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I am sorry George
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I'm sorry George.

I'm so sorry.

I was ungrateful. I didn't know. I didn't know that you were the last guard before the franchise became a goop of corporate profit and derivate hack directors. I didn't know it was you and Kershner, but not Kasdan who made ESB properly dark.

I am sorry George. I am so sorry.

This must be true regret. This searing pain in my soul. That we pushed you away, and have now truly entered the dark times.

I am sorry.
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>>63828877
This. The prequels were bad movies but at least I left FEELING something. VII was a competent movie with absolutely no soul.
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>>63828877
A father always knows what's best for the child. Even if it's not clear at the time
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>>63828943
competent movie > complete trash
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>people hates the prequels for years
>new star wars movie
>disney play it safe

What did you expected?
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>>63828877
I'm not sorry, the prequels were trash.
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>>63828943
we share the board with scum like this. people who are now actively trying to get some kind of revisionist history appreciation for the fucking prequels.

paint-by-numbers, play-it-safe TFA is immensely superior to the boring dog diarrhea cgi fuckfest of the prequels
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>>63828877

> liking the prequels ever

go to bed George, you raped my fucking childhood away
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>>63828943
>The prequels had soul
>I felt something
The /tv/ butthurt has reached astounding levels
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>>63829039
>>63829112

Let me guess, you guys defend Avatar on this board as well, don't you?
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My GF, who is completely fucking movie illiterate and is only a fan of star wars because her and her neighbor played Lego Star Wars as children, was able to predict pretty much everything that happened. JJ is a hack but will still probably see all the other movies in theaters
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>>63829039
I'd rather have a movie crash and burn in failure than be made for no reason other than profit
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>disliking the prequels
Hello Reddit
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>>63829112
/tv/edditors are in total denial atm
Their only hope was oyebooga they expected him to be terrible but he turned out to be the opposite
This caused most of the autist sperglords to lose their minds
THE DAMAGE CONTROL IS OFF THE CHART
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>the franchise became a goop of corporate profit

this happened in 1977 you newfag
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>>63829221
No because it was redirecting to Rey and Kylo
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>>63828877
Ah, I love the revision of history after this movie came out. Some of you faggots will go back and actually say the prequels were good. Kill yourself desu family
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>>63828877
Lucas was the only thing keeping the franchise from mediocrity
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What a garbage movie with a bunch of garbage fans

You all have down sybdrome. It's like a dr. Who thread but you don't know you are a poor euro cuck.

This is an American reality.
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George Lucas hates the Empire Strikes Back because he didnt direct it and its accepted as the best of them all.
George even went so far as to block the career of Kershner
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You guys know it's true.

Think about it.

How many great and memeworthy moments did III have?
A shit ton.

How many did TFA have?
Uh... yeah.

TFA will vanish into nothingness in your consciousness before long.
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fucking 4chan fucks
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>>63829303

could you repeat that but in English this time, sperglord?
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>>63829191
>my gf
gtfo normie
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>>63829330
b-but...muh TRAIGHTER!!!
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>>63828943
>Feeling something

this is what /tv/ has come to, bunch of nancys 2bh family
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>>63829053

Pretty much, I blame the fucking mainstream fans that jumped on the prequel hate bandwagon and pretty much disregarded any redeeming features the prequels had.

Its not Disney's fault, it is the raging manchilds who are to blame for VII.
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>>63829330

fuck off. the prequels destroyed Darth Vader forever.
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>>63829411
This.
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>>63829411
and tfa destroyed luke already

true luke would never abandon leia and the others in a time like this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feeuoERYOV0
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>>63829411
how exactly?
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Yeah, nah.
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>>63828877
You're such a fuckin contrarian
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>>63828877

>before the franchise became a goop of corporate profit

This is the faggot that changed the planet of the shield bunker in episode VI from kashyk to endor so he could market fucking toys to children.
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strawpoll.me/6306021
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“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”

Is George the hero we all need but don't deserve?
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>>63829411
Lucas wanted to make Star Wars about Anakin Skywalker, it would've been better played if he was a support character up to episode 3 where he turns to the dark side
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>>63829221
>dumb niggers will force themselves to love a crappy movie because one of the stars is a nigger
oh you poor people.
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Is this some kind of fresh meme? The prequels still suck ass, even if you don't like TFA. You don't have to like the prequels more to spite the new movie.
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>>63829330

>tfw you're TFA and don't have the high ground
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>>63829668
thats some next level autism m9
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>>63829411
Not really, his fall into evil was very tragic. I cried when i first watched it. It could've been done better but it wasn't as bad as you make it out to be, you're just jumping on the prequel hate bandwagon.
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>people actually think Lucas isn't a creative genius

Lucas at the very least had a ton of cool ideas and lots of cool shots planned, and moreover, made sure his movies were fun. He should NEVER had been put in charge of writing, directing, AND producing a movie, as he needs people to reel him back and say "that's a stupid idea."

TFA just felt...empty. Boring. Pandering, moreover. We told the producers we didn't want podracing or gladitorial combat arenas or fucking lightsaber motorcycle rides - and they gave it to us.
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>>63829411

How?, he grew up as an edgy idiot who thought he was better than everyone else because of his arrogance then he got owned by his long time friend and master because he thought he was invincible. It took him losing most of his limbs and being completely disfigure to make him in to Darth Vader. It worked perfectly, yes could they have done his character arc better, of course but it worked. Then for the OT we get Anakin as Darth Vader totally being menacing and an actual threat because in the years before the events of IV he trained more and got better.

God, Vader fanboys are the fucking worse. You're the reason the prequels had such a focus on Darth Vader. Look at what happened to Boba too.

>>63829751

This, the fans bitching over the decade forced Disney to play it safe, to give us this rehash of the same ideas and plot points.

It's the fans fault entirely.
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>>63828877
>he knew this was going to happen
>the prequels was his attempt to ruin Star Wars before it became a soulless abortion
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here we fucking go again full circle with the contrarianism
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>>63829411
Luke would had never abandoned his friends in such dark times. It's not in his character.
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>>63829751
>>people actually think Lucas isn't a creative genius
Fucking hypocrites, my man. JJ literally took Lucas' film and added lens flares, explosions, PC propaganda and sucked the soul out of it and he's hailed as a genius.

There's nothing wrong with that, i get that they like dumb mindless action flicks, but it would be nice if they didn't pretend to be "le such a le nerd i love le smart movies, not le dumb mindeless action, I'm a true le hardcore star wars fan". Makes me cringe.
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>>63829748

>I cried when i first watched it.
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Does Lucas even have a role in Lucasfilm still? He needs to have more of an influence on the films. He should continue to be around while he's alive.
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>>63829878

"le ebin nerd culture" is fucking destroying movies. If you don't like something the media/faggot nerd figureheads like shill wheaton like then you get a fucking hate mob on you. Same as hating the prequels, it's like some rule that you have to. People didn't go to watch a good movie, they went to watch Star Wars, didn't give a shit if it was done well or had non-cancer writing, they were going to love it anyway, cos all that matters is posting on their shitty twitter "just saw star wars, was le ebin movie thanks based goy goy jewbrams"
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>>63829872

Possibly one of the dumbest parts of the movie. The guy risked it all 3 times over when things were at their worst, yet one guy turns bad and he disappears to never return, ushering in the return of the Empire? Bullshit.
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Would you listen to George talk about his opinion on TFA and review it for 1 hour?
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>>63829389
>he hasn't experienced that feeling when watching a star wars movie in the theater
i feel sorry for you senpai
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>>63828877
CAMRIP FUCKING WHERE
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>>63830209
>being THIS poor

My sides

Going to see it 2nd time tonight
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>>63828877

Fuck George. He tinkered with the OT. To me that is a far greater sin than the existence of the prequels. Say what you will about Jew Jew, but I know that neither him nor Disney are ever going to go back twenty years later and add a pointless and terrible musical number to TFA.
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>>63830230
It's my intention to be a bad goyim.
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LOL at /tv/ going full contrarion as usual. You goys just hate that the normies love this movie.
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>>63828877

PEOPLE ACTUALLY TALKING POSITIVELY ABOUT THE PREQUELS

/TV/ IS THIS CONTRARIAN

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU PEOPLE
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>>63830317
I liked episode 3 before it was cool to like it, fuck you
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>prequels were better

I should have expected /tv/ to take up this ultra hipster meme, but this has to be one of the most desperate attempts to be contrarian I've seen in recent history.

The Force Awakens has plenty of problems and I would agree easily qualifies as one of the biggest cinematic let downs of the year, but let's not kid ourselves, this is leaps and bounds a far and away superior movie to any of the prequels.
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>>63829249
This
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>contrarian

looks like you under-educated neets learned a new word. only a couple thousand more and you might be employable!
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>>63829316
>George even went so far as to block the career of Kershner

Sure thing buddy.
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>>63830335

hipster pls go
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>>63828943
feeling nauseous isn't good m8
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>>63829112
how is that buying an apple product every 6 months going for ya.
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>>63829392
there were no redeeming features outside of the score

>muh sheev
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>>63829748
Hi George !
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>person A doesn't love something that 50.1% or more of people love
>person B: you typical contrarian, so edgy wow
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>>63829330
The memes in III are catchy because of how completely hamball it is. Yeah, III is a good B movie.
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>>63829330
The /tv/ movie rating scale.
How memeworthy was it.
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>>63830240
baby never grew up
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>>63831008
I don't see /tv/ talking about Seven Samurai all the time

TDKR on the other hand...

See?
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>>63829751
>He should NEVER had been put in charge of writing, directing, AND producing a movie

He produced all the OT movies, you know? Producer is exactly what he should have been, while outsourcing directing and script writing to other people. With PT he tried/has been forced to do everything by himself.

>Lucas at the very least had a ton of cool ideas and lots of cool shots planned, and moreover, made sure his movies were fun.

Yeah, even AotC, the weakest (IMO) of his episodes was a visual feast, with a shit ton of great shots and several fantastic vistas like nothing we've seen before (the chase through Coruscant street traffic, Kamino, the droid factory and the Geonosis arena at the very least).

TFA is choreographed more competently than AotC, no doubt. Fights themselves are the best part. But it is completely bereft of imagination and as the result produces no sense of wonder. Littering the not-Tatooine with the wreckage of galactic war was its sole visually creative decision. After that we get a generic rusty-future starship interiors, a generic forest planet, a generic snow planet with a generic military bunker, and a lot of base interiors more or less copied from Ep.IV. The Starkiller station was a vaste of concept. Why in the fucking they have passed the chance of making the fighting take place alongside the thousand-miles wall cut into the planet, why? Cannot think of any reason save that requiring too much hard work and more imagination than they had.
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>>63829496
That's how I feel. Even though I've heard some half decent arguments, it just doesn't sit right with me.
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>nerds losing their shit because people liked the prequels

kek

Also Clones>Storm troopers. Especially the new ones, they look like they're endorsed by Apple
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prequels were pottery
tfa is popcorn flick
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I wish we'd get an alien main character at some point

Why do they ALL have to be humans.
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>>63831753
Because the designers are absolute shit at creating aliens, all the new ones look like burn victims or something.
At least George was high as fuck when creating the aliens.
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Rey should have been a Togruta girl
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>>63829411
No one can look at this fucker anymore without seeing the whiny Hans "I KILLED THEM" Cristensen underneath the mask and suit.
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>>63829330
That comment is worth...

A quarter-portion.
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>>63828943
what did you expect ? that kike did the same thing with star trek.
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Let's be honest, The Phantom Menace is ten times better than TFA, prequels are massively underrated because of quirky redditors "le prequels are bad mmmkay epic maymay", Lucas is a fantastic director and a real human being, try to watch Red Tails if you want to see a good war movie. Hating on Lucas or prequels is literally reddit-tier
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>>63828877
The irony is that the Force Awakens is made with more passion and love than any Star Wars flick to come out since 1980 and the prequels were actually the soulless cash grab with no story to tell except the one we already knew

but you'll go back and pretend the prequels were truly artistic because you bought into George's bullshit rhetoric about being an auteur when he's really just a businessman
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>>63831889
yeah i miss seeing a bald white guy under there.
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>>63831953
>Let's be honest, The Phantom Menace is ten times better than TFA
I thought you said "honest", not "mentally retarded".
Never change, contrarians.
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>>63831973
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>>63829195
I don't think you assholes have thought this through.

I tried watching the prequels again, and the acting along with those fake green-screen sets is still just absolutely horrible.

This is some denial shit. Pretty stupid, /tv/
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>>63831973
/thread
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>>63832015
wow great pic, did yu find that on lcheezburger memebase?
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>>63832015
Damn, the contrarians are desperate.
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>>63831973
Actually I think the prequels had a good story. It's Lucas that messed up everything and the whole political stuff (which was potentially very interesting) became quickly loud background noise
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>>63831953
red tails was actually pretty good tbhonest familia
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>>63832022
>I tried watching the prequels again, and the acting along with those fake green-screen sets is still just absolutely horrible.

No one with a functioning pair of eyes and a working brain can honestly complain about motherfucking "fake screen sets" in PT of all Star Wars things, given how glaringly fake every set not representing a small room looks in OT, once you watch it in a modern resolution.

And bad acting in prequels is largely a meme. Nine times out of ten when asked to provide examples, people provide examples of good acting that does not fit their preconceived sterotypes.
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>>63832066
>>63832138
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>>63832310
>Still replying with memes
Yousa da butt-hurt here.
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>this is now acceptable quality according to /tv/

am I being memed?
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>>63832379
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Oh I'm so sorry, George. You were, and still are, the best. Please come back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i28UEoLXVFQ
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>>63832422

And? What is not acceptable or even not great are you seeing here? Explain in your own words.
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>>63832422
that control panel part id swear is a cartoon
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>>63832499
That was a great Clone Wars episode.
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>>63832499
it looks like dogshit m8, get your eyes checked
the later episodes of TCW look better
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>>63829249
Technically yes, but there was a lot more creative freedom that went into the originals. It was a somewhat risky project that the studio took on (at a time when big studios were more willing to do that), hence the first movie's relatively low budget.
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>>63828877
I love you George.

I actually never hated on the prequels though so I have nothing to apologize about.
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>>63830366
...is a poor excuse, nigger :^)
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>>63832545
>That was a great Clone Wars episode.

It wasn't. Explain in your own words or fuck off.

>>63832547
>it looks like dogshit m8, get your eyes checked

Expain why, beyond stale ad hominems. In your own words.

>the later episodes of TCW look better

Stating objectively wrong things is not an explanation. More attention to detail went into the fall of the ship's core alone and the dust cloud it raised than into whole episodes of TCW.
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>>63830230
>giving shekels to goldberg
the point is not give any
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>>63832761
>pretending to be revolutionary
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>>63829330
>being meme worthy makes a movie great
>this is how /tv/ thinks
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>>63828877
the only reason i want george back is because he was content to sit on his fat ass drinking coffee and releasing a new special edition cut of the OT every year or two which i could safely ignore

if you actually thought gorge lookas could have done a better job after Red Tails you're kidding yourselves
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>>63832725
the cgi aged like dogshit, what needs to be explained?
the ships just fucking float into the air, there's no engines or anything.
the clones just fucking walk at the enemy while firing blindly, it looks nothing like a real battle should.
nothing about that scene makes any sense.
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>>63832422
What about it?
It looked cool, it was top-tier CGI in 2002 and still holds up today.
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>>63829112
History happens as we live. The prequels directly influenced the way the sequels were made The sequels will give new perspective to the movies which came before. There is no need to be upset.
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honestly hope we get to see the new republic wreck the first order's shit in Ep. VIII

I want more big battles
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>>63830093
Yes.
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>>63829382
But that was a great scene, memester.
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>>63832902
>PS4 remastered version when?
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AAYYY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1zMudXdMkw
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>>63832499
those core ships are some fucking Babylon 5 tier CGI
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>>63833042
this is much better than

>>63832422
its almost embrassing.
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Wait a minute, there are people who actually think the prequels were good movies? Holy shit. The Force Awakens is superior to the prequels in literally every aspect. There are some thing you can criticize if you want, but damn, if you think the prequels were in any way better then there is something seriously wrong with you,
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>>63833350
because the clones act like real soldiers would instead of walking in a line at the enemy
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>>63833350
>13 years worth of technological advance
are you even trying
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>>63828877
>before the franchise became a goop of corporate profit
>before
>before
>before

>be·fore
>bəˈfôr/
>preposition, conjunction, & adverb
>preposition: before; conjunction: before; >adverb: before
>
> 1.
> during the period of time preceding (a particular event, date, or time).
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>>63833435
just compareing shots.
i never even really saw the movie of the 2nd one.
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>>63828943
kek
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TFA is a corporate, soulless piece of shit. I didnt care for any of the characters. Boyega was the best thing in the movie.
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>>63833435
>1999 was 26 years ago
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>>63833572
>TFA is a corporate, soulless piece of shit.
so were the prequels, they were literally made to sell toys, George even said so
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>>63833435
>13 years

what the fuck are you talking about, clones came out in 02, sith in 05
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>>63833572
>Prequels are a corporate, soulless piece of shit. I didnt care for any of the characters. Jar Jar was the best thing in the movies.
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>>63833572
It's funny because I just re-watched ROTS and thought the same thing, but can't think of any character I actually care about.

Maybe Kenobi if I were forced to choose at gunpoint.
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>>63833435
>13 years worth of technological advance

The fuck. Was it even 3 years between the movies? Or did you not watch the first clip at all?
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>>63833626
>not caring about based Sheev
back to reddit
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>>63833611
>>63833619
yes, they were, but this shit is even worse with all the female empowerment and the United Colors of Benetton crap. Horrible movie.
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>>63829112
>people who are now actively trying to get some kind of revisionist history appreciation for the fucking prequels.
Oh come off it. I'm a /m/an and this is L I T E R A L L Y what happens with every Gundam series. When people are watching it, they like it well enough, and then immediately afterwards they hate it with a burning passion, and then when the next series comes out, they find reasons to like the old one and to hate the new one.

The only difference with Star Wars is that the release schedule is extended so much that it's been difficult to tell that this was what was happening. But now we can see.
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>>63830880
>The memes in III are catchy because of how completely hamball it is

oh and the OT wasn't? Dumb cheesy semi philosophical lines was what made the Lucas films great. How many times do you hear people quoting "Do or do not there is no try". It's really cheesy but its a quote everyone keeps repeating. TFA didn't have any memorable quotes besides "Traitor". Shit flinging the phrase "rebel scum" was more memorable.
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>>63833742
456 is empirically less cheesy than 123
by orders of magnitude
I think hollywood thinks people have gone retarded or something
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>>63833741

Yeah this happens with everything ever. Zelda is also a great example, by the time the next Zelda comes out Skyward Sword will be a fucking masterpiece despite all the hate it got for years.
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>>63831931
That's the new may may
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>>63832897
>the cgi aged like dogshit, what needs to be explained?

Why you are memeing, instead of stating why, in your opinion, CGI is dogshit. That's what needs to be explained.

>the ships just fucking float into the air, there's no engines or anything.

Like innumerable SW crafts starting, oh, from Falcon in Ep. IV.

Oh, and if you think that the glowing array on its back is an engine that generates trust, and that, despite no or next to no backwash, somehow allows Falcon to lift vertically from the landing pad, then you're factually wrong.

>the clones just fucking walk at the enemy while firing blindly, it looks nothing like a real battle should.

Oh, we have an expert on the real battles here. Who, despite being such an expert, somehow thinks that all armies, including those just put together by people with no fucking experience of warfare, no tradition of warfare, and after an extended period of next to no warfare, are always perfectly trained in tactics adequate to their weapons or environment. Have you considered that maybe clone waves similar to mindless droid formations serve a narrative point?

>nothing about that scene makes any sense.

The only form of interstellar warfare that makes sense is nuking the enemy from orbit liberally until it surrenders. But that makes for a fucking boring narrative, so few settings have that as a default option.
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Star Wars isn't even Star Wars without George Lucas.

The fact that normies are swallowing this Disney shit is embarrassing as fuck. It's just more EPIC NERD TURN OFF YOUR BRAIN capeshit. Not an ounce of originality, new lore, world-building, creativity, anything...seriously ball-less and pathetic.

How the fuck does Disney consistently brainwash people into liking this garbage? Even critics slurp up this bullshit.
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Also, the prequels aren't that bad. It is a meme to say they are bad, not based in any reality at all.

Even Jar Jar isn't really that bad or annoying...it's just a stupid forced meme with normies.
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>>63833304
>those core ships are some fucking Babylon 5 tier CGI

But that's incorrect, given that no Babylon 5 spaceship had that amount of moving details, much less such a painstakingly rendered destruction with some of those moving details being cut through and falling away.
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>>63828877
This bait is worth...

a quarter portion.
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>>63829751
This. It lacks that essence of a Star Wars film. As a movie, 7 was better than 1 and 2. But as a Star Wars film...I just can't put it above 1 and 2 even if 1 and 2 were bad for Star Wars films. It felt like those uncanny valley Japanese androids.
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>>63829751
Podracing was actually cool though, and gladitorial combat in theory is cool and totally fitting with Star Wars.
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>>63834002

>>nothing about that scene makes any sense.

>The only form of interstellar warfare that makes sense is nuking the enemy from orbit liberally until it surrenders. But that makes for a fucking boring narrative, so few settings have that as a default option.


I don't really care about all that other shit you are arguing about but I saw this on the front page and came here to tell you that you're a retard and probably underage.
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>>63828877
This gives us a huge lesson. Star Wars will never make any one happy no matter what you give to the pisco-fans, they'll always whining about something.
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>>63834231
lmao that image
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>>63834002
go to bed George, your movies are shit
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>>63829895
It's called human emotion... Faggot
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>>63828877
>you were the last guard before the franchise became a goop of corporate profit and derivate hack directors.
Where have you been the last 30 years?
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>>63828943
This. Even at their worst the prequels were more entertaining than JJ's by the numbers nepotism fueled hackjob.
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>>63833042
It's shots like these that made the galaxy feel as big as it did. The camera wasn't zoomed in close enough to lick sweat for 80% of the movie like this new one.
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>>63829330
THAT'S NOT HOW THE FORCE WORKS!
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>>63830880
But it's not a B movie. It's just a very shitty A movie.
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>>63834456
yeah, all the close up shots are what made it feel like an obvious JJ Abrams movie
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>>63829112
but YOU are the scum. Shitty and ambitious is better than 6/10 and forgettable. If plebs like you got your way, most everything would be mediocre and bland.

Also, you're sentiment is literally: reddit
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>>63828877
>I was ungrateful. I didn't know. I didn't know that you were the last guard before the franchise became a goop of corporate profit and derivate hack directors. I didn't know it was you and Kershner, but not Kasdan who made ESB properly dark.
That should be public knowledge by now. That hack is what went wrong with star wars in the first place
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>>63828877
I'm thinking BJ Dart.
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>>63829053
I don't consider giving the franchise to jew jew playing it safe.
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Here's the difference between lucas and jay jay.
The emperor had a goofy name "sheev" but people always called him the emperor or emperor palpatine.
Snoke is literally just called snoke.
Han says
>snoke is just using you
when he should have said
>your leader is just using you
to have the whole dialog not sound like a cringeworthy fanfiction
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>>63830230
>being proud of paying to see some children's movie garbage TWICE

lmao can't make this shit up

Bet your parents are really proud.

"Our boy paid to see Episode VII: Disney Takes Plebs' Money all by hisself!!"
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>>63834666
saying the names as often as possible is good for marketing. pika pika
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>>63828943
>competent movie with absolutely no soul.
Just like Jeremy Clarkson's reviews on Japanese sports cars.
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The prequels were a miserable failure on every level, but at least Lucas tried something new. TFA is just cashing in, with not the least bit of creative spark other than the fact that they try to establish the main villain as a human with weaknesses which alone makes him the only interesting part of the movie.
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>>63830317
>>63830340
If you use the word "contrarian," you're literally an idiot. It's an invented concept by idiots with reddit sensibilities who are too fragile to deal with criticism of mediocre media that has widespread appeal.

It's a troubling manifestation of millennials' mental weakness. Seriously, the only people who would even entertain any "argument" involving the concept of being "contrarian" are weak, lazy idiots who can't deal with criticism substantively.

If it bothers you that much that people criticize mediocre mass-marketed work designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, like Star Wars, Breaking Bad, pop music, etc., you should find a safe bubble and stay there. Or kill yourself.

back to reddit, mouthbreathers.
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>>63834796
What's with the monosyllabic names too? Maz, Hux, Rey, Finn, Poe, Snoke, Ben...the only non-droid name that breaks this trend is "Kylo". Are things being dumbed down this obviously?
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atleast phantom menace had the pod race and the darth maul fight at the end. not to mention added best song in all of star wars Duel of fates
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>>63834869
They didn't try anything new other than deliver a hamfisted opinion about real world events. Lucas thought that people loved Jedi so much he shoved them in as much as he could to the point they lost all mystique. He was driven by money as much as anyone else.
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>>63834927
No different than Ben (Kenobi), Luke, and Han.
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Please /tv/, go back to Bane posting. This thread is painful.
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>>63834927
>Kylo Ren
>Boba Fett
>Darth Vader
>Han Solo
All 3 syllables. What the fuck is your point, Anon?
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>>63835013
But there's Vader, Leia, Palpatine, Yoda, Obi-Wan, Jabba, Chewie/Chewbacca, Greedo...
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>>63835033
>go back to Bane posting
pls no
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>>63835033
I won't rest until at one point every single thread on /tv/ is Star Wars
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>>63828877
George the prequels were shitty and uninteresting. the words they said made no sense and other than the saber scenes, your prequels were trash. Your OT was awesome especially the last part of Jedi.

your prequels were better than the force awakens though George so rejoice, you, although an awful film maker here of late, isn't nearly as bad as jar jar and the house of rats.
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>>63833694
>Trying this hard
I... MUST...HATE...THIS...MOVIE
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>>63828877

Hey OP

Here's why you're a faggot.

Go find a book called Building Empire. It's about the production of ESB

Everything you believe is a lie, and it's hilarious to watch an idiot like you suffer in delusion.
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>>63831753
You mean like grand admiral thrawn from the real episode 7
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>>63834966
>atleast phantom menace had the pod race and the darth maul fight at the end
Wait, are you saying this as a good thing or bas thing?
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>>63829872
>>63829496
Zero originality in thought. Just regurgitating others' arguments.

Fact is, we have no idea what transpired with Luke and Ben and whatever else.
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>>63828943
>I left FEELING something
like nausea or disgust?
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>>63836872
glib facsimile
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>>63836899
>dubs

GLIB FACSIMILE
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>>63836872
glib facsimile
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>>63836872
glib facsimile
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>>63836872
Never in my life. Now go home.
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