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>born into an age where hundreds of thousands of movies fit on a drive the size of a small brick
>people still hoard bookshelves worth of useless plastic
Literally give me one reason why everyone that hoards physical media isn't a total fucking moron.
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Well not that it matters to basement dwelling Virgns such as ourselves, but a recent study suggested that have books, films, music, etc around a child as they grow is a way to influence their learning, tastes, and sharing you beliefs and ideals with them. For example my dad had a shelf full of anatomy texts when I was a kid because he's a doctor, it got me interested in science now I am getting a degree in biology. I don't really know if this extends to films though
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You can get rid of the cases and put the Blu Ray discs into a 80+ dvd holder and then you get much HIGER quality video than streaming while not having shelfs full of shit
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>>63689657
what? you can still show kids those things on a fucking computer though
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>>63689521
but muh Criterions!
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>>63689521
>Hard drive dies
>lose all your movies

Yea I know you can just make backups but its nice to just have the disk so you can just play it from any dvd player.
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>>63689521
>>63689521
One of your movies in blue disc or whatever gets rekt, you're alright with the rest of them most likely.
Your drive gets fucked for some reason, and that happens a lot with complex electronics like a hard drive, and you've nothing left.
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>>63689726
redownload 2ez
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>>63689726
>what is flash memory
Sounds like you've got bigger issues, poorfag.
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>>63689744
See >>63689795
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>>63689521
>storing movies on local drives
>2015

You can just stream them now. You don't need to store them on your device anymore. You can either load them to a storage cloud for your personal viewing or stream them using anything from torrents to Netflix and Hulu.
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>>63689521
>born into an age where hundreds of thousands of movies fit on a drive the size of a small brick
>born into an age

I was born into the 1970s. I grew up with LPs, 8-track, and that newfangled satellite dishes with the scrambly porn.
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>>63689657

We'll films can fall under 'interests' and 'hobbies'. So it wouldn't be completely outlandish to think that somebody growing up around shelves full of vas tapes or did boxes would develop a heavy interest in the subject.

But to answer OP, I guess my reason for owning a couple dozen dvds/blurays and their boxes would be because of my style. Some people decorate their rooms with posters of their favorite bands or might have models of characters from their favorite video games placed about. This represents what they like and what they enjoy seeing. I personally enjoy my personal library of movies. I can organize them in anyway I please, choose one and use one of my several devices able to play them and then sit back on the couch and enjoy the ride.
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Laserdiscs were the most spectacular physical media from the packaging standpoint. Beautiful gatefolds, 12 inches covered with art, huge Japanese import box sets of shit like anime that could cost over $1000 for a long show. LD was the Rolls Royce of analog video.

I can't see the draw, collector wise, of digital discs. Cheap cases hollowed out by "Recycle" symbols and tissue paper thin inserts.
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>idiots storing their files on a hard drive and not in a cloud
Literally give me one reason why you would have an external hard drive.
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I gave up on that shit and just joined HDbits, PassThePorcorn, Awesome-HD.etc they have more content than one person could even hope to physically buy in a lifetime desu senpai
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>>63690065
LDs appealed to the aging LP crowd back then.
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>>63690065
>embarrassing fetishists
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>>63690065
Isn't there a T2 LD that has the original lighting? i.e. without the blue filter
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>>63689896
>he watches movies that are available on Netflix or Hulu
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>>63690072
>uploading anything into the botnet
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>>63690072
See >>63689795
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>>63689521
>born into an age where you can literally interact with thousand of people online without having to needlessly burn any calories

Give me one reason why anybody that leaves the house isn't a complete and utter moron
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>>63690383
You can keep your child porn on a botnet so the cops bust in on other people's houses and not yours, anon.
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>>63690320
I wouldn't doubt it: examples like the Matrix LD also have original color timings altered in subsequent releases.
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>>63690012
Same. Having movies on a computer is cool and whatnot but imo it doesnt beat having a physical copy. Maybe its because i grew up with vhs and dvds.

Also I usually buy special editions that come with extra content to justify having a physical copy.
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>>63689521
Because physical copies have sentimental value you fucking moron, use your brain

I bet you think It's retarded that a lot of people still prefer to read physical books aswell
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I don't even have a PC that accepts anything other than USB or eSATA and those are only used for my camera/sound equipment since I'm cheap and don't have bluetooth stuff.
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>>63690639
>physical copies have sentimental value
Does your toothbrush have sentimental value? Do you hesitate to buy new shoes because your old ones have sentimental value? How about your bed sheets?

And fucking right there's no good reason to read a physical book. Why would you voluntarily accumulate all that unnecessary clutter?
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>>63690788
>Comparing Tooth brushes, shoes and bed sheets to a form of entertainment and [TRIGGER WARNING] art

>And fucking right there's no good reason to read a physical book. Why would you voluntarily accumulate all that unnecessary clutter?

Because holding a book and seeing books in a bookshelf is much more satisfying than reading from a tablet and having no physical collection you fucking cuck
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I like when people pretend to care what I do.

Makes me feel like a successful troll while expending zero effort.
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>>63690788
>there's no good reason to read a physical book
Eyestrain?
Taking pleasure in the tactile experience?
Having something that can't be arbitrarily erased by Big Brother (don't laugh, it's happened with kindle, so your copies better be DRM free PDFs or such)?
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>>63690845
>hoarding
>ever
>reading off of a tablet
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>>63690845
art =/= an object for fetishists which is what "collectors" are
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>>63690908
>Taking pleasure in the tactile experience?

Disgusting.
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>>63690845
Thanks for the trigger warning anon
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>>63689521
and what exactly would you use all this suddenly available space for?
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>>63689521

People who collect dvds and cds are dumb.
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>>63690908
>eyestrain
E-ink is literally exactly the same as a printed page.
>tactile experience
Nice meme.
>arbitrarily erased by Big Brother
>owning an e-reader that connects to the Internet
>storing books in proprietary formats
What the fuck is wrong with this board?
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>>63690965
dildos
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>>63690965
Nothing. Why would you arbitrarily clutter your space with useless, cumbersome possessions?
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>>63690948
I'm guessing this is what your minimalist ideal world would look like, with nothing but an info screen for human data input.
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>>63691072
I'm guessing you only think in extremes.
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>>63691056
because I like owning nice things?
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>>63691072
>no color
>no windows
>fluorescent lighting
I'm against possessions, not aesthetic appeal.
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>>63691150
>because I like hoarding nice things?
ftfy
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>>63691056
more like I can rearrange the space to clear away an area for indoor gardening
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>>63691232
Or that.
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>>63691159
This must be you then, as it's hard to truly be against possessions if you follow that line of though to the logical conclusion.
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>>63690788
I have plenty of books, bunch of old ones, that were first editions which I inherited through my grandfather who had an enormous collection.
Some of my books are worth hundreds of dollars, and have a uniqueness. Plus, bitches love old and valuable stuff.

>mfw a girl I dated got pissed because I wouldn't lend her a first edition "Lolita" book I own

You never lend books.
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Support the people that created the movies? Not only that, but people don't like spending money on digital media. Sure they can buy the movie digitally, but it's better when you can actually hold it in your hand, with a nice boxart and everything.

Now, if you're talking burning pirated movies on DVD, then yeah, thats pretty fucking retarded. I actually know someone who does this. Has hundreds of movies all over the damn place. I keep telling him to just put them on an external hard drive but he won't listen.
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>>63691637
>you can't hold values unless you commit to them 100%
Unfortunately, the world is not so simple. I said that I'm against possessions, not that I reject all possessions.
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>>63689521
>>63689795
>>63690293
>>63691056
MFW when I'm asked to justify having nice things(and collector's editions).
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>>63689521
>born into an age where information, and knowledge are easily at your fingertips
>choose instead to spend time making threads about meaningless trivial crap

Ah, to be alive
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>>63689795

Flash memory gets corrupted too you know. They might not "die" but they'll slowly stop reading stuff.

The same could be said of DVDs, but if they're good quality ones, they could last a long time. Especially blurays.
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>>63692004
>what is RAID
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>>63690072

I have an external hard drive that is also in the "cloud." It's called a NAS.

And the reason could be putting movies on it with Plex and watching it anywhere. Instead of some random site on Popcorn Time.
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>EMP blast
>all electronics fried
>electronic books lost
>shelves of dead tree books safe and sound
Books will win in the end. Digital books also require constant format migration as media become obsolete/wear out, and this is a real problem for archivists now that warehousing oldschool books didn't have.
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>>63692038

Yeah, I know of RAID.. but then if you just want to mirror a drive, then you might as well buy a hard drive and not an SSD. HDDs are more prone to crashes, but if it's mirrored then it's not gonna matter. It's cheaper than SSD by a long shot.
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>>63692214
>plays Call of Duty once
lmao you serious?
>>63692264
Exactly
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I use a rotary phone, a typewriter, a record player, and a Monkees TV from the sixties. It's comfy.
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>>63692303
>lmao you serious
Quite. Solid state memory is toast from EMP induced current, while spinning disc HDs will but not much more than doorstops with all of their chips fried. Unless you live in a Faraday Cage, kiss ebooks goodbye after EMP.
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>>63692214

I read an article once of something called "the lost generation." Basically means that we're storing everything digitally now and many of the things will get lost sooner or later because of how intangible digital media is.. Yeah, you could store them on a CD/DVD/BD, but they all get corrupted eventually, same with HDD with drive failures being so common. Flash memory get corrupted too..
You *could* backup everything, but not everyone does. Most people don't, in fact.. I can't even count the amount of people that have told me they lost/broke their phone or it got stolen and they lost 1000s of pictures and videos with them.

I guess you could say everything can get lost eventually, but digital media more so in my opinion.
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>>63692171
Confirmed for knowing nothing about modern technology.
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>>63692350
>>>/tumblr/
>>63692438
LPT: don't live in a country full of shitskins. Problem solved.
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>>63692350
You would like my Sansui AU-111 Stereophonic Amplifier. It's all vacuum tube, made in the 1960's, with massive construction and value (worth $1500 on eBay). Oldschool man.
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>>63692214
This line of reasoning is faulty because it just acts as though an imagined scenario you created were some kind of inevitability that invalidates electronics.

I can do it for books too: all it takes is one huge fire and your entire library is gone, unless you store them all in a secure fireproof vault.

See? That hardly invalidates books, we've managed to get by on paper printed media for thousands of years despite fires wiping out large collections now and then. Fearmongering over EMPs "destroying everything" is pretty much the same.
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physical copies are helpful in the event of a catastrophic failure of a hard drive/ssd.

if you buy a computer pre-made you are instructed to make a physical back up of the os and bugged to do it until you do it or turn off the notification
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>>63692478
The other problem with digital archiving is one you could call lack of "negligence resilience". Shit like paper books and even 35mm movie film are rather negligence resilient: the Dead Sea Scrolls were tossed in a cave for several millennia and rediscovered, while lost movies on film turn up from as far back as a century old hand tinted print of "A trip to the Moon" just restored.

Digital is not negligence resilient like this. Shit like floppy discs are dying every day now, along with newer media failure modes and incompatibilities from new versions. Toss digital in a cave or film vault and come back in a century and ??? Someone has to deliberately choose digital stuff to thus preserve, so stuff WILL be lost unlike treasure from the analog past which were accidentally saved.
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>>63692214
>>63692543
And what's more likely; your house getting hit by an EMT or your books burning in a fire?
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>>63692578
>physical copies are helpful in the event of a catastrophic failure of a hard drive/ssd.
Redundant drives accomplish the same thing.
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>>63692542
Nice! Any pics
>>63692508
Hey millenial redditor. Just so you know analog >>> digital, it's literally been proven
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>>63692746
EMP is not just your house, it's everything, everywhere. An airburst EMP over the USA takes out everything.
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>>63689713
This
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>>63692764
>adjusts newsboy cap
>>63692780
I'm aware, and again, what's more likely? If the US gets hit with an EMP, you've got bigger problems than preserving your collection of Cantonese finger puppet art house sitcoms.
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>>63689683
>dvd
>higher than 1080p streams
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>>63692764
Here's an AU-111 with the bottom cover removed. All hand wired, like a fine guitar amp. My technician said it was one of the most complex pieces he had seen when he serviced it and installed new tubes.
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>>63692741
>Shit like paper books and even 35mm movie film are rather negligence resilient
This is so hilariously wrong I have to wonder at where you think all the books and other writings have gone. If paper was indestructible as you say, we'd have a veritable mountain of documents and publications from the past several thousand years. And yet in reality we don't, those things are incredibly rare.

It is possible to preserve paper and parchment, that's the only reason the original Constitution of the United States is still good condition, but without that kind of diligent care or extreme luck paper deteriorates very fast.
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>>63692741

Pretty good points. I totally agree with you.

People ITT are thinking short term storage. Yes, digital media on optical discs or hard drives on mirrored mode can last for decades, especially if you keep multi backups of things.

But on the long term (centuries), it will be hard to keep track of everything digitally being stored now. I'm sure the most important stuff will survive (Hollywood movies, big world events from this era, etc) but the personal stuff will likely be gone way before then. Like I said, I see people losing their pictures/videos all the time even now, let alone decades/centuries from now.

You'd think everything being recorded today will last forever, but I'm betting it won't.
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>>63692915
This is true btw.
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>>63689795
>piratefag calling others poorfags

The irony tbqh fàm.
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>>63692853
>1080p streams
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>>63692853
>can't read
He said Blu-rays, you stupid cùck.

Also
>1080p streams
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>>63692827
It's a generational concern though. Sure shit would suck, but the archivist in me could care less about that and more about media resilience.
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>>63692966
I got a two hundred dollar bonus on my last paycheck. Should I fill my apartment with two hundred dollars worth of packing peanuts?
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>>63692950
There's no such thing as "long term" storage. Do you know how the ancient writings of civilization survived? They were copied and recopied countless times. Because books don't last very long. It's only fairly recently we developed the technology to reliably preserve documents for centuries. But even so, this is only done for documents which are seen as historic artifacts, for information to be continuously disseminated it has to be continuously copied.

Microfilm is the longest lasting media we have right now, but even that will have to be copied over after 100 years or so.
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Someone needs to invent an emp gun so these you millennial faggots can unplug for once and return to the real world.
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>>63693015
>what are redundant backups
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Streaming is for cucks
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>>63692915
It's better than nothing. With digital that's all that will be left, barring constant intervention and migration. You can't toss a digital item somewhere and expect it to just survive without care forever. They are still digging legible papyrus fragments up, while shit like the Mawangdui Lao Tzu manuscript on silk came out of a 2000 year old Chinese tomb.
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>>63693016
>two hundred dollars on my last paycheck

Fucking kek. You're literally part-time fast food employee tier. And you're calling other people poorfags? Haha! Pathetic.
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>>63693041
>as he posts on the Taiwanese colon cleansing forum
AHAHAHAHAHA DAE TECHNOLOGY IS ACTUALLY BAD???? XDD
WE R SLAVES TO OUR IPHONESâ„¢ BROZ :OOooO0
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>>63689521
With physical media I can watch any movie that I want, even the ones that aren't on any stream or cloud or drive.

The Farmer 1977

Find me a quality stream of that and I will suck your dick on stream
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>>63693080
As I mentioned here >>63693036 information survived mainly by copying. Those odd one of a kind documents that we only find via a sealed room or something are less than a hundredth of a percent of all historical writings. The majority survived by being copied. Creating multiple copies of the same information is how humanity has survived thus far.

Trying to create an "eternal library" is actually the dangerous idea, that's how you end up with disasters like Alexandria. Better to make as many redundant copies of everything as possible and spread them out all over the earth.
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>>63693092
I said two hundred dollar bonus, you fucking idiot lmfao. As in two hundred dollars more than my normal paycheck.
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>>63693092
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>>63693041
Ray Bradbury wrote a story about exactly that. In the 1950's. This is a TV version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mBRPsDHANE

How prophetic is that?
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>>63693135
>only two hundred dollars

Still a poorfag, kiddo.
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>>63689521
I like having physical copies of things. It feels like I own it, that it's my property.

Sentimental value, I guess.
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>>63693185
Do you not know what the word "bonus" means? Do you even have a job?
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>>63689521
>Literally give me one reason why everyone that hoards physical media isn't a total fucking moron.
Conversation pieces.
Basically showing normalfags that "Oh, look! I have le good taste in moveez!" because you have the Criterion edition of Meet the Feebles.
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>>63693185
>only
>bonus
uhh, anon...
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>>63693041
Luddites like you are the saddest, most perverse creatures of the modern world. You are surrounded by amazing conveniences and opportunities for expanding and preserving human knowledge and yet you decide to hate it. You develop this fundamentally backward worldview that shuns progress, believing it to be harmful. Because you don't understand the new media you instinctively assume it is dangerous, and cling to the old with increasing desperation, instead of taking advantage of the world around you.
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>>63689521
For high quality if you can't get high quality rips on the internet, some times you want to watch the special features too
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>>63693207
Only a two hundred dollar bonus. That's chump shit. The fact that it feels significant to you makes it even clearer how much of a poorfag you are.
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>>63689521
People who collect digital media physically are just materialistic, ignore any other justification that they have.
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>>63693321
kek you're grasping at straws, you broke ass bitch. You don't even know my salary.
>being the triggered
I bet you're a hoarder.
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>>63693371
T H I S
B
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>>63693374
>salary

Anon, pls. You know you're only a part-time employee. That's hardly a "salary."
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>>63693420
See >>63693374
>grasping at straws
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Behold the glory of the Evangelion movies laserdisc box. A full storyboard, huge solid box, illustrated LD gatefold, model kit, phone cards/trading cards, and even a fucking plush mass production EVA.

The absolute madman of media.
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>>63693467
So what does all of it do?
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If anybody in here actually buys digital media, please fuck off. That's just retarded.
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>>63693442
from my change jar
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>>63689683
>You can get rid of the cases and put the Blu Ray discs into a 80+ dvd holder and then you get much HIGER quality video than streaming while not having shelfs full of shit
Or you can download a remux or remux it yourself onto a relatively cheaper hard drive, make a library of your shit, and not have an assload of disks laying around that you have to regularly swap into your soon-to-be obsolete optical drives.
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>>63693554
>filename
You're really bad at this.
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>>63693561
THIS
>>63693247
Saved
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>>63693590
That's the file name on my phone, poorfag. You probably don't have one.
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>>63693491
Exude pure win? Huge laserdisc sets are tactile things to be handled and admired. LD is also an analog format, encoded in NTSC video, so it also offers an experience objectively distinct from DVD/Bluray as it's not digitally compressed. Sort of like collecting vinyl records.
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>>63693371

But higher quality tho.

Good BD rips are like 20GB or more. Fuck that man.

I mean most of the movies I "own" I have on a HDD, but in mediocre 2GB rips.
The movies I really do like I have on DVD/BD because 1. I actually care about it enough to have it in physical media and 2. Higher quality
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>>63690788

I do probably 70% of my reading on kindle these days for convenience reasons but I do really enjoy the feel of having a book in my hands.

They're also pretty solid way to meet people.

Nobody is going to fucking come up to you when you're in public and start a conversation with you when you're reading from a kindle because they don't know what the fuck you're reading.

But if you're reading a book they can see what you're reading and might start talking to you about it.

I met my ex I was with for two years and am still friends with four years after we split because she was reading Catch-22 on a train. I saw what book it was then walked up and we started talking about that and other books for the remaining three hours of the ride.

Thanks to a physical book I met a really great person I'm still friends with and had two years of great sex. That's unlikely to happen with kindle and shit.
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fuck you yify faggots

you can't find perfect bluray copies of every fucking movie
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>>63693554
>$10,000 stack

Shit, nigga. Hook a f4m up.
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>>63693675
Fun fact, if you were posting from an iOS device it would be image.jpg and if it was Android it would begin with IMG_
Backpedal harder though. I want to see how much further you can go.
>>63693676
*yawn*
Looks like a bunch of shit to me.
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>>63693744
>not being Icarus master race
No but really, I don't want people around me knowing what I'm reading.
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>>63693779
Lmao technologically-stunted moron. I took that picture with my handheld camera. Only poorfags take pictures with phones.
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>>63693756
Actually you pretty much can, and a completely lossless quality rip into a new container is called a remux. If you don't have the HDD space for that, transparent quality encodes are also extremely common these days if you know what sources to look for. Obviously YIFY is not one of them.
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>>63693841

I only read shit that I don't want people to know what I'm reading at home and keep that shit hidden away when I'm not using it.
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>>63693885
but not EVERY movie or series and shit
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>>63689521
You're making a false dichotomy because you're assblasted that I can download movies I reasonably like while purchasing movies I love and watching it on the living room TV because I don't live in a fucking basement, paying 20 clams every couple of months for 50GBs worth of picture quality that I could never find online or settling for some halfassed artifacted copy that I could beat in a barber shop.
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>>63689521


Not all media and editions are available on download or digital media

If you weren't a Nigger you'd know this
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>>63693922
If there's a BluRay for it, there's probably encodes and remuxes of it online. Usually within the first few days of a BluRay being released, and sometimes earlier.
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>>63693882
>take money out of change jar
>position it on desk
>turn on camera
>take picture
>plug in to computer
>import picture/save to desktop
>upload go Taiwanese colon cleansing forum
You're really dedicated to shitposting lmao. And the filename is still wrong for literally any digital camera out there. Lick my shit, poorfag.
>>63693914
Well I can afford not to give a shit.
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>>63693779
I guess you wouldn't appreciate the nearly $10000, milspec grade 100 pound reference laserdisc player from the LD era that can spin such discs either? Tactile, once more: this thing is practically machined from a billet of solid metal.
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>>63693966
>doesn't understand how technology works
>thinks someone else is a nigger
All media was physical before people began ripping it to digital formats. Whatever format you have, it's probably not hard to make digital.
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>>63693941
>autism
>>63694045
Yeah, no. Pretty useless considering it's not the Laser Disc era, fuckass. Pioneer makes good speakers though.
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>>63694160

You are literally responding to every post like a pissed off 15 year old girl
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>>63694231
hahaha dude nice
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>>63694160
>Pretty useless considering it's not the Laser Disc era, fuckass
Just like a turntable is useless too, right fucktard? I'd rather point at a wall of LP's as my music collection than a soulless fucking file on a cheap made in China screen.
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>>63694028

I wish I had the ability to not give a shit but that's not an option when there's a good chance I'll hold a respectable position at a fortune 500 in a few years and my sister is one of the top attorneys at a prestigious firm.

If some of the shit that I read became known to others it might destroy both of our careers.
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>>63694331

>I'll hold a position at a fortune 500 company
>my sister is a top attorney at a prestigious firm

;^) >>63694331
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>>63694331

But do any of the fortune 500 companies know you graduated at the top of your navy seals class
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>>63694294
Oh yeah, I'm sure girls will totally dig your collection of cumbersome Urban Outfitters tier revival memes and totally want to fuck you.
Literally no one will ever give a shit about your worthless hunks of plastic and you stupid fucking posturing, dickhead. Go put some patchouli oil in your moustache and shotgun a PBR or something.
>>63694331
cringe
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>>63694390
>>63694420
>>63694444

I didn't expect anyone to believe me anyway. Can't say I blame you guys desu.
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>>63694444

Toughest guy on all of /tv/
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>>63694488
>adjusts beanie
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>>63694518

;^)

Too tough for /tv/
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>>63694444
There are turntables that cost over $100000, along with tube amps like the Audio Note Ongaku that along costs over $100000. Add speakers and you're talking the price of a house. Only beggar filth like you need to justify you self worth through cheap electronics, while the rich enjoy the finer things in life like high end analog audio.

You stupid fuck, you have no idea what an audiophile is, do you? Too bad poor bums like you could never afford this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfIUh0S7yTQ
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>>63693247
Please tell me how these new technologies promote anything positive. To me it seems like it's just distractions and ADHD. To shun physical media is such a destruction of permanence, is turning the back so clearly on anything that takes a sustained effort and slows itself down. I do not want to be bound by electricity under my fingertips and in my hands, I do not want to become a power circuit. You've lost all sense of spiritual connection to the organic; your mind has sped up, but it's chaotic and does not branch, but blasts in all directions. Twitter rot.
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>>63694594
>>63694584

Show him how tough you are OP

Respond to his every comment

U the man OP
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>>63694584
>vinyl defening
>>>/mu/
>>63694594
>having autism
Physical media has nothing to do with audiophilia or having a good setup lmfao.
>>63694633
"no"
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>>63694444
As if everyone with books or a turntable are hipster youth. It's so clear the only thing that feeds your view of the world is 4chan.
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>>63694594
cringe
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>>63694594
>>63694664

Oh man you got out toughed by the Toughest op in all of /tv/

Look how quickly he responded and to every comment

This guy is an absolute madman of an op
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>>63694664
Vinyl sounds better. Scores of musicians agree. There are also scores of authors who hate digital versions of their work. And but no, here you are, the supreme correct 20-year-old on 4chan who takes his conditioning toward electronic media, since that's all that's ever been sold to you and stolen by you, as 100% spiritual fact.
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>>63694702

Dude wait till op responds it's going to be Hella epic bro
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>>63689521
I barely have any physical media left, but I also don't see the problem with it. The shit is being produced, it might as well end up in somebody's possession instead of a landfill.
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>>63694702
4chan isn't even my home forum, but the vinyl revival meme was initiated with that target demo in mind. Literally browse a vinyl general on /mu/ once.
>>63694720
>being this angry nobody cares about your hosed of useless plastic
>>63694753
Nice meme.
>>63694764
[reply]
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I had a language professor in college who had a 1,000+ blu-ray collection (domestic and foreign films). And that's just blu-ray, he still had boxes and boxes full of VHS and DVD.

While you have a point OP, some people have a classier gene of hoarding, which is collecting. They like to own the physical product and stock their shelves for everyone to see.

I'm content with filling a HD, but I have an extensive collection of toys which, really, are just as useless considering they don't do anything for me.
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>>63693966
>>63693922
>>63693756
>>63693941
Any one of you, list a few BluRay releases or special editions that you don't think you can find online either as a transparent or near-tansparent encode, or as a completely lossless quality remux. I'll be surprised if you can name any releases that have been out for over a week.

>>63693711
>Good BD rips are like 20GB or more. Fuck that man.
>I mean most of the movies I "own" I have on a HDD, but in mediocre 2GB rips.
If it's that size it's probably a lossless quality remux, which you really don't need because there are plenty of P2P groups producing quality transparent BluRay encodes usually around the 7-14GB range depending on the movie.

You're problem, which seems to also be the problem with everyone else here complaining about digital media, is that you download shitty 2GB YIFY releases, which are actually transcodes of other releases that remove as much quality as necessary to get the file down to that 2GB size.

Download decent releases from decent groups, and fuck YIFY.

Encoding (not transcoding) groups that AREN'T shit:

>EbP
>NTb
>HiDt
>DON
>D-Z0N3
>HDMaNiAcS
>HiFi
>VietHD
>decibeL
>SbR
>TayTO

The list goes on and on. Shit, even a 576p TBB encode around 2GB would beat the quality of YIFY shit. People just go for YIFY because they're more public and easily available.
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>>63689521

all hard drives fail eventually

burnable discs are also more susceptible to disc rot

do you even into data persistence?
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>>63694815
Do you even read the thread, retard?
>what is RAID
>what are redundant backups
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>>63689795

flash memory fails even more often than spinning hard drives

and there are only so many times a flash memory cell can be written to
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>>63694814
You're forgetting that almost no one rips special features or bluray/dvd menus. And while some people don't care about that, some filmmakers do. Lynch for example belabors over his own releases, the Inland Empire DVD is half of the experience of watching the film, and he was really active in the dvd era releasing his own dvds of new stuff. Criterion also put a lot of effort into their physical releases as a supplement to appreciating the film.
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>>63694858
Objectively false.
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>>63689896

and all those streaming services use hard drives

you're paying to access their hard drives
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>>63694885
the first part? yes
the second? no
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>>63690072

the cloud IS hard drives you moron
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>>63694808
I'm willing to bet with this attitude that depreciates the importance of lived things that you have very hollow relationships with art anyway.
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>>63694958
nah dude it's a cloud wtf
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>Streaming movies
>Not buying Criterion collection or box sets of shows/films you love.
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>>63694958
technically ? yes
is it a hard drive that's gonna cost and fail on you directly? no
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>>63694867
>You're forgetting that almost no one rips special features
You're wrong, you can almost always find an encode for extras.
>or bluray/dvd menus
Even more wrong, a full size BluRay or DVD image complete with menus and extras is always the first thing to be released before good encodes start to appear. A lot of encoders use the full images rather than the actual disks as their source because it's literally the exact same media and it means they don't have to buy it to encode it themselves.
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>>63690788
>comparing toothbrushes to films

Why do you have any possessions? Are you naked right now? If not, why would you accumulate all that unnecessary clutter?
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>>63694972
The criticism of capitalism in this makes no sense because streaming isn't free, they should've made the teen a torrenter.
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>>63694968

HOLY SHIT FAGGOT OP BTFO
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The highest end audiophile systems are usually analog. Those $100k turntables and similarly priced tube amps and speakers make systems that can cost half a million-not something a "hipster" is going to afford. High end audio is so far removed from most of us that we don't even know about this shit.

Pic is a $100k amp with solid silver wiring.

I hate to break it to those who somehow link their manhood with their choice in media format, but the class of people with these sorts of systems are executives, rich bankers and the like who can buy whatever women they want, cars, penthouses, you name it.
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>>63694968
kek good strategy at making a completely extraneous, airtight presumptions. I bet you have very hollow personal relationships and cry during sex.
>>63694968
>>63695037
samefag
>>63695023
See >>63691782
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>>63691056

Most people who aren't vagrants or hobos tend to accumulate more possessions than they can fit in a satchel tied to a stick.
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>>63695083
>This week on Hoarders
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>>63695012
Maybe for very mainstream releases, but none of the special features I recently tried to find were available, it's not like I don't check. And if they were, I don't have unlimited space - I'd rather buy the bluray than have to upgrade my computer, because I only use my computer to write. And if I did upgrade my computer, I'd want all my rips to be permanent, so I'd end up backing them up physically, which would end up being a far uglier clutter than the official releases, which support the artists I enjoy.
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>>63691711

all hard drives fail

there is also disc rot, but a burned disc tends to last longer than a hard drive

there are also m-discs which last a thousand years
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>>63689521
I want you to die child.
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>>63695070
No defense, so I'm just going to assume you're on your gizmoes too much to be developing a complex relationship with actual art. I also bet you spend more time downloading files than watching them, which is pretty much just digital hoarding.
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>>63695159
Drooped your hat, anon.
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>>63690788
>being this postmodern
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>>63689992
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>>63695162
>No defense, so I'm just going to assume
Stopped right there.
See >>63695070
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>>63691159
Houses are possessions
Cars are possessions
Clothes are possessions
Anything that you think of as having 'aesthetic appeal' would also be possessions
The computer/phone you're using to post your high school-tier ideology on is a possession

Unless you live alone in the woods and forage/hunt for food you're either taking a stance just to seem cool and deep, shitposting, or selling out your ideals hardcore and either way the net effect is that you're a bitch.
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Who HTPC master race?
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>>63695229
See >>63691782
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>>63691056
Because as someone who creates I enjoy the creations of others. I sculpt, I enjoy sculptures. It's about appreciating the work and effort and expression of others. If I were a filmmaker I'd want for sure that people buy the physical version of it, just because more craft goes into that than someone sharing files. The director has varied input on the releases, but they're often involved - real people put lots of time and effort into encoding, color-correcting, timing ... and they did all of that for the physical release.
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>>63689521
because it's mine, faggot.
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>>63689521
that's a rare simpsons reaction image, can i save it?
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>>63692950

there are bluray m-discs that store as much as a bluray disc and are supposed to last 1,000 years since it's etched in stone.

the problem is whether any technology will exist in 1,000 years to read it.
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>>63691782
>I'm against possessions
>everyone who owns physical media is dumb
>but some possessions are okay if they're convenient for me

What are you, seventeen?
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>>63695256
Hey, nothing's stopping you.
>>63695274
You need to be eighteen or older to post here.
>>63695278
"no"
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>>63693036
>There's no such thing as "long term" storage.

It's called stone. It's probably one of the main reasons anything is known about ancient civilizations.

Stone can also be destroyed, but it's more persistent than other media that can decay.
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>>63695306
then get the fuck out faggot. I'm 32
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ITT; lonely autistic OP needs attention so he baits everyone with cyclical arguments

I guarantee he'll reply to this
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i don't get it either, i either put it away in my account so my wife and wife's son can enjoy it or i use it to pimp out my new shed ;)
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>>63695224
It's convenient that you stopped yourself before reading a line of thought that challenges your stupid views, but not a surprise.
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>>63695115
>I don't have unlimited space - I'd rather buy the bluray than have to upgrade my computer, because I only use my computer to write. And if I did upgrade my computer, I'd want all my rips to be permanent, so I'd end up backing them up physically, which would end up being a far uglier clutter than the official releases, which support the artists I enjoy.
Reasonable points actually, fair enough. Although you could still rip the disks you do buy to a HDD and enjoy a unified media center experience where you have instant library access to all your movies in BluRay quality.

I can see how that would be doing too much for some people though.
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>>63695300
You're the kind of guy to debate Christians that have premarital sex as not being "real Christians".
It's about not arbitrarily accumulating worthless shit.
>>63695335
Embarrassing.
>>63695341
[reply]
>>63695351
heh
>>63695353
You assumed once already. You used up your assumption coupon for the day.
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I never knew how many people took oaths of poverty over their media preference. Attachment causes suffering, so you are trying to break the wheel of rebirth, huh?

I can picture it now: the angry "digital only" advocate with only a loincloth, begging bowl, and digital media player, living in the forest trying to reach nirvana.
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>>63695110
>Steve Jobs is muh guru
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>>63694814
>every single movie has been released on bluray
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>>63695398
1) Worth is relative. The appeal of cooking is lost on most young people, but that doesn't mean it has no value.

2) My assumptions are facts until proven wrong, which you haven't, which right now means I'm right.
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>>63695414
>>63695414

Yes except buddhists strive to give up all desire

And if op can't use his digital player to watch his cuckold porn how will he ever find enlightenment
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>>63695414
You think that separated physical media is closer to nirvana than the unity that is the digital world?
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>>63693247

Technophiles like yourself are hopelessly delusional.

Technology has gotten to the point where it's out of human control, it can't be uninvented, and it makes culture more degenerate.

I know for a fact that you are more degenerate than your parents, and you call that "progress", yet you probably have less children than them (if you've even had sex before in your life).

If you had a wife and kids, you probably wouldn't even be on /tv/ right now. Yet the smartphone in every girl's pocket has effectively destroyed any chances of humans having any meaningful lasting relationships.

You're lost in a world of simulation and media because you're trying to escape your pathetic life, when technology was supposed to make everyone happier.
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>>63695430
>he uses Apple products
>>63695414
>technology = ascetism
dae born in le wrong generation? xD
Fuck, I feel so old. Pepperidge Farm remembers.
>>63695448
I literally don't care at all.
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>>63695398
>Christians that have premarital sex are not real Christians
They aren't. The New Testament clearly says fornicators will not go to heaven.
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ITT: cucks
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>>63695475
>Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Epic Family Guy reference my dude :D
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>>63693374
>I bet you're a hoarder.

Hoarding is how white people survived winter.

I bet you're a nigger. Your mom walks around with floppy ass National Geographic tits doesn't she? No clothing for your people amirite?
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>>63695444
>every single movie has been released on bluray
I was discussing BluRay releases in particular. What are you even trying to say here, that BluRay is the only form of physical media that can be digitally ripped?
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>>63695456
The digital world is just lightly directed chaotic energies. There is no unity to be derived, only misinterpreted.
>>63695414
It's funny, because digital is a possession that gets cycled out way more than physical media, especially the controlled obsolescence of smartphones.
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>>63695493
>pic related
>>63695519
thx
>>63695525
Genuine lel.
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>>63695398
>You're the kind of guy to debate Christians that have premarital sex as not being "real Christians".
You're projecting so hard you might be able to get a job at an imax theater
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>>63695475
You don't care, yet you've responded to literally every post in this thread for hours.
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>>63695559
>The digital world is just lightly directed chaotic energies. There is no unity to be derived, only misinterpreted.
You are far from enlightenment, for all is unity, and that is what has been misinterpreted.
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>>63695587
Nice meme.
>>63695601
Ya, it's called funposting, broke ass bitch.
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>>63693185
this guy
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>>63689521
All you download fags are gonna be in for a rude awakening when the combination of CISPA/TPP passes.
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>>63695668
so scare
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>>63694814
>he only watches movies that came out in the last year
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>>63695668
Fun fact, it literally won't change anything.
If you wanna start worrying shift anti-piracy legislation, you're about seven years late.
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>>63695624
Real funposters don't broadcast their intentions. You're an embarrassment.
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>>63689521
You've been at it for four hours repeating yourself ad infinitum without actually making a coherent, logical argument, it's somewhere between impressive, hilarious, and depressing. Why are you so upset? Did your mom make you shower for the first time in months?
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>>63695702
>he's retarded
Those groups collectively have covered probably every BluRay release you can name, faggot
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>>63695714
>real funposters
/tv/ board culture is fucking dogshit, Jesus Christ.
>>63695720
>funposting is difficult
ok
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>>63694837

no, i actually don't have time to read through a thread where everyone masturbates over their personal consumer choices as if they mean something for their social "identity."

you fucking autists thinking everyone has to play by your rules. or else what?

you're only proving my point that all hard drives fail.

why would you need raid if hard drives don't fail?

why would you need redundant backups if hard drives don't fail?

thanks for proving my point, fucktard.
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>>63695723
Show me someone who's ripped this and everything on it:

http://www.yesasia.com/global/sion-sono-early-works-before-suicide-dvd-japan-version/1030982939-0-0-cssid.2-en/recommended-items.html
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>>63695767
Reply to this post or your mom will die tonight.
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>>63695766
No, it really isn't, but that autism must be real difficult for your mom
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>>63695766
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>>63695825
My mom's dead lad, but see >>63695819
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>>63695791
Full DVD image including all 6 discs, you are now permitted to call yourself a faggot.
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>>63695008

no, you're just renting theirs like some nigger at rent-a-center.

their hard drive is going to fail eventually and they'll replace it.

and servers use tons of electricity, while optical discs on a shelf do not.
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>>63695855
I genuinely believe that collecting physical media is fucking stupid.
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>>63695869
Oops, pic related
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>>63695859
Oh, I'm sorry, it must be real difficult for your dad to deal with an autistic child and the fact that his wife killed herself because she couldn't cope with having an autistic child
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>>63695162

There is literally nothing wrong with digital hoarding. It's what Google and Facebook is based on.

Most digital hoarders just don't make money on it.
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>>63695905
>being this triggered
lmao you also responded to the wrong post.
See >>63695819
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>>63689687
Yes. You can show them.
They can't find it by themselves.
Unles you let them use your computer and acess everything.
Which you definitely shouldn't.
Being shown something does not trigger your curiosity as much as having something to search through.
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>>63695961
I replied to the exact post I wanted to, retard
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>>63695995
The characters to edgy ratio is high in this post lmfao smdh
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>>63695398
>It's about not arbitrarily accumulating worthless shit.

Shouldn't you be banning people on Wikipedia right now?
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>>63696021
See >>63695945
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I Ike digital media only

I also enjoy swallowing many semens
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>>63695723
>he only watches movies that are out on bluray
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>>63695897
Let me guess, a private tracker? And at six seeds for 30 gb, it'd take less time to just ship it here.
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>>63696094
When you swallow a load do you exclaim, "That's a tasty semen!" in a bad Italian accent?
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>>63696094
Nothing better to do when all of your bookshelves are bare but suck dick? See, that's what digital zealotry gets you.
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>>63689521

I agree OP. Downloading digital media is the way to go.

This may be bait, but I agree with your bait.
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