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V > IV > VII > VI > I > III > II
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IV > V > VI = VII > III > I > II
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OP is correct.

/thread
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>>63879130
Almost,

V>IV>VII>VI>III>I>II

You know it to be true.
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>>63879189
>>63879130
Samefag
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>>63879130
>>63879189
Nice samefag
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V = IV > VI > III > VII > I > II
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>>63879130
V > IV > VI > I > III > II >Battle Beyond the Stars>Spaceballs>Starcrash>VII
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>>63879263
This.
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VI > V > IV > III > VII > II > I
Hate me, I liked jedi
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>>63879263
TRAY TOR APPROVES
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>>63879263
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V > IV > VII > VI > III > II = I
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>>63879130
Agree with everything except 1 > III

III, embarrassing thought it may be, is clearly the best in the PT
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>>63879263
would still put VII a bit further down the line but overall ok.

Just to be clear: if i did not like VII at all am i a contrarian hateposter? Cause every conversation i get into it seems i'm trying to be a special snowflake
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>>63879263
This is true
IV: 8/10
V: 9.5/10
VI: 7/10
TPM: 4/10
AOTC: 3/10
ROTS: 7/10
TFA: 6.5/10

TFA is by no means not a bad film but it is just pretty okay
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IV > V > VII > III > VI > II = I

Debate me. Little bear men are as shit as the gungans. Too many people just give them a pass. It's literally meh tier. and I laughed more at 3.
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>>63879130
I can accept this answer, though I think VII > VI
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>>63879130
I agree 100% actually, this is my exact order. But sorry to sound edgy, I would just remove 1>3>2 all together. I genuinely believe they are so bad that they would be at the BOTTOM of a $1 bin in a random VHS store if they didn't have the name Star Wars.

>>63879230
>>63879262
tru tho senpai, stop samefagging
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5>6>3>>>>>>2=7>the rest are just ass

I found 7 to be boring...outside of like two things, the riot trooper and the blaster freeze...we'll see how it holds up to subsequent viewing
>muh new hope
I never liked 4, as a child repeatedly renting the vhs tapes in the 90s nor now as an adult

In terms of how many times I've seen each?
5>6>3>2>4>1>7

Honestly I feel you don't need to watch any outside of empire strikes back anyway
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>>63879507
>>63879189
>>63879130

Fag, samefag
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>>63879449
Depends, did you make your own opinion or are you part of the /tv/ hivemind?
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>>63879449
>ROTS 7/10
Hold me like you did on Naboo
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>>63879449
Corrected:

IV: 8.2/10
V: 8.8/10
VI: 8/10
TPM: 6.5/10
AOTC: 6/10
ROTS: 7.7/10
TFA: 7.5/10
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>>63879528
cringy af senpai
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>>63879509
Why do people try THIS hard to have a special snowflake opinion?
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>>63879529
No. It's from watching the six films before I saw TFA, and then watching TFA one more time.

Sorry, guy.
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>>63879529
is /tv atm saying VII was GOAT overall?
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>>63879389
Its fine if you didnt like it but to say its worse than any of the prequels is a bit ridiculous.
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V > IV > VI > III = IV.2 > I > II
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>>63879470
Nah, can't rate six that low, the whole Jabba sequence is 10/10. I agree the rest of the movie is the weakest in the series, but the first 40 minutes are golden. And the throne room duel is pretty cool.
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http://strawpoll.me/6319517
http://strawpoll.me/6319517
http://strawpoll.me/6319517

snoke is corase and rough and it gets everywhere
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>>63879130
implying VII is diferent than IV
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>>63879560
Sorry that ppl have different opinions, you fucking faggot
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>>63879663
>le glib facsimile man
Have you actually recently watched both IV and VII?
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>>63879179
This is perfect.
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>>63879130

V > III > IV > I > VI > II

And VII doesn't even feel like Star Wars to me. It looks nice but I hate the direction they took the plot. It's not a fault of the movie, I just don't like it. I hate that Disney owns Star Wars. The EU was important to me and it wasn't worth the trade-off.
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IV>V>VI>I>III>II>VII
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4 > 5 > 6 = 7 > 3 > 2 = 1
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5 > 7 > 4=6 > > > > 1 > > > > 3 > > > > > > 2
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>>63879213
thread should have ended here
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>>63879793
I think everyone ITT needs to rewatch I and III. Good lord, III is garbage.
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>>63879696
they are stealing everything from the EU to make them though. Look up Darth Revan
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V > IV > VII > III = VI > I > II
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As far as the film goes, you're either a IV is the best guy or you're a V is the best guy. IV is a better film, but V is a better movie. What do I mean by this? IV is a triumph in terms of execution and concept, the mythic quality of it, the genre mashup and tone and influence. V is more about the story and plot and character development. That's why V is on the IMDB top 10 but IV is on the BFI Sight & Sound top 100 list.

IV is an experiment that worked, V is a continuation of that experiment that shifts it away from the genre concept and more inot concrete character specifics and motivations and feelings. It's less stylized and pulpy.

Kind of like how in Bond you're either a From Russia With Love Guy or you're a Goldfinger guy.
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>>63879819
No it's not
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>>63879179

Exactly my rankings
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>>63879130

V > VII > VI = III > IV >>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> II
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>>63879885
>Hold me like you did on Naboo
>Everything with General Grievous
>I don't care if it's Hayden's acting or the writing, everything involving him is trash
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>>63879854
I'm a VI is the best guy. Your argument just lost all of its weight.
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IV > V > III > VI > VII > II > I
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>People rating TFA as the 2nd best film

Is the series actually this medicore, guys?
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V > IV > VI = VII > III > I >II
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>>63879934
Same senpai, we'd be in the "OHMSS and one of the Dalton Films is the best bond" camp. We are a rare breed
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>>63879130
>I > III
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>>63879969
I think it's because it has so many action scenes and a wide array of characters, it's more immersive than most of the films.
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>>63879130
VII doesn't belong anywhere near OT.

Wherever above, inside or after the prequels its place is, hmm hmm
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>>63879983
I can agree with this. Yeah, yeah this is accurate. Jedi and Force Awakens are equal in quality. Thank God SW is back.
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>>63879315
It's "TR-8R"
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5
7
6
4
FUCK THE PREQUELS
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>>63879130
V > IV > VI > I > VII > III > II

original story>>>>rehash
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>>63880039
>hmm hmm

i dont get this meme
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>>63880072
This guy gets it.
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>>63879130
V > IV > VI >>>>>>> I/III >TFA > II
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The list undeniably starts with V > IV and anyone who claims different is an idiot or troll.

The rest is personal preference though cause they are all pretty shitty.

For me its V > IV >>>>>>> VI > III > VII > II > I
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>>63880356
>what's an opinion
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Star Wars movies:
5>4>3>6>1>2

Not Star Wars movies:
The Force Awakens=Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
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>>63880493
V > IV is not an opinion its a fact. Rest is opinion though.
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>>63880356
4 is boring and I like 6 and 3 more than it
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>>63880626
Nice opinion
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>>63879130
vii is in a class of it's own in the toilet
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>>63879130
No.

IV>V>VI>III>I>II>VII
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>>63879263
correct
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>>63879934
Nobody thinks 6 is the best.

>>63879994
But what I meant by the bond comparision is you either like the more realistic simple bonds like Russia, OHMSS (sort of), Casino Royale or the Dalton films or the most cartoony over the top ones like Goldfinger.
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>>63880704
Do people actually, truly, unironically believe that Force Awakens is worse than the prequels?

That's the most contrarian meme opinion I've ever seen
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In Star Wars Episode IX: The Divided Unite, the Zn'thran Triumverate under the command of Mensar Shiban Varr, invades the Star Wars galaxy. The Imperial Remnant and the New Republic join forces out of desperation to fight this terrifying new menace.
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>>63880821
the force awakens was just different than the prequels. it was bad for entirely different reasons. the prequels was lucas making stupid decisions. the sequel is disney executives mandating a certain number of funny quips and deciding what directional decisions will make the most profit. feels like a fucking marvel movie
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objectively how to rank the star wars films subjectively
1. and 2. is subjectively IV or V but more likely to be V
3. is either IV or VII, but never V, more likely to be VII
4. is VI, this one can not be altered
5,6, and 7. must be the prequels in a subjective order
so
>V>IV=VII>VI>>>III>I>II
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I recently watched them all for the very first time over the course of a few days, and saw VII the other night. Having no bias or pre-concieved notions about what is or isn't "Star Wars", here is how entertaining I found them:

VI > V > III > I > VII > IV > II

I do not understand why everyone hates Return of the Jedi. The set pieces are sweet and the payoff is great. The loathed prequels were also good, except for the "love story" stuff and some bad acting. I found A New Hope pretty dull after having watched the prequels first.

None of the movies seem truly bad.
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V > IV > VI > VII > III > I > II

GOOD:

>Finn, BB-8, Ren, Poe (hope his role becomes larger). Snoke seemed ok as well, same for the new general
>most of the old stuff was introduced really nicely, liked especially the Falcon and C3PO introduction which pretty much nailed it
>the portrayals of Stormtroopers in general. Competent (TRAITOOOR) yet still fun
>the first third of the movie was generally really good, can't think of a single flaw
>the jokes weren't awkward and silly, especially whenever they involved Han
>Han death scene

BAD:

>second to last third lost a lot of steam
>the whole Starkiller thing felt retarded
>I really wish they'd have at least explained how some of the new "old" friends knew Luke, etc., I don't want one movie asking a lot of questions and then another one full of flashbacks
>all space battles in the last third of the movie were shit
>the very last scene felt VERY drawn out. I was spoilered though, so maybe that also killed it a bit
>no memes: Rey felt very shallow, I totally see why people call her a Mary Sue. I know they'll explain how she was able to use the force as well as she did but it still felt hamfisted - I mean, she maybe wonders about what she did in one scene in the whole movie
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>>63880821
Yes, i unironically feel that way.

Star Wars 7 is Rambo
The prequels are Dune

I prefer Dune.
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>>63880901
Putting VII anything above the prequels is at this point bait out of spite.

It was a bad movie, like the prequels. Different reasons, same overall results
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V>IV>III>VI>VII>II>I
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>>63880821
>Do people actually, truly, unironically believe that Force Awakens is worse than the prequels?

I think it's better than ep2 but worse than ep1 and 3
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>>63879130
>V > IV > VII > VI > I > III > II

This is correct.
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Quiality-wise, TFA is a good film: >>63879130

But, somehow, it manages to be an unimpressive Star Wars movie: >>63879263
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>>63880946
>IV second worst
Do you have a mental illness?
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Anyone who posts OT > VII > PT has been brainwashed as fuck by Disney. Goddamn stupid normies.
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>>63880896

>complaining about quips

because the OT didn't do that
because how episode I did it wasn't one of the biggest complaints about it
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>>63881060
Like everybody else anon. Minus some small differencies. It's just those 4 roaring over everybody that TFA was anything good.

Normies instead, likes it because they don't give a shit

>>63881061
basically /threading your own replies. I wonder why you happen to fall in the same category that put VII so high
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>>63880946
Glad I'm not the only one that thinks a new hope is weak as fuck compared to others in the series, I always skip it when I'm on a sw binge
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>>63879931
>>Everything with General Grievous
fuck you
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>>63881100
It was fairly slow unfolding, and the effects weren't as impressive. The entire sequence inside the death star dragged on forever.

I can see why the characters are iconic and certain scenes (Cantina, final Death Star run) were very memorable. But it really was one of my least favorite.
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>>63881026
nope
star wars is about fun, simple space adventures with likeable characters
prequels have none of these
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V>IV=VII>VI>III>>>>>I>>>>>II
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>>63881123
those quips weren't "what does *head nod* mean? what does that mean? stop doing that? what is that?" this movie was fucking brain dead
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>>63879130
Doesn't matter how much we fight each other.

Normies liked this movie, that's it.
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>>63881108
They're really brainwashed, man. They're the type of people who call themselves "le nerds" and say they le hate dumb action movies and love le smart le nerdy movies. Disney gives the retards a dumb mindless action flick like the type they pretend to hate just make it in a le nerd theme and they eat it up.
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>>63881181
>le fun

Back to Reddit with you.
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>>63879130

V > IV > VI > III > VII > II > I
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>>63879130
>V > IV
This is, capital A Autism chiseled in stone; gilded with iron.
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>>63881194

I admit that was stupid, but I cannot really think of any other bad joke. Most of them were pretty good, actually.
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>>63879130
>V > IV > VII > VI > I > III > II
V > IV = VII > VI > I > III > II
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>>63881213
Normies liked TPM at first too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSaaa_OBkzw
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>>63881100
Bruh, 4 is boring as all hell
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V > IV > VII > VI > III > I > II
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>>63881253
they took the thing with finn grabbing her hand too far. one time of her rejecting his hand holding would've been funny, 3 or however many times they did it was beating a dead horse. also the delivery of the pilot being interrogated saying whatever his banter was was bad. it made the situation seem silly, not portrayed him as being rebellious in spite of a dangerous situation
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>>63879263
This is perfect
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>>63879130
>I > III
what the fuck
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i'd like to make a contribution including the latest star wars movie but i haven't seen it yet

anyone got a suggestion where to stream?
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>>63879263
sounds good. Probably would put I above VII and VII and II dead last
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>>63881357
just torrent them. especially now, they're getting dwlded everywhere.
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>>63879130
III > I > II

Other than that, I'm inclined to agree.
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>>63881403
i dont know how to torrent and i am afraid of this shit

no suggestions concerning the usual pleb-style streams?
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>people are starting to forget just how unStarWarslike the prequels felt.

I understand that it was a different era and he wanted to show that beautiful, cleaner universe. I understand, and I'm not a fan. TFA matches the OT's atmosphere--which is really all I wanted.
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>>63881349

I mean does it really matter? All the prequels are shit.
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>>63881557

This. Prequels looked and felt nothing like Star Wars.
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V > IV > VII > III > VI > I > II > Holiday Special
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V>VII>VI>IV>III>II>I
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>>63881554
Don't torrent it. Anything Star Wars will be a rootkit, botnet, zipbomb, or some other shit you don't want on your machine. Unless your security is all squared away and you know what you're doing beyond a causal level, don't even try it.
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>Unironically placing III in front of VI.

I get that ROTJ is the least popular of the OT, but it's obviously better than ROTS. Like, clearly.
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>>63881557
that's the bare minimum that it should have delivered, and indeed it did deliver the absolute bare minimum expectation of 'right tone'
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>>63881611
TFA is being pushed so high just because there are a lot of people that hated prequels SO MUCH that they'd rather favorite a mediocre movie than admit there was at least something "okish" in the prequels.

Remove SW from TFA, you have a shitty, lowtier, space movie.
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5 > 4 > 6 > 7 > 1 > 3 > 2

Objectively the best ranking.
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>>63881557
It's one thing to hate the shitty plot, dialogue, and characters, it's another thing entirely to hate the art direction.

Thinking that the movies should look and feel exactly like the originals instead of trying something new in the spirit of the originals is why TFA ended up being a remake
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>>63881611
>Prequels looked and felt nothing like Star Wars.

Nice meme.

TFA literally is SW in name only, at least the prequels felt like they were even remotely in the same universe.
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>>63881647
just what i thought

so what's the alternative?
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>>63881691
7 is objectively the worst SW movie to date. Even the Ewok movies were better m8.

4> 6> 3> 5> 1> 2> First Ewok movie> Second Ewok movie> The god damn xmas special> 7.
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mediocrity>VI>V>VI>>shit=the rest
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>>63881691
>7 above 3&1

pleb detected
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>>63881219
>>63881108
>these people are serious
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>>63881065
>Quiality-wise, TFA is a good film
Is this a fucking joke or are you just a tasteless cross poster
Holy fuck save us /lit/
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>>63879781
Bretty bad
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>>63879819
I just watched it yesterday in a marathon of all 7. It's the best of the prequels and better than 7. IMO it's exciting and emotional
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>>63881785
7 is objectively better crafted than any of the prequels. The acting is better, the script is better, the cinematography is better. It's still mediocre Marvel tier at best, but as a movie, you bet your ass it beats all the prequels.
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>>63881747

No they didn't at all. How can you live being so fucking wrong? TFA had a clear and obvious progression in terms of technology. It looked exactly like fucking Star Wars, thirty years later.

The prequels look far more technologically advanced than the original trilogy, and in a different universe at that.
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>>63881937
>The acting is better, the script is better, the cinematography is better
No it isn't its just as bad you fucking drone
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Why is V usually considered the best? VI is way better imo
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>>63881922

>Any of the prequels
>Emotional

??????????
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>>63879389
Of course you don't have to like it. It's just that the prequels as movies are so incredibly bad, so that saying that something is worse makes it Adam Sandler-tier, which TFA objectively isn't.
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>>63881937
then call it a mediocre movie, not a good movie. its a 6.5/10
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>>63879819
Sith is awful, but I noticed a trend creeping in that some people start pretending that it's "the only good prequel", like that it's actually a good movie. A very scary prospect.
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>>63881937
What? TFA is like 90% ACTION without any time taken to establish rhyme or reason for it, complete with a terrible villain and an even worse death star knockoff. It's at best the low end of average. At best. At least the prequels were there own stories.
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>>63881970

Yeah. you're right. Dynamic shots are just as bad as two alternating cameras switching between actors while they're walking in a CGI hallway.
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>There are people in this thread who actually believe any of the prequels are above a 5/10
>There are actually people in this thread who think any one of the prequels is better than one of the OT or TFA
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>>63881937
>The acting is better

The only decent actor was Poe, everyone else was massively overacting or just garbage.

>the script is better

The script is derivative, I can make the best script in the universe as long as I just copy existing movies scene for scene. It's borderline plagarism.

>the cinematography is better

JJ's shaky cam is not good cinematography, its designed to appeal to children and people with attention disorders

>but as a movie, you bet your ass it beats all the prequels

It has no vision or heart, the most important element in a fucking starwars film
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>>63879934
I used to think VI was the best as a kid. Not even the fan of the Ewoks (though they didn't bother me), but I loved the entire story around Vader, Luke and the Emperor. And the space battle looked amazing (still does). Once I got older the flaws became more noticeable.
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>>63882011
say this scene isn't emotional

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCuUIkEtJjo
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>>63882033

Kylo Ren very clearly isn't a terrible villain. Christ, I came to /tv/ thinking you guys would know your shit, but you're as retarded about movies as /v/ is about games.
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>>63882015
can we say that the overall situation will settle like this?

>internet minorities fighting over TFA vs Prequels, with someone spiking inside OT

>Normies not giving a shit
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>>63879179
>>63879692
This is the most accurate ranking I've ever seen.

Only true patricians realise IV is superior to V. IV changed cinema, where V, as great as it is, will only ever be a sequel to Star Wars.

III is my least favourite personally because of how dark it gets (protagonist that you've been shilling action figures of now murders children) for a Star Wars movie, but it's more competently made than I or II. I also find II more entertaining than I just because of its trashiness, but I is definitely the better film.
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>>63881951
>The prequels look far more technologically advanced than the original trilogy, and in a different universe at that

Almost like a military dictatorship destroyed the prosperity of a once great republic, it's an allegory for Rome. The new shitheap barely feels like it takes place is space, since there is very little action outside of generic planets.
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>>63881937
>this guy will call the new ghostbusters movie shit even though it will be better just like tfa was better
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>>63882102

Can't say I'm getting teary eyed about CGI stormtroopers in CGI environments attacking characters we never got to know. Are you fucking kidding me with this shit?
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>>63880946
Are you fucking running for Tribune of the Plebs?
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V > IV > VI > VII > III > I > II

People placing VII above any of the original movies are delusional.
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>>63881714
You're right, but Star Wars is a bit of a special case since it's childhood defining for Gen-x and passed down to their 90s kids. A lot of people just want something that makes them feel like Bespin did, and they are absolutely desperate for it.

This is one of the few situations where the fanbase was knowingly screaming for a rehash. The tonally different prequels wer like drinking seawater, so Star Wars fans are perfectly happy to drink out of a toliet now.

I don't want to be too harsh on TFA though, because I was hoping they would play it safe and prove they can serve up something edible. Now that that's out of the way, I'll worry about getting something new and cool in VIII
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>>63882113
>Kylo Ren very clearly isn't a terrible villain

OH IS IT CLEAR? EVERYONE GO HOME, NECKBEARD MCGEE THINKS ITS CLEAR!

He was unintimidating and boring, with a completely miscast actor and cringyworthy dialogue.
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V > IV > VII > VI > I = III > II*
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>>63882159

So why would that military dictatorship ALSO have inferior technology in the future?
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>>63882144
how could you rank a marvel movie better than rotj?
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>>63882113
he is terrible main villain. he would be good as a supporting character
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>>63882213
>The tonally different prequels wer like drinking seawater

The prequels weren't made for adults, they were made for kids.

Anyone who is deeply invested in starwars beyond they're teens is a fucking sperg, they're childrens movies and they did a damn fine job.
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Hold up. People like VII because it feels like "Star Wars"? When I think if Star Wars, I think of IV/VI or I think of III. I'll agree I felt a little out of place, but the rest of the PT very much defined Star Wars and it's universe. TFA barely even feels like the OT
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>>63881166
It was made in 1976 you humongous retard. It literally transformed movies forever.....so much so that Disney just spent $4 billion dollars remaking it.

>tfw The Force Awakens and Tebels animated show are just carbon copies of A New Hope
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>>63882214

It is clear. He is well written and played well. Also he was perfectly cast, since he literally looks like he could be Han Solo's son. Where are you getting your shitty opinions from?
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The original trilogy and TFA are equally good in my book


Can we all agree the phantom menace was the worst of all 7?
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>>63882214
>>63882256
It's okay, everyone has opinions. Yours are just wrong.
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>>63882237
>So why would that military dictatorship ALSO have inferior technology in the future?

"inferior technology", they had star destroyers and a fucking deathstar, we don't even see coruscant until the end of Jedi, and you can hardly divine that from the 15 seconds we see.
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>VII is better/equal to VI

shittiest fucking meme
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>>63882279
Its a meme and influence by marketing. They'll be the first ones to jump on the "actually thinking back its was shit" train once Rogue One or Episode 8 comes out.
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>>63882279

VII feels like it takes place in the same universe that Guardians of the Galaxy takes place in.

It doesn't fell like Star Wars at all, even if it is a better movie than the prequels.
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>>63882113
Kylo Ren could have been decent. He wasn't however. Even his backstory is shit.. how would he have bested luke to take out all the students, What was his motivation for turning to the dark side other than OW THE EDGE? Anakin had a reason, Sheev had a reason, even Maul probably had a reason. Ben though? He was raised by two good parents in a good environment. For what purpose would he need ULTIMATE POWAH that is the dark sides main draw?
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>>63882277

>People using this to excuse how shitty the prequels were.

Toy Story was made for kids, but it's an excellent film. There are plenty of movies that are "for kids" that are excellent films by themselves. Prequels have NO excuse.
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>>63882328
People disagreeing with you aren't trolls; I'm so sorry people not thinking like you hurts you so much.
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>>63882310
>He is well written and played well.

He is poorly written with shitty dialogue, are you serious?

I'll agree Drivers acting was good, but he does not look the part. Of course if he was well written or interesting I wouldn't really give a shit.
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>>63882141
Normies never gives a shit. That's why they are normies.
And for the record, I do think this is the funnies fan-war I've seen in my entire life. Not even PS3 vs 360 fags were as angry.
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>>63882279
I'll also add my ranking as:
V>VI=IV>III>>>VII>I>II
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>>63882325

Wrong, we don't EVER see Coruscant in the OT. Only in the special editions after its appearance was shoehorned in during development of the prequels.
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>>63882385
Heh, it's pretty solid banter i agree. Although i think trekkies a far, FAR more aggressive in their own universe than SW fans
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>>63882364
>There are plenty of movies that are "for kids" that are excellent films by themselves.

George had a vision, he made some mistakes but he was trying to both renew a franchise in bold terms, while at the same time expand the lore and market the movie to appeal heavily to children.

Just because old grognards hated it doesn't mean that he failed, he achieved more in The Phantom Menance with one character than JJ will do in an entire trilogy.
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>>63880110
>rehash

What is the monomythos.
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>>63881287
Nah, you just have a low IQ. It's ok, the world needs laborers. Enjoy the Transformers films
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>>63882355
>He was raised by two good parents in a good environment. For what purpose would he need ULTIMATE POWAH that is the dark sides main draw?

You realize many people in terrorist organizations come from this sort of backgrounds, yes? People from comfortable backgrounds are very suceptible to radicalization because they seek some sort of direction in their lives. It makes PERFECT sense that a spoiled son of two heroes of the Rebellion would want to play the bad guy.
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>>63882016
I never called it a good movie. It's just that the prequels are worse.
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>>63882422
>Only in the special editions after its appearance was shoehorned in during development of the prequels.

The special editions are canon you idiot. And good luck finding the GOUT on DVD before 2008, 99% of people today saw the special editions first, even if a small percentage were lucky enough to own the GOUT on VHS it doesn't change anything.
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>>63879130
II > III > I > VI > IV > VII > VIII

Im 22, I watched the prequel first and when I arrived to the OT, it felt fucking terrible
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>>63882016
>6.5/10

It was not above average, it was maybe a 4/10 because the CGI was better than average, while everything else was generic schlock with starwars window dressings.
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>>63882465
Although I do like ST, I've never invested hard enough in the franchise to really experience the fanboys first hand. But it wouldn't surprise me since I take it that it attracts a bit more hardcore autists than SW.
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>>63882474

George's vision was money. The Phantom Menace was designed from the outset to appeal to as many people as humanly possible, which is why it's such a fucking mess.

George is a businessman and after ESB he has been only concerned with the merchandising. Go read some interviews with Gary Kurtz about the direction that ROTJ took because of George.

You are objectively wrong here.
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>>63882352
wow you hit the nail on the head. i'm not being sarcastic, it feels exactly like GOTG. GOTG was a good movie though, so people aren't saying its bad. it just doesn't feel like SW at all
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>>63882474
>than Disney will do in an entire trilogy.

FTFY

Also: Hi, RPGCODEX
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>>63882508
Even so, whats the potential lure for him? Power? He was on his way to having that already by training with Luke. There should be some logical reason why he gies evil, and there just isn't. Its beyond forced. Why would you defect to a dark shady motherfucker like not plagueis over sticking with your family?
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>>63882523
>putting TFA anywhere near OT

good memed my friend XD
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>>63882543

>Doesn't know about Harmy's Despecialized.
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>>63882604
>George's vision was money.

And Disney's isn't?

That's why this movie was so braindead, gotta appeal to cancerous fanbases AND the idiot masses.
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>>63882277
This is all just my opinion, so feel free to discard it.

I can't argue about how good the prequels were as children's films, because I honestly haven't looked at it from that angle. However, I was 90s kid, and I still knew something was wrong with Phantom Menace. You could put Empire Strikes Back, Jedi, or New Hope into your VCR in any order and it was fine. But that Phantom Menace tape had a world that seemed significantly smaller than the other three despite all the new environments.
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>>63880704
christ man are you seriously fucking retarded? were you raised on the prequels and you have some kind of emotional attachment?
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>>63882646
>He was on his way to having that already by training with Luke.

No, he wasn't. The Light side is all about restraint, which Kylo clearly doesn't have. Kylo probably wanted to abuse or show off his power, which led him to the Dark Side.
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>>63882646
>and there just isn't
And how do you know?
They never ever spoke in the film as to why Ben went Ren. It will most definitely be explained later, though. So hold on to you're anus and stop being a faggot.
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>>63882604
>George's vision was money.

At least Lucas never wanted to release a movie every fucking year.
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>>63882551
I don't believe that anyone could think II was the best, much less top 3
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>>63882656
>Doesn't know about Harmy's Despecialized.

And when did that come out dipshit?

Because you sound fucking stupid right now.
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I'm conflicted about III in relation to VI

VI is definitely a more competently made film but III is way more entertaining

I'm not sure if that makes it better on the whole though

Overall I'd probably say

IV>V>VII>VI=III>>>>>>>>I>>>>>II
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>>63882654
If it's an exact replica of ANH, wouldn't it make sense to be placed there?
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>>63882666
>666
>confirmed to argue with literal satan

But it's fucking better to cater to faggy cancerous fanbases than to only cater to the idiot masses for the purpose of funny looking toys.
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>bad things about VII
>crtl+f phasma
>no results
what the shit
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>>63882861
>If it's an exact replica of ANH, wouldn't it make sense to be placed there?

Because it has no heart and a shitty mary sue lead character.
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>>63882646
I'm assuming they will go into greater detail about both Kylo Ren and Rey's background in the sequels.

But who knows.
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>>63881766
I don't know.

I'm just not going to bother with pirating this. I consider myself an above average PC user, but you never want to be the low hanging fruit.
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>>63882861
no, because just being a replica makes it an inferior, unoriginal, movie from the start.

and then you add the rest of the shit, and it goes down and down and down.
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>>63882899
>than to only cater to the idiot masses for the purpose of funny looking toys

At least he made a coherent film that had a modicum of dignity.

Pandering is always the start of a death spiral. Search your feelings, you know this to be true.
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>>63882646
he listened to linkin park too much
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>>63882899

Except this one caters to both sides of the shit pile, to say nothing of the fact that now they'll be doing the full Marvel treatment of putting out more boring movies every year to try to recoup money on what they spent to own the franchise.

Fuck Disney. I wonder how people are going to defend "Star Wars Episode IX: Parts I and II."
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>>63883046
>Implying it will be Parts I and II

It will be Episode IX and Episode X.
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TFA is Fallout 3 of Star Wars.

>Muh Atmosphere
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>>63883046
they wouldn't do that, it would ruin the rhyme
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>>63883143
you're right they gonna do it till VIII, then call it off and patch things up in StarWars the Twilight tvseries instead of doing IX.

20 Seasons
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>>63883142
TPM is Fallout 3 of Star Wars.
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>>63883142
TFA is the New Vegas of Star Wars. Episode I is Fallout 3 and Episode II is Fallout BoS for PS2.
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>>63882861
Does that mean I should rank spike lees oldboy with the korean version?
How about total recall and the thing too?
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IV > V > VI > VII >>> III > I > II

TFA was way better than any of the prequels by a considerable margin, thought it loses points for being so similar to ANH. It's really close to RotJ but the latter wins out just by a bit, if only because of the Luke/Vader/Sheev plot.
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>>63879130
Swap III and II and it's perfect. Good job OP.
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Why is everyone gotta be hating on Episode 6 so much? Don't you remember it had the best lightsaber duel and ending of ANY of the Star Wars films?

https://youtu.be/_RFYoZ7H67A?t=2m4s
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>>63883302
I liked TFA. But it's really not as good in relation to the franchise as NV.
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>>63883234
TPM is Fallout 2. Ruined consistency and style, but bigger and funnier.

TFA has literally nothing that made OT great aside form visual style.
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>>63882187
Seconded.
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>>63883552
>TPM is Fallout 2
How deluded a person can be?
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>>63883871
TPM has adventures, variety and memorable moments.

TFA has TRAITOR, i guess?
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>>63883552
>TPM is Fallout 2
Nah, is Fallout Tactics.
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>>63879263
Fucking this. At least III had some impressive moments despite the really bad parts, VII was just so unimaginative.
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>>63884299
but 7 had a strong female protagonist and actors of color
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>>63879624
>The Force Awakens
>Second place
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V > IV > VII > VI = III > I > II

RotS eesa bombad underated
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So Episode 9 is going to end with the Resistance and the First Order joining forces to fight a new more dangerous threat to the Galaxy right?

The Yuuzhan Vong
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>>63880821
I do, The prequels were bad but at least they had the balls to do something different.
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GOD TIER

5
4

Great tier

6

Good tier

3
7

Ok tier

1
2
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>>63884589
change the labels all down 1 notch and you're right
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>>63884589
>>63879263
Correct posts
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>>63884648
this desu senpai
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>>63884465
>The Yuuzhan Vong

My body is ready.
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>>63879130

V > VII = IV > III = VI > I > II
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>>63879130

V > V > VII > VI > III > I > II
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>>63882646
>2646▶>>63882720 >>63882765 >>63882932 >>63883010
>>>63882508
I literally thought it was because following the light side would restrain his path.

He thought that Anakin was weak because of his sentiment and wanted to be more like Vader, who in being guided by the Dark side, shows more power than a Jedi could ever have had?

Although seems like he forgot the part where Luke basically bests both of them ideologically.
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>>63879263
>III in front of anything but II and I
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III > IV > V > VI >VII > I > II
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>>63884388
Seeing as a new film came out and it wasn't completely dogshit people will assume it's the best.
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>>63879994
The problem with that is OHMSS is great and VI is only okay.
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Can you fuckers use actual numbers...
I can't read this roman numeral shit
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>>63879213
Objectively correct
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