a whiny emo faggot weak villain
>>63885396
*that 9/10 is just because it was Star Wars, btw. If this was from a franchise that I wasn't already a fan of I would have given it a 7.
>7/10
>Hux speech and the starkiller base shooting the death rays.
>Rey was kinda autistic.
>8/10
>Great characters, best duels in series, effects overall pretty good, storm troppers and kylo ren have the best moments
>Some shoddy editing, too many conveniences, any plot involving starkiller base
>8/10
>The new Characters, the story in general, even if is only a "a new hope 2.0"
>The fact that rey, whitout any training can use the force better than a trained Ren Knight. Kylo Ren is a good villain, but adam Driver is not the best actor to impersonate him
>>63885448
No, I would give it a 7.5/10 for a Star Wars film, if it was from another franchise, I'd give it an 8 or 8.5/10
It was definitely entertaining.
5/10
Poe and good chemistry in the whole cast
Mary Sue, copy pasta plot and shit writing when they tried something new
>>63885491
>Rey was autistic
This. Rey had too much of a 360 atHan's muder,he literally went from pure evil to suddenly wanting help to pure evil again with almost not transition.
>2/10
>Finn was surprisingly entertaining
>Rey is a complete Mary Sue
I liked that finn was a stormtrooper
but they don't explain how he is a bro and not a nazi
>8.5/10
>Kylo Ren stopping a blaster in mid fucking air, and having it stay in place while he was walking around holy shit what a beast
>Rey's exceptional force capability remains largely unexplained in my eyes
possibly will rewatch tomorrow
>>63882449
Just watched it and I have to give it a 7.5/10,it flowed like a SW movie from start to finish,well made,good characters and all the typical bells and whistles you'd expect.
The story itself:
This is where it my 2.5 points are deducted,it felt very much like a New Hope v2.0 in many ways with yet another Deathstar being blown up just in the nick of time.
It left too many questions unanswered for my liking
>>63885576
don't they mention that they're working to train all the troopers? They mention how FN would be sent back for reprogramming or something, which leads me to suspect that it's actually a common problem with current methods.
>>63882449
7/10
Death scene felt pretty genuine, really like the caress of the face at the end, nice touch.
Star Killer Base blew up. Should have just damaged the Weapon and left the base intact.
6.5/10
Best part of the movie was Kylo Ren.
Finn was a great character, Im very irritated he didn't end up being the Jedi, now I know its going to focus on Rey which brings me to my next point.
Rey is awful. Poorly written, all of her lines are terrible, and she is acted poorly. That bitch is stonefaced and terrible. Her entire arc is shit. She doesn't have the right feel she needs to have to pull off badass chick. A good example would be Furiosa from Fury Road. With Rey it is just so fucking forced, and it doesn't play at all. Also, she shouldn't be so strong with the force when Kylo has had a ton of training. Also, she shouldn't be so competent with the lightsaber when Kylo has had way more training and experience. Fuck her, shes a fucking Mary Sue. Boring as fuck.
Too many "lol remember old star wars?" references.
7.5/10
Good: New character dimensions in Kylo Ren. An inexperienced villain.
Bad: Everything about Starkiller base.
>>63883610
Kylo and Ren will like each other and then realize they are related through the Skywalker bloodline as a reference to the original trilogy. She will end up with the nigger.
>>63885682
i did not pick that up. It's implied he taken as a kid, so he has at least 20 yrs of programming? How does he talk like a bro?
>>63885781
you get it
>>63885747
Oh yeah didn't even touch on the fact that they literally made another death star that is like 100 times bigger and more powerful. Where did they get the money and resources for this? The empire was destroyed. They did an awful job actually filling the gap between 6 and 7.
Also did I mention Rey is terrible?
>>63885781
did you not hear, boyega is already doing chemistry testing with a new romantic interest for next episode you fucking dipshit
>>63882668
This
>>63885831
How has the new one not already started filming yet? Isn't it only 15 months away?
6/10
>Finn and Poe moments, Kylo Ren
>everything else
>>63882449
4/10
CGI battles
Mary Sue Rey
>>63882449
7/10
New characters were competent and likable (Finn and Poe broing it up)
The Death Star rehash that diverted the story from finding Luke into a cheap Episode IV knock off and whose one firing was not properly explained.
>90% of posts ITT commend the Finn and Poe camaraderie
Are you guys retarded? That was probably one of the worst aspects in the movie, they were in a spaceship for a grand total of 3 minutes, whereafter they immediately became best friends.
Hack writing at its absolute worst, and you morons actually commend it.
I guess it's finally time to leave this autistic board behind, you guys are just too autistic for me.
>>63886149
speaking from experience going through a life or death situation with someone generally strengthens your bonds with them.
of course you wouldn't know that being an indoor neet. so shut your fucking mouth
8/10
Kylo VS Rey and Finn
Lack of bromance between Poe and Finn
>>63886149
Most people are just parroting others. This is how the fans of star shit work
>>63882449
>your rating /10
7.5/10
>something you thought was good
alien and set designs were real nice, I liked the new characters when they got a chance to be away from the senior citizens.
>something you thought sucked
too vague on the politics of the universe (who're the resistance are they part of the republic or a sponsored insurgency? how big is the first order? how much of the republic was actually destroyed by starkiller base etc.) just too much shit not explained at all and it feels like a cop-out to not get too see any of the New Republic and we're just back to square one of scrappy rebels fighting the Empire just so we can re-hash the same elements of the original films again which is my main problem so far nothing truly new has been added everything feels derivative and unoriginal so far.
>>63882449
>6/10
>decent action scenes, definitely the dogfights
>lack of niche Star Wars cinematography
>>63882449
7-8/10
Kylo Ren is like a child and actually has character flaws.
Rey is a strong independant Mary Sue who does nothing wrong.
>>63882786
Ford and Fisher I agree. No chemistry. It all felt "forced"
4/10
>kylo ren
>rey didn't get BLACKED
>>63886149
See. >>63886321
Also, most people have acknowledged that Finn and Poe camaraderie was underused but like what we saw from them. The broship between the too was a highlight of the film. Most just want to see them utilized more together.
>>63883671
pretty much this
>>63886321
It's one thing going through a life or death situation with someone you know, another thing entirely when it's some random darkie.
It was completely unbelievable, unless of course you're a sub 80 IQ mouthbreathing retard, as it seems 90% of /tv/ is at the moment.
>>63886569
It's completely believable dumb fuck.Of course a NEET then never leaves mommies basement wouldn't understand that though.
>>63882449
>5/10
>The bridgeless design of the first order star destroyers was a cool adaptation of some of the super star destroyer concept art from 1979.
>The pacing sucked, the camera work was MCU-tier, muh Mary Sue, muh nostalgia, it felt like it was the same old latter day happy-go-lucky quip-laden disney adventure film, only this time slathered in a Dr. Who-ified bastardization of the Star Wars iconography the way the sentient cockroach in Men In Black wore Vincent D'Onofrio's skin.
>>63883848
>>63886451
>implying she didnt
Finn had his nigger hands all over her the entire movie and it pissed me off.
A good 8/10
+outstanding vehicle battles
+made me laugh
+that millennium falcon reveal
/went quite far from the normal series
/a re-hash of episode 4
-Han Solo's death was stupid
-cheap plot devices
>>63882449
>5/10
>Finn's character, especially when he confessed he wasn't Resistance to Rey
>The movie trying to be about too many things at once AND fanbase fellatio dooming it to mediocrity
9/10
Loved Kylo Ren, Finn was surprisingly great, that last scene with Luke was awesome
Only thing I didn't like was it felt very rushed with Finn leaving the order and breaking out Poe
>>63886656
No, it's not.
It's incredibly shitty writing.
>how do we make these two guys friends
>err, they shoot some tiefighters down together
According to that logic, he's better friends with every single pilot that went with him to destroy the death star.
Finn shouldn't be shit compared to them.
I thought it was a 10/10 tbqh. It wasn't Citizen Kane but it was EVERYTHING I wanted out of a Star Wars flick and easily the best since ESB
>All characters were on point. Esp liked the main trio, even though Poe was a bit underutilized. Harrison Ford actually gave a shit. Liked how the villains had their own dynamic going on, and Kylo Ren and Hux hated each other despite being on the same side. Maz Kanata was based and basically served to BTFO midichlorians
>Didn't like how we didn't see much of Luke, even though his limited role made sense within the story and he probably would have ruined the climax if he showed up out of nowhere. Would have also liked to see just a little bit more of the Knights of Ren.
>>63882449
I haven't seen it yet but how can so many of the comments be saying "it was great 8/10" and then listing a flaw as "it was a complete rehash and reused everything from New Hope"
I mean are you guys so forgiving that a movie that is practically just a safe remake that exists for no purpose gets a free pass and is considered a great movie? I just don't really get how you can say it's a 9/10 and then say that its flaw is plagiarizing itself.
Shouldn't that have more of an impact on your rating? Where are the standards boys?
>these ratings
Just more proof that we need a containment board for these star wars cross boarders.
>>63886740
>8/10
>has has many flaws as it has positive traits
You are a moron.
>>63882449
2/10
Storm Troopers, especially TR-8R
Everything else sucked.
>>63886799
kill yourself mike. RLM is officially dead
>>63882449
6/10
not boring
the plot is unoriginal and full of holes
>anything above 6/10
>into the trash it goes
If Empire is 10/10 how can TFA even be above a 6, honestly?
>>63882449
>solid 9/10
>TRAITOR!!!!
>build an even bigger deathstar instead of using the ressources and money on fucking 200 armadas of Super Star Destroyers
seriously who the hell approves the relocation of the ressources in the empire/the order.
>>63886789
Where does it say that he's friends with Finn? Right now there just casual acquaintances that got out of a desperate situation together and the two actors happen to have great chemistry together. People on /tv/ want to see more of that and the development of their friendship. That's the general consensus. I guess reading and thinking is hard for you though.
>>63882449
8/10
loved pretty much all the bad guys
raid guys horribly underutilized
>>63886799
wait a few days and then watch a decent camrip
you're going to be surprised how different the movie feels after they meet up with Han and the lack of a solid single plotline kicks in.
5/10, worse than ROTS
Surprisingly erotic dynamic between Kylo and Rey
Starkiller Base was worse than Jar Jar. By a long shot
>>63886937
What's stupid isn't so much that the FO decided to build a new Death Star, but rather that the New Republic wasn't even remotely interested in building their own deterrent super weapon. It would be like the Soviets being uninterested in nuclear weapons after WW2 because...reasons.
8/10
Characters, action and overall feel of it
The safeness of the movie. Starkiller could've been a cool new flavor on the death star but it just wasn't.
>>63886834
>insignificant cons
>>63886817
Half the posters here aren't from this board and don't actually know how to rate stuff using numbers
Its only meme arrows on their home boards
6.5
>Overall enjoyable experience
>Finn and Han were both good characters
>Kylo was absolutely great, and the only parts of the film you can get emotionally invested in are his
>The initial falcon escape was awesome
>The lightsaber fight felt better than previous movies, but they could still do it better.
>Hux speech
>BB-8 kind of cute
>Chewy's still goat
>0% worldbuilding, why is the resistance a resistance? there was simply nothing at stake in the whole first order/starkiller/republic/resistance plotline
>Carry Fischer made her scenes look like a television show
>Poe actually not a great character
>despite the memes, Rei is actually a mary sue character and undergoes 0 development, just develops powers because she can try hard enough
Overall I liked a comment hat someone made in a previous thread - JJ simply can't into tension. There are some cool scenes and funny bits, but I only ever really cared about a character or action when Kylo was frustrated and taking his anger out on things. It was an alright flick but played it way too safe
>>63887024
>Starkiller Base was worse than Jar Jar. By a long shot
this
they fucked up so badly. it wasn't even in the title crawl yet is supposed to be the climax.
the movie only had to be about Han dying and finding Luke. doing that many things at once doomed it.
6/10
Poe/Finn rescue especially flying in the TIE fighter
A complete carbon copy of ANH down to every plot point and major event, except the ending which is a copy of ROTJ
Honestly I'm more hopeful about the next ones though because I think this is when it will start to go it's own way now that they did the whole callback thing
>6/10
Good:
>Poe and Finn
>Kylo Ren had character
>New Order had a good aesthetic to them
>Returning characters had a relevant part to play instead of being forced cameo's
>The force is unfucked
Shit:
>Mary Sue
>Another Death Star
>CGI Characters didn't feel like they mixed well with practical effect characters and actors
>overly forced diversity in the Empire and Rebel forces (asian woman pilot, asian imperial officers)
>Female characters in non-traditional roles that are forced to be there for no reason (Phasma, Mary Sue)
6/10
+ Poe
- Cheesy & so much sjw box ticking
Prequels were way better
>>63887039
>rehash if episode 4
>insignificant
Kill yourself.
>>63882449
9/10
cool fite seens
bullshot like the stormtrooper with the wired stun stick shit and bb-8 that kind of shit
>Empire 10/10
>ANH 10/10
>ROTJ 7.5/10
>TPM 6/10
>ROTS 5/10
>AOTC 3.5/10
>TFA 2/10
Anyone who is saying eight or more out of ten should be castrated
8.5/10
>Kylo Ren and the dogfights.
>Especially the scene following Finn but also showing Poe ass raping multiple Tie fighters in one pass.
>The music
Everything else is up to speculation or too opinion based. Rey obviously needs more time to develop, but Leia was by far the worst acted character.
>>63886938
>the two actors happen to have great chemistry together
>together for a grand total of 3 minutes
>wooping and yelling about shooting down planes
>great chemistry
You are everything that's wrong with this board.
>>63883078
Upvoted :^))))
>>63882449
9/10 the Star Wars we needed
>>63887094
>Overall enjoyable experience
They should name the next one that:
"Star Wars: The Overall Enjoyable Experience"
>>63882449
>7/10 Solid Movie
+Kylo Ren sharing many similarities with Anakin
-Fucking Ma-REY Sue
+TRAITOR Trooper
-Can't really explain it, but doesn't feel like Star Wars, feels like a Marvel movie
>>63887307
you wouldn't know good chemistry if it walked up to you and started sucking your dik
6/10
Good:
Use of actual practical effects.
Han Solo was great.
Stormtroopers were cool.
Finn was nowhere near as bad.
Bad:
Plot is idiotic and rehashes EPIV.
Star-fucking-killer.
Rey is mary sue.
Finn was a bit too comical.
Kylo removed his mask thus killng his character by having the ugliest face ever.
>>63887220
Did it do it well?faggot
>>63887027
What's even dumber, is that on Star Killer base they had a bigger exhaust pipe leading to the weak spot of the base. Did they not learn anything from the Death Star?
>>63887453
How about you type up a few lines of that "great chemistry"?
Shouldn't be too hard as it was "great".
I'll be waiting.
>>63882449
>7
>acting, practical effects, plot actually made sense, which is a plus
>it was soulless. it baited for spinoffs and side movies. it has "made by a committee of disney execs" all over it. pottery. callbacks. more of a movie aimed at pleasing the marvel crowd than hardcore fans. didn't feel like its own thing at all.
>>63887492
>did it copy paste a previous movie well?
No, and you are a fucking moron that was dropped once too many as a baby.
>>63887427
It lacked world building entirely. That's why it felt like a Marvel movie.
JJ should stick with Star Trek, his directing approach doesn't meld well with Star Wars. I knew what I was walking into, definitely not my favorite movie of the year but it wasn't shit. I already miss clone troopers and droids. Literally like no alien characters besides Chewie and Maz, which were both weak characters, are given any kind of significance.
I whole hardly expect the next movie will be monstrously better as this one was just about as safe and foundation building as you can get.
Literally a "Passing the baton" movie if I ever seen one.
>>63886938
Finn and Poe will keep acting like best buds next movie despite having no further development of their relationship beyond getting involved in plot together.
Screencap this post: a Disney exec has decided they are friends and thus friends they SHALL be.
>>63887277
>TFA worse than the prequels
wow aren't you so bold and daring, true patrician, you just know so much more about Cinema than the pleb masses
6/10
>Good
-Effects, humour was actually well timed.
-New actors were good, I liked them actually.
>Bad
-Kailo Ren is such a faggot. He looks like a high school emo. he sounds gay. I don't like him as a villain
-supreme leader snoke, needs to be fleshed out way more as having a zombie sith lord guy is a cool concept that is sort of taken from KOTOR2.
-Ren's lightsabre looks dumb.
-Somehow the two mains could use a lightsabre from the get go without accidentally cutting their arms and legs off (those things are weightless in the blade, let that sink in).
-The fightscenes were your typical JJ Abrams shittiness. Camera switching and cuts all over the place, making it hard to see what the hell is actually happening. Compare this with Anakin vs Obi Wan in Ep. III, which is probably the best fight in the entire series.
-numerous weird plotholes, biggest one being why Luke's lightsabre that ended up with his severed hand going down a massive tunnel on that planet got recovered.
-Han Solo's death. JUST. why. Was Abrams trying to go for that GoT stuff? It was just bad desu.
Still, I give it a 6/10 because I'm a retard that loves star wars.
Finn will go with Phasma.
Rey will stay pure because she will be a jedi.
>9/10
>Kylo Ren obviously has deep emotional issues to add layers to the character, and will most likely be haunted by killing his father
>neck-snapping action
>>63887698
>6/10
>two positive traits
hahaha, holy shit.
What is wrong with you?
>>63887618
>a rehash cannot be bad
Are we projecting things here?
>>63887698
>Han Solos death being a mystery
I called this months ago. He was either going to retire or die. I wish they kind of just let him retire into the stars, but nope.
After his plane almost crashed back in 2010 he took a new look at life and only came back for this movie for the fans. Plus the mans old. He did this for the fans and wanted out after 1 movie. Definitely wish they just retired him tho.
>>63887804
I think you mean "cannot be good".
You need some sleep.
>>63887635
>Finn and Poe will keep acting like best buds next movie despite having no further development of their relationship beyond getting involved in plot together.
That's literally how friendships develop.
>>63887698
>Compare this with Anakin vs Obi Wan in Ep. III, which is probably the best fight in the entire series.
opinion discarded
