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What went wrong?

Seriously
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>>63674016
the last 1/3
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>>63674016
It was boring. Why have all the Craig Bond films been 45 minutes longer than they need to be?
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>>63675418
so you wanted QoS to be an hour long
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>>63675418
this for bond films in general
should be a bbc miniseries instead, a 4 hour movie edited to 1 full britbong season.
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>>63674016
he was mickey mouse all along
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>>63674016
>Dumb villain
>Dumb lady
>Shoehorned political relevancy subtext
>Lazy writing
>Lazy writing
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>Bond cucked my family
>That's why I am a bad guy
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Tone. Some scenes were fun and campy. Some scenes were Skyfall Bourne action. Some scenes were edgy. It felt like every scene had its own director. The villain was also completely uninteresting, pretty much just a turbo butthurt loser, and him being behind everything is the biggest asspull of the series.
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not enough black bulls
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They should have written a good script before setting a release date.
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>>63675584
Why would you be against shortening QoS?
Unless you wanted to shorten it more, of course. Preferably to nothing.
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>>63675884
it's actually too short since the plot moves way too fast
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I can't believe they are still making James Bond movies in general, let alone that people are still buying them

>60s era chauvinist fuck is perfect
>/movie
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>>63674016
>terrible villain
>least charismatic bond in all craig movies
>no chemistry with bond girl
>after 3 bond movies based around real, cold stories, have an over the top story that tries to link everything together and fucks up immensely
>seriously what is this clusterfuck
>unnecessary throwbacks to previous characters (only the popular ones)
>IT WAS ME ALL ALONG JAMES
>james bond is literally invulnerable at this point
>james bond leaves MI6 and starts a normal life

Basically the writing was barely above QoS.
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They tried to be funny
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she's Totally dying in the first part of the next movie
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No chemistry with Bond grill. And yet despite just meeting 2 days before, they are madly in love.

Shit was contrived as fuck.
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>>63674016
they tried to add Roger Moore comedy to blue pilled Jason Bourne.

There were no survivors.
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>>63676210
How long was it for bond to fall in love with Tracy and Vesper?
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>It was Smee, James! The author F. Oliver Payne

What did he mean by this?
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>>63675960

They're basically a cult in UK

It's headline news for at least a week prior and the BBC runs specials n all sorts.
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>>63676211

Pretty much. On top of Christoph Waltz making zero effort to act anything but bored, the bond girl being incredibly boring, the stupid swan song at the end (in fact the entire end sequence in general was terrible). Everything after the train sequence was horrendous, before it it felt like it might turn around but then wham this is the movie you came to see.
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>>63676364
>BBC specials
Where might I watch these?
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Is there a tier list of James Bond movies?

Where does this one fit?
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>>63676338
>It was Smee
it Smee the mastermind behind Spectre and the whole Bane operation?
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>>63676491
If anyone posts one with Goldeneye above okay/average tier it's a shit list and should be ignored.
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>>63676338
Apparently, Spectre was funded by book sales written by Smee, under the pseudonym F. Oliver Payne.

As such, Smee was behind everything
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It was just bad. It didn't know what it wanted to be. I can't remember specifics but I recall some scenes were brutal as fuck before some slapstic comedy was ham-fisted in. Like a weird mix of Casino Royale and one of the Roger Moore films.

It just didn't work.

Plus it was at least 30 minutes too long. And I loved how Monica Belluci got interviews about being a 50-something bond girl when she was literally in the film for 5 minutes. Basically Bond walks up to her and she's spreading her legs immediately.

Much empowering!
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Even though her character was shit, she was hot as fuck in this. Post some Lea.
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>>63676433
On BBC.
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>>63676491
For Craig Bond
Casino Royale > Skyfall > Spectre > Quantum
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>>63674016

>3 writers
>obviously couldn't work together
>result: the plot was all over the place and pacing was fucking horrible

That's my main grievance with it.
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>>63676813
How do you get your bull to broadcast cable tv?
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>>63676491
For all the bonds, their best movies

Connery: dr no, Russia with love, you only live twice

Lazenby: On her majesty's secret service (GOAT)

Moore: spy who loved me, for your eyes only

Dalton: living daylights, Licence to kill

Brosnan: goldeneye, tomorrow never dies

Craig: casino Royale spectre, fuck you I liked it
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>>63676491
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>>63676882

It was only 1. The other 2 ex-bond writers were only brought back in to fix the script because everyone hated the final act
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hasn't Daniel Craig been over playing bond for a while? like literally whining about how he hates being bond? that's prob why, just an example of nigga got paid and don't care no mo
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>>63677076
>>63676542
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>>63677076
>casino
>not got tier
It's one of the best Bond movies.
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>>63677097
Isn't Brosnan literally the only guy who actually wants to do more bonds?
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>>63677076
>goldeneye above casino royale/skyfall/live and let die
>world is not enough in good tier
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>>63677076
Casio Royale is god tier.
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>>63677164
By this I meant he was the only one who didn't walk away on his own and actually WANTED to do more movies
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>>63677097

he is still contracted for one, i hope it doesn't happen, they need to renew the timeline after this mess
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>>63677076
>Goldeneye in god tier
/v/eddit please go
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It went down hill after the car chase in Rome
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Dave Bautista was worthless and literally existed to make a few action scenes happen. They should have just focused on Blofeld, because for some super important and supposedly very powerful person, he's barely in the fucking film at all. He has like 2 major scenes and that's it. It makes him lack any intimidation factor.
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>>63674016
There were a few very minor redeeming qualities, Lea Seydoux is 10/10 but her character was the worst. Opening scene is cool.

However this had by far one of the dumbest plots ever. Dialogue was weak, characters didn't make sense. Felt like the movie was written by a bunch of incompetent people who never checked in with each other, then cut and pasted their pieces of the script together.
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>>63674016
anyone know where to cop that turtleneck?

looks comfy af
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>>63677076

>no tomorrow never dies

I'd say okay tier
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Where's the >craig >bond guy?
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>>63677458
Finally dead
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Prolly has to do with Daniel Craig being the worst bond

In fact most of them suck anyways, I personally only liked Moore Ned brosnan
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>>63677551
>worst bond
That's not how you spell Sean Connery
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>>63677276
The hype I got after the Mexico scenes for the rest of the movie

Then that squeeky Sherlock Holmes villain as a James Bond villain

;_;
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>>63675418

>craig
>bond
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>>63679223
Fuck you
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After M gave his little talk about "have you ever killed someone?", I thought he was gonna go Taken mode at the end, or at least let us see him in SOME decent action. That was pretty disappointing.
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Bond is the most overrated franchise in movie history.
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>>63680127
...he says as Star Wars breaks box office records
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Continuity does not belong in Bond and retconning Spectre and Blowfeld was fucking retarded, and evidence that the people who wrote it are not creative.

I haven't even seen the damn thing and I can tell you that.
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Idk what you guys were expecting, but it had everything a bond film should have. Everything. I liked SPECTRE and I think that's because I recognized what they were trying to do with it.

It played out like a Bond's greatest hits remix. Not that it was perfect, it definitely had its flaws.
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>>63676338
Payne?
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>>63677076
>Even Die Another Day isn't bad enough to be in Die Another Day Tier with Quantum
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>>63674016
>too much product placement
>villain backstory is unbelievable in this new bond setting
>torture machine does exactly what its supposed to but doesnt work
>bond blows up a base with a single bullet
>why is a facilitiy surrounded by a gas line
>why can bond shoot soo accurately after this specific torture scene
>how does he manage to run to the top of a blown up building in 3 mins or w/e

theres just alot thats too far fetched, it was ok overall but not better than skyfall or casino royale
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>>63680843
>too much product placement
Product placement, in a bond movie? STOP THE PRESSES
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how did they fuck up having this guy be the villain? he was literally born to play a bond villain. he should have been GOAT tier, but somehow he was just kind of boring.
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>>63681294
you know it gets too blatant sometimes, this isnt transformers it doesnt have to be that in your face about it
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>>63675612
i know u like the bbc lol
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>>63681405
They didn't want him to act like he does in Tarantino movies so they turned him into an autistic twat instead.
Absolute shame tbqh.
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>>63677076
>not having skyfall in great tier
what the fuck man
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>>63681515
Don't reason with /v/edditors who put goldeneye anywhere above mediocre tier, especially the ones who put goldeneye in god tier and above casino royale
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>>63677076
>Die Another Day is not in its own category
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