Sorry lads, but it's clear to all that our greatest fear has come to pass: the prequels were actually better.
The reason for this is simple. The prequels, unlike TFA, had actual identifiable moments of intense drama and emotion, moments when the viewer was deeply invested.
>Final duel/death of Qui'gon in Ep. 1
>Monologue by Yoda at the end of Ep. 2 about the all consuming power of the dark side, etc.
>Lots in Ep. 3: Anakin's fall, Order 66, Palpatine's speech establishing the Empire, etc.
None of this was to be found in TFA. The grand moment in the thermal oscillator felt mechanical, and the viewer is distracted the entire time by the ignominious miscasting of Driver as the villain--it's hard to be afraid of someone so dorkish, ugly, and weak looking. There's also no buildup of their relationship. Viewers just have to take it on the writer's word that Solo and Kylo had some kind of prior bond since there's no attempt to show it.
Cold; calculated; mechanical. These words characterize TFA. The prequels may have been clumsy and amateurish, but at least they had genuine emotion amidst the goofiness.
>>63810354
While I agree TFA was a safe almost rehash of ANH, it was still better than PM and AOTC.
No fucking way, TFA was way better than the prequels
you fucks allways do this shit
whenever a new iteration of a series comes out you just have to constantly shit on it and say the previous ones were better, even if it isnt true
can you try forming your own opinions for once instead of being brainwashed by retarded 4chan logic
>>63810516
Hello reddit!
>>63810516
No dude, this film was a safely made flick that had flaws. It was barely better than the prequels.
>>63810542
I love how whenever someone disagrees with you they're automatically Reddit
Fucking christ /tv/ is the worst board
this is literally the /tv/ opinion though
>>63810516
Enjoy your coldly calculated mishap of a flick that tries way too hard to appease nostalgiatards.
Prequels may have shit dialogue most of the time, but when shit gets dramatic it does it sure as fuck better and more original than this manufactured piece of shit.
>>63810516
I'm not memeing and I'm not a /tv/ regular, though I occasionally indulge in baneposting. I mainly post on /lit/.
I honestly evaluated all the films and TFA is vastly worse than Phantom Menace could ever hope to be. Ep. 1 may lack some of the artistic soul of the OT, but in TFA it's completely gone, only a shell remains.
>>63810516
Its also that no one here likes fun
Especially anyone on /tv/
>>63810354
>the viewer
no you cunt
stop passing off your fucking opinions as a majority
>>63810564
sup reddit?
Has this what it's seriously come to? You want to hate the new film so much you're going to pretend the prequels are better? I'm sorry, but even if you think TFA was shit, the prequels were then abysmal in comparison. The Force Awakens actually felt like Star Wars again, not some fucked up dream george lucas had after doing drugs.
>>63810664
It's pretty standard to write that way when discussing works of art, sorry if that upsets you.
>>63810717
helloooo reddit!
>>63810717
>The Force Awakens actually felt like Star Wars again
Spoken like a true nostalgiainfested redditordrone.
>>63810354
>The prequels had actual identifiable moments of intense drama and emotion, moments when the viewer was deeply invested.
I haven't seen TFA but you know this is bullshit.
>>63810354
Woah woah woah buddy lets not go around saying things we are going to regret. I can see people making arguments for episode 3 being better but episodes 1 and 2? Really? You are being blinded by hate for this new movie.
>>63810717
Dude honestly if you want discussion stay far far away from /tv/. /tv/ is the hub of the most unintelligent arguments on the internet.
Just come for the shitposting.
>>63810717
TFA felt like a generic action movie minus cool actors. Like a scifi Mission Impossible but without Tom Cruise and hot sluts
>>63810354
Seriously though, even II was better.
I mean, VII was so unrealistic. How can you expect me to believe that the entire time they are on Jakku nobody oncetalks about how the sand just gets everywhere? It's got to be coarse and irritating
>>63810354
>prequels
>better than TFA
Come on dude, TFA might not have been amazing, but the OT itself isn't Amazing. They're just good enjoyable movies. TFA may have retread some of the same ground as ANH but it still felt like a Star Wars movie, unlike the prequels.
>>63810653
Now this is trolling!
>>63810354
They actually felt like Star Wars films, not this...new thing.
tfa is shit and so are the prequels.
star and empire arent bad flicks, with rotj only being a bit shit.
>>63810748
Oh sorry, I didn't realise most people associated Star Wars with Jar Jar Binks, Midichlorians and shitty dance battles. Well maybe a fucking child who grew up on those things blinded by nostalgia would.
>hurr durr but what about your original trilogy nostalgia
I watched every Star Wars film for the first time like 2 years ago. I didn't grow up with them and even I know the force awakens is a lot more enjoyable than the prequels.
is star wars going to be the new zelda cycle
>>63810890
Plagiarism is never okay, even if you have the same hack Lawrence Kasden writing.
>>63810969
>I watched every Star Wars film for the first time like 2 years ago
>lying on the internet
>>63810991
Calling it Plagarism is a bit of a stretch
>>63810705
hi 9gag.
>>63810969
No reason to lie
>>63810354
I'm sorry but TFA was objectively DECENT and subjectively GOOD. My only qualms were the story rehash, Kylo being a literal nerd and it being painfully obvious that Rey isLuke's daughter.
>>63811015
>steal entire plot of the first movie
>movie is entirely a plot based form of entertainment
yea totally not stealing someone elses artistic work and slapping your own shitty PC stamp on it
can't wait til the shills leave, literally drink bleach you disney fucks
>>63810564
>Fucking christ /tv/ is the worst board
the entire premise of 4chan since 2004 is to make people mad and this anon right here just make it
>>63810969
What the hell is with the midichlorian hate? It was mentioned once, and helps to explain why some may have more of a talent in terms of being in tune with/manipulating the force. The force is still the shit that surrounds you and flows through you and shit.
>>63811049
No shit, anyone with a brain can figure this shit out
>>63810653
this.
wait till a week or two till the denial and hype goggles wear off and people will realize this movie didn't need to be made
it was a mediocre rip off, of an already great movie. TFA feels like fan fiction and that's what it is. a simple cash grab exploiting our nostalgia
the prequels may not be great but at least they were original and tried expanding and answering sought after questions from a loved series
I agree with you OP but you aren't going to get through to a fanbase that has just invested over a year of emotional and intellectual energy hyping this movie up to be something great. They're blind.
It is getting pretty hyped by retards who say they feel the Nostalgia because they grew with star wars. Kek every 12 year old is saying this.
It is just popular because pop culture is all about nerd culture and shit. There's no way that in the early twenties the avengers would get this kind of hype and critical success, same with this lame attempt at star wars.
Y
I'd always take an original idea instead of something so blatantly rehashed, no matter if the original idea is abysmal or not.
Original > you
>>63811095
People interpreted it as midichlorians being the source of the force. When you think of it like that, rather than the force being some mystical power, it's easy to see why people got pissed.
>>63810748
>Drone
>Agreeing blindly with a majority on tv to seem edgy
Uhhh hello? retard?
>>63811118
well said
this movie is just fan fic tier and rehashing. it screams out
HERE NEW STAR WARS THE ENTIRE PLOT AGAIN BUT WITH NEW CHARACTERS!
LOOK HAN SOLO! BUY OUR FUCKING MOVIE ALREADY!
AND HERES SOME LIBERAL PROPAGANDA TO GO WITH IT
>>63811291
Hello reddit!
>>63810354
Production values also felt like a TV show for some reason. Everything had this weird glow
Not that the visuals in the Prequels weren't also handicapped by CGI but the cinematography in TFA just felt off
>>63811289
I likened them to mitochondria (the memetic "powerhouse" of the cell) or symbiotic bacteria. Why people thought Lucas was retconning The Force would've been a mystery to me.
>>63811331
You know if i was a fat sexually frustrated piece of shit like you id troll /tv/ all day too.
I know you have to do something like this too keep your mind off your father raping your sister dead.
Can you hum a single original melody from this other then the one in the very last scene?
I totally agree.
Star Wars isn't even Star Wars with zero Lucas involvement anyway.
How the fuck are people OK with Disney just buying franchises and pretending to give a shit about them? Come on...it's so cynical and gross.
Fuck this movie.
>>63811377
Same poster. And to clarify, because now I see a flaw in my writing in this post, I see them more as a medium rather than a power source.
Did they play the Imperial March theme?
>>63811389
holy shit redditors are so fucked in twisted in the head man. kill yourself normie.
>>63811436
I don't even remember anything in the very last scene. I can vaguely remember the piano bit when she rode that leaf down the sand dune, but the entire time I thought it was some amateur trying to be JW.
>>63810354
Not even trying
>>63811436
The music during the title crawl
>>63811436
I've been humming "The March of the Resistance" since last night.
>>63811498
>normie
Fuck right off back to your containment board, robot
>Prequel apologists
You're the worst kind of Star Wars fan and you have no taste.
>>63811498
You're the loser talking about a childerns movie you fucking autist LMAO.
What the matter it didnt live up to your manchild ways?
Anyways hope you die, fuccboi. Because no one would miss your retarded all except maybe you uncle missing your sweet boypussy.
>>63811609
>would rather a rehash rather then original ideas
go back to leddit
>>63810817
>far far away
well played
>>63810354
Why did we let him go, bros?
Will he ever come back again?
>TFA
Boring, safe glib facsimile of the OT.
>Prequels
So shitty they were hilarious in some parts, memorable scenes, new content, lots of Sheev
The winner is clear lads.
>It's actually a great fucking movie
>jaded autists on the internet who probably didn't even watch it will use buzzwords to say it's shit just so they can feel better about themselves for having "superior taste in cinema" over the "pleb masses"
Guess what, you're the First Order, you're Kylo Ren, you're the whiny autist throwing a temper tantrum in your office despite claiming you want to bring Order to the galaxy because you hate your dad
Nope. Prequels had some unique ideas but their execution was horrific. Terrible writing, directing and action.
Even if some ideas in this movie was redone, the execution was largely very good. Direction, action, writing and acting was all on point.
>>63811620
>>63811609
>>63811603
Someone close the gates, redditugees shouldn't ridicule themselves in public space.
>>63811640
>Wants George Lucas' original ideas rather than a carefully crafted film
go back to leddit
>>63810817
>/tv/ is a wretched hive of scum and villainy
>>63811640
Quit trying so hard to fit in
The most unoriginal movie I've seen since Jurassic World
>>63810354
people will say youre a fag/trolling but i agree the PT had the George spirit/pottery.
2 was super shit though, captain pham.
>>63810354
>hating on a Disney product
Shame on you contrarian, edgy, virgin, autistic neckbeard.
>>63811688
>b-but Reddit
Anybody who uses normie instead of normalfag is an /r9k/ autist. Just kill yourself, mate
>>63811689
>lawl i know better the vision of the creator than the creator
Hi, reddit!
>>63810354
Hahah, oh god. /tv/ is being amazing about Star Wars. It's like looking into another dimension. It's as bad as /v/.
>>63811688
Keep projecting, nerd.
>>63811761
>mate
Hello reddit!
![g1352129205367343592[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/o0gZvtq.jpg "g1352129205367343592[1].jpg")
>>63811689
Yea I want original ideas rather the plagiarism, fuck me right
also replacing members of the cast with token people of color does not count as original ideas, it's just a glib director who hates whiteness
>>63811763
>Implying George Lucas doesn't get too much credit for creating Star Wars
Hi, reddit!
>>63811679
>you're the fucking empire man
dont use memes when trying to bait.
2 obvious.
>>63810354
Revenge of the Sith was definitely better than TFA. It's the same level of trash as the first two prequels.
Only the most desperate of the shills will defend the new trainwreck.
I guess it's the Disney's PR machine at work.
>>63811436
snoke's theme
>>63810354
Depends of what you consider "better".
The Force Awakens was a better movie than any of the prequels.
But the prequels had a better story.
>>63811874
But that's wrong since The Phantom Menace was better than Revenge of the Sith, and The Force Awakens is clearly better than The Phantom Menace.
>>63810354
Sorry bud, tfa ranks like 30 points higher than any od the prequel movies on rt. Get fucked op.
Inb4
>rotten tomatoes
Yeah I'll take that site more seriously than some random faggot on here.
>>63811890
>TFA was a better movie
You mean a better scifi action movie. Because it certainly wasn't a Star Wars movie.
>>63811436
The song that played during xwing base scenes, which vaguely reminded me of drod invasion from PM ost
>>63810726
>the standard way to do something is retarded, but ok since it's standard
Hey I hear tumblr is a good site.
>>63811921
>on rt
Nice one reddit.
>>63811921
>he doesn't know that Disney practically owns 90% of the critics aggregated by RT
>he doesn't know that Luscasfilm was practically an independent studio by comparison to Disney
>>63811950
I meant in cinematic terms, TFA was better. But I felt it was a bland SW movie. At least the prequels had creativity and originality.
>>63811921
>"Durr, RT said it was good so it must be good!"
You're literally a marketer's wet dream.
>>63811921
RT only establishes if it was a well-made movie, faggot.
It's up to us, the people to decide if it was good or bad or really really really shitty.
>>63811950
>Because it certainly wasn't a Star Wars movie.
By what standard? Because it was certainly a better fucking Star Wars movie than anything that's come out from that franchise since after 1980
>>63811921
u have no idea how easy it is to buy reviews or upvotes or thumbs up or twitter accounts
and b/c of that u r being manipulated into watching this cultural Marxist propaganda
i feel bad for you, your IQ is so low you prolly won't be able to understand this post :/
>>63811921
rt has been consistently been a corporate shill central in the past few years.
At least the trolls here don't have Disney's strings influencing their opinions.
>>63812003
>Prequels
>creative and original
>Implying they didn't steal from the original trilogy left and right
>>63812087
>prequels
>steals from the content of the first movie
>it's poetry
>TFA
>steals the plot of the first movie
>it's plagiarism
fuck off
>>63812087
They didn't steal in the same sense that TFA stole. The prequels subtly echoed elements from the OT (ex: Darth Maul falling down the energy shaft like Palptaine in ROTJ) while TFA blatantly copies them.
>>63812087
>paying subtle homage /= blatantly ripping off the basic outline of the entire plot
>>63812138
Also, the prequels expanded A LOT the star wars universe.
Of course, by all means, that doesn't make them good movies per se. But as sure as hell they're better star wars movies.
>>63811984
Sure thing tumblr
>>63811999
Then why did tron legacy, arguably better than tfa, only score in the 50s fuck face?
>>63812008
Didn't say it was good, just better than the pt. Keep up corky.
>>63812035
Us the people? Ok well I and many others think op is a retard, so that's that then?
>>63812067
>conspiracy theorist
>questioning the intelligence of others
That you again corky?
>>63811456
You're correct in your interpretation of what midichlorians are/do. The point still stand though, that people were quick to react with hate. Personally I don't like the idea of them, but they don't really cheapen the series as a whole. I guess it's a matter of preference.
>>63812127
>>63812138
>>63812177
>all these prequel apologists
What's it like living with such blissful ignorance?
>>63812212
>still unironically trusts rt
Hello shill!
>>63812198
>prequels were better star wars movies because they showed us the boring inner workings of the galactic senate and boring characters dumped useless exposition on you
yeah nah you're fucking dumb
be honest - how many of you defending the prequels watched them as children?
>>63812242
Hello reddit!
I knew this would happen. God damn you /tv/.
The prequel trilogy might as well be written and acted out by robots. It has the most stiff, soulless dialogue I've ever heard.
>>63812242
It's not being apologist you dumb fuck. It's recognizing that at least Lucas tried new things for the saga.
They're still bad movies in itself.
>>63810354
Back to TV Tropes with you, faggot. :-)
>>63812138
Well, Star Wars has always followed the basic hero's journey outline. There were going to be comparisons in the first flick no matter what
The Starkiller Base, while at first glance just looks like another Death Star, was literally just used as a plot device for JJ to tell you the superweapon battle doesn't matter and is just a formality while the characters are what's really important
>>63812273
Yeah you're right better get to the pew pew and quips right?
fucking faggot
>>63812003
>desert boy meets jedi
>turns out hes force sensitive and a good pilot
>teams up with jedi ,an alien, and royalty
>joins a rebel fight against greater opposing force
>watches a jedi take on a sith
>flies space ship to enemy command ship and blows it up, winning the battle
>gets trained to be a jedi
I just described ep1 and 4. You can't fault just jj for harkening back to ep 4.
>>63812242
>wanting a bland, forgettable glib facsimile instead of something that branched out and failed catastrophically
TFA apologists are already worse than prequel apologists ever were
>The prequels, unlike TFA, had actual identifiable moments of intense drama and emotion, moments when the viewer was deeply invested.
'no'
>>63812261
>unironically trusts op, who is secretly a butt harmed George Lucas
Hi retard!
>>63812403
>glib facsimile
How's that buzzword working out for you?
>>63812423
>unironically disparages the creator of his beloved franchise
Hello angry redditor.
>>63812326
>tried new things
See
>>63812383
>>63812414
>'no'
>doesn't refute examples
>>>/reddit/
>>63812383
The protagonist of EP I is Qui-Gonn you retarded idiot.
>>63812403
I'd rather a glib facsimile of a good film than an ambitious film that is boring on near every level.
>>63812375
It's funny that you use that as a defense when the Prequels are exactly that, nothing more than pew pew and quips with absolutely nothing going on with the characters
>>63811671
Sheev isdead ;_;
>>63812540
I'm pretty sure the protagonist in Episode I was Jar Jar since he was literally the only character in the movie to have a character arc.
>>63810354
This is a nice bait. Sorry but the prequels were only good to kids, a grown up would know that TFA is a 9/10 while the prequels are like 4/10 average at most. Tho episode 3 had it's moments. Yes those moments you mention were touching for every SW fan, but they rank up to 30 minutes in the whole 3 movies. They were fucking horrible, dialogue was cheesy, no character development, Obi Wan and Anakin were fucking boring, the romance between Padme and Anakin was ridiculous... I could continue all day long.
>>63812540
And that refutes my points how exactly, you fucking idiot prequel shit eating retard?
>>63811671
Agree with this. Some parts of the prequels are awful and some are amazing. I would rather have that than this boring bluster of a movie
>>63812602
Prequels average a 3-4/10.
TFA is a solid 7/10 for me.
>>63810652
When exactly gets dramatic? the only truly dramatic moment in the whole prequels was Anakin turning into Vader, and that's it.
>>63812612
That refutes your entire basic outline of the plot since the central figure is not a young desert boy around which the story revolves. Your analogy is false.
>>63811671
Theres only been ONE fucking sequel movie retard.
As far as ep4 remakes go, ep7 blows ep1 out of the fucking water.
The rest is yet to be seen.
>>63810354
>Final duel/death of Qui'gon in Ep. 1
Pointless, flawless, uninteresting duel
Death of pointless character could have been avoided if Obi remembered to run fast
>Monologue by Yoda at the end of Ep. 2 about the all consuming power of the dark side, etc.
Of course talking is memorable; it's all there was
>Lots in Ep. 3: Anakin's fall, Order 66, Palpatine's speech establishing the Empire, etc.
Meme number
Another speech—how did no one see he was evil anyway?
>>63812602
I agree the OT is fucking overrated.
>>63812681
Well the central figure certainly wasn't Qui-Gon, so you're not really correct.
>the movies with boring, forgettable characters and laughably bad cgi were better
>>63812681
My analogy isn't an analogy you fucking idiot, IT COMPARES **********FACTUAL INFORMATION ********** THAT HAPPENS IN BOTH MOVIES.
You have no fucking argument here shit head. Fuck off.
>>63812540
Are you the autistic boy from YouTube?
>>63810354
There are some scenes in the prequels that TFA simply can't top, in fact, i'd argue that none of the best scenes in the prequels can be topped by the best scenes in TFA, they also had a more memorable soundtrack. TFA is undeniably the better movie as a whole but overall it's not a great Star Wars movie.
>>63812757
>gets destroyed argumentatively
>lmao i did not said what i said i said what i said u dumb :-D
Back to reddit.
>>63810354
>intense drama and emotion
0/10
>>63812781
>There are some scenes in the prequels that TFA simply can't top
>>63812750
the irony is that they claim the Force Awakens is a safe cash-in when the Prequels actually were the fucking boring, awfully made movies with no reason to exist but to lead into the original movies, but they'll call TFA shit and the prequels good just to be contrarian
there was more going on in this movie alone with the characters and the setting than the ENTIRE prequel trilogy. People confuse talky exposition with actual thematic depth
>>63810516
Literally name one part of TFA where you would pop in the dvd just to watch the part. I can think of many scenes and segments from all other 6 movies. Where is the memorable scene in thus one?
>>63812781
Some examples?
>all those faggots who were only just children when the prequels released think they can talk trash about them here
Back to reddit and let the adults continue.
>>63812846
How about the part when the whole fucking thing?
>>63812807
Nigger I literally outlined several points that make ep1 a copy of ep4.
If posting facts is your idea of making bad arguments, 4chan really is where you belong.
If I go back to reddit, will you at least consider going back to school?
>>63812836
>copy a previous movie from the same franchise
>actual thematic depth
Hello reddit!
>>63812826
>>63812847
Darth Maul duel, Anakin vs. Obi-Wan, Order 66, Palpatine telling Anakin about immortality and killing his own master at the theater, Yoda versus Palpatine.
>>63810354
There's no way the prequels could have been better, because it is impossible to make a movie worse than any of those. They were not quite bad enough to warrant MST3K, which is the nadir of movie quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzVBqBosf5w
Why couldn't they at least have good music in 7? You can shit on the prequels as much as you want but at least it had some amazing tracks.
>>63812846
The whole movie? It's easily the most watchable starwars movie to date.
>>63812846
I don't watch movies like that. I used to when I was young.
But, the Millenium Falcon introduction was quite good. The fight between Kylo and Rey at the end was good too.
>>63812847
>Are you an angel?
>Pee-yousa!
>I'll try spinning!
>I'm in agony.
>You're so...beautiful.
Truly goat.
>>63812846
I liked the Solo death scene, mostly for the very last moment when Han touches his son. But I see what you mean.
>>63812864
Funny. Cause after I saw it I had that same feeling I get after I see a shit film that isn't worth a re watch. Like Pacific Rim or something.
>>63812922
>DM Duel
starts decent, then awful
>Anakin vs Obi
awful
>Order 66
decent
>Theatre Scene
decent
>Yoda vs Palp
decent
you posted okay parts of a shit-tastic trilogy
>>63812846
>all six movies
Name literally one scene from Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones.
>>63812926
Have you listened to the soundtrack? It's outstanding.
>>63812836
I bet you that 1 year from now people won't remember jack shit about TFA other than that it followed the Star Wars plot. Meanwhile, "it's treason then" "no no no" "unlimited power" "THEN YOU ARE LOST" and so on will all remain in our memories.
>>63812925
It's over Reddit! i have the high ground!
>>63810354
The prequels aren't as bad as people like to meme, but they don't even compare to TFA. AotC barely even qualifies as a Star Wars film, come on now.
>>63810354
Right on OP! I agree 100%!
This new flick isn't Lucas so it shouldn't even be considered canon. Its just fanfic.
>>63812926
I quite like the new rebel theme.
>>63812846
The General Hux speech before blowing up that system.
I really like space nazis
>>63812922
>all those lifeless, soulless, overly choreographed lightsaber fights
>order memememe
>sheev trying to slap anakin in the face about how he is the sith lord and anakin being too much of a fucking retard to pick up on it
Yes. All those oh so wonderful scenes from the prequels.
>>63812846
>watching one scene
Autism or ADD?
>>63812922
Am I the only one that liked the political side of the prequels? It wasn't complex but seeing Palpatine slowly take over was great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo4cFViNLes
>>63812987
The Podrace scene / Battle of Geonosis
See that was easy Redditor.
>>63810354
I haven't seen the new movie. I don't care about all the "it was trash" whiners. All I want to know is: did they kill any of the Old cast, destroy the Falcon, and/or destroy any planets?
The only thing even remotely good about the prequels is the action and TFA beats them out in that regard alone.
>>63813062
rekt
>>63812926
This is the only valid point I will accept. PT thanks to jw had a great soundtrack. Who scored ep7? The music was just...ok.
>>63813000
Nice quads, I was going to respond with memes but I have to concede your superior position.
>>63813047
I thought the political parts were interesting. Maybe a little too much of it, but seeing the slow takeover and death of democracy was neat.
>>63812999
I don't remember those. I've already seen TFA more times than Rots.
>>63813047
>Star Wars will never again have these political drama elements
>Instead we get the inexplicable clusterfuck of the Republic, the Resistance, and the First Order
>>63812987
Final fight and Obi Wan chasing Jango through that Asteroid field
>those deliciously sounding seismic charges
>>63813047
Any scene with Sheev in it is automatically enjoyable. Easily the most likable character in the series.
>>63813011
>actually believing Lucas was the one that made Star Wars the loved franchise it is today
He was a decent writer, but Spielberg saved the original trilogy from being just another shitty sci-fi B movie.
i marathoned TFA last night it was okay
>>63813101
uh... john williams...
lel
>>63813091
Han Solo dies, Ford's wanted out of the franchise for ages.
Falcon is fine.
They destroy some planets, but we know very little about any of them.
>>63810516
It's boring as shit man.
>>63811671
>Sheev
This. Sheev makes the PT even if everything else is terrible.
How long till you idiots start saying the prequels are better than the originals?
That's coming next. You know it is.
besides the bickering, the most curious part of this thread is that TFA already has diehard fanboys
>>63812922
TFA had a better lightsaber fight at the end, than any of the fights in the prequels.
>>63813115
>I don't remember those. I've already seen TFA more times than Rots.
Hello Walt!
>>63813115
>I don't remember "it's treason then"
>>63812987
reveal of the clone army and Anakin's first space flight
>>63813062
>Podrace scene
>Geonosis
Back to your games, /v/tard.
>>63813148
Well shit. Is he kust old and uninspired now?
>>63813165
>Two beginners swinging sabers around aimlessly
>Rey trying a lunge like 5 times
>>63813101
Some new guy, John Williams I think his name is.
He's not as good as the original composer.
>>63813047
Going into The Phantom Menace I was very interested in seeing what the Star Wars galaxy was like pre-Empire, especially with the politics. I really wish that it had been handled better because it could have been pretty neat.
>>63812987
Podrace/Duel with DM
Geonosis Battle
>>63813165
>TFA had a better lightsaber fight at the end, than any of the fights in the prequels.
Hello reddit!
>>63813163
wait till the hype goggles wear off and reddit leaves then we can get some actual discussion
>>63813046
Film Junkie?
>>63812999
Literally all of these are maximum cringe. If memorable is your only standard, then I guess you're right.
>>63813047
If it was made at any other time as to not obviously draw parallels between the Iraq War and sacrificing freedom for security, it would've been a lot better. Still I kind of like the political machinations stuff as well as the mystery of the clone army in Attack of the Clones.
But I'd much rather have a regular action adventure for Star Wars. Leave all that political drama for Star Trek.
>>63813165
The choreography sucked and there was no emotional weight. All I can say is the saber effects were some of the best in the series. That's it.
>>63810354
Cherry picking the best moments of 3 movies and comparing them to a single movie.
>>63813165
>the most implausible lightsaber fight ever
At least Lucas didn't have child Anakin pick up Qui'gon's lightsaber and BTFO of Darth Maul
>>63813115
holy shit
genuine proof reddit has arrived
>>63813047
I did too, easily my favorite part of the prequels. Especially the way they get developed on in the Clone Wars. But I know we'll never get galactic politics ever again because Disney just wants to rehash the OT ad nauseam.
>>63813206
>especially with the politics
Well you got that alright.
>>63813119
I think that's one of the issues with TFA. Abrams tries so hard to avoid any politics since people hated it in the prequels, that there's literally none. And that's kind of a problem since we don't know anything about the state of the galaxy. What's the republic, how big is their reach, what do they do? How did the First Order take over, how much do they control, do people support them?
We know nothing about the galaxy and what's happened.
>>63810717
Episode 3 was as good or better, unless you're too fucking autistic to care about story and overarching plot and you just want to be handheld for an entire movie
>>63813153They destroyed Coruscant.
>>63813196
They felt like real people, not computer generated characters.
>>63813209
objectively the worst meme on this board
>>63813162
Now you're just off your rocker for suggesting that, mister
>>63813245
>the choreography sucked
>>63813047
Loved it in the third, not so much in the first or second
>>63813192
It's 10 years since he composed a Star Wars Film. I say that's about when he stopped being good.
He's newer scores for Spielberg and Abrams can never compete what he did in the 70's and 80's.
>>63813297
>thinks reddit is a meme
Back to reddit.
>>63813294
It's not Coruscant. It's some other planet, people have linked to the wookiepedia page for it but I don't remember its name.
>>63813238
That's the entire point, it was so bad it was hilarious. Incredibly memorable, something that sticks with you and makes you laugh every now and then instead of something you forget a few months after you watch it. The complete opposite of boring.
>>63813230
So, autism.
>>63812999
But those are all end of the trilogy moments, and memes no less.
You fucks are acting like the new trilogy is already complete and watched.
Ep7 by itself, blows away ep1. I suspect 8 and 9 will destroy 2 and 3 in similar fashion and produce the retarded memes you want.
>>63813338
>>63813294
if it wasnt coruscant though then why did the republic not react to getting fucking attacked?
LITERAL genocide.
>>63813365
Bad writing.
>>63813246
You're absolutely right. Compared to the mere parts of the OT and prequels, the entirety of TFA is trash.
It couldn't begin competing with the whole movies of the prequels or OT.
>at least the prequels were original/tried to do something new!
Nigga there are plenty of garbage movies that try and fail to do something new, I'd still rather watch a well done rehash than that
>>63810969
People who don't like midichlorians are stupid manchildren who want to put themselves in the role of hero instead of watching the fucking story play out and enjoying the complicated plot.
You're the fuckers who skip through dialog in video games because you just want to play. Fucking plebs through and through.
Are you fucking kidding me? The prequels were a joke. The 3 of them had some of the worst dialogue in any high budget movies I've ever seen. It felt like the movie was mainly aimed at kids yet it was filled with shit that bores kids to death, like the romance subplot and politics. Yet adults would see through how terribly written it all was, so it was aimed at nobody.
It also had Jar Jar, the entirity of Attack of the Clones (what a fucking terrible film from start to finish) and cgi that looked shit even for its time. And there was cgi being used for almost everything, despite not needing to.
The lightsaber battles were fucking awful too, they looked incredibly fake, it was like star wars reimagined as an anime.
>>63813380
WHY DO THEY ONLY HAVE 10 X WINGS?!
WHY DO THEY SEND 10 X WINGS TO FIGHT A HUGE DEATH STAR.
>>63813308
I uh, like the pt soundtrack more than the ot one honestly.
>>63813245
The prequel fights are overly choreographed.
They feel more like dancers than warriors.
>>63813252
>jedis fighting on hovering lava buckets
>plausible
>>63813350
Thanks, doc
Oh my lord... the fucking guppies in this thread is astounding. Stop taking the bait, kids, seriously. Damn.
http://strawpoll.me/6305828
http://strawpoll.me/6305828
http://strawpoll.me/6305828
http://strawpoll.me/6305828
Let's solve this fucking question once and for all.
>>63813409
Why didn't they evacuate the base instead of going on a suicide mission with 10 fighters?
>>63813338
Hosnian Prime.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hosnian_Prime
Not sure why we're even supposed to care about them or who the hell they are or why they moved the seat of the galaxy from Coruscant.
>>63813337
shit meme shit poster
>>63813342
But basically all those are one scene. I wouldn't sit through 3 hours for on scene.
TFA may not have peaks but it doesn't have valleys either. It's an evenly paced film that keeps things moving along and everything is interesting enough. I liked it more the second time.
>>63813444
Chewbacca hair not grey why?
>midichlorians
>cgi up the ass
>retarded romance
>jar fucking jar
>only decent villain killed in the first movie after barely having any scenes
>dialogue by george that he probably wrote while taking a dump
>better than anything
ep3 had some cool action scenes ill give you that
still far below ep7, and the first 2 are literally unwatchable tier
>>63813439
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>>63810354
>A blatantly obvious troll thread that a child could see was bait gets 220+ replies
JUST
>>63813375
Those were the best moments in an overly long fight between characters we are not invested in.
>>63813396
And yet you remember them, you remember them because they were so awful. You can laugh at the awful parts, while cringing at the other awful parts. Parts so bad they stayed with you all this time. TFA was just fucking dull, it was flat, sterile, just a reproduction of a movie with a more diverse cast. It doesn't have any of the lasting entertainment value and originality that the prequels brought.
>>63813365
>more Rebel planets getting "destroyed"
>>63813409
That's how its always been done. 9 to fake out Vader, 1 to stick it in their pooper.
>>63813482
>even replies to it
Hello reddit!
>>63813489
OP here, didn't intend the thread as a troll but I'm genuinely surprised I got this many replies.
>>63813388
I'll get a lot of shit for this, but I'm a huge fan of the world and lore of Star Wars, as well as the extended universe. While the prequels were terrible as movies, they introduced a lot of new worlds, concepts, bits of lore, characters. They expanded the world of Star Wars so much, adding a lot of material for other writers to work with. So far TFA has given us nothing new, being a rehash of ANH, and taken away extended universe.
It's a passable movie, but it shits on everything Star Wars for me. It also shits on the ending of OT. In the end Luke achieved nothing. It all lead to nothing, Anakin being the Chosen One lead to nothing. It's as if nothing happened at all after RotJ, just names changed.
>>63813394
LIDF is out in full force. :^)
Wow, this thread. Is reddit down right now?
>>63813522
>uses the Hello Reddit meme
Hello Reddit!
>>63813489
>>63813525
The reason this thread got so many replies is that VII is just bad enough that people have to take the idea seriously. And that's terrible.
>>63813535
thats why TFA is good, it undid all the shit that george lucas squirted on the side of his toilet bowl
>>63810442
>16th July, 1999
>Phantom Menace releases, STAR WARS IS BACK
This is prequels all over again, wait until episode IX drops & the shill machine goes into overdrive, 5 years after "THIS WAS WORSE THAN THE PREQUELS!"
The irony is that everyone seems to think people are indoctrinated by "4chan logic" or just hate everything they see, when they themselves are too busy lapping up the India-tier curry-shit reviews that every review site spews out.
This movie is Star Trek reboot tier, it was a rehash pile of shit that relied on shock factor instead of actually having a mysterious plot or characters, more proof Goy Goy Abrams is a hack.
