Based Max
who?
>>63812061
he plays jay on half in the bag
>>63812079
>>63812079
plays with jays dong
>>63812079
you mean susan?
>Dislike landis because he's an autistic sperg rich-kid
>complains about the studio system, yet agreed to play ball with them with his first film, despite knowing what it entailed.
>"THEY CHANGE THE SCRIPTS, THEY'RE NOT MY FAULT"
>He's right, yet, his bitching just makes him more of a faggot
>Now he outs and says that the character is bad (which she is)
I'm torn honestly, like, he's right about most of the shit he talks about, like let's say 85% of the time, but he's really, really fucking wrong about a lot of other shit.
ehh, I agree with Max "Children Chopper" Landis
>>63812029
Sounds like he's just mad he didn't come up with it.
>it's real
HOLY SHIT OUR GUY MAX BASED AS FUCK JEW JEW ABRAMS ON SUICIDE SQUAD WATCH
>>63812029
>I have an opinion
>Max tweets that he has the same opinion
>Reconsidering my opinion
Fuck this cunt
Hopefully Finn will turn out to be the main character since he's the better actor and more interesting character.
>>63812029
>Max Landis
Literally who?
I assume he's one of the RLM fags therefore his opinion his invalid
>>63812310
Sadly this is true.
Did he actually say that?
>>63812247
>children chopper
To be fair, the sins of the father do not pass on to the son.
Max Landis is a cum-slurping faggot with flaws of his own and should be judged accordingly.
With a tire iron, preferably.
>>63812332
I think he wrote the chronicles of narnia or some shit.
>>63812286
HOL UP
>>63812247
It's almost like he's a flawed human with both shit opinions and good ones. Just like real life.
Just do what people do in real life and call him a faggot because of his haircut.
Did he even watch the movie?
>>63812029
Fuck off Max. Go be queer somewhere else
>>63812029
Max, "Mary Sue" is the most unfunny, embarrassing /a/ meme that has come out of that shithole.
it's time to stop posting
>>63812419
I'd just kick him in his left eye.
>>63812332
If you'd been on /tv/ for more than 5 minutes, you'd know who he was. Pretending not to know doesn't impress anyone.
>>63812466
go get your money back faaaaaag
>>63812419
True professionals don't feel the need to shit on others works. They simply make a quality product and let it speak for itself.
He's an untalented insecure childish fuckhead with no talent who has only gotten anywhere because of his father's good name.
Also Poe is much more of a Mary Sue than Rey.
>>63812433
did you?
The emotional arcs were so weak.
Hers was what? She has to get over the fact that she was abandoned? By how was that shown? She complains maybe twice that she has to get back Jakku, that's it. No real action taken ever. We can't get behind a character like that.
Same for Finn. His was, something about running away from being a hero, but whatever. That guy couldn't stop being a hero from the first second.
Luke was a mary sue, fuck off
>>63812483
>>63812483
No, I genuinely don't know who he is.
Then again, I come to /tv/ for memes and to talk about """"flicks"""" with bros. I don't give a shit about your kinema culture
>>63812471
I don't know, I think Max "Faggot Slenderman" Landis is more appropriate.
>>63812419
Well yeah, people have thoughts and views that will be similar to my own, and other times, not similar to my own.
But he's a human bean with some social views that are WAAAAAAAAAAAY off base (LA artfaggot/writer type)
I will say though, his craft, and the movie industry, he's dead on, but his haircut? what a fucking faggot.
Max "Helicopter Haircut" Landis really needs to stop dressing like a manchild
>>63812546
Luke got trained by Yoda who is probably the strongest Jedi ever. you don't shit know pleb try harder.
>>63812533
Yes, I saw a character that has flaws.
>>63812546
The same Luke who got his ass whooped by Vader in the 2nd movie?
>>63812519
All of what you said is true, but that doesn't prevent him from occasionally saying something true.
>>63812598
And a broken clock is right twice a day but that doesn't mean it's useful.
>>63812578
Max "my dad is a helicopter parent" Landis.
>>63812628
>>Max "my dad is a helicopter parent" Landis.
We need more of these
>>63812546
>Takes Luke 3 movies to finally beat Vader
>Rey beats Kylo literally the first time she picks up a lightsaber
Yep, totally comparable
>>63812550
>come to /tv/ for the memes only
sounds about right for the average /tv/ poster.
>>63812029
the absolute madman
>>63812589
Did vader take a blaster bolt to the leg? Was vader in the middle of an emotional breakdown? Did Luke start fighting Vader fresh after someone else had held him back for minutes? Is there the possibility that Luke had previous training under a Jedi master as a young child that re-emerged as latent duelling mastery?
Ffffffuck off.
>>63812433
Obviously.
>>63812627
It's a nice idiom but people are more complicated than that. It's ok to agree with someone you hate from time to time.
>>63812029
Max Landis complaining about a movie that's successful?
Maybe he'll make a comment about his film would have done better if not for ___ like he always does.
>>63812674
kylo is nowhere near vader yet retard
>>63812650
Max "kill the gook with a CH-47 Chinook" Landis even rhymes!
>>63812746
Explain the mental duel
>>63812770
And the day he says something I agree with I'll admit to it. But so far he's never said anything except verbal diarrhea.
>>63812674
Kylo isn't the Vader of the films.
>>63812798
The what
>>63812674
You may notice that Kylo is fucking weak as fuck.
Dumb fuck.
>>63812587
No, you stupid retard.
>>63812466
>mary sue
>an /a/ meme
end yourself
>>63812029
just fuck off and end it all landis
MAX I KNOW YOU LURK HERE POST ANUS
>>63812674
>Kylo literally got shot by Chewbacca's crossbow shotgun laser thing, got hit by Finn's lightsaber, and it was implied that he hasn't even completed his training yet
>"Muh OT"fags will still ignore this
>>63812801
fine, fine.
>>63812696
>sounds about right for the average /tv/ poster.
and there's nothing you can do about it
>>63812029
Plinkett tearing this movie a new asshole when?
>>63812840
Okay you didn't watch the movie good to know
>>63812546
Luke was far from a Mary Sue
In the first movie he uses the force once, which was to shoot the torpedo. Obi Wan was pretty much there to guide him too. He got lucky his ship didn't blow up because Han was there to save him. Han and Obi Wan mostly protect him throughout the movie
The second movie he gets trained by Yoda in how to use the force. He gets better at it but loses to Vader and gets his one of his hands chopped off
It's not until Return of the Jedi where he's older and more experienced when he starts wipe the floor with everyone, and he still loses to Sheev
Rey meanwhile suddenly knows how the force works, how to wield a lightsaber effectively, how to mindtrick people, and is better at the force than Kylo, who supposedly trained with Luke, because reasons.
>>63812674
Kylo is a fucking edgy teenager, he's the fucking Sith equivalent of Elliot Rodger. He was meant to be beaten easily because he's purposefully a colossal faggot.
>>63812029
It's funny because TFA seems like a script Max Landis would write.
An young person realizes they have great power and struggles with what to do with it.
That's literally all of his films.
>>63812029
but she is super cute, thats fine!
i dont understand this rey = mary sue meme
its blatantly obvious from the first moment you see her on screen that she's got jedi powers, and that shes going to be the luke of the movie.
so, the fact that she develops such powers over the course of the movie is perfectly logical, and makes sense. Kylo in this movie isnt nearly as powerful as Vader (it was portrayed well in the movie, he couldnt control his anger, he had doubts, etc) so the fact that she "won" (after he was wounded, mind you) shouldnt come as a surprise.
If she's a Mary Sue then the entire jedi order is too, with Luke being the ultimate one.
>>63812790
>Max "kill the gook with a CH-47 Chinook" Landis
I'm making a list of these, these are gold, keep em' coming
>>63812790
Max "get to the choppa" Landis.
>>63812310
>>63812338
Hopefully Finn will turn out to be white too and was just wearing a shaved Wookie costume
>>63812897
That explains why he's jealous.
>>63812840
Kylo Ren is a rookie. His whole arc is that he's not fully trained and deeply conflicted. By the end of the movie he is no longer conflicted and Snoke says he will complete his training.
>>63812546
Luke got his shit wrecked numerous times and actually developed as a character after Vader whopped him.
>>63812844
Which is why he toys with Finn until he takes a light hit and then thouroughly shitstomps his ass instantly, an actual weapon-trained fighter from birth.
Rey is probably the worst, most inconsequential, badly acted, boring, stiff, droll character in the franchise yet, aside from Qui Gon.
>>63812978
If Ren was a rookie, Rey was a literal fetus compared to him
>>63812893
Also Luke's use of the force in A New Hope was much more in line with HOW THE FORCE FUCKING WORKS. It was him "giving up" control and letting the force guide him to one (nearly impossible) shot
Rey used the force to give herself a powerup to go chimp out on Ren in a dark jedi style attack, using the same form angry Luke and Palpatine use.
>>63812876
Bunch of lame excuses designed to give Mary Sue an advantage.
God forbid she be challenged in any way.
>>63812029
>first response to the tweet is "how does it feel to be a sexist"
ebin
>>63813022
Yes but Ren was severely injured and emotionally compromised. Rey was not.
>>63812587
Name one
>>63812029
>Implying Anakin wasn't a Marty Stu
>Implying Luke wasn't a Marty Stu
Being a Stu/Sue runs in their family. Just like the Force.
>>63812893
If he didn't lose his shit and start pounding Vader in a rage he probably still would've lost
>>63812910
Luke develops his powers after being tutored by the two last remaining jedi, two of the most powerful of all time, Rey just works out her own shit as she goes along and succeeds the first time always because MARY SUE. She's constantly impressing everyone by being the best at EVERYTHING SHE TRIES, whereas Luke kind of bumbles about most of the time, only becoming an actual badass by the third film he appears in.
>>63813054
Even in the mental duel?
I think not
>>63812885
It ain't gonna get that treatment. It was exactly what most people expected, and what Disney specifically wanted, from JJ Abrams. Good. Not great. Certainly not bad. On the high side of mediocre. A safe bet.
B-BUT SHE'S THE DAUGHTER OF LUKE, THE BESTEST JEDI EVER, SO THAT MEANS SHE'S INHERENTLY ABOVE EVERYONE ELSE, EVEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TRAINING THEIR WHOLE LIVES
She should have fucking lost that fight, it's as simple as that.
>>63813098
That was to show that she's stronger in the force than he is. Which definitely helped her win at the end when she started using it.
>>63812746
Vader was a disabled dude on life support
In terms of skill level:
Kylo = Anakin in AotC
Rey = Somewhere between Luke in ANH and Luke in ESB, depending on what we learn about her background on VIII and IX.
Coupling that with Kylo's injuries and his emotional stability, as well as the fact of the terrain falling apart, I'd say it was a fair matchup and a reasonable outcome that Rey "won", or at least didn't lose. Also Finn softened Kylo up.
>>63813038
No, she let the Force guide her body. She was literally giving up control to the Force.
How stupid do you have to be to not understand that?
>>63813132
Except she had no training and didn't know the force existed an hour ago.
>>63813166
The weird shit is how both she and Finn know how to sword fight, different stances and parries etc, just instinctively.
You need to be taught that shit.
>>63812801
If you think (and you'd be right if you do) Rey's a Mary Sue, then you happen to agree with Max Landis in one instance. That's a fact.
>>63812519
Poe is a very talented pilot, who is self assured and cocky. Rey is a talented pilot, engineer, force user and CQC fighter with virtually no character flaws. Poe loses a dogfight with some TIE fighters in the second scene of the movie and exits the movie until the final battle. Rey loses one fight over the course of the whole movie, whilst continuously fucking everyone up and solving problems.
Poe < Rey = Mary sue
>>63813171
She clearly wasn't because what she did was slip into Dark Side style attacking. The Force (ie the light side) would guide her into something defensive, not chimping out ATTACK thrusts.
>>63812928
Oh, you mean Max "son of the flying guillotine" Landis?
>>63812674
Vader is one of the greatest lightsaber duelists ever and was very powerful despite having his connection to the force nearly cut off.
Kylo is just his shitty grandson who wants to be edgy.
>>63813217
Finn knew how to fight because he was a trained soldier. Notice how there was a stormtrooper with melee weapon, Finn probably trained a little in that area as well.
As for Rey, she is a badly written character with OP traits. Starts off as an independent girl who likes to help, ends off as an independent girl who likes to help.
>>63812844
>Weak as fuck
>Manages to freeze a laser blast with the force; no one, not even Vader does this. Best Vader can do is block with his hands
>Can use the Force to interrogate motherfuckers; again, Vader needed a medic droid and some truth serum shit.
>Takes a Bowcaster shot to the abdomen; still standing and manages to fight not one but two foes, after carefully establishing the Bowcaster as an OP weapon.
>Not even dead after getting wrecked by the Mary Sue
Not to mention Snoke implies his training was not even complete.
>>63813223
Also an expert with a blaster first time she gets one
>>63813253
Max "kid clipper Jr." Landis
>>63812519
>Also Poe is much more of a Mary Sue than Rey.
No, you are a fucking idiot. Poe is just a competent character. That's not the same as being a Mary Sue. He's introduced as being the Resistance's top pilot,and is kind of like a celebrity who just turns up as a side character, that's nothing like a Mary Sue protag like Rey.
The moment someone is good at something it doesn't make them a fucking Mary Sue.
>>63813276
A badly written, shallow main character who is awesome at everything and everyone automatically loves is the definition of a Mary Sue
>>63813317
Max "Dad wanted me to get a head" Landis.
>website name is The Mary Sue
>they're praising a Mary Sue
http://www.themarysue.com/spoiler-free-review-star-wars-the-force-awakens-totally-deserves-the-hype/
>>63813249
I didn't say that it was the Light side, now did I?
She was clearly about to kill Kylo Ren out of anger before the terrain change prevented it. That's a bridge that Luke never crossed, even when he was tempted.
So, no, Rey is not perfect. She has less control over her emotions than Luke ever did.
>>63813190
Mental Duel. You have no idea how the mechanics of a mental duel work.
>>63813276
Knowing how to fight with one weapon doesn't teach you how to fight with completely different ones. Both of them didn't just swing wildly, they used multiple stances, guards and parries etc.
>>63812546
> Takes two movies to grab lightsaber
> takes three movies to jedi mindtrick
> trained by the most powerful jedi in history
> Got wrecked by Sheev
> Got wrecked by Vader because of his impatience
Please explain to me how she's more of a Mary Sue than LukeYou can't.
>>63813372
Max "Nebrotism" Landis
>>63813386
It is based on the force. And only one of them had training from Luke and Snork at using the force. Take a pick.
>Rey was established as a master at melee fighting because she beat up those guys with her stick
who the fuck are they trying to fool?
>>63813379
>she won by giving into the Dark Side
If they actually explain that in the next film, then you are right. That would make sense and be consistent and an interesting way for her training with Luke to take off.
>>63813374
They must like poetry.
>>63813392
VII moved lightsaber fights back to traditional sword fighting instead of the garbage that I to III introduced. It is not hard to assume Finn learn swordfighting stances, guards and parries from his training as a stormtrooper.
>>63813419
This bait is so low-quality. Read the thread and the post right above yours you dumb fag
>>63813307
Just like Luke!
>>63813419
>comes into a thread
>posts without reading
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>>63813419
Just read the fucking thread, plenty of people have done that.
tfw agreeing with Max Landis
>>63813419
Luke wasn't good at everything and doubted himself often. Guy got excited whenever he did something right in ANH because his only real talent was flying.
Han also didn't instantly love him and thought he was a dumbass kid.
>>63812247
>complains about the studio system, yet agreed to play ball with them with his first film, despite knowing what it entailed.
That's what happens when people lack power and still desire to get shit done. Maybe you need to take a simple Karl Marx 101 lesson.
>>63813466
Yes it is, because STORMTROOPERS NEVER FUCKING USE SWORDS OF ANY TYPE, let alone lightsabres.
>>63813419
Her skills are gained instantly rather than though training.
No discernible character flaws.
Everyone likes her, (which is boring and takes away from the camaraderie that grows thorugh difference and adversity like in the originals) Han even comments that Chewie likes her which is the sort of wish fulfillment shit put into Mary Sue fan fiction.
>>63813049
>>"Muh OT"fags will still ignore this
>"Muh OT"fag still ignores it
You can't make this shit up
>>63813506
Somebody post the mcquarrie picture.
>>63813425
Max "fly low, sweet chariot. daddy's gonna cut off your head" Landis.
>>63813419
>Luke was brash and no one liked him
>needed his ass covered by Han
>needed Obi Wan help to get off Tatooine and do everything he did in the movie
>got his shit fucked up by Vader in the second movie
>>63813536
The who?
>>63812029
Absolute Madman
>>63813506
Stormtroopers got melee training senpai. Not hard to imagine they got anti Jedi training as well.
>>63812029
>Jew attacks other Jew
Which of these Juden am I supposed to root for?
>>63813307
this, she's more accurate than fucking Finn and Solo. All they had to do was have her lose to Kylo at the end of the movie and I could have forgiven all her bullshit (even that part where she orients the falcon so Finn can shoot the fighter, wtf was that shit) but nope, they had to have her wreck him, compromising his integrity as an intimidating villain and turning her into a full blown Mary Sue
>>63813419
Luke ran away from Vader in the first movie, got his fucking hand chopped after getting his ass kicked in the second movie, and then nearly died again in the third movie, and only survived because his father, who he was only able to beat when he lost his shit, decided to help him against the main bad guy that was clearly far more powerful.
He struggles immensely during his time with Yoda, and only after nearly giving up does he find the strength to keep going.
>>63813532
Just like Millennial kids like yourself ignore every point brought up against Rey
>>63813538
John "full body bris" Landis
>>63813469
lol luke fucking sucks at combat in ANH while they are fighting in the death star
>>63813536
>>63813506
>First Order is dedicated to finding a destroying Luke, the last Jedi
>Blasters useless against a strong Jedi
>Train them in dueling
Makes perfect sense really. Get like 4 or 5 of those Stormtroopers to surround Luke and even he would be in trouble.
>>63813469
Luke mentions shooting womprats in the canyon as a pastime, try again millenniumfag
>>63813223
Rey is:
A professional scavenger
Mechanic
Pilot
Staff weapon combat user
Climber and rapeller
Fluent in more than one language
Blaster user and perfect shot
Force user
Lightsaber weapon duelist
And most importantly: She doesn't need to be told HOW TO RUN.
Worst fucking Star Wars main character yet.
>>63813080
>Anakin wasn't a Marty Stu
Lost to Duku.
Lost to Obi-Wan.
Manipulated by everyone.
Big looser.
Ok.
>>63812079
Who? What?
>>63813620
m8, he'd wreck them in a second. All 5 would be clutching their throats before they got near.
>>63813445
Yeah. I don't think it's completely fair to judge her entire character based on what is essentially ONE act in what is obviously going to be a THREE-part play.
We'll get to know more about her past in the next movie, I'm sure.
I also hope that Finn gets some more development, too.
Also, while it's true that Kylo Ren is probably about as strong as Vader, skill-wise, he is far less mature and level-headed than Vader was (in the original trilogy). Hopefully, his training will improve this aspect, and we won't see any more of his temper-tantrums of his.
>>63813620
>Get like 4 or 5 of those Stormtroopers to surround Luke and even he would be in trouble.
but 4 or 5 Stormtroopers with blasters surrounding Luke wouldn't be trouble?
>>63813649
Luke wouldn't force choke people
>>63813080
It's almost like you have no idea what "Mary Sue" means. Hint: it's not "someone who succeeds at something and is the main character".
>>63813614
John "when the chopper goes wild, we kill another child" Landis.
>>63813634
Could they seriously not make one thing in which she wasn't proficient?
It's seriously like J.J. used the character profile of the Star Wars character his daughter wrote for herself.
>>63813674
He force choked 2 orcs in Return of the Jedi.
>>63813674
Nope just Jabba's piggies.
>>63813674
Only if they have snouts? Are you calling him some sort of pig racist?
>2 more movies with a mary sue character
I miss Lucas already
>>63813674
He does in Jedi. The Gamorean Guards.
>>63813445
bit early for her to be giving in to the dark side isn't it.Even in the prequels they waited till the third movie
I like landis now
>>63813694
What the fuck is this meme? I checked his wiki but he hasn't been in any accident, though the "personal life" section is suspiciously short.
>>63813661
To be honest I'm pretty sure they will rectify her Mary Sueness in Episode 8, partly due to fan response, but also just because "hurr durr second act has to be the darkest point", which they will clearly stick to.
That doesn't rectify that until then, Rey is a mary sue in a way no other characters has been in Star Wars so far.
>>63813737
>>63813722
>>63813719
>>63813712
I said people.
>>63813739
Luke is tempted by the Dark Side in both Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.
>>63813786
So YOU are the pig racist. Rude.
>>63813674
RotJ disagrees
>>63813753
brand new meme, see
>>63812437
>>63813058
>Initially rejected the force.
>was unwilling to deal with her emotions or move on (kept trying to return "home") until confronted about it
Did you want her to be handicapped or something anon?
>>63813786
moving the goalposts?
>>63813774
Rey is a poorly written character. A shame because she got the most screen time as well. I didn't connect to her like I did with Luke. Rey was just shown to be extremely good at whatever she did the first time she ever did something. That turns me off a character instantly. Even Finn is a better character than her.
>>63813506
there is a stormtrooper in TFA using a lightning staff thing. Did you forget that? I know it isn't a sword but it is a melee weapons, implying Finn would have basic melee training.
>>63813816
What is Landis' connection to this? I don't get it.
>>63813808
Subhumanoid scum. Kill pigs and pig sympathizers.
>>63813858
And I've been saying since the start that all weapons are not equivalent, Finn and Rey both know lightsabre defences, attacks and parries just instinctively.
>>63813110
it would have made the movie more dramatically interesting, since nothing was really established as an obstacle for her. i fear for the direction of the series now that there's no clear threat at the end of the first movie and the First Order was so soundly defeated.
>>63813823
And in the very next scene with her and the force, she beats Kylo Ren a trained Jedi from young by Luke and Snork whom I assume is a Sith Lord in a mental duel.
>>63813840
No. I only move goalposts in actual debates.
>>63812550
>I don't know how to google shit
Retard pls leave
>>63813634
you forgot no real character flaws, even anakin had his sperginess and insolence as well as being a god at everything
>>63813434
Only one of them was feeling an extreme wavering in his mental status due to knowing his father was near.
He fucking had a monologue with a dead ancestors mask, pleading for help with dealing with his mental/emotional turmoil.
As soon as she put a voice to that turmoil, it was too much and he lost focus.
>>63813913
Stormtroopers had anti jedi training against Luke I would assume.
>>63813845
Well Finn was basically the best character. He had an actual arc and the most pathos, he was the audience's "in" to the word of Star Wars. Although she had the Luke skillset, she was more like Han, in that she was already competent and worldly to Finn's Lukeish naivety. With Han being the Obi Wan of experience. So much pottery.
>>63812546
It's impressive that you're able to use the Internet, given how much of a massively crippled retard you must be.
>>63813880
John Landis is a director, who happens to be Max Landis's father.
The joke is, sins of the father, being applied to the son (which isn't the case, but Max Landis is a social justice faggot who believes in white privilege, and nonsense about white people apologizing for all of slavery and the like, typical LA lefty)
he didn't have anything to actually to do with his father's fuck up though
it's interchangeable with John Landis though
>>63813845
>never trained to shoot
>better at shooting than everyone else
>scrapyard technician
>knows the falcon better than Han
>stronger without training than any force user ever seen in the series
Can't believe Abrams wrote a literal Mary Sue into the series. She even gets affirmation from the established characters just like the original Mary Sue.
>>63812029
DAISY RIDLEY ACTS AS GOOD AS JON FUCKING SNOW'S ACTOR
LET'S JUST STARE WITH WIDE-EYED CONFUSION AT SOME LOCATION IN THE DISTANCE IN FUCKING EVERY SCENE
FUCK YOU
Can someone explain to me where the fuck this bitch learned mind trick from?
It took Luke extensive training to learn that shit, and Rey just happened to know how to use it because they had no other way to get her out of a bad situation.
I mean for fucks sake, how the fuck does she even know what mind trick IS? Let alone how to use it.
>>63813957
Only one of them didn't know the force existed an hour ago.
She constantly wanted to back to Jakku like a lost little kid. She rejects the force when it called to her via the lightsaber. And the very next minute, she beats Kylo Ren when he has a little daddy issue despite 0 training in the force.
Who the fuck are you trying to convince?
>>63813952
>anakin
In which 1on1 jedi battles he won, except younglings.
>>63813974
It's a bit of a fucking stretch, but whatever.
Maybe Sgt Chrometits likes to beat up all her squaddies in SpaceKendo, and that is one of the reasons he hates her.
>>63813978
Luke skillset was flying.
Rey got Anakin's tech skillset, Luke's flying skillset, Han's shooting skillset, Luke's ROTJ saber skillset, Anakin's post training force abilities skillset. They literally took everything good from past characters and threw it into Rey.
>goes from not even knowing what the Force is to mastering the Jedi mind trick with literally no training
fuck this shit and fuck anyone who defends it
Fetal Alcohol Syndrome
>>63812746
Vader had to experience his penis burning
>>63814009
This was the cherry on top of the cake.
On top of being the worst Mary Sue in the series, Daisy was a complete bore. Awful acting, awful writing, awful dialogue, all centered around this one character.
Which is a shame because the rest of the movie was quite satisfying.
>>63814014
Well we never see Luke be trained in it, he picked it up by himself, but he may have practiced it some in between ESB and ROTJ. Rey gets it perfect on the 2nd time.
>>63814074
Yes!
>>63812029
shes hardly in the movie, i barely noticed her
>>63812143
lucky bastard
>>63814004
yeah, everyone just seems to suddenly like her
luke meanwhile fought with han and occasionally leia initially and they grow to be friends over time because of the hardships they faced together
i think that's the recurring problem with rey, she just doesn't seem to grow or change or anything
>>63814100
nah, just British
>>63813634
The only way they could make this better is by making her turn evil.
They will never do that though.
>>63813673
this is a recurring plothole, I think everyone just lets it slide. But lets be honest, en masse firing at a jedi would probably bring most of them down.
>>63813627
In his T-16, not with a blaster, try again reddit
>>63814112
Well, that's what I meant by training, I guess. I meant that it took him a while and clearly a lot of practice and advancement in his knowledge of the force to be able to use it.
But like you said, Rey gets it on her 3rd fucking try. That shit is beyond retarded. She learned how to use mind trick before even learning how to lift rocks with the force. What kind of shit progression is that?
>>63814098
This
>>63814134
If she gets some proper backstory in the next film that could fix it.
>>63814004
>knows the falcon better than Han
It was just one thing she got right, and her solution was just a spur of the moment Gordian knot style thing that was staring them both in the face. She may have actually done it by accident, that's the vibe I got anyway. She "bypassed" the compressor by just ripping it off.
But yeah she was AS competent as everyone. At everything. Without trying.
>>63814109
I was laughing at how bad she was in the final fight vs Kylo. Whenever they clashed sabers, you could see the huge contrast in acting ability between the two instantly. Kylo was able to pull off the look of desperation and pain while fighting Rey while Rey just looked at Kylo in apparent confusion.
>>63814187
>en masse firing at a jedi would probably bring most of them down
Which is exactly what happened in Attack of the Clones (in the arena) and in Revenge of the Sith (Order 66). There is zero reason to train your stormtroopers in sword fighting in an age where where everyone has a goddamn blaster.
>>63814246
>that fucking force meditation moment
What do you think her pussy smells like?
>>63812029
Literally sexism. That exact character played by a young man wouldn't elicit this reaction.
>>63814109
This. The rest of the film was good enough to excuse her, and she was hot of course so that's nice. I felt Finn was the real main character. He was the first one we saw, right?
Though I guess that logic would make C-3PO the MC of A New Hopewhich is totally correct
>>63812466
The term Mary Sue has been around longer than the internet, faggot. "Gary Stu" needs to stop though. Mary Sue applies to either gender.
![hayden-christensen[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/66Uuv2X.jpg "hayden-christensen[1].jpg")
>>63814304
Sand
>>63814318
Poe was the first one we saw
>>63814318
We see either Oscar Isaac or Max Von Sydow first, I can't recall who.
>>63813786
fucking racist
>>63814009
exactly. on top of being a poorly written character (and a huge fucking mary sue) she was easily the worst actor among the main characters. Poe was infinitely more likable.
the main characters name is Rei? With all the Lucas/Anno comparisons it seems to me there's been some multidimensional meme-rift
>>63814362
>>63814367
Don't you see the stormtroopers in their transport first?
>>63814036
>didn't know the force existed
She'd heard stories about it before. About the Jedi before. Everyone in the fucking galaxy knows about the Force and the Jedi because of Luke's participation in defeating the Empire.
>>63814112
luke sees obi wan use it in ANH, and has it explained in a very basic way. At least thats SOME kind of introduction
>>63814353
>>63814435
Which may or may not have been Finn
Do we get to see her armpits?
I want to lick them
>>63814435
Christ.
>>63814459
It totally was Finn, we also see a close up of one looking kind of nervous.
Terrible character. Terrible actress. Terrible story.
>>63814444
yeah, how does rey know that jedi can even mindtrick at all?
luke figures it out because he sees obi wan do it, and stories of the jedi are dissolving into myth now
>>63814112
He at least saw Obi-wan doing it, then attempted to replicate it on Jabba. In this case it was literally an ass pull.
>>63813880
Search the Twilight Zone Accident.
Watched the best of the worst with him today. It was painfully obvious how much Jay hates him. Why the hell did he return? Was it Mike? Did they put up with him just to get a Macaulay cameo?
>>63814178
Did you see her fucking eyes at the end of the fight?
She almost killed Kylo Ren out of anger.
She was literally that close to going over to the Dark Side.
This will be relevant in the future.
>>63812029
Normally this is bullshit, but in this case...
>incredibly skilled pilot
>incredibly skilled mechanic and technician - better than Han and Chewie at fixing a ship they flew for decades
>superb shot
>excellent at hand to hand combat - easily defeats two larger male aliens that took her by surprise and incapacitates a former stormtrooper 5 seconds later
>better at force mind probing - on her first attempt with NO training - than a man who has trained for a decade under one of the greatest Jedi to have ever lived and a sith lord. She blocks it, reverses it, and reads his mind
>completely dominates and mind controls a stormtrooper on her first time using The Voice with no training
>wins a force-tug-of-war over a lightsaber with a sith who was trained by Luke Skywalker with NO training and having never used the power before in her life
>wins a lightsaber duel with a combat trained force using sith by using battle meditation with no training and never having used it before
It appears her only weakness is for black cock.
>>63814519
Well considering Luke's myth is something she is acquainted with, maybe she knows all the stuff he SUPPOSEDLY could do.
Would be funny her trying out shit that was just a rumour, like being able to fly or breathe fire or something and it being "NOT HOW THE FORCE WORKS", etc.
>>63814547
Hahaha. That would imply she can act.
>>63814514
Great characters, good actress, terrible story.
>>63814014
or how she was able to defeat someone in a lightsaber duel who was trained by luke skywalker and had advanced force powers like the ability to suspend a laser beam in mid air, despite never using a lightsaber before or having been trained in the force at all
>>63813281
This. All this. You guys need to stop making these ridiculous excuses and just admit that the movie has some flaws and that that doesn't mean you can't enjoy it or that it's terrible
>>63814547
She will be the first one to be both Light and Dark side of the force at the same and bring real balance to the force
>>63814566
>It appears her only weakness is for black cock.
She even seemed pretty adept at friendzoning Finn until he risked his life trying to rescue her and nearly died.
>>63814585
>Good actress
Oh man. I wish I had the film available to screencap right now. Her reaction when Han was stabbed was downright hilarious.
>>63814220
eh, she'll still be unreasonably skilled at too many things. With her current skillset, after being trained by Luke for a bit she'll pretty much be ROTS anakin with the ethics of RTJ Luke.
>>63814612
>Who is Mace Windu?
>>63813634
Hi Max. Loved you on BotW. American Alien is pretty good too.
>>63814581
She can act better than Jake Lloyd, at least.
>>63812079
good one lol
>>63814661
Jake Lloyd was a child actor. It isn't a fair comparison.
>>63814547
>>63814612
I-is Rey Revan?
>>63814651
>normies are here
Gross af
That faggot is in this thread. Fuck you Max Landis. Fuck you
>>63814566
Yes, never mind the fact that Kylo Ren was already mentally unstable (he threw fucking temper-tantrums, for fuck's sakes), and during the final duel, he was injured severely beforehand by both Chewbacca AND Finn in addition to this.
It's like you people didn't even watch the movie.
>>63814733
That would imply Disney could write a competent character
>>63814613
>She even seemed pretty adept at friendzoning Finn until he risked his life trying to rescue her and nearly died.
Didn't make a difference. She still called him friend and her kiss was only on the forehead. Seems she has no weaknesses.
>>63814752
Being on the dark side, anger is actually a good tool to have.
>>63814733
Even Revan got his ass handed to him. A lot.
Rey is even more perfect.
>>63814733
Delete this, you are going to trigger the guys that are too cool to like videogames but are ok with liking Star Wars.
>>63814752
It's more the fact that she does all this shit without EVER HAVING TOUCHED A LIGHTSABRE EVER IN HER LIFE
