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I think I can handle myself!
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STRONK
WOMAN
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NEEDS
NO
MAN
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>I can do anything because reasons!
>B-BUT MY FAMILY!!!!

All of her actions explained in two sentneces
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>nobody noticed this death flag for Han
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This actually wouldn't be a bad moment, except she doesn't know how to use a blaster. Han's response makes no sense.
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>she forgets the safety later on
wow
much struggle
very nuance
wow
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>>63878564
it was literally there just to say "Hey, This ain't your grandpas Star Wars! Women can defend themselves now, I mean c'mon, it's 2015!"

As if Leia wasn't doing anything herself despite. The "Princess" part was just pointless when she was neck deep in the same shit as her Rebel peers.
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>when rey knows more about piloting the falcon than han

threw up in my seat a little bit
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>>63878620
>it was literally there just to say "Hey, This ain't your grandpas Star Wars! Women can defend themselves now, I mean c'mon, it's 2015!"

If anything I think it's the opposite, because it shows some weakness for Rey. She can beat people up with a stick, but she has no idea how to use a gun. Which makes sense.

It's Han's line that makes no sense. Sure, she can handle herself, yes it's a good idea to give her your spare weapon as a last resort, but chances are she'll get wrecked in a gunfight.
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>>63878490
>>63878507

If the filmmakers are smart, then they'll have her exhibit some weakness/encounter some adversity in the next movies.

I know everything is about muh equality nowadays but you don't need to achieve that in a story by making your hero/heroine some completely precious demigod. That's just demographic appeasement in lieu of a compelling story.
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>>63878490
In her life time weren't jedis like a myth? How is she so skilled with a lightsaber & force persuasion?
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>>63878515
>nobody noticed something that is not there
wow, unexpected
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>>63878666
Why wouldn't a woman know more about how to drive than a man, shitlord?
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>>63878490
>I think I can finger myself

Can't believe she said that.
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>>63879375
It's not about she knows more about piloting. It's that she knows more than a captain about piloting a ship that has been his for a long time
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>>63878738
That's because you are retarded and don't understand anything.

She refuses a gun, a classic phallic symbol of the patryarchy given to her by a man, because she doesn't need her. She is empowered by her own strenght and knowledge.

You are too stupid to understand anything unless it's explained to you by the movie, try bringing some critical thinking sometimes.
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>>63879491
Jesus Christ, this is bait right?
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>>63878490

I haven't seen the movie, wasn't planning to, but certain factors are conspiring to make me see it. Is she terrible? I mean, does she spend the entire movie spouting feminist memes?
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>>63879541
yeah but it's pretty good

without the misspellings you would think it's real. He had to leave them in so we know it's satire.
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>>63879547
No, she does not
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>>63879547
Not really but Boyga keeps trying to handhold-rape her and she keeps yelling at him "Stop taking my hand, shitlord".
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She literally showed zero emotion throughout the movie.
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Why is her teeth and complexion so perfect after living so many years on a desert planet selling junk and eating trash?
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>>63879491
Sorry. For a moment I thought she had a weakness that made her an interesting character. Little did I know it was secretly a strength, proving her to be the most three-dimensional, strongest character of our generation.
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>>63879541
Your just afraid of strongk women, shitlord.
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>>63879547
She isn't bad but she is definitely a mary sue. I liked her before she started using the force.

Being able to fight and a really good engineer is okay.

When they made her the force incarnate in literally hours was really offputting. I can't see how anyone can defend it.
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>>63879597
I'm new to the board and still figuring out the shitposting here
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>>63878490

Han's response to that was fucking perfect though, because it also illustrates that Rey's major flaw is that she's independent to a fault and needs to learn some new skills to survive outside of the context that she's used to (scavenging on a desert world)
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>>63879547
No, but her character is the boring, do-anything action girl we've seen a million times before. Frankly, YAshit like Katniss from the Hunger Games has more nuance than Rey.

I was surprised because Boyega doesn't come across as diversity bait in the movie, just another dude.
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>Han doesn't care when he sees Rey
>breaks down when he sees Kylo

What a douchebag uncle
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>>63878564

No, but he knows that she can learn and will be able to handle herself in a firefight without freezing

>>63879616

No joke, the perfect white teeth were a major point of breaking suspension of disbelief for me.
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>>63879547
It's not a feminist thing, just a Mary Sue thing. She starts out solid enough, so it's a shame.
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>>63879627
Interesting female charcaters are for the patriarchy. No way a woman should ever be shown with faults or weakness.
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>>63879616
Have you ever seen a dog?

Those fuckers have perfect teeth.
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>>63878666
Yeah... That really pissed me off actually.
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>>63879491
>long, erect staff
>not phallic
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http://strawpoll.me/6319517

http://strawpoll.me/6319517

http://strawpoll.me/6319517
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>>63879708
>No, but he knows that she can learn and will be able to handle herself in a firefight without freezing

That's true. And again, it makes sense, "Have this as a last resort."

What would have been neat was if Han or Finn trained her on the Millennium Falcon. Ideally Finn, since he's an ex-Stormtrooper and there was a line about him only knowing blasters earlier. Just some basic target practice, she's not great but she's learning.
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>>63879678
It's almost like your being indoctrinated my 4chan and believing shit that isn't there because 4chan said it would be there
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>I'll never get to handle Rey on those cold desert nights.

Why even live?
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>>63879792
It's almost like your being indoctrinated my hype and believing shit that isn't there because fangays said it would be there
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>>63879856
you'll get to fap to her and Fin having sex in movie IX
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>>63878490
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>>63879884
And who ended up being right? My side? Well there we go.
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>>63879749
No they don't hence why they have dog biscuts which clean teeth.
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>>63879856
>>63879907
>>63879933
She is going to end up a lesbian because stronk wimmin need no man but need other stronk wimmin.
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>>63879960
Maybe Porshonz had those.
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>>63878490
Pshhhhh, for real? I can handle myself.
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>>63878490

looks like james franco
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>>63879996
as long as Finn x Poe comes true I don't care
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>>63878490
She is a Mary Sue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpS6TlqgLIQ

Always beats everyone, always has a solution, always finds a way out.

The only time she gets into trouble is when she is kidnapped by kylo ren, but then Defeats him using her never before used force powers and escapes all on her own.
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>>63880000
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>>63879792
>he hasn't seen forced diversity in movies
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>>63880100
Sup Max!
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Finn
>I'm a pussy Stormtrooper garbage man. On my first combat assignment I saw my friend die in my arms and completely freaked out. I freed a vital prisoner and hijacked a TIE fighter to escape the Order. Now that I know what freedom feels like, I'm more driven to overcome my personal flaws and improve myself.

Poe
>I'm one-third Han Solo, one-third Wedge Antilles, and one-third Memelord. I'm the ace pilot the Rebel Alliance--I mean, the Resistance--needs.

Ren
>I'm obsessed with being a badass ancient Sith Lord but my parents raised me with this pesky conscience. I wear a dehumanizing mask and pray to Darth Vader every night so I can rid myself of positive feelings and become a true piece of shit. I'm too insecure and chaotic to be a fearful tyrant; everyone is afraid of me but secretly has no respect for me.

Rey
>I'm an inspiring role model for girls! Look at how capable I am!
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>>63878582
>doge meme
i want reddit to get le fuck out
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>>63880239
>implying you need to be a chef to know the food is bad.
If anything him making shit movies should make him an authority on them.
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>pre 90's movie
>Thanks, I appreciate the help.

>modern 2015 movie
>I'm a stronk womyn, I think I can handle myself!!

What happened to western civilization?
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>>63880413
>Rey
>I was abandoned by my parents on a deserted planet and sold into slavery. I learned how to fend for myself but tend to be independent to a fault and don't easily ask for help when I need it. I have skills that help me survive in that context of being a scavenger, but need to learn new ones to achieve my full potential in the larger galaxy, but have difficulty leaving behind what I'm used to in order to move forward.
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>>63880530
>independent to a fault
This is like something you list as your "flaw" in a job interview, like being too nice or never knowing when to stop working.

>need to learn new ones
You mean like Jedi mind control or how to wield a lightsaber? Oh wait.
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>>63878666
I thought the point of that interaction was that Han hadn't even seen the Falcon in like two decades. Him finishing Rey's sentences was supposed to show how he still remembers everything, he just needs a few reminders at first. I still don't like Rey's hypercompetence, but I thought it was a charming scene for Han.
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>>63878490
Was there even a single kiss in this movie?
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>>63878582
holy shit go drink some bleach you unfunny fuck
the reddit invasion is real
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She's the self insert for the womynfolk, right?
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>>63880692
flinn and poe and kylo and darth vader's ghost
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>>63880646

It isn't until she's forced to make use of her Force abilities to save her own life that she accepts it though.
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>>63880692
Rey kissed Dindu Nuffin on the foreskinhead
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>>63880527
I think it's partly progressivism and partly the fact that modern action movies can't go 5 minutes without some kind of genre-savvy ribbing.

We knew it would be that sort of movie from Poe's quip to Ren in the opening scene.
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>>63880527
Feminism, gays, multiculturalism, socialism, and a political corruption and lobbying epidemic.
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>people saying that Hans line makes no sense.

Y'all realize that he wasn't agreeing with her right? He's saying "Yea I know you /think/ you can handle yourself, but you can't. So here's a blaster."
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>>63881338
Him saying "I know you can handle yourself, that's why I'm giving you this", is a pandering line. How can she handle herself with a stick vs laser guns?
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>>63881338
>people this stupid try to correct others
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>>63879649
>shitlord

A SHIT LORD?!
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>>63879491
>"Everything is a penis! All human behaviour explained." -Freud
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>>63879610
It's hilarious because it's so hamfisted, and yet so quaint. I could see this having been "progressive" in the 60's or something. But now it just comes off as patronizing. The exact opposite it's trying to be.

It felt so much more natural with Leia.
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Which old hag redhead actress will be her mom?
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Says the girl who had to learn to fight using a stick because she was tired of getting her rations stolen, if not raped also.
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>>63883075
implying luke marrying a redhead is canon
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>>63879933
How come she had boobs in the movie if she is that flat? The fck.
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>>63883171
They already recycled EU's plot with Kylo being Jacen
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>>63880774
a peck on his forehead?
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>>63878744
Why is it demographic appeasement when women do it?
Male protagonists that do no wrong is still a thing and has been around since film itself.

It's just bad/lazy writing that's all.
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>>63883288
yeah well they should have just had han and leia be childless I guess?
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>>63883288

Not to mention that the Starkiller base has some similarities to the Star Force from KOTOR.

>>63879610

She had very good reasons for that, the handholding prevents her from moving her upper-body to counterbalance sharp turns and they're running, and also forces her to run very close to his side which raises the risk of her tripping over his feet or running into each other.

Both of them function a lot more effectively when he lets her do what she needs to do.
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So how will Luke explain to his daughter on why he dumped her in another Tatooine?
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>>63883443
"It happened to me, and my father, it had to happen to you too."
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>>63883428
>Not to mention that the Starkiller base has some similarities to the Star Force from KOTOR.

like what?
Starkiller base in just a bigger Death Star.

The Star Forge in KOTOR cant destroy planet, it can make armies under minutes and itself is hardly breachable with very heavy defense.

As in you couldnt destroy/defeat it with simple shit like they did against Death Star or Starkiller base.
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>>63883443
Hide her from Ben, because she seemed force retarded as a child

"Late bloomer"
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ITT
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>>63879375
sjw spotted
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>>63880443
rotfl
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>>63883443
"If we had stayed together, we'd both be dead. The Sith were not eliminated from the galaxy. When we are together they can sense our presence and location. They are already on their way here now. You wanted to know what life would have been like if we had been together. You are about to find out."

Brickbro will get the dialog tighter
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>>63879792
Fuck off shill
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>>63884703
>The Sith were not eliminated from the galaxy

There isnt any Sith left.

Only people on the dark side and the first order.
There is no Sith.
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>>63884347

It does use a sun to power itself though and is portrayed as an unstoppable engine or war.
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>>63884513
take that ass back to the barn
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>>63885437
>an unstoppable engine or war

It couldnt stop 8 or how many X-Wings and 3 Humans + a wookie.

vs

The whole Republic fleet was about to be destroyed if Revan doesnt stop it from the inside.
They were able to get in like 2 ships, 3 at best and thats with people requiring to sacrifice themselves.
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So, it's blatantly fucking obvious Rey is a Skywalker. Is she Leia's kid, or Luke's kid? They very overtly telegraphed her being Han/Leia's daughter, but then didn't reveal it, which makes me think it was a false flag, but there's no way she isn't a Skywalker.
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>>63879616
How could she have such nice teeth with that british accent? That's what threw me off
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>character from original films acts like a dick to everyone when he first meets them

>instantly likes and is impressed by new character in the remake/reboot/sequel. Even offers them a job.

totally not a mary sue guys
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I BYPASSED THE COMPRESSOR!
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>>63885816
She is Luke and Leia's kid.
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YOU
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>>63885816
Luke's daughter

If she were related to Han and Leia they wouldn't throw her in Jakku and Han would go full daddy on her just like he did with Kylo
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JUST
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KNOW
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>>63878744
She will have a weakness for BBC, I'd guess.
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You realize the real problem with all of this is that they have effectively written themselves into a corner?

Of the three interesting protagonists established in the first film, one is dead, another one is in a coma (which means he'll be out of action for at least part of the second film) and one is basically Wedge Antilles (so in other words little screen time by design). So now we're down to old Luke and an empty husk of a main character for the sequel.
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>>63878511
>B-BUT MY FAMILY

Just wait, that 'flaw' will be turned into a reveal where she was hidden away because she is just so powerful and strong
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>>63883209
She stuffed her shirt with portions.
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>>63886765
This. It's all fucked. Nothing good can be made with what they have.
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>>63878507
>yfw this is one of the reasons she goes dark side

>She gets annoyed at Luke telling her how to do things and that she already knows everything and needs no master.
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>>63886765

What?

Finn will be all right in EP8.
They have bacta tanks and shit i assume.

Or even better, kolto.
Oh wait...
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>>63887459
P O T T E R Y
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>>63887459
IT RHYMES LIKE BOYEGAS' RAPPING
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>>63878666

She knew more about Falcon maintenence, not piloting. Why? Because she DID THE MAINTENANCE to try to repair it in that junkyard.
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>>63887587
Would have been nice if they showed us this.

Because the movie makes it seem like they happened upon it by luck, and its luck that no one else went to it, and that its able to take off
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>>63887459
>Luke: Rey you must complete the training
>Rey: I can't keep the vision out of my head their my friends and I need to help them
>Luke: You must not go!
>Rey: But Finn and Poe will die if I don't
>Han: You don't know that, even Luke cannot see their fate
>Rey: But I can help them..I feel the force
>Han: But you cannot control it, this is a dangerous time for you..when you will be tempted by the dark side of the force
>Luke: Listen to Han Rey, remember your failure in the caves
>Rey: But I've learned so much since then, Master Luke I promise to return, and finish what I've begun you have my word
>Han: It is you and your abilites that Snoke wants that is why your friends are made to suffer
>Rey: That's why I have to go
>Han: Rey I don't want to lose you to Snoke they way I lost Ben
>Rey: You won't
>Luke: Only a fully trained Jedi can hope to conquer Ben and Snoke, if you chose the quick and easy path the way Ben took, you will become an agent of evil.
>Han: Patience
>Rey: And sacrifice Finn and Poe!
>Luke: If you honor what they fight for...yes
>Han: If you choose to face Ben you will do it alone, I cannot interfere
>Rey: I understand, R2 fire up the converters.
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>>63878490
Sums up the whole movie.
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>>63888308
>rank of files soldiers

lmao who cares
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>>63887587

Also does anyone else remember what a piece of shit the Falcon was in ESB?

It's cause Han didn't know how to fix it.
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>>63887481

That's what I'm getting at. There will have to a whole story arc now in the second film involving him both waking up from his coma and recovering from his wounds.
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>>63886765
Which one is dead?
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>>63879652
"Mary sue" only means "competent female"
The movie is amazing and all of you are just being contrarians as usual. God forbid there is a positive role model for girls out there, we can't have that, oh fuck no!
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>>63878490

Why did Rey do the Costanza face?
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>>63880413
Tbh I can't tell if I like ren or hate him

His meme potential is incredible however
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>>63889604
Lol
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>>63889604
>mary sue
>gendered descriptor

Y-you're right. mff. any female with too many positive traits (so that one might see her as equal to men) is a "mary sue". Explain this MRAtards.
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>>63886265
Is this real? Even by the end of ANH Han had an arc.
Han also knows she's Luke's kid.
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>>63889604
gonna have to save this bait for later

thanks!
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>>63890578
/tv/fags will fall for this clumsy false-flagging
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I can just imagine a fat hambeast bulldyke SJW with granny glasses and dyed green hair sighing at this line and tearing up from joy innatheatre

JooJoo knows how to pander to cultural marxists
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>>63889604
She's an arrogant ass.

>I'm a great pilot
>while she makes falcon do More damage to the village than the empire

>I can handle myself
>can't figure out the safety on the blaster


Then staring at Luke for 2 years
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>>63878490
She looks like a boy.
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>>63884513
her teeth are brighter than my future
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>>63887828
Not their fault you are retarded
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