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TRAITOR
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>>63794620
Is the the new Bobba Fett?
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>>63794660

No, that's Phasma. This guy actually amounted to something.
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I was not big on this scene. I thought the tonfa-style wahteveritwas was clunky.
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>>63794620
This guy did more than Brienne of Tarth, what the fuck?! She didn't even take off her fucking helmet, why cast her at that point?
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>>63794620
Oh no! A Stormtrooper with a melee weapon specifically designed to counter lightsabers even though there are only two known users of lightsabers right now and one of them is on my side and the other one is hopelessly out of the league of any stormtrooper! Oh no!

I liked the fight, but how can you justify the stormtrooper having this weapon? Did it somehow fulfill another purpose and just coincidentally was useful against lightsabers?
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>>63794620

First Order Riot Control

FORC

He was the one awakened!
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I would be hella mad too if one of my brotroopers became traitor scum.
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>>63794793
Yeah he really doesn't like traitors so he asked Kylo Edge for one of the only Lightsaber resistant weapons in the entire galaxy
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>>63794826
You mean First Order Riot Control Enforcer.
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>>63794620
What did he mean by this?
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>>63794870
potpourri
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>>63794793
Maybe he uses it as a sparring partner for Kylo Ren on their downtime.
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>>63794793
They send him in to bullyKylo anytime his autistic spergeout tantrums get too annoying.
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>>63794888
He didn't say "Traitor" he said "Trader" because he was mad at Finn for taking Poe's jacket and not giving anything back but couldn't remember the word "Thief" because he was so upset so all he could come up with was "Trader" lol he's so awkward
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why dont they just make their armor out of the material that can block a lightsaber.

why don't they make their armor out of material that protecets them from laser fire
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This scene was a guilty pleasure, sure it doesn't make sense, but goddamn did I love some random trooper putting every other main character too shame.
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>>63794959
Shit's expensive. Better blow all those resources at building an even more gigantic Deathstar.
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>>63794620
What was his name?
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When is this based motherfucker getting a spinoff
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the absolutely most based character in all 7 movies

> traitorous scum shows up with ancient lightsaber that hasn't been seen in 30 years
> can cut through anything like hot butter
> stormtroopers never last a second vs a lightsaber
> give ZERO fucks and immediately bum rush him
> fight him and woop the shit out of him taking next to no damage
> only person who takes you out is han solo himself
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>>63795011
He'll get his own trilogy.
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>>63795002
FN-420
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>>63795064
No you idiot it was FN-5-7
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>Some random stormtrooper is better at melee combat than Kylo.
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>>63795002
TRAITOR trooper, dude has his own figure
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>>63794793
Well, it's clearly a melee weapon that packs one hell of a punch (as we see Finn fly backwards when he's hit). No doubt the Stormtroopers use them to beat up and intimidate locals, especially big alien types.
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So this guy is the newest meme?
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>>63795117
but why is it lightsaber proof, if there's no fucking jedi around why would it have that feature?
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>>63794702
FUCKING KEK
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>>63795040
I love the idea that instead of getting terrified at seeing a former comrade ruthlessly kill a fellow brother with an iconic weapon of death he got livid. He even had the audacity to drop his weapon and fight him at his own game. It's absurd how large a pair this random storm trooper had.
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I liked this scene, tbqh. Made the Empire seem more human.
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Dat flamethrower trooper in the beginning of the movie tho

>WWHOOOOSSHH BURN REBEL SCUM
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>>63795117
Also, the gravity on the planet might be less than on earth, so a punch will make them fly farther.
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>>63794702
I like you
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>>63795116
Here's a little original concept art for you all. No doubt this scene was an homage to Lucas' original concept.
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>>63794620
>TRAEYH-TORE!

I hope Disney's got a backstory for this guy in their Neo-EU. What a legend.
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>>63795170
Kylo's whole goal is the extermination of all Jedi. Maybe he gives one guy a lightsaber proof stun baton per squadron just in case.
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>>63795231
This is the same guy that Rey did the Jedi Mind trick shit on, he not only fights a guy with a lightsaber head on but he survies a shot to the heart from Han Solo himself.Traitor Trooper is a legend.
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>>63795170
Maybe they just made it out of Mandalorian Iron to make it incredibly resilient I dunno whatever it's a space opera for children and man-children
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>>63795231
>a cool guy like Tonfa Trooper will never be the main character in a SW movie
JUST
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>>63795276
holy shit fag just stop already.
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anyone else think he would be upset to know we called him Traitor Trooper? I don't want to dishonor his legacy, he's not a traitor after all
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>>63795170
There's a lot of energy-field type stuff around. It may be that the ST either knew, or had a hunch that his weapon would be a match for it. He didn't necessarily have to know what a lightsaber was, or what its capabilities were. He may have been just "An energy weapon? I'll take down that traitor with MY energy weapon and teach him a lesson". etc. etc.
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I honestly don't know why they didn't have Captain Phasma do the TRAITOR bit instead of a rando Storm Trooper, but oh well, he's a cool guy.
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>>63795305
Nah dude mind-tricked guy was Daniel Craig bro
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>>63795231
>See the first thing to resemble a Jedi in like 3 decades
>Immediately takes him on in honorable 1 on 1 combat despite the fact that he's a fucking stormtrooper

GOAT
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>>63795170
why isn't the armor made of this?
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>>63794620
>Anti-lightsaber electrostaff

That's the one thing this movie took from the Prequels, I guess, unless it first appeared in some obscure EU shit like the idea for Kylo Ren's lightsaber.
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>>63795305
If that's the case, then I have another surprise for you:
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/dec/18/daniel-craig-stormtrooper-cameo-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens-revealed
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>>63795305
I want this character to be hand selected by kylo to become his lieutenant when he gets those knights we see in rey's vision.
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>>63794620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZrAYxWPN6c
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>>63794620
a glib facsimile
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>>63795385
I think Disney knew that Traitor trooper is God Tier, he got his own fucking toy
>>63795369
Cool is an understatement
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>>63794793
>not training your military in all forms of combat
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>>63795397
They make the armor out of plastic because they need to save money if they want to keep making deathstars.
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>>63795305
Calling it now, this is Daniel Craig storm trooper and is returning in the sequels
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>>63795581
We don't train Marines to counter Phalanx formation. Just don't make no sense.
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>>63795490
>Kylo and Knights of Ren confront Rey and Luke
>Finn and Chewie are running to reach them and help
>A knight blocks the way, instead of a Saber or sword he pulls out a StormTrooper stun baton
>WE AREN'T DONE YET.... TRAITORRRR
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>>63794620
TORETTO
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>>63794793
It was a Jedi that pretty much fucked up the hierarchy of the Empire. Yeah sure, the Rebels did a massive upset at the Battle of Endor but fuck, a Jedi came in imprisoned, caused one of the Emperor's confidantes to BETRAY him and who then subsequently died by wounds sustained during that battle. At least the Empire infrastructure would have stayed intact had the Emperor survived but one measly barely-trained Jedi fucked all of that up.

Now pretend to be a random stormtrooper and you heard all of that by hearsay rumors and that is one SERIOUSLY one fucked up individual that you really didn't want to fuck with.
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He's cool, but he could have easily just shot Finn.
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>>63795638
Yeah, but we do train them to use bayonets. Same principle.
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>>63795703
RESISTANCE CAME TO STARKILLER BASE
DISRESPECTED MY COMMANDER
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>>63795721
finn would have blocked it with the light saver
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>>63795369
They're relying on Phasma becoming popular for doing nothing but looking cool, Traitor has to become popular by being based as fuck
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>>63795116
>TRAITOR trooper
no
that implies that he is the traitor, which he isn't
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>>63795721
see>>63795385
Traitor Trooper could have just killed him there but like the badass he 1v1s a dude with a Lightsaber, a mystical weapon only Jedi and Sith ever use.
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>>63795733
Training someone to kill even when their weapon runs out of bullets is different from providing them with a weapon to counter a weapon which is almost never encountered on the battlefield. It's not the same. Stop. Leave me alone. Don't look at me I'm ugly!!!!
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>>63795305
Those are two different troopers
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>>63795775
Finn isn't a Jedi, he's just a nobody whos wielding a light saber for the very first time.
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>>63795281
>didn't refer Finn as traitor
>instead his battle cry is his own name
>TRAEYH-TORE!
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>>63795305
could someone please make a photoshop where kylo ren is sucking this guys dick
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>>63795721
>Shooting the guy who betrayed you instead of besting him in combat and letting him know that you're the man better man
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>>63795791
Phasma is dead I hope
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>>63795831
Daniel is Traitor Trooper, you think some random no name could've pulled off that body Language and voice? His performance is both these scenes was Oscar worthy.
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>>63795721
And given the TRAITOR a regular death? Nah man, at that moment he was infused with the righteous fury of Emperor Palpatine. He knew that the only way to make amends for this man was to beat him to death through martial combat. If not for Shoots First Solo, he would have made honored the ancient spirits.
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>>63795879
Perhaps that's why you shoot a traitor before hitting him with your baton.
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>>63795936
Nope. She's confirmed for signing on for VIII
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>>63795939
That's why I said they're different. The voices of the guy in the interrogation room and the TRAITOR guy are different
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Im convinced that this is the stormtrooper played by tom cruise
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Really glad JJ made the post credit scene pic related but with TRAITOR trooper getting a medal from Kylo Ren
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>>63795305
He was a good friend.
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>>63795954
>mfw Traitor Trooper channeled Sheev's force power to become even more of a legend
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>>63796004
kek, pause, then a slightly louder kek
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>>63795960
Oh shit, well then.
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Do they not have places to discuss this movie on reddit?
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>>63795848
>Luke, did I ever tell you about Traeyh-Tore?
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>>63795791
Phasma is a fucking joke. I'm going to let down the sheilds willingly so I don't get thrown in the trash compacter.
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>>63795995
Daniel changed his accent for the scene, Traitor Trooper is a high value target to the resistance and cant be recognized or he'd be in even more danger.
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>>63796004
wait, it did have a post credit scene?

fuck this shit
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Why do people want a name, face, and backstory for this guy? That's some Wookiepedia shit. I like that he's just a rank and file trooper going above and beyond the call of duty. That your average Stormtrooper is actually cool now and not bumping into doorways and missing all their shots. I doubt they intended for one of the bad guys to become this sympathetic either. He got toys because he's part of a new design of Stormtrooper, and they made a new design to make toys.
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>>63796082
you're just reaching now mate
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>>63795797
Yeah, but all that badassness is immediately irrelevant considering hes just a random stormtrooper that just ended up dead anyway.

I mean, the entire sequence then is just all flashing lights and no substance considering that at no point again do we see that weapon again. It's not like that gut set up that stormtroopers would now use that weapon, just that he used it. And since he's just a random guy then really what was the point in giving him such a powerful weapon?

Even in the prequels, Grievous droid bodyguards wielded those electric staffs. It's not like a droid just randomly pulled a staff in the middle of the battle, it made sense that Griveous bodyguards would be equipped with weapons that could counter Jedi. It makes no sense that this random dude just happens to have it.
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Haven't seen the movie yet, does this trooper survive?
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>>63796103
An average Stormtrooper going above and beyond the call of duty is more compelling than every shitty character JJ wrote in this movie so naturally people would want to see more of him and what makes him such a badass
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>>63796087
yeah did you not stay after? We see Kylo in the Forrest accepting death and hurting from the battle with Rey with the Planet about to be destroyed and suddenly his shuttle shows up, inside are Hux, Phasma covered in trash, and Traitor Trooper himself. He jumps off the ships ramp, picks up kylo and returns to the ship as the Planet is fucking exploding.
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>>63794702
who was he? the actor behind this stormtrooper, i really wanna know.
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>>63796111
He's part of a riot unit in the First Order.
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>>63796103
He was a child soldier like Finn, who knew him through training. He'll get a promotion next movie, and will be Finn's arch nemesis throughout the trilogy.
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>>63796103
Traeyh-Tore is the stolen baby from windu hence his badass attitude and skills with a melee weapon
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Tray-Tor was a good friend
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>>63796167
Yeah Han shoots him and he lives, he then escapes StarKiller base in the post credits scene
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>>63796103
>The worst thing stormtroopers did in the original trilogy was kill two farmers off screen
>Troopers now murder entire villages worth of innocent civilians, NOPE the fuck off when Kylo Ren is in a bad mood, show emotion when they die, cheer and salute when 5 populated planets get blown up, and challenge individuals who wield lightsabers to one on one combat.
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>>63796117
Nope. RIP
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>>63796103
He's the most competent and battle capable stormtrooper we've ever seen.
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Maybe he was a leftover clone who was 2 days from retirement.
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Does anyone have a webm of the fight?
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>>63796216
this!
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>>63795397
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>>63796103
This isn't just some random fucking trooper ok, after seeing his entire Squad killed right in front of him by X-wings he confronts Finn, his friend since birth. Anger and a feeling of Patriotism towards the force anger Overcomes Traitor Trooper and he Challenges his former friend to a duel to the death. He knew the risks and was a hero.
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>>63794702
Phasma has the shiny armour and cape you fucknut
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>>63794620
Did he died??
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he has strong thighs he's my fav trooper ever
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>>63796187
Oh. I guess I wasn't paying attention then.

Still, it kinda undermines the idea that ST now have such weapons when just one guy in the entire movie uses it. It makes me think that they designed the weapon just for that particular scene.
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>>63796338
Lrn 2 reading comprehension you stupid shit
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>>63796367
They designed it specifically for him so he could personally exact vengeance on Finn for being a traitor
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I think for the next episodes... They should just make the Storm Troopers into the Extacles.

I'd watch the shit out of it
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>>63796243
>innocent civilians
They were rebellion scum
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>>63795848
Does that mean that Sheev was actually the Tusken Raider URoRRuR'R'R all along?
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>>63795954
>>63796025
He should've done the spin. It's a good trick.
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>>63796087
>>63796004
dnt fk with me
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>>63794620
>It's treason then...
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>>63795420
>When the Bond actor was asked about his rumoured cameo in July, Craig responded: “Why would I ever bother doing something like that? Fucking hell! Pffft. Play an extra in another movie.” Lee alleges now that the British actor lied to him, but it appears, rather, that a certain style of British humour may have been in play.
Why can't Americans keep up with British banter?
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>>63796448
see>>63796180
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>>63796500
So witty, the Brits. We'll never be able to compete.
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>>63796367
It wasn't well explained to be honest. They are based on todays riot units basically.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/first-order-riot-control-stormtroopers
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>>63794793
Wouldn't it be a good idea to train your soldiers to combat Jedi in the case they make a come back?
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>>63796345
Watch the after credits scene
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>>63796448
you walked out too soon m8
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AAAARRGGHHH HE'S THE TRAITOR
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>Finn escapes White indoctrination and rebels
>Ben is subdued by it and in the end commit atrocities in it's name

Not even clever
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>>63794620
why the fuck couldn't Finn fight Captain Phasma instead?

holy shit, useless ass chrome bitch.
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>>63794870
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>>63796564
>Wouldn't it be a good idea to train your soldiers to combat macedonian phalanxes in the case alexander makes a come back?

It's a waste of time and money
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>>63796605
>tfw this trooper heard the echoing voice of Sheev Palpatine from beyond screaming HE'S A TRAITOR which inspired him to fight like a man
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>>63796631
Who fucking cares about Phasma
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>>63796448
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>>63796674
nobody, because they made a potentially cool character and chucked it in the garbage.
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>>63796631
Traitor is far more competent, he is basically confirmed to become Finns arch nemesis throughout the films. Phasma is just some SJW character shoved in by JJ to appeal to their audience. Traitor Trooper is a monument to duty and heroism
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>>63796705
Yeah but we got a much cooler character instead
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>>63796657
Yeah, just challenge him in a drinking contest.
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>>63796657
stay salty, carthaginians
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>riot trooper savagely beats Finn to death
>movie abruptly ends
MOTY
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Shill, shill like you've never shilled before.
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I genuinely don't get it.

Empire was beaten after RoTJ, right? I mean, everyone celebrated, we've got New Republic.

When did First Order got so powerful that everyone once again got their "The Order cannot be beaten!".

It's been only 30 years, come on. How dumb can you be to let another Empire grow as strong as the previous one?

They didn't even explain where did they get all the firepower, all the labour, people, money, ships and shit.

It's as if Empire never left, really.
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>>63796811
>Two best characters in one pack
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Traitor Trooper is a good meme.
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>>63796183
Might have been Daniel Craig. He had a speaking part as a stormtrooper extra. Going to keep an ear out for his voice on my next watching.
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>>63796865
Craig was "I will tighten those restraints" trooper
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>>63794620
You know realise that Sheev is in this movie, reincarnated in the form of Stormtrooper.
>FINN, YOR A TRAAAIITAAAH!
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>blow up the Death Star
>they immediately build another one
>blow that one up
>they build a bigger one
Hey think of something new!
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>>63796865
>>63796865
No, he's the one that gets mind-tricked by Rey.
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>>63794620
>Stormtrooper: Traitor!
Finn: they're my friends
>Stormtrooper: I was your friend
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>>63796887
It's the same guy, only Daniel could play such a legend.
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>>63796822
Think of it this way, the empire was massive and mostly fell due to infighting. Had Palpatine survived, it is likely that the war would have been in a similiar place after the end of the battle of yavin. With the emperors death, planets and generals turned by the day and over 30 years a large portion of them were disorganized. The New Order is probably the remains of the empire that feel under a single powerful leader (Snoke) and has finally collected it's dispersed resources.
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>>63796938
no
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>>63796931
and he was a good friend
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>>63796931
You can really just feel the emotion in the scene, Traitor doesn't really wanna fight the man he has known since birth, but he has to stop this Resistance scum no matter the cost
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>>63796931
>YOU WERE MY BROTHER FINN, I LOVED YOU

what did he mean by this?
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>>63795681
Awesome, now I want this dude to randomly show up in every new Star Wars, beat Finn up a bunch, and get knocked down by a cheap shot from one of the other protagonists.
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>>63796853
>liking the ace pilot

he's like an unlikable han. he belongs in a marvel movie, not a star wars movie
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>>63796931
>IT'S OVER FINN I HAVE THE HIGHGROUND
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>>63796940
snoke was palpatines master. when palpatine betraayed him snoke just let him establish an empire for him
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>>63795064
DUDE
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>>63795040
Ren was gonna let daddy live until he remembered he kilt dat basedtrooper
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>>63797135
Finn you're Finnished
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What if this was supposed to be some non lethal sort of crowd control baton? To deal with riots and such. And due to the electric charge running through it, it was able to deflect lightsabers? Since their form is held together by a strong magnetic field.
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>>63797224
haha daddy killed rens inspirational figure
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>>63795791
honestly, I thought Phasma was super awesome...just like two lines in the entire movie, butthe way her voice was dripping with contempt for Finn and the other good guys...and how quickly she sold out pretty much the entire First Order to save her hide, while still acting like hot shit. So much character, I loved it. The low level baddies were pretty awesome in general, FORCE Trooper, Phasma, Hux...
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>>63796245
F
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>>63794793
> be a FO engineer
> oh fuck Kylo just tore up a whole room throwing a temper tantrum
> guess I gotta go fix that shit
> better make an anti saber weapon in case I'm in the mess hall and they run out of Kylo's tendies
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>>63794793
He was Finns best friend and knew that their paths would cross again after his betrayal, he had to be prepared
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>>63794620
Cole, is that you?
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>>63794793
They have an omnipotent Sith god on their side, he probably told them to be prepared.
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>>63797224

>killing your son's sparring partner for whom he had an unspoken but passionate bond with

You done fucked up, Han.
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>>63795791
Come on, that was just dumb blog writers hyping the character for no reason other than GoT and more females in movies. No one ever promised she'd be important.
It's just the same shit like Pacific Rim, when all the sperglords were complaining that the movie was ruined for them, because they somehow had convinced themselves that random supporting characters from posters would end up being the protagonists.
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>>63797224
Is that what Kylo was really crying about during the scene with Han, he was so sad over Traitor Troopers death.
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>>63795117
>>63795357
You, I like you.

Are you the same dude? Either way, post more, logic is a rare quality on /tv/ and we need people to BTFO badposters andf trolls on the regular. You know, it's sanitary to keep the board clean.
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>>63796058
TR-80
TEE ARR ATE OH
TR-ATE-OH
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>>63795791
Worked for Boba. Also I can't argue that she doesn't look the coolest. Way cooler than Kylo Ren. Snoke was a dissapointment.
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>>63796822
Who had the fucking bright idea to build ANOTHER death star? Last two got blown up by rebel scum, WHERE DO THEY GET RECRUITS AND FINANCING FOR THIS SHIT?

Also
>the Republic Exists
Then why they fuck is everyone calling themselves "Resistance" or some variation of "Rebellion"? Couldn't the New Republic have used its connections to build a clone army to fight the stormtroopers, or better yet, rescind Order 66 since the stormtroopers are all brainless idiots like always. SO MANY PLOT HOLES.

Also Based Finn is Mace Windus bastard son. They better bring back the purple lightsaber.
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>>63796103
I don't wanna know anything about this guy, I just won't him to randomly pop up around the Star Wars Universe and beat people up (announced by an overly dramatic "TRRRRAAITOOOR!", possibly from off screen)
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>>63797600
>WHERE DO THEY GET RECRUITS AND FINANCING FOR THIS SHIT?

Well, if the First Order still owns half the galaxy, it shouldn't be too hard to find the resources
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To anyone unsure, the toy of that guy is listed as "Riot Control Stormtrooper." That's what the baton is for, it's not a special anti-Jedi weapon.
Coincidentally this makes him even more ballsy, because he decided to go after a guy with a lightsaber with just his shitty riot control gear.
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All of you were making fun of this guy a few days ago

"Spinning that's a good trick!"
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>>63796180
damn, not lying, I would actually be very okay with this
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>>63797665
I didn't think that he would actually kick Finn's ass
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>>63797624
So you want him to become a meme?
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>>63796931
This is my biggest problem with Finn desu.
Sure he might hate the first order for taking him away from his family as a child, but he has absolutely no quarrel whatsoever to turn on his once fellow stormtroopers and slaughter them
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>>63796905
this desu

They got to come up with a better "super powerful evil bad guy base" trope before they run this shit into the ground even harder. Transforming a planet into a station makes logistical sense, but still reeks of lack of creativity.

>What if...
>Guys
>What if this time
>Guys come on
>What if we build TWO Death Stars
>Guys
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>>63797665
well, to be fair. Spinning is a good trick
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>>63796243
Stormtroopers were great in this, brainwashed Space Nazi Child Soldiers but still human beings with emotions and personalities. And occasionally hilarious.
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>>63797855
ITS BECAUSE THEY TREATED HIM LIKE SHIT FOR BEING BLACK!
DO YOU NOT GET THAT STORMTROOPERS ARE THE KKK ANF FINN WAS A SLAVE?
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>>63796931

>ARRGHHH I HATE YOU! GIVE MY SON MY LIGHTSABER WHEN HE'S OLD ENOUGH!
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>>63797911
that's a great scene
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>>63795681
this actually needs to happen
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>>63796443
dude, did you even watch the movie? he was spinning that baton like crazy, and it was SUPER EFFECTIVE! he just got shot from behind!
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>>63797911
>those stormtroopers that go back the way they came when they hear Ren being angsty
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Is Darth Traitor the best character in the new movies?
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>>63794793
Bro, Luke was training new Jedi years ago before that got fucked up. For all the First Order knew, Luke had continued doing it and was getting ready to take them down.

Makes sense that they'd invest in Lightsaber resistant weaponry.
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Alright lads let's settle this.

Based Trooper gave Fin a more one sided beatdown than an injured Kuckyo Ren could.

Based Trooper didn't even get touched while an injured Kuckyo Ren did.

Therefore if we even it out, technically Based Trooper > Kuckyo Ren.
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>>63798133
that's not Poe, Finn, Maz, or Hux
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>>63798169
A lot of people are better at things than Ben so yeah, no shit
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I must be losing my mind because I thought it was Kylo Ren that yelled out, "TRAITOR" to Finn in the forest at the end. I thought the Melee Trooper didn't even say anything.
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>>63797855
Finn realized doing his first battle that the first order is wrong and killing innocents. But it is strange that he's showing concern over his death trooper comrade in that scene, but has no problems killing them later.
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>>63797911
>>63798027

"Could everyone who dies to a sith lightsaber sit on the right side please?"
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>>63798220
They both did. Why Kylo Ren is so perturbed by Finn's actions in general remains to be seen however.
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>>63798220
Not sure if Kylo also calls him a traitor in the movie. I think he did.
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>>63796243
>innocent civilians
insurgents. they were insurgents.
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>>63794620
>tfw he was an old friend of Finn's, encouraging him to join a Stormtrooper platoon and move up from sanitation.
>Had faith that Finn would become a great soldier.
>And how does Finn repay him? By becoming a traitor.
>He has to destroy what he created.
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>>63796243
Anon please, these are not the storm troopers of the OT

Prequels
>storm troopers are clones

OT
>storm troopers are draft soldiers

TFA
>storm troopers are janissaries

Janissaries are infamous for having no mercy.

>>63798049
lel
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>>63798294
I would guess that the First Order instills loyalty in every member.

When Kylo confronts Finn, he sees him as a traitor of the dark side that was seduced by the light.
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>>63797580
>Snoke was a dissapointment.
GODDAMN RANDOM ASS CGI HARRY POTTER TIER GOLLUM MONSTER RUINED STAR WARS FOREVER.

Snoke better be the second coming of satan and the head Sithnigger of all Sithniggers cause SW has had its share of rando badguys with no real backstories (save Anakin/Vader and Palpatine). Not another Darth Maul/Greivous/Dooku bullshit sith "lord" I WANT SOME CONTINUTIY! I want my head bad dude to have a reason for being evil and enlisting some sperg who throws tantrums when he doesn't get his tendies.


Is Palpatine channeling his evil from beyond (like some noncanon EU implies)? Why isn't Leia a Jedi yet? Will Han appear as a force ghost for keks? WHAT DOES THIS ALL MEAN???
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>>63798403
I was excited that the big bad was actually a fucking alien for once instead of Palpatine and Vader at various points in their lives as has been the case in virtually every other movie in the series.

Too bad they did pretty much nothing with him in this first movie.
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>>63795241
Reason I bought my ticket for the premiere.
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>>63798609
>>63795241
the stormtrooper assault on the village was the best action sequence in the movie desu.
I fucking love me some stormtrooper combat.
I still want my Stormtrooper focused movie/tv show/video game
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>>63798146

>Makes sense that they'd invest in Lightsaber resistant weaponry.

Then give them light-sabre resistant armor or some shit.

All giving them a weapon like that is doing is trying to beat jedis at their own fucking game.
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>>63798707
>Resistant armor
It's clear that such a thing would be difficult. The weapons were resistant because they generated electricity. You can't just get sabre resistant armor, at least as far as we can tell. Those things can cut through steel with ease.

Now that shield the guy had, on the other hand. That might have also been lightsabre resistant if it could generate electricity like the riot shield.
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>>63796291
BUMP this guy

Anyone?
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>>63796440
If you're not shouting rhwahwhrhahrhawrg while spinning you should uninstall now
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So does anyone sign up for the First Order, or is it all brainwashing?

Deleted scenes aside, in A New Hope was Luke going to join the Empire? He says he hated the Empire, but who ran "the Academy"?
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>>63795170
It's not like Kylo, the guy they're working for carries a lightsaber around with him at all times, it's not like the whole point of this mission is to track down and capture/kill Luke, the last Jedi, who presumably has a LIGHTSABER Also, note that lightsabers aren't the bullshit from the prequels, they actually don't cut through steel or energy fields like butter this time, there's a lot more power and weight to them, as was in the original trilogy.
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>>63798856
It sounds like you're either part of Hux' program or you're a clone trooper.
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>>63798259
he was probably super confused during that first fight and when he saw a trooper die he couldn't help but attend to him. or maybe that particular trooper was a good friend of his.
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>>63798872
F
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>>63794793
I think this is the direct continuation of the "every Jedi uses a lightsaber" and the "lightsabers are common" memes Lucas started with the new trilogy.

The only reason they put lightsabers in this movie is because of Disney and most like Abrams.

Imagine a Star Wars movie without lightsabers and realize how little part they made in the original ones.
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>>63798872
F
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>TREAYH-TORRRR
PLEASE let this become the new meme
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>>63794620

this was the best scene because it was not expected. The whole segment just seemed like a completely different kind of SW film.
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>>63799026
WAKE ME UP
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Where were you when TRAITOR elevated filmmaking?
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>>63798527
Vader was a badass villian who with the prequels you got to see his origins after already knowing what he turns into. Palpatine manipulating him and the idea of the prophecy makes his evil even more real.

Kylo is basically Anakin in Ep III, but far weaker. He is definitely evil but still conflicted about it, hence Han's attempt to "turn him to the light side" screaming RotJ. It ruins the suspense entirely knowing he is just Snokes bitchboy who gets his ass kicked by his cousin in her first real duel. Yeah yeah, force is strong and shit, there is no reason why Snoke should have picked Kylo unless Snoke is even more powerful and pulling strings in the background, knowing full well the established trope of apprentice killing master and all. The literal space Nazi officers made better villains than either of the siths, if you even can call them that - where's the talk of "the power of the dark side" shit?

We will see, but definitely underwhelming. The prequels and original trilogy really spoiled our expectations for a new epic and climactic conflict, everything feels like a rehash but in different order.
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>rey wakes up in the middle of the night to see luke talking to himself
>"really Ben? There were order 66 cookies?"
>she falls back asleep
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Hey guys don't mind me I'll just be standing here doing nothing
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>>63798872
F
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>>63798872
F
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>>63799137
Don't make fun of the Trash Queen.

She collects all of your garbage and keeps your room tidy.
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>>63794793
>Did it somehow serve another purpose?
Yes.

That trooper is their Morale officer. That is the Morale Stick.
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>>63794620
Who was Trader?
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>>63799115
Kylo is clearly not a Sith. He is trying to infiltrate the Sith order. He was torn about killing Han because it was the kind of extreme action needed for him to be fully trained by Snoke.

Luke probably exiled himself because he sent Kylo in a suite mission. There is no indication Kylo destroyed the Jedi academy
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>>63798609
I totally understand that.
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>>63799116
>Luke, did I ever tell you about Order 66 Cookies? They are a brand of cookies made by Sheev's Bakery and Confections inc. to commemorate Empire Day, the anniversary of the day the Galactic Empre was formed which also happened to be the day your father slaughtered the Jedi (including the Younglings) and then I chopped his arms and legs off and left him to burn alive by a pool of lava just before you mother lost the will to live right after she gave birth to you and your sister. High in fiber and low in fat, they are a healthy treat, and a good snack. May I offer you a bag? A trooper by the name of Stormtrooper TK-555 was personally responsible for counting and packaging all the cookies. Instead of having him fight in any of the battles that were going on, they stationed him in an immense cookie factory where he all by himself counted and packaged all the aforementioned Order 66 cookies. Sheev eventually executed him because he found out that Stormtrooper TK-555 had eaten a few cookies on the sly, which was a big no-no. He was a good friend.
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>>63798872
F
u
c
k
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Please tell me Poe is int he next one
please
also I'm glad /tv/ is actually able to have non autistic hipster discussions about the movie, but I know it'll be over in a few days and we'll go back to shiposting
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>Previous installments shows years of practice and patience when studying to properly wield a lighstaber and use the force
>Rey picks up the saber and closes her eyes in 5 seconds
>On par with Kylo Ren and even outmatches him
>10/10 movie by tards

C'mon even I thought that was horse shit
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>>63794620
Poor quality meme desu senpai. 2/10
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Faceless rank-and-file soldiers who get badass moments above their normal cannon fodder duties are my fucking fetish, holy shit.

I need more movies with these things.
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>>63798686
I would love if in maybe Ep VIII or IX some of the troopers defect like Finn and become some new Army of the Republic. I really miss the old Clone Wars Trooper days, back when it was cool to root for the storm troopers. I like the characters on the Rebellion better but man is it hard to root for rebel scum after the whole Clone Wars series making them into humans.

Stormtroopers only became the bad guys when order 66 came around - they have no reason to be evil otherwise! Instead we get even more batshit insane literal space Nazis who actually believe in their cause. Come on, not all of them are evil, if Finn can defect so can others.
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>>63799284
I actually wish Finn was the protagonist because he has so much more room to grow.

He actually loses fights against Kylo and the Stormtrooper once he picks up a lightsaber instead of being the best at everything like Rey
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>>63799259
I need to see stuff about how rey processes Luke getting random EU exposition via obi-wan's invisible ghost from her perspective. Like how he'll just zone out every couple of hours and nod slowly.
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So do we actually see Storm Troopers get killed by a lightsaber in this movie?
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>>63799394
yes
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>>63799276
Not, if anything to say about it, I can.

Sorry, could not resist.

Really tho, you only need to start a good thread and ignore the trolls, people will come to discuss.
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