I've lost all hope in the intelligence of general audiences everywhere. My god, what happened to people and taste. How does Disney do it? It's like people are programmed to worship this shit.
>>63805609
it's normies
they literally just like whatever they're supposed to. they also can't stand ideas/people that aren't visibly shallow and doesn't fit in media approved boxes. they can only think about what's right in front of them. like a dumb dog who thinks the ball disappeared after you put it behind your back. I can see why they keep making stupid decisions, get knocked up, waste time at parties and do drugs. they don't have introspection or empathy whatsoever
>>63805609
Jews
>>63805854
they should make a flick about this people
>>63805854
is this you? your looks a little outdated from the current pop style kid
That's what happens when you spend billions on marketing.
>>63805609
Normalfaggots fuel everything that is evil in the world and there's too many to stop. Enjoy what you like and don't look forward to anything in the future.
I'm going to play TIE Fighter with my joystick now, JJ Abrams can't ruin that.
It's funny how everybody with half a brain is saying exactly what I see here.
I asked my brother about Star Wars and this is what he said: "it's pure marketing and kind of scary how they have such control over people".
>>63805609
>My god, what happened to people and taste.
Was there ever a time where the majority of people didn't prefer escapist nonsense? Stop glorifying the past
it's called capitalism sir
>>63805609
Don't take everything too seriously. It's just fun flick, nothing else. It's not supposed to be art, it's not supposed to be deep and it's not supposed to be intellectual. It's something you go watch with your friends, turn your brain off, enjoy the amounts of nostalgia and just have fun. Nothing more. And seeing it costs like less 0,5% of your monthly wage. So why not just watch it then?
>>63806387
nice meme, prettyboy
>>63805609
Go see Star Wars: The Force Awakens™ four more times this weekend goy.
Don't forget to go to the Disney Store and buy your limited edition Captain Phasma™ die cast figure. She's a very strong, cool and mysterious character that you won't want to miss.
>>63806162
People used to have some standards though. See classic Hollywood. Hell, those intellectual 19th century novels were entertainment back then. Entertainment started to become dumber after Reagan and the neocons get rid of the anti-monopoly laws on mass media
>>63806501
>after Reagan and the neocons get rid of the anti-monopoly laws on mass media
Really? I thought it was afterStar Wars came out.
It's biological. Most humans have the same hardware with similar programming. They just figure out what appeals to most people. To deny you're any different is to put yourself on pedestal.
>>63805609
Just wait a year and then ask again.
I found the media hype glow from the prequels faded rather quickly and millennials are bad at remembering why they like shit in the first place.
>>63806501
>19th century novels were entertainment
Not really. Mostly dime novels were then.
After that were the pulps. so you're still imagining a time that did not exist.
>>63806501
> Entertainment started to become dumber after Reagan
Blaxploitation and the rise and fall of slasher movies happened way before then.
>>63806528
History tend to be oversimplified by school books but actually changes happen for a series of events concentrated on a few years, it's not a single event.
>>63805609
Starwars ingratiated itself in the american psyche and rest of the world at the right time.
No worries, it will lose its cultural significance if they keep with their plan to keep pumping these movies out.
Lucas giving a few years of a breather between movies is going to be long gone.
>>63806501
Its mind boggling how dumbed down everything is nowadays. I look at movies from the 70s and they actually have rational characters with thought provoking plots. Try to get any one of your friends to sit and watch a movie from the 60s or 70s and I guarantee they will get bored within 5 minutes.
>TL;DR normies have massive ADHD
>>63806601
Oh and I forgot to add the reason for popular entertainment of dime novels, penny dreadfuls and pulp was because Books were a LUXURY item, and the only affordable ones to the masses were said items that were cheaply produced.
>>63805818
>it's normies
I don't know about that
The ones here are all calling it disappointing
>>63806606
Blaxploitation and slasher movies had a very low budget and they were showed on small theaters and auto-cinemas, they weren't global events of 200 million dollars like the modern blockbusters. In fact, the low budget allowed blaxploitation and slashers to do stuff the mainstream media couldn't do
>>63806730
Novels were published by chapters on newspapers and they could run for years
>>63806501
>Classic hollywood
>standards
Please, they cranked as much empty bullshit then as they do today. You're naive if you think Gone With the Wind or 12 Angry Men were the standards of quality, and not literal filler movies made to play at any theater just to have something to play
>Hell, those intellectual 19th century novels were entertainment back then
Dime novels about western adventures were popular, not Crime and Punishment. You also need to consider how low literacy rates were, and if "serious" books were read as entertainment its largely because the eductaed classes knew how to read and had the time/money too
>>63805904
*25million not a lot compared to many other films
>>63805818
As a former drug user and current alcoholic, I take offense to your implying that "normies" approve of such things; if that were true, I would not be a social pariah today. I am a lonely social outcast, left behind by all my former peers. Hardly a "normie". And I didn't like the new Star Wars either.
>>63806811
>25
>an estimated budget of $200 million ($423 million including marketing, printing and advertising costs, and making and distribution of home videos, along with an additonal $22.3 million spent on TV trailers and a further $51.4 million spent on ancillary products such as video games, action figures and costumes),
>>63805973
>knightriders
>>63806162
>implying
movies in the past didn't have instantaneous feedback and identity politics to pander to. they can actually tell a unique honest story by the filmmakers.
that's why everything is so bland. a movie never just a director's idea anymore (yeah I know its not just the director who writes shit you get the point)
>>63806387
>It's not supposed to be art, it's not supposed to be deep and it's not supposed to be intellectual.
Tell that to the people who think Star Wars is the best thing ever.
>>63806786
>Please, they cranked as much empty bullshit then as they do today
100 percent spot on!
>the only people who like the movie are girls and chads who never saw the OT in their childhood
Every other starwars nerd I know says its mediocre or even a couple chads who love Star Wars think episode 3 was better.
B-b-b-b-ut MUH CHILDHOOD
George Lucas fucking ruined it with prequels, I grew up with Han and Luke and Leia and he fucking ruined it and Vader by turning him fucking Christian Haydenson. Bobba Feet was literally badest ass and they just killed him by accident, lmao. Jar Jar was literally worst thing ever.
Disney is bringing it all back with style and class, we waited for a real new Star Wars for over 40 years and disney delivered. Muh magick of cinema, pupets are the best.
>>63805609
>stop liking what I don't like
Go discuss Tarantino kuk films on TV Tropes, you faggot.
>>63806501
Reminder that Charles Dickens was considered the pleb author of his day.
>>63806387
>normie: the feature length post
>>63807108
>ignoring infinite streams of trash sci-fi and spaghetti westerns, among other things
>muh golden age
>>63806501
How about we just write it up to the Rock 'n' Roll generation?
That is where the massive disconnect between generations began. Where people came up with the idea that it's absolutely fine that the next generation wants to deal with the world in completely differnt ways compared to their parents, creating generational gaps in pop culture meaning since each generation had interests in different things compared to the last, no one got a chance to pass any wisdom on regarding a common interest, and thus castrating future generations' capability to see fiction in the same complex light as was slowly developed by each generation building upon the previous.
>>63806638
Wow, that's deep. You should confer with the intellectuals in /his/.
>>63807266
>stop disliking what I like
Go discuss your garbage on /b /, you fucking /r/movies reject
>>63806705
>Try to get any one of your friends
>Having friends
Who's the normie now?
>>63807604
Look at me! I'm mentally retarded virgin, who has no friends! I'm so much above you!
star wars was all about muh effects.
half the popular characters in the original trilogy could barely talk and the finale is a fucking showdown with teddy bears.
>>63807727
I didn't see the OT until I was an adult and the dialogue and acting is pretty fucking bad in those movies, I was kind of suprised consdiering how revered they are. Return Of The Jedi was also a pretty shiity movie, Episode 3 is better than it.
>>63807428
Yes, there was always trash but great movies could do well financially. Look at Gone with the Wind, Giant, The Godfather, etc.
Now the only movies that do well financially are generic, paper-thin tripe that capitalizes on the ADHD of people now: i.e. superhero movies, Bayformers, and Disney cartoons. Originality is no longer valued.
>>63805818
>>63805973
>>63806245
>>63806387
>>63806478
Indeed it's because of this
bane?
>>63808126
Middlebrow drama for adults has largely moved to television.
>>63809335
THIS. Anything remotely interesting, risky or novel is on TV nowadays
>>63806811
You honestly think they had this kind of coverage, including some 12 TV spots and three trailers plus international trailers, plus branding so much shit, for 25 mil? Are you fucking high?
TRAITOOOORRRRR
>>63805609
>My god, what happened to people and taste
Nothing. You are romanticizing about the past you didn't even get to experience. The majority of the population has been consuming pulp since time immemorial and it's not about to change now that tool like viral marketing and social media exist.
>>63805609
this isn't new. it's just that big studios are more invested in big dumb tentpole sequels now more than ever.
>>63805818
>Normies
>creating a word for normal people so weirdos can feel better about being social outcasts
Ugh Normies and their healthy relationships, showering, and ability to act like human beings... ammirite guys?
G-guys?
>>63808126
Fantastic 4 kind of shits on that theory.
Infantilism, same reason capeshit is so popular
>>63809449
>anything remotely interesting, risky or novel is on TV nowadays
TV is for bread and circus children
>>63806162
Shakespeare was for everyone, and the same is true of classic Hollywood adaptations of the great novels.
Lol OP, I remember I had the EXACT same thought when Avatar came out, but now I've gotten a bit older and have more pity on the pleb masses, and have come to appreciate blockbusters. You will too in time.
